From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #97 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 12 2007 Volume 16 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Long and probably unnecessary posting ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) [Benjamin Lukoff ] SXSW [Jay Lyall ] RE: Philly show [djini@voicenet.com] Re: [loud-fans] our long national nightmare is over [2fs ] Re: Did we already go over this? [Capuchin ] Re: Did we already go over this? ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: TVManiax! [djini@voicenet.com] undigested [ken ostrander ] RE: undigested ["Bachman, Michael" ] Subject: Re: strange messages and Beatles ["David Stovall" ] Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) [Rex ] Re: Subject: Re: strange messages and Beatles [2fs Subject: Re: Long and probably unnecessary posting hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > > PS There is a gaping cheeseburger-shaped void in the whole of the above > discussion. I think I can fix that: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:51:52 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Did we already go over this? Bizarre--very interesting book but I didn't know it was going to be/is a movie. How'd they get around the sexist aspect? PS (unrelated) Watching season six of All in the Family on DVD right now...it really *was* quite radical for its time, wasn't it? On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > http://www.flatlandthemovie.com/ > > One of the best books ever! > > Personal note: between my inability to proof-read anything I type, > great skill of screening out useless and important information alike, > and late-night brain-drained posts, I occasionally go to the list in > the morning and think: geez, I kind of wish I could say I was drunk > when I made that post. Alas. > > xo > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:11:20 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) Lauren wrote: >...but if I had to choose between "Imagine" and "Ram" (and I do, of >course), it's "Imagine" all the way. "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" is tops for me...then prob. "All Things Must Pass," then "Imagine," then "Ram." Michael "Some of the Parts are Greater than Others..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Lauren wrote: > > >...but if I had to choose between "Imagine" and "Ram" (and I do, of > >course), it's "Imagine" all the way. > > "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" is tops for me...then prob. "All Things Must > Pass," then "Imagine," then "Ram." ATMP could have been *great* if it had been edited down a bit and the reverb toned down, eh? Or let me rephrase that--it was and *is* great, but it could have been REALLY great. Hey man, what about "Beaucoups of Blues"? :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Lyall Subject: SXSW Anyone else going this year? ############################# Jay Lyall Santa Barbara, California "Be good and you will be lonesome." - - Mark Twain - --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: RE: Philly show Max wrote: > > The White Dog cafe is about three blocks from > World Cafe and has a pretty good rep. The White Dog is pretty pricey, for me at least, and very cramped - I wouldn't take a big group there; though their menu always cracks me up ("Troll Caught Spiced Roasted Mahi Mahi Filet With a Citrus Shrimp and Avocado Salsa" - really, if it's not freshly caught by a troll, who needs it?). > I only ate at World Cafe once and > found it lacking, that was a long time ago though. Is anyone coming from > out of town for the Philly show? I'm driving in from Wilmington, but at this point Wilmington feels like a Philly suburb. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:30:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] our long national nightmare is over On 3/11/07, Michael Bowen wrote: > > Does anyone know if the iTunes Sort fields correspond to actual mp3 ID > fields, and if so, is there a tool that can be used to mass-change > groups of tracks? This new version managed to file about a third of my > nearly 30K tracks properly, which of course means that everything is > all screwed up, and changing tracks one at a time doesn't look like a > whole lot of fun. I would have thought that when you select multiple tracks (by the same artist, say), you could edit all tracks' sort-artist fields at once (just as you can edit the artist field for all tracks) under "get info." But apparently not. It would seem logical that the same fields show up under "info" for multiple tracks as for single tracks (some items would have to be grayed out, I suppose). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:21:44 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: London Town >Beyond the obvious choice of "Band on the Run," I also highly recommend the >(mostly) quiet pleasures of 1978's "London Town"; most people may be a >little sick of the overplay of "With a Little Luck" (which I don't mind at >all), but the rest of it is a fine semi-contemplative (well, as much as Paul >gets, anyway) Macca/Denny Laine record with some excellent songs (the title >track, "I'm Carrying," "Children Children," "I've Had Enough," the funny >"Famous Groupies," "Don't Let It Bring You Down"). My twinned (16 year old) >1978 musical passions: "London Town" at one extreme; The Clash, Elvis >Costello, et al, at the other... I've been fighting the battle for that album seemingly singlehandedly for years. LT is, IMO, a neglected gem. it's also highly recommended as a way of getting young kids interested in music. And you neglected to say that the title track is rather wonderful, too... James (who coincidentally bought the DVD of The Princess Bride in a cut-out bin a couple of days ago) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:52:15 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: [loud-fans] our long national nightmare is over - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 11. Mdrz 2007 19:30:43 -0500 regarding Re: [loud-fans] our long national nightmare is over: > On 3/11/07, Michael Bowen wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if the iTunes Sort fields correspond to actual mp3 ID >> fields, and if so, is there a tool that can be used to mass-change >> groups of tracks? This new version managed to file about a third of my >> nearly 30K tracks properly, which of course means that everything is >> all screwed up, and changing tracks one at a time doesn't look like a >> whole lot of fun. > > > I would have thought that when you select multiple tracks (by the same > artist, say), you could edit all tracks' sort-artist fields at once (just > as you can edit the artist field for all tracks) under "get info." But > apparently not. It took me a while to figure this out myself. Currently you need to do this: change the sorting information for *one* track, then right-click that track and choose the appropriate sorting field (sorry, have the German version so I'm not sure what it's called in English). - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:51:28 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: London Town On 3/11/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > >Beyond the obvious choice of "Band on the Run," I also highly recommend > the > >(mostly) quiet pleasures of 1978's "London Town"; most people may be a > >little sick of the overplay of "With a Little Luck" (which I don't mind > at > >all), but the rest of it is a fine semi-contemplative (well, as much as > Paul > >gets, anyway) Macca/Denny Laine record with some excellent songs (the > title > >track, "I'm Carrying," "Children Children," "I've Had Enough," the funny > >"Famous Groupies," "Don't Let It Bring You Down"). > > I've been fighting the battle for that album seemingly singlehandedly > for years. LT is, IMO, a neglected gem. Well, add me and Stephen Thomas Erlewine to the list. I remember likening "Girlfriend" to the sound of nails on a chalkboard...but the rest is pretty fine, even the lighter-weight stuff, and I may well feel differently about "Girlfriend" now. Haven't listened to it for years - actually, I think the whole McCartney solo/Wings catalog is due for a re-listening in my ears. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Did we already go over this? On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > Bizarre--very interesting book but I didn't know it was going to be/is a > movie. How'd they get around the sexist aspect? Of course, the right thing to do is leave it in. It's not just sexist, but classist as well. The segregation and stratification of the society of Flatland mirrors Victorian society (hence, the values of many elite folk in our own). > PS (unrelated) Watching season six of All in the Family on DVD right > now...it really *was* quite radical for its time, wasn't it? I've actually been thinking about that alot recently. Haven't watched the show since I was a kid, though. I'd be interested to see some of them. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:35:09 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Did we already go over this? Benjamin Lukoff says: > Bizarre--very interesting book but I didn't know it was going to be/is a > movie. How'd they get around the sexist aspect? That's the best part! I love how those Flatland women have to shake their butts all the time so as to not accidentally (or purposely!) massacre people. xo Lauren, "once a woman, always a woman" - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Did we already go over this? On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Capuchin wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > Bizarre--very interesting book but I didn't know it was going to be/is a > > movie. How'd they get around the sexist aspect? > > Of course, the right thing to do is leave it in. It's not just sexist, > but classist as well. The segregation and stratification of the society > of Flatland mirrors Victorian society (hence, the values of many elite > folk in our own). That would be the right thing to do, rather than bowlderize as they've done with Dr. Doolittle, but I'd be surprised if they DID do the right thing... > > PS (unrelated) Watching season six of All in the Family on DVD right > > now...it really *was* quite radical for its time, wasn't it? > > I've actually been thinking about that alot recently. Haven't watched the > show since I was a kid, though. I'd be interested to see some of them. Is it still on in syndication anywhere? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:53:34 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: TVManiax! Hm, this is weird - I sent the message below on Monday (which may not seem like a long time ago in days, but there have been like 57 digests since then) and it seems to have never made it to the list. So I will try again. - ---------------------- Chris, then Lauren wrote: > > > > Cool! I guess it's just Netflix who separates them out. So, anyone > > who might stll be reading, don't worry about what I said earlier unless[] > > you're getting BSG from Netflix. I personally got all of season 1 > > through BitTorrent (another feverish week much like the one with > > Veronica Mars), but I may well shell out money for the DVDs someday > > soon. It's that good. > > Thanks for the information as I will be getting them from Netflix. > Hey, me too! I just finished the first 2 seasons of Veronica Mars (as well as watching s3, so what with all the flashbacks that was an extremely non-linear experience) and as soon as my eyes stop hurting I'll be watching BSG from the beginning. So, um, back to that Robyn guy: the Philly fegmeet approaches - Lauren and I are in. Michael Sweeney? Anyone else interested? Also, is anyone else doing the one-two punch of Robyn-Monday/Decemberists-Tuesday? God, I'm going to be useless at work that week. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: undigested heading to florida today; so i thought i'd get this out there before i left. re: my name is "buffy", and I have it on very good authority that jesus' blood never failed me yet > Buffy is kind of like the Bible and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the > Galaxy, in that you can find something in it to relate to almost any > situation in life. like seinfeld. or star trek. i have to admit that i haven't watched much buffy. i don't expect to be soon, though i hope that my daughter will have a phase at some point. for the time being i have to make the most of blue's clues, wonderpets, and dragon tales. >>>In general, I think politics in art, whether it's film, TV, literature or music, works better when it arises naturally from individual characters' stories, than when the artist picks a political message first and then tries to illustrate it. <<< >> Or at least acknowleges that characters or perspectives are necessary to make anyone even care about the politics... << i guess that's the problem when you can tell that the message came first and the characters are not quite fleshed out enough. often the characters become tokens or caricatures and it seems rather obvious that the artist does not care very much for the subject. that's why the fully realized dark characters resonate so much more. >>> The final season is about how emergent leaders must, periodically, disperse their accumulated power to others if the collective is to survive and not become an institution (which is, of course, the first evil from an anarchist perspective). I could go on. <<< our hearts will go on. in my experience, the emergent leaders have been involved in the formation of the collective and find it difficult to let go; so their fingers have to be peeled away one at a time like little children. >>> We can draw political lessons from those stories, just like we can draw political lessons from real-life personal experiences. Nothing wrong with that. But it's not the only valid way of understanding at the show, and our ability to draw political lessons doesn't prove that Mutant Enemy *intended* those political lessons. <<< we can see whatever we want to see in all things all the time. the thing with the political mindset is that once you see the way things work, you cannot go back to not seeing. you can pretend or rationalize or even get off the grid and live in a shack in montana; but the knowledge eats you up until you deal with it. there's a grieving process involved where you come to accept the way things are. >>> The interesting thing about "disperse their accumulated power" is that in order to do that, people need to understand that "power" isn't singular, that different sorts of powers coexist, some of them earned and useful, others unearned and often destructive, and many lying in between those extremes. <<< well said. i think the way physical power is used to control is the most destructive. i know that i have to be able to stop my daughter from running into the street; but there comes a time when she will need to be trusted on her own. >>> questioning terms of engagement with a system and whether that system is inherently corrupt or corrupt primarily because of who occupies its nodes of power. <<< disengagement from the system is the only answer sometimes. when we give these corrupt systems all of our attention and energy, we don't anything left to focus on something better. at the very least, you can have fun storming the castle. >>he must be a superhero vampire with a soul... Note that he does *not* know he has a chip implanted, nor that he's supposedly still "evil" in intention.) << aren't we all? >I don't really care much about intention these days, anyway.< i prefer when people do nice things for manipulative reasons over when they do terrible things with good intentions. subject: re: sarah silverman >a great idea, poorly executed.< mean humor is just sad. >>> Punishment was useless, they just fed off each other. <<< like on hogan's heroes? >> I want to say to her- Look, honey, if the only way you can get laughs is by being "naughty", maybe you should rethink this whole comedy thing. << it certainly has a shelf life. when the "naughty appeal" fades, so does the career. > Sort of a pyrrhic victory, I think, but then what do I know? I'm just a girl. < obviously, she doesn't want to be taken seriously. >>>> If it weren't for some right-place-right-time photographer, and the Drudge Report's publication of the resulting photo, no one would have a clue what Janet Jackson's right breast looked like. (Okay, well not "no one" - but no one not intimately acquainted with Ms. Jackson.) <<<< well, you get a clue from the cover of her second album. >>>> That repercussions of that non-event are still detectable *today* however many years later - in the way networks get extremely freaked out about the possibility of anything "indecent" accidentally getting aired (ads for _Norbit_ inexplicably exempted) - is yet another item in the ongoing proof that most Americans are batshit insane about sex and the body. <<<< it really is twisted. the violence of programming and the news has no ill effects; but the human body, or rather the nipple, is going to bring everything down? victorian secrets are out. victorian squid is in. >> You can't really dust for vomit.... > >I thought that's what school janitors did all the time... i remember in elementary school the janitor offered up ten whole dollars to find out the identity of the boy who did a ten-two-hundred in the urinal. what was he going to do if he found out who did the deed? i mean, what's worse than cleaning up someone's excriment? >>>> And the video for "Bachelorette" is what made me fall for Bjork. <<<< "birthday" is what did it for me. i was so smitten that i jumped up on stage while the sugarcubes were playing it and kissed her. ah youth. "bachelorette" is one that i never tire of hearing. >>>>>>>>>> >> Having read the issue in question, I can say it was the only way that >> the Red Skull could get to him. From a storytelling perspective i >> think it was chosen becasue it helps the story leave about 3 different >> ways his death could be faked. Making way for Cap's inevitable return >> in a year or two. why do i keep thinking captain america is like the phantom or the dread pirate roberts? >>Did Captain America pass on his mantle to other people, briefly? Or am >>I thinking of Iron Man or Green >Lantern? ISTR a black Captain America, >>but maybe that was a What If? or somethin'. > >You guys have lost me. I thought Captain America died along with Billy >at the end of Easy Rider. have you ever snarffed kashi flakes? drizzled with ulee's gold? >>> The black Captain America was a recent story that showed that true original Captain America was a black guy that was given powers in a Tuskegee style beta test. <<< certainly beats syphilis. >Iron Man has been passed around a few times since its just a suit of >armor. you make him sound like a blowup doll at a bachelor party. >and the Green Lantern is a police force so there have been >hundereds of green Lanterns. "i'll tuck you in sweetie!" says your biggest mistake. what was it that made the ring work? faith? it was always very strange to see a mos eisley motley crew of aliens; but all dressed up in the same eerie green (storm) lantern uniform. >>> Captain America has passed on his mantle several times. Back in the seventies he quit and was replaced by some dude named Roscoe who was later murdered by the Red Skull. In the eighties (concurrent with Iran-Contra), Cap quit in disgust over the White House being corrupted by the Secret Serpent Society and was replaced by a guy who now works under the name U.S. Agent. <<< wait...isn't the secret serpent society tied to skull and bones? or is it a cover for the fact that the reptiles are taking over? http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/ >>>> I tend to think that the middle years of X-Files were pretty tightly constructed as well... the thing just became unfininishable due to ego, contract disputes, ego, weak network support for the creator's other projects (ego), mounting budgets, ego, a dry well of stand-alone concepts, and ego. <<<< leggo my ego. certainly, the show struggled with duchovney stopping by for cameos; but they soldiered on to complete the arc. i think that after the movie the show was never the same. maybe they were getting too close to the truth? >> >> I just found out that Christopher Guest is married to Jamie-Lee >> Curtis >> but I still have no idea what he really looks like > >Haven't you seen Waiting For Guffman? or Best In Show? A Mighty >Wind? For Your Consideration? > saturday night live? spinal tap? oh wait, isn't this where we came in... > P.S. Still have an unopened "The Princess Bride" that a friend gave > me. Is it recommended viewing? it's a great movie that you can watch over and over, as someone mentioned. >>> RE: Jamie Lee-Curtis - I had guy two friends in high school that I would occasionally argue with about whether JLC has large breasts**. They were quite insistent that she does indeed. It seems to me that it varies (at least in appearance) by movie. Regardless (obviously), JLC is cool in my book. <<< there really is no argument. a fish called wanda: wanda: what about my tits? otto: does he get to handle them? wanda: yes. that's my forecast. i'll stand by that. k-k-k-ken "crazy as a bedbug on acid" the kenster is coming to k-k-k-kill me np zero 7 'when it falls' - --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:04:44 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: undigested I tend to think that the middle years of X-Files were pretty tightly constructed as well... the thing just became unfininishable due to ego, contract disputes, ego, weak network support for the creator's other projects (ego), mounting budgets, ego, a dry well of stand-alone concepts, and ego. <<<< >leggo my ego. certainly, the show struggled with duchovney stopping by for cameos; but they soldiered on to complete the arc. i think that after the movie the show was never the same. maybe they were getting too close to the truth? I think the downfall started after season five when they moved the production of the show from Vancouver to LA. They lost those dark, rainy, woodsy, encapsulated episodes that were so great that could not be shot in LA. The stand-alone concepts were still pretty decent in season six, but season seven, ugh! MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:31:50 -0800 From: "David Stovall" Subject: Subject: Re: strange messages and Beatles >From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz >>White Album crushes all other Beatles albums. Even without >>"Revolution #9" which still creeps me the hell out. > >There is a boot bersion of R9 which is intiguing since you can hear >quite a bit more of what's actually going on in there. Well worth >tracking down. And, SPOILER ALERT: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...on at least one such bootleg, it can be clearly heard that Lennon is ABSOLUTELY saying "cranberry sauce" over and over again, and NOT "I buried Paul." Why? Who the fuck knows. But it was cranberry sauce on the boot, and I think it's an edit of that very same take on the official release. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:40:07 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) On 3/10/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > > > I tend to agree with Stewart that the Beatles were a boy band who got > lucky, but the ultimate test is survival > < > > so paul and ringo win? as long as they keep putting out albums, they've > passed the ultimate test? certainly, they've got to do more than that. I interpreted "survival" as "endurance of a body of work". Otherwise, hell, isn't Pat Boone still alive? So he and Little Richard are still locked in a literal Celebrity Death Match over whose "Tutti Frutti" is superior... - -Rex yes, they were a boy band that made it big; but luck is such a dismissive > term. luck will only get you to the first crisis (for the quarrymen, maybe > the "bigger than jesus" fiasco). these guys had mad skills. their covers > alone kick ass. still, they had one of the greatest songwriting teams of > all time. it doesn't happen often that the most popular band is also the > most experimental. they took advantage of their success and made > challenging records that utilized genuine songcraft. > > > > > >The Future of Rock n' Roll< > > can't hear this without thinking of 'rain man'. "bam!" actually, the > internet has been making it so much easier to circumvent the conglomeration > of music (though apparently myspace [owned by news international] uses any > and all content on its site without compensating the artist -- > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/08/blly_bragg_myspace/ ) by levelling > the playing field and giving equal access. the future is in our hands, > dawgs. everyone needs to make their own music. otherwise, we'll be left to > panic at the fallout. i think that if we save rock 'n' roll for too long, > it might get moldy in the back of the fridge. savor the > flavor. mmm...delicious vinyl. > > > > ken "harvesting your future" the kenster > > > np brian eno 'here come the warm jets' > > > > > --------------------------------- > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:46:55 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: beatles (s# c # a# r) On 3/11/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Lauren wrote: > > >...but if I had to choose between "Imagine" and "Ram" (and I do, of > >course), it's "Imagine" all the way. > > "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" is tops for me...then prob. "All Things > Must > Pass," then "Imagine," then "Ram." I have almost all solo Lennon, about half of solo Harrison, one Ringo, and zero solo Paul (save a CDR of his latest passed on to my by a friend). Which sounds kind of poseury of me, but in my early listening days, my brother had a solo best-of-Macca which I listened to a lot, until one day I realized I didn't really like a single thing on it, especially since I was still hearing some Beatles records for the first time. I've never really looked back and maybe should, but there are plenty of ways to hear Paul's solo records by accident, so that seems to take care of me. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:51:42 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Subject: Re: strange messages and Beatles On 3/12/07, David Stovall wrote: > > >From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz > >>White Album crushes all other Beatles albums. Even without > >>"Revolution #9" which still creeps me the hell out. > > > >There is a boot bersion of R9 which is intiguing since you can > hear > >quite a bit more of what's actually going on in there. Well > worth > >tracking down. > > And, SPOILER ALERT: > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > ...on at least one such bootleg, it can be clearly heard that > Lennon is ABSOLUTELY saying "cranberry sauce" over and over again, > and NOT "I buried Paul." Why? Who the fuck knows. But it was > cranberry sauce on the boot, and I think it's an edit of that > very same take on the official release. Uh, but...the "cranberry sauce" thing is on the fade to "Strawberry Fields Forever" - not "Revolution No. 9." It's pretty easy to hear it as "cranberry sauce" on the official take, once you know that's what he's saying. Either that, or he's saying "Cram Barry Soss," Mr. Soss being an attorney Lennon was irked at. I'm making this up as I go along. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #97 *******************************