From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #92 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 8 2007 Volume 16 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: S # C # A # R ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] RE: S # C # A # R ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: S # C # A # R ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: S # C # A # R [Rex ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 ["John Irvine" ] RE: S # C # A # R ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 [Rex ] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: S # C # A # R [Rex ] RE: Yeah, Alright ... ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Sweet/Hoffs ["Mark P" ] Re: Reap: The author is now well and truly dead [kevin ] RE: S # C # A # R ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 [2fs ] Re: reap [2fs ] Re: S # C # A # R [2fs ] Re: Yeah, Alright ... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] RE: S # C # A # R [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: S # C # A # R [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: S # C # A # R ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Reap: The author is now well and truly dead [The Great Quail ] Re: S # C # A # R [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Yeah, Alright ... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 [Rex ] Re: S # C # A # R ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 [Rex ] Re: Yeah, Alright ... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:58:23 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: S # C # A # R Rex says: > My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's because > Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. This "Revolver" and "Rubber Soul" talk is a bit of a problem for me as in my world "Revolver" does not contain "And Your Bird Can Sing." http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:6s320rnac489 Similar sad story with "Rubber Soul" and "Drive My Car": http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0m6zefwkhgf8 Having two versions of those albums really shouldn't even be allowed by law. But of my versions, I like "Revolver" better because their personalities were starting to poke through on that one. White Album crushes all other Beatles albums. Even without "Revolution #9" which still creeps me the hell out. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:05:04 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: S # C # A # R BL wrote: >Does anyone else hear a gradual slowing of the tempo in YWSM? It could be the fault of the recording machine slowing down. I know the unit down at Criterion Studio in Miami would give Tom Dowd fits, and he would have to try an compensate. So stated the notes in the 20th Anniversary Layla box set. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:11:09 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) Jason Brown says: > Are you all still reading actual made from dead trees newspapers? How gouache! I am too cheap to buy the paper, but I confess that one of my favourite things about visiting my parents is going through the pile of the last few days worth of The New York Times. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:12:52 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: S # C # A # R Benjamin Lukoff says: > Does anyone else hear a gradual slowing of the tempo in YWSM? Yes, definitely and have always wondered whether I was imagining it. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:29:56 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On 3/8/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > This "Revolver" and "Rubber Soul" talk is a bit of a problem for me as > in my world "Revolver" does not contain "And Your Bird Can Sing." > > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:6s320rnac489 > > Similar sad story with "Rubber Soul" and "Drive My Car": > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0m6zefwkhgf8 Even weirder, I first heard Rubber Soul, which I purchased on the same day as my very first Robyn album, in the "US brown-spine cassette version", which has the same tracks as the UK LP, but in a different order for some bizarre reason-- starts with "Norwegian Wood". Anyone else remember these? The "blue spine" Beatles cassettes were the UK releases in the right order, I think, but each album was either brown or blue... did I just imagine all of this? It was all pre-CD. And yeah, my parents actually didn't have an Beatles albums (just 45's), so I had to buy the cassettes. My early life was funny that way. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:32:35 -0500 From: "John Irvine" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 "Rex wrote: >My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. Revolver or Rubber Soul for me. It's a toss up. Never liked Abbey Road that much though, and Sgt. Pepper has lost a lot of it's charm for me over the years." My favorite at the moment is everything they recorded between Peppers and the White album. Put 'em in a playlist and you're golden - the non-orchestra Submarine tracks and the Mystery Tour stuff and a b-side or two. Mm mm good. Love all that double-splangeing. I also fell in love all over again with Peppers when I found a copy of the original mono mixes on one of those rip-all-yer-vinyl-to-mp3-and-upload-to-rapidshare blogs. The subtle differences make you hear it all afresh. Can't get enough of the Rita "Aaaaaaaah" sections. - -J http://www.thejennifers.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:33:47 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: S # C # A # R Rex says: >> My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's >> because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. My second favorite Lauren (after my niece) stated: >This "Revolver" and "Rubber Soul" talk is a bit of a problem for me as in my world "Revolver" does not contain >"And Your Bird Can Sing." http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:6s320rnac489 >Similar sad story with "Rubber Soul" and "Drive My Car": http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0m6zefwkhgf8 >Having two versions of those albums really shouldn't even be allowed by law. >But of my versions, I like "Revolver" better because their personalities were starting to poke through on that one. >White Album crushes all other Beatles albums. Even without "Revolution #9" which still creeps me the hell out. Consider yourself lucky you didn't have to live the throught the "Paul is Dead" story creep out that actually broke from a local Detroit radio station when I was a teenager. MJ Bachman NP Grant McLennan - Horsebreaker Star (dual disc English import version I just bought) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:45:56 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 On 3/8/07, John Irvine wrote: > > My favorite at the moment is everything they recorded between Peppers > and the White album. Put 'em in a playlist and you're golden - the > non-orchestra Submarine tracks and the Mystery Tour stuff and a b-side > or two. Mm mm good. Love all that double-splangeing. You have a pretty strong case there! I also fell in love all over again with Peppers when I found a copy of > the original mono mixes on one of those > rip-all-yer-vinyl-to-mp3-and-upload-to-rapidshare blogs. The subtle > differences make you hear it all afresh. Can't get enough of the Rita > "Aaaaaaaah" sections. "Rita" rules. And though I know John kinda disowned it later, I even really like "Good Morning". And yeah, no amount of dreadful Gomez covers on commercials for flat screen TVs can ruin "Getting Better". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:40:28 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > P.S. I was watching some of "Spinal Tap" the other night. In case > you were worried, it's *still* funny. The audio commentary is > great as well. I just thought of the part where they describe the > band member who choked on vomit that was not his own... You can't really dust for vomit.... "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:55:24 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On 3/8/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > NP Grant McLennan - Horsebreaker Star (dual disc English import version > I just bought) What are the boni on that? I love that record. It's kind of bizarre how well it works on me... it has this production feel that could almost be described as generic middle-of-the-road jangle, replete with 12-strings and Syd Straw, but that style works for me on every single song, feeling like a perfect fit. Maybe it's because the songs are so good, and so many records with that basic sound cruise on the sound alone, and I secretly know in my heart of hearts that I love that sound, it's just that I've been burned by lazy records with that sheen way too many times, or... hell, I dunno. It really gets me, though. It's even kind of long, although it does diversify as it develops. But it's great. Feels like it should be a guilty pleasure, but I don't feel the guilt. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:11:40 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Yeah, Alright ... Stewart: > Fellow-feg and Of Montrealer The Late B. P. Helium's Byrdsy take on "Alright, Yeah" That's alright! And could it be cooler than to be a feg AND be in Of Montreal? I think not. Deathly afraid because I heard Kylie Minogue and HelloGoodbye songs that I didn't actually mind so much... Michael "spring is nearly here, disco must be in the air" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:12:34 -0500 From: "Mark P" Subject: Re: Sweet/Hoffs Suzy ... OH MY! 'bout sums up this red blooded boy's thoughts concerning "The Girl w/The Guitar"! ...heck, I'd write a song about her too ...TWO even, if I could write songs that is. Woman's defininitely getting better ...not older! Under The Covers Vol.1 is one of my last year's favs! Fav song off it ..."I See The Rain" by The Marmalade ...cannot wait to see if Vol.2 ever happens. Sid ... Matthew Sweet looks like frikkin' Grizzly Adams these days. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:14:18 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Reap: The author is now well and truly dead Don't mean to quibble but wasn't it Roland Barthes who proclaimed the death of the author some years back? - -----Original Message----- >From: The Great Quail >Sent: Mar 7, 2007 11:34 AM >To: Fegmaniax! >Subject: Reap: The author is now well and truly dead > >Jean Baudrillard > >The Associated Press > >March 6, 2007, PARIS: Jean Baudrillard, a French philosopher and >social theorist known for his provocative commentaries on >consumerism, excess and what he said was the disappearance of >reality, died Tuesday, his publishing house said. He was 77. > >Baudrillard died at his home in Paris after a long illness, said >Michel Delorme, of the Galilee publishing house. > >The two men had worked together since 1977, when "Oublier >Foucault" (Forget Foucault) was published, one of about 30 books by >Baudrillard, Delorme said by telephone. > >Among his last published books was "Cool Memories V," in 2005. > >Baudrillard, a sociologist by training, is perhaps best known for his >concepts of "hyperreality" and "simulation." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:17:09 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 3/8/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > > > Did Captain America pass on his mantle to other people, briefly? Or am > I > > thinking of Iron Man or Green Lantern? ISTR a black Captain America, > but > > maybe that was a What If? or somethin'. > > Captain America has passed on his mantle several times. Back in the > seventies he quit and was replaced by some dude named Roscoe who was > later murdered by the Red Skull. In the eighties (concurrent with > Iran-Contra), Cap quit in disgust over the White House being corrupted That wasn't when he was calling himself "Cap Weinberger" was it? And just to clarify: it wasn't *our* Cap killed by a sniper's bullet (from the UCSD campus...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:18:18 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: S # C # A # R - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:55 PM To: Bachman, Michael Cc: crustaceans ripped my flesh Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On 3/8/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > NP Grant McLennan - Horsebreaker Star (dual disc English import > version I just bought) >What are the bonus cuts on that? A great, great version of "Ballad Of Easy Rider" that is so touching now in lieu of Grant's passing last year, sniff, sniff, which still cuts me to the quick. At lease I got to share some Heinekens that Grant and Robert were passing out backstage after the 7th House show in Pontiac in June Of 1999. I barely got a chance to talk to him though after the Go-Betweens Chicago show at the Abbey Pub in 2005. Grant's death has effected me more than any musician I have ever liked, probably because his lyrics were so touching and personal. Please stay healthy Robyn!! >I love that record. It's kind of bizarre how well it works on me... it has this production feel that could almost be described as generic middle-of-the-road jangle, replete with 12-strings and Syd Straw, but that style works for me on every single song, feeling like a perfect fit. Maybe it's because the songs are so good, and so many records with that basic sound cruise on the sound alone, and I secretly know in my heart of hearts that I love that sound, it's just that I've been burned by lazy records with that sheen way too many times, or... hell, I dunno. It really gets me, though. It's even kind of long, although it does diversify as it develops. But it's great. Feels like it should be a guilty pleasure, but I don't feel the guilt. Rex, pick up a used copy, it's worth it just for BOER! The other cuts are just icing on the cake. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:21:32 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On 3/8/07, Rex wrote: > > > One could argue that Doonesbury and its ilk are equally more op-ed > cartoons than starndard comics, but I don't think so. Everything in > Doonesbury comes out of the characters and as part of a plot arc, even the > stuff with the president and other real-life caricatures... nonethelesss, > some papers do put Doonesbury on the op-ed page. MF doesn't even give you > characters to grasp onto-- even the pretty lame Prickly City does that-- and > it is, yes, mean-spirited to boot. > > And what the hell was up with last month's MF Howard Dean satire? Howard > Dean? Smart money says Doonesbury doesn't have a "Bob Dole is old" joke up > its sleeve any time soon, so what's up with MF doing Howard Dean, still? > You couldn't help but look at that and think, what, are the current > Democratic candidates so good that you can't think of anything bad to say > about them? OR ARE YOU JUST DRUNK? > People who enjoy lobbing firebombs at comics should check out the Comics Curmudgeon website (www.joshreads.com). Anyway: MF will still occasionally haul out Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick...I haven't noticed, but I'm sure he's still burned about Jane Fonda too. (And no, he's not 60 years old - must've been hanging around American Legion grumps or something.) That's the equivalent of lefties digging up Nixon to piss on. (Although nowadays, Nixon would probably be described as a moderate - and the raw-meat Republicans would be calling him a RINO. Truly bizarre... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:23:11 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 On 3/8/07, John Irvine wrote: > > > > My favorite at the moment is everything they recorded between Peppers > and the White album. Put 'em in a playlist and you're golden - the > non-orchestra Submarine tracks and the Mystery Tour stuff and a b-side > or two. Mm mm good. Love all that double-splangeing. You'll enjoy this then: < http://jestaplero.blogspot.com/2007/03/if-youre-lonely-you-can-talk-to-me.html > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:23:47 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 3/8/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > P.S. I was watching some of "Spinal Tap" the other night. In case > > you were worried, it's *still* funny. The audio commentary is > > great as well. I just thought of the part where they describe the > > band member who choked on vomit that was not his own... > > You can't really dust for vomit.... I thought that's what school janitors did all the time... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:28:48 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On 3/8/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > > > Nothing wrong with "You Won't See Me" in my book. I'm not as keen on > > "Girl", though. > > Does anyone else hear a gradual slowing of the tempo in YWSM? I don't recall it - I'll have to give it a listen. But does anyone else here a fairly major intonation change at "you make" in "The End"? I don't mean a modulation - I mean if your guitar or piano is in tune with the first part of the song, it's not with the ending (pretty much from the orchestra onward). I think it goes sharp - but I don't have it with me, so I can't be sure. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:45:11 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Yeah, Alright ... Michael Wells says: > Deathly afraid because I heard Kylie Minogue and HelloGoodbye songs that > I didn't actually mind so much... Don't be afraid...if only for this reason, Kylie is the shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaiw3Qqx1Rk I am embarrassed to post a link to such a poor quality version of that video. Michel Gondry's videos are breathtaking. I don't know how he thinks of this stuff, let alone executes it. The one that really makes me dizzy is the video for oh I think it's "Let Forever Be" by The Chemical Brothers (it's the one where scenes and ideas just kind of sweepingly morph into one another). And the video for "Bachelorette" is what made me fall for Bjork. I don't buy very many DVDs but this one I have: http://www.amazon.com/Directors-Vol-Director-Michel-Gondry/dp/B0000DBJ9J/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8458211-2127155?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1173386136&sr=8-1 Mr. Gondry can also solve the Rubik's cube with his feet ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiQXgmVVGNA&mode=related&search= xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: S # C # A # R On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > BL wrote: > > >Does anyone else hear a gradual slowing of the tempo in YWSM? > > It could be the fault of the recording machine slowing down. I know the > unit down at Criterion Studio in Miami would give Tom Dowd fits, and he > would have to try an compensate. So stated the notes in the 20th > Anniversary Layla box set. I just hear the tempo slowing down, not the pitch--so I don't think it's the tape machine's fault. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Benjamin Lukoff says: > > Does anyone else hear a gradual slowing of the tempo in YWSM? > > Yes, definitely and have always wondered whether I was imagining it. Oh good. When I used to be on rec.music.beatles they would insist either that it didn't exist or that it was an auditory illusion. Who knows--maybe it IS an auditory illusion--I haven't played it along with a metronome--but it really bugs me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:53:55 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: S # C # A # R Benjamin Lukoff says: > Oh good. When I used to be on rec.music.beatles they would insist either > that it didn't exist or that it was an auditory illusion. Who knows--maybe > it IS an auditory illusion--I haven't played it along with a > metronome--but it really bugs me. Is it a particular version that you've listened to (e.g. CD, vinyl)? I have probably pretty much only heard it on the LP that I have. Also I have an ancient book about The Beatles that I think mentions it. Boy this is dredging up the past, but I will check it to see if I'm remembering correctly. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:46:28 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Reap: The author is now well and truly dead > Don't mean to quibble but wasn't it Roland Barthes who proclaimed the death of > the author some years back? Well, you are right, insofar as Barthes wrote the famous essay. I wasn't really trying to reference that or attribute it to Baudrillard; it was just that...well, you know, one of the last living French poststructuralist died, so.... Rough bunch, you. - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:16:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Yeah, Alright ... On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Michael Wells says: >> Deathly afraid because I heard Kylie Minogue and HelloGoodbye >> songs that >> I didn't actually mind so much... > > Don't be afraid...if only for this reason, Kylie is the shit: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaiw3Qqx1Rk > > I am embarrassed to post a link to such a poor quality version of that > video. Michel Gondry's videos are breathtaking. > > I don't buy very many DVDs but this one I have: > http://www.amazon.com/Directors-Vol-Director-Michel-Gondry/dp/ > B0000DBJ9J/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8458211-2127155? > ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1173386136&sr=8-1 I rented that from Netflix after a recommendation by somefeg. Excellent stuff. And just last weekend we rented The Science of Sleep - that was amazing as well. Dude is genius. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:27:12 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: S # C # A # R CD On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Benjamin Lukoff says: > > Oh good. When I used to be on rec.music.beatles they would insist either > > that it didn't exist or that it was an auditory illusion. Who knows--maybe > > it IS an auditory illusion--I haven't played it along with a > > metronome--but it really bugs me. > > Is it a particular version that you've listened to (e.g. CD, vinyl)? > I have probably pretty much only heard it on the LP that I have. > > Also I have an ancient book about The Beatles that I think mentions > it. Boy this is dredging up the past, but I will check it to see if > I'm remembering correctly. > > xo > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:00:19 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 >My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. y'all gonna cringe at this, but Guadalcanal Diary did a great cover of AYBCS. > Are you all still reading actual made from dead trees newspapers? How > gouache! Now now, don't lose your tempera! Re: Beatles, Revolver by a narrow nose ahead of Rubber Soul, with A Hard Day's Night third, largely for sentimental reasons. James (what? Someone on the list who hasn't heard a Who classic???) RIP John Inman - free at last - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:23:09 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Yeah, Alright ... Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Don't be afraid...if only for this reason, Kylie is the shit: Uh, spare definite article there. She'll never be more than a tiny Australian squeaking head to me. And now she wants to be Madonna. Yeah, and I'm a trolleybus. Gondry is nifty, and it pains me to namecheck an ad, but the Ariston ads did this in the mid-80s. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:27:25 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 On 3/8/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > >My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's > because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. > > y'all gonna cringe at this, but Guadalcanal Diary did a great cover of > AYBCS. I like it, too... it's strange that they chose to change the signature guitar melody to a completely different, but equally complex one. I've kind of idly wondered if it isn't meant to be the third part to the two-part lead guitar harmony on the original. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:29:07 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: S # C # A # R > The only reason I don't fill my top ten lists with the Beatles catalog and > the Beatles catalog only is because that would be really boring. I still think they were a boy band who happened to be in the right place at the right time to catch the major wave of Boomer disposable income. But you knew of old that I thought that. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:44:01 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:00 PM, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > y'all gonna cringe at this, but Guadalcanal Diary did a great cover > of AYBCS. Check out Overwhelming Colorfast's cover of "She Said, She Said" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:12:03 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 On 3/8/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:00 PM, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > y'all gonna cringe at this, but Guadalcanal Diary did a great cover > > of AYBCS. > > Check out Overwhelming Colorfast's cover of "She Said, She Said" Or, coming full circle, Matthew Sweet's. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:36:51 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Yeah, Alright ... Hi Fegs, Stewart C. Russell says: > Uh, spare definite article there. She'll never be more than a tiny > Australian squeaking head to me. And now she wants to be Madonna. Yeah, > and I'm a trolleybus. I thought she wanted to be Madonna quite a long time ago. I certainly don't claim Kylie is some huge talent, but I think she's a great entertainer. And she wears some interesting clothes. Although as an entertainer, that's probably part of her job. > Gondry is nifty, and it pains me to namecheck an ad, but the Ariston ads > did this in the mid-80s. I didn't see the ads when they ran on television but watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA2Qp5DizpE Obviously I'm missing some information with just seeing that one, but I'm curious in what way you think they are like Gondry's stuff? The Ariston ad seems to go inside the world of the washing machine where there's more than meets the eye, but Gondry's material is to me different. His best IMO is when he creates a world and then feeds it back onto itself and things start to get a bit funny. This happens in the Kylie Minogue video, the video for "Bachelorette", "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind", the video for "Sugar Water"... it's always like a snake eating its own tail. But with a twist. But then again, all the best things are like a snake eating its own tail...feedback, zen mind, "this sentence is false", and the Halting Problem for starters. xo P.S. I completely spaced on the "The Science of Sleep" when it ran...I just put it on the NetQ (whatever the hell that abbreviation was, it needs to be easier to remember!) - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #92 *******************************