From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #104 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 16 2007 Volume 16 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... [kevin ] rant du jour [2fs ] Re: Random note [Rex ] RE: Like you're dying to know what I just got... ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Random note [2fs ] Re: rant du jour [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... [kevin ] Re: Random note ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] In Quantum Physics News To-day.... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Random note [kevin ] RE: Like you're dying to know what I just got... ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Random note [kevin ] Ocelot! [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Random note [Rex ] RE: TV, you're dying to know what I just got... ["Bri N" Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... But with the release this week of "Bosom >> >> Buddies: The Complete First Season", I think we can pretty much say >> >> that well has run dry, with the exception of ongoing series. I was at Fry's last night and they have Bosom Buddies season III, so we're a little further along that slippery slope. (I snapped up a copy of the BBC "Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy," so at least I'll be watching old TV with cool Limey accents.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:57:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: My name is silicon >valley is the past; new orleans is the future. > >and, yeah, i know y'all are probably sick of me droning on about this all >the time... I suspect if Nawlins is the future we're going to get off easy. Fortunately those of us in my age group will be checking out before things get really interesting... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:59:15 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: rant du jour black communist surgeons! black communist surgeons! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:02:01 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Random note On 3/15/07, 2fs wrote: > > (what was it w/SoCal bands at > that time - like RCHP - that led to their writing such mindless words?), > and > the general air of fried postmodern hippies wandering around looking for > heroin and tattoos makes the whole thing just kind of... I think you answered your own question there! There's that RHCP song, I forget the title, that pays homage to X, Doe, Watt, fIREHOSE, Thelonious Monster... and even dates to a time when the Chilis themselves were listenable in a fun way, but given where everyone ended up there's definitely some cognitive dissonance there. It gets complicated how a lot of those So Cal players that were really credible sort of drifted into and out of the orbits of the Jane's guys, to their detriment, while simultaneously Dave Navarro became a cultural cliche interchangeable with Tommy Lee (and let's not even try to puzzle out what happened with Henry Rollins). What is one to make of those Porno for Pyros records where Watt and David J alternated on bass, or the fact that even now Flea shows up on Patti Smith records? I think that in the end, as much of a fertile punk scene as LA had, the glitzy, flashy metal scene was right next door, and the music created where those two scenes tried (perhaps nobly?)to integrate has worn really poorly indeed. Anyone tried to listen to a Fishbone or Mary's Danish record lately? You know something was there at the time, but it's really hard to dig it out now. And for that matter, I used to champion post-Zoom X records (for the songwriting, mainly), but they get harder and harder to listen to every year, especially when you can see the band with Zoom back in there a time or two a year. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:49:57 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Like you're dying to know what I just got... I think they are on the endangered species list, as Ted Nugent now lives in Texas where most of the Ocelots roam. _____ From: craigie* [mailto:craigie@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:48 AM To: Bachman, Michael Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... he might have worked there after school and at wekends, though... or mail order. Can you mail order Ocelots? c* On 16/03/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: Hmm, doubtful as Iggy was still attending school at Ypsilanti High back in 1965, but not to often I bet. _____ From: craigie* [mailto:craigie@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:04 AM To: Bachman, Michael Cc: Jeff Dwarf; Tom Waits's Kevlar Porkpie Hat Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... But... did she buy it from Iggy Pop's Oceleot Shop? c* On 16/03/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Dwarf Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:37 PM To: Tom Waits's Kevlar Porkpie Hat Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... Rex < spottedeagleray@gmail.com > wrote: >> Oh, and the TV-show thing... decent box-sets of TV show seasons were >> very novel. But with the release this week of "Bosom >> Buddies: The Complete First Season", I think we can pretty much say >> that well has run dry, with the exception of ongoing series. >Not until "Andy Richter Controls the Universe" comes out. Lot's of 50's and 60's TV shows series have probably not been released yet. Petticoat Junction, F-Troop, Branded, Broadside, etc. My favorite obscure 60's television show, although it got mentioned in Reservoir Dogs, was Honey West. She had a pet ocelot and drove a Shelby Cobra, and you can't get much more 60's cool than that. MJ Bachman -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C767D1.FB9FB730-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:05:07 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: Like you're dying to know what I just got... >Yeah, and then there's folks like me still waiting "Ruby In Paradise", >Ashley Judd's first movie and best performance, to be released on DVD >while all the latest Jennifer Anniston and/or Vince Vaughn crap is being >released. Loved the Judd in "Normal Life." Stay far, far away from "Eye Of the Beholder" though. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:09:16 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... >Later when I calmed down, I fell into "The Idiot" more. I like the >sort of frightening dreaminess of it, and also how well the cover >matches the feeling of the album. Ayup, the ominous robot groove of Mass Production is pretty tasty. Totally agree about Some Weird Sin too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:12:58 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society On 3/15/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > towards the collector or cineaste> > > actually, that was laserdisc. and i was once a laserdisc-snob who didn't > really feel a need to upgrade to DVD -- until DVDs geared toward the > collector or cineaste began to be relased (which was not, at first, the > case). I stand corrected. Laserdiscs, however, were sort of payola'ed out of existence before the home video market really solidified. I did know people who discovered them after they'd stopped being massed produced and went nuts picking up used ones for cheap... loved 'em, much as you did, probably, but the format was already gone. I'd argue that these people formed the core audience that was just waiting for a format like DVD to replace the format they missed the first time around, when there was really no paradigm for collecting films or viewing them on demand in place yet. I think that ability to watch more films more often at home, even via cable or on shitty VHS tapes, created a whole lot more self-styled "cineastes" than existed when LD's and Beta were laid to rest. > and, yeah, i know y'all are probably sick of me droning on about this all > the time... Not even! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:16:27 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... 2fs says: > The Igster was class valedictorian - so I guess he must have shown up most > of the time. He's pretty impressive when interviewed. He seems like he could be one of those those (grrr) folks with the natural smarts have a low class-attendance-to-grades ratio. Has anyone ever read his book "I Need More"? It's pretty entertaining. He's out of his fucking mind. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:19:07 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... On 3/15/07, michaeljbachman@comcast.net wrote: > > > "The Idiot" or "Lust For Life". Yep, sometimes conventional wisdom is spot on. Although I just recently heard "New Values" for the first time and it was way better than I'd expected. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:19:40 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... kevin says: > the ominous robot groove of Mass Production Spot-on description. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:24:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... On 3/16/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > Lot's of 50's and 60's TV shows series have probably not been released > yet. Petticoat Junction, F-Troop, Branded, Broadside, etc. Oh, there are tons of them. I'm working on a bunch right now. But you're getting deeper and deeper into specialty territory and less widely-remembere shows these days (that and repackagings of shows that've already made the rounds at least once on DVD). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:28:40 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Random note >There's a band whose music has, for me, worn extraordinarily poorly. I mean, >there are moments where it's clear these guys are good players...but >Farrell's mewling, incredibly insipid lyrics (what was it w/SoCal bands at >that time - like RCHP - that led to their writing such mindless words?), and >the general air of fried postmodern hippies wandering around looking for >heroin and tattoos makes the whole thing just kind of... I understand how anyone could be put off by Perry's high-pitched drone and general air of pomo-Donovan-on-angel-dust, but speaking as someone who was steeped in SoCal culture for most of my Wonder years they immediately resonated with me as a classic LA band...it's like I was at a party with my brother some while back and we got in an argument with some more-organic-than-thou earth-shoe about the Eagles (who to my shame I mostly quite like) and my brother says to this citizen, "You have to keep in mind that what the Eagles are doing is folk music, but it's folk music that's from and about the culture of Hollywood," which I still feel is a pretty accurate assessment. And that's how I felt about the Janes - they were articulating the cultural values of Hollywood's urban proletariat, which is a pretty specialized consciousness. And aside from Perry, they were a monster power trio. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:34:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random note On 3/16/07, kevin wrote: > > >There's a band whose music has, for me, worn extraordinarily poorly. I > mean, > >there are moments where it's clear these guys are good players...but > >Farrell's mewling, incredibly insipid lyrics (what was it w/SoCal bands > at > >that time - like RCHP - that led to their writing such mindless words?), > and > >the general air of fried postmodern hippies wandering around looking for > >heroin and tattoos makes the whole thing just kind of... > > I understand how anyone could be put off by Perry's high-pitched drone and > general air of pomo-Donovan-on-angel-dust, but speaking as someone who was > steeped in SoCal culture for most of my Wonder years they immediately > resonated with me as a classic LA band...it's like I was at a party with my > brother some while back and we got in an argument with some > more-organic-than-thou earth-shoe about the Eagles (who to my shame I mostly > quite like) and my brother says to this citizen, "You have to keep in mind > that what the Eagles are doing is folk music, but it's folk music that's > from and about the culture of Hollywood," which I still feel is a pretty > accurate assessment. And that's how I felt about the Janes - they were > articulating the cultural values of Hollywood's urban proletariat, which is > a pretty specialized consciousness. > Which is why that line about "ever since the [Rodney King etc.] riots I've wanted to date a black girl" or however it went was so repulsive. And stupid. You're probably right, of course (about the SoCal culture bit) - but apparently, that aspect of SoCal culture at that time annoys me. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:39:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: rant du jour 2fs wrote: > black communist surgeons! > > black communist surgeons! Problems with your brackets? "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:46:34 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... >Has anyone ever read his book "I Need More"? It's pretty >entertaining. He's out of his fucking mind. The bit where he describes sitting up in his penthouse apartment wasted out of his head waiting for the cops to come get him is pretty fun. And the part where Warhol and entourage come out to the Stooges house and he meets the dread Nico...and I vaguely recall some remark about how all young guys are naturally queer, which put me in mind of Norman Mailer's equally perceptive statement about how all women are fundamentally lesbian (and am I the only one who feels like Mailer's entire ouevre has been an elaborate attempt to demonstrate that he's really, really, really not gay?) - not to mention Sinead O'Connor's observation that all children are sexually abused; there's something about this stuff that really seems to bring out the absolutist in people... anyway, yes, I agree about Iggy's book - it's a great read. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:55:47 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: rant du jour On 3/16/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > black communist surgeons! > > > > black communist surgeons! > > Problems with your brackets? Nah - it's just in case you need them. And if it rains. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:56:37 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Random note 2fs says: > Which is why that line about "ever since the [Rodney King etc.] riots I've > wanted to date a black girl" or however it went was so repulsive. And > stupid. Wow. This, combined with the other little amount I know about Perry points to his being an incredible asshole. > You're probably right, of course (about the SoCal culture bit) - but > apparently, that aspect of SoCal culture at that time annoys me. Jane's Addiction and Red Hot Chili Peppers are two bands I just don't get. I mean, I don't even get them enough to like or dislike them. I love X but they always seemed pretty much no different than a New York band, save the occasional lines about sunsets and the beach. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:02:47 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: In Quantum Physics News To-day.... Shit, I thought this was an article about Schroedinger's cat: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/16/DDGIGOLBIH1.DTL&type=movies Not going out on a limb to say it's likely the movie would be better if it was about Schroedinger's cat. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:24:02 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Random note On 3/16/07, kevin wrote: > ...it's like I was at a party with my brother some while back and we got > in an argument with some more-organic-than-thou earth-shoe about the Eagles > (who to my shame I mostly quite like) and my brother says to this citizen, > "You have to keep in mind that what the Eagles are doing is folk music, but > it's folk music that's from and about the culture of Hollywood," which I > still feel is a pretty accurate assessment. And that's how I felt about the > Janes - they were articulating the cultural values of Hollywood's urban > proletariat, which is a pretty specialized consciousness. Hmmm. I came to LA in '89 about the time of Janes' rise to almost-fame (and the first time the Chili Peppers "broke big", although they would somehow do so a couple more times, never did get that) and I had to try for myself to reconcile the actual countercultural heritage of LA (which is considerable) with the commercial stuff on every front (a process whichmay be the very definition of being an Angeleno, I guess), and nowhere was this tougher than in music. I've approached it from a number of angles over the years, but no matter what period we're talking about, there always seem to be great bands, terrible bands, and a lot of uncomfortable in-betweeners made of collaborations between identity-challenged folks with feet in both the boho and commerical sides of things who produce the stuff for which history can't come up with a use. Since I've been playing live lately, I've seen so many examples of this on the never-gonna-be-signed-artists end of things. Even a lot of the "underground" bands are gimmicky and schtick-oriented in ways that I don't think you see as much of in New York or even in your average college town. There's a lot of showbiz in our boho, and occasionally vice-versa. Or maybe there's stuff like that everywhere and you just don't know it because the bands never get signed. Back to Jane's... if they were emblematic of So Cal culture at that time (and they sure were popular), they were probably coming from a place of tattoos and piercings that went so mainstream so shortly after I arrived here that I, like, missed it. It was in Beck and some of his contemporaries (that dog., Geraldine Fibbers, other totally forgotten artists of the early '90's) that I first recognized the LA zeitgeist of which I was a part, for better or worse (the Mike Watt axis, and of course X, being grandfathered in by association, social and aesthetic). Lauren: > > I love X but they always seemed pretty much no different than a New York > band, save the occasional lines about sunsets and the beach. That's interesting... I love X, but I also like a far greater percentage of New York-associated bands than LA-associated ones, so you'd think I would agree with you there, but X seem to me like something that could only have arisen in LA. Stuff like the Germs or Black Flag could conceivably have arisen elsewhere, but not, to my mind, X. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:45:23 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Random note Sailin' Shoes would be right up there in my top 10 for 1972 along with #1 Record, Transformer, Pink Moon, Ziggy, Close To The Edge, Neu!, Roxy Music, Ege Bamyasi and Eat a Peach. I'd have to toss in a few - The Slider, Miles Davis' superbad On the Corner, Rundgren's Something/Anything?, Jackson Browne's first, the monster Hawkwind sludgefest Doremi Fasol Latido, the Bonzos' conractual-obligation LP Let's Make Up And Be Friendly, Exile On Main St, All the Young Dudes, Beefheart's back-to-back Clear Spot and The Spotlight Kid, Harvest, and the tragically overlooked Choice Cuts, the lone recording from The Pure Food & Drug Act, a collection of LA neer-do-wells including Harvey Mandel and Sugarcane Harris - we saw them at the Fox Theater in Long Beach and they tore the place up. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:58:37 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Like you're dying to know what I just got... - -----Original Message----- From: kevin [mailto:kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:05 PM To: Bachman, Michael; Jeff Dwarf; Lauren Elizabeth; crustaceans ripped my flesh Subject: RE: Like you're dying to know what I just got... >>Yeah, and then there's folks like me still waiting for "Ruby In Paradise", >>Ashley Judd's first movie and best performance, to be released on DVD >>while all the latest Jennifer Anniston and/or Vince Vaughn crap is >>being released. Kevin: >Loved the Judd in "Normal Life." Stay far, far away from "Eye Of the Beholder" though. She was great in "Normal Life". And I have stayed far, far away from "Eye Of the Beholder"!! MJ Bachman NP Elvis Costello - Almost Blue ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:15:54 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Random note Rex says: > That's interesting... I love X, but I also like a far greater percentage of > New York-associated bands than LA-associated ones, so you'd think I would > agree with you there, but X seem to me like something that could only have > arisen in LA. Stuff like the Germs or Black Flag could conceivably have > arisen elsewhere, but not, to my mind, X. Maybe it's just my guess as X seems to be the only one of those bands that I feel like I have a sense of what they're talking about. The Black Flag is another band I don't get. If it matters, I'm talking about the band's lyrics as I rarely notice much else. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:22:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Random note There's a lot of showbiz in our boho, and occasionally >vice-versa. Exactly...and the general mindset so nicely expressed by Peter Bergman in one of the Firesign Theatre's readio shows as "serene and a little bit out of touch with reality." Just the way I like to be... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:27:12 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Ocelot! On Mar 16, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > I think they are on the endangered species list, as Ted Nugent now > lives > in Texas where most of the Ocelots roam. Nugent can go die. Most of the Ocelots roam in South America. They range as far north as southern Texas. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:31:12 -0500 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... Lots of digests to read lately with TV show references but I am not much of a TV person since we gave up cable, which was partly a financial decision and partly to limit our intake. Lauren referred to a "Friends" episode that tickled her: my daughter reminded me about a "Third Rock from the Sun" episode we liked. In it, Harry refers to Yoko Ono saying "I saw her on that TV show where she tries to convince Ricky to let her play the bongos in his band". The naive POV on that show often allowed the characters to hit the nail on the head. Speaking of the Beatles, I listened to Golden Slumbers today by the Beatles which is Paul McCartney at his most maudlin. I was in the mood to hear it for some reason. All rental DVDs at our house are now watched on my husband's laptop. It works by placing the laptop on a rather tall coffee table right in front of the couch. Viewing it this close, the screen appears no smaller than a larger TV screen viewed across the room. And during a more eccentric time in my life, I actually used opera glasses to watch movies. No more. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:44:20 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Random note Rex says: >> That's interesting... I love X, but I also like a far greater >> percentage of New York-associated bands than LA-associated ones, so >> you'd think I would agree with you there, but X seem to me like >> something that could only have arisen in LA. Stuff like the Germs or >> Black Flag could conceivably have arisen elsewhere, but not, to my mind, X. Lauren: >Maybe it's just my guess as X seems to be the only one of those bands that I feel like I have a sense of what they're talking about. The Black Flag is another band I don't get. If it matters, I'm talking about the band's lyrics as I rarely notice much else. Right you are Lauren. You get the feeling that John and Exene were writing the lyrics to their songs from observing the folks in their lower class neighborhood. It always seemed that way to me anyway. That being said, a lot of those songs could have come from any decaying rust belt city just as easily as LA. Apart from maybe the NYC sounding Dream Syndicate, the balance of the Paisley Underground bands sound like quintessential LA bands to my ears. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:16:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Random note On 3/16/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > Right you are Lauren. You get the feeling that John and Exene were > writing the lyrics to their songs from observing the > folks in their lower class neighborhood. It always seemed that way to me > anyway. That being said, a lot of those songs could have come from any > decaying rust belt city just as easily as LA. Maybe. Doe & Exene were definitely writing about their peers (and themselves) a fair amount of the time... and their LA then looks a lot more like other places now, culturally, than it did then, I'd say. > Apart from maybe the NYC > sounding Dream Syndicate, the balance of the Paisley Underground bands > sound like quintessential LA bands to my ears. Even Dream Syndicate really only sounded archly New Yorky on that first record. It could be that I'm off base, but I always thought that the term Paisley Underground itself was meant to connote a fusion between that classic LA pop thing and the darker sensibilities of (quite specifically) the Velvets. There sure was almost as much covering of VU songs as there was even of more local heroes (did/could anyone else besides X touch a Doors tune?) up until this very day... see the Hoffs/Sweet record... you sure hear that same West Coast harmony crossed with Velvetisms in bands like Beachwood Sparks and The Tyde these days. But yeah, most of those bands sounded very LA, in a good way. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:25:36 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: RE: TV, you're dying to know what I just got... - --- Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com wrote: Lot's of 50's and 60's TV shows series have probably not been released yet. Petticoat Junction, F-Troop, Branded, Broadside, etc. My favorite obscure 60's television show, although it got mentioned in Reservoir Dogs, was Honey West. She had a pet ocelot and drove a Shelby Cobra, and you can't get much more 60's cool than that. - -------------------------------------------------- One of my favorites from when I was a kid: "Voyagers!" -the time travel TV show about a time pirate and a 12 year old kid who travel through time and try to correct history. I still have them all on Beta, but I would fork out for a dvd release in a heartbeat. - -Nuppy MJ Bachman ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #104 ********************************