From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 8 2007 Volume 16 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Robyn stuff (mostly) [Rex ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [Tom Clark ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [2fs ] S # C # A # R ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Youth Decay ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Robyn makes another list... ["Jon Studyvin" ] Re: S # C # A # R [Sebastian Hagedorn ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [Rex ] Re: S # C # A # R [Rex ] Re: reap ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: S # C # A # R [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) ["Jason Brown" ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [Christopher Gross ] Re: reap ["Jason Brown" ] RE: S # C # A # R ["Bachman, Michael" ] daddy's in charge of the oyster party [ken ostrander ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [Rex ] Re: daddy's in charge of the oyster party ["m swedene" ] Re: S # C # A # R [Rex ] RE: reap ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: reap ["Jason Brown" ] Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: S # C # A # R [Benjamin Lukoff ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:52:32 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Robyn stuff (mostly) Things I just noticed: - -My Bonus Tracks for SFD&T finally appeared in my YepRoc Stash. Hey, 100% mandolinny, even the live Scott track... wasn't expecting that! - -The LA venue for the tour got filled in when I wasn't looking... Spaceland. Sweet. I can walk to that shit from my house. - -The LA Times TV column to which I referred earlier today isn't called Channel Island (although I swear something is called that)... it's called Show Tracker. But the best thing I discovered in the LA Times today was... they don't carry "Mallard Fillmore" any more. Or maybe the writer's on some kind of drunken gheybashing bender with Anne Coulter and forgot to keep drawing new strips. Either way, LA wins! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:56:45 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On Mar 7, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Rex wrote: > But the best thing I discovered in the LA Times today was... > they don't carry "Mallard Fillmore" any more. Or maybe the > writer's on some > kind of drunken gheybashing bender with Anne Coulter and forgot to > keep > drawing new strips. Either way, LA wins! Excellent! There have been a rash of letters to the SJ Mercury News recently asking that they drop it as well. It's easy to say it's not funny, because it's not, but it's also fairly mean spirited. They should just replace it with Zippy and be done with it. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:22:34 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Tom Clark wrote: > On Mar 7, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Rex wrote: > > > But the best thing I discovered in the LA Times today was... they > > don't carry "Mallard Fillmore" any more. Or maybe the writer's on > > some kind of drunken gheybashing bender with Anne Coulter and forgot > > to keep drawing new strips. Either way, LA wins! > > Excellent! There have been a rash of letters to the SJ Mercury News > recently asking that they drop it as well. It's easy to say it's not > funny, because it's not, but it's also fairly mean spirited. They > should just replace it with Zippy and be done with it. That strip really is pretty unfunny--but don't you want to see how the other half thinks? Honestly, MOST of today's strips are pretty unfunny. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:43:26 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On 3/7/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Tom Clark wrote: > > > On Mar 7, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Rex wrote: > > > > > But the best thing I discovered in the LA Times today was... they > > > don't carry "Mallard Fillmore" any more. Or maybe the writer's on > > > some kind of drunken gheybashing bender with Anne Coulter and forgot > > > to keep drawing new strips. Either way, LA wins! That strip really is pretty unfunny--but don't you want to see how the > other half thinks? Honestly, MOST of today's strips are pretty unfunny. True - but MF doesn't even try, half the time. Take one duck, add FOX talking point, stir in dopey librul stereotype with tincture of outrage, barf up on the page. See, I don't even think it's supposed to be funny - it's more like backslapping. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:22:20 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: S # C # A # R *i* care! <(The only shows I watch anymore are BSG, The Wire, Rome, Deadwood, Sopranos, Entourage, Real Time with Bill Maher, Dexter, The Shield, and Survivor.)> coincidentally (or not???), just received season two of *Entourage* from the library earlier this week...and ended up watching the entire season in two days' time! shit-howdy!, but that's some great teevee. not sure it's quite as good as season one, but it's right up there. have kevin dillon and/or jeremy piven been emmy-nominated for this shit? and, re rex's question whether a show's creators ever planned out an entire series-run in advance: perhaps, considering that *Entourage* is apparently based on mark wahlberg's career, they did with this. (although, looking at wahlberg's filmography, i don't see anything so early in his career that would correspond to *Aquaman*, so it may be farily *loosely* based upon his career.) huhn. wonder how interesting it would be if mike leigh were to create a teevee series? not really a fan of either artist; but since all y'all keep going on about it, figured i should at least download it and see what all the fuss is about. and, it's pretty damned good! i'd even go so far as to say that i prefer both "Cinammon Girl" and "The Kids Are All Right" to the originals. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:55:05 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Youth Decay forgotta respond to this: <> well, of course it wasn't *only* that fegs had recommended it that led me to check it out, but *also* that it was said that there are many fuck-bombs in it. which there are. but (and don't unzip your colostomy bags when i say this) i quite dislike the show's cursing. partly it seems anachronistic. (probably it *isn't* -- but it somehow feels as though it is.) but mainly i think it's that the writers don't know where in the sentence to *put* the fuck-bombs. wouldn't necessarily have guessed that it would matter one way or t'other. but *Deadwood* is living proof that it *does* matter. by the way, has been very good of late. may even have become my favourite blog. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:03:10 -0800 From: "Jon Studyvin" Subject: Re: Robyn makes another list... But personally I like Iggy in a meltdown. He is, after all, the Kirk to Bowie's Spock. That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:00:59 -0800 (PST) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: interim report from the broomewars truth commission now available >np. the new Stooges record. Certainly no less than interesting... maybe really good... >>>Hmmm, I still don't own Raw Power. I've been waiting for a double disc reissue like the first two Stooges albums got. I did get an 8 track version of The Stooges first album back in 1969 though. Although the MC5 were much more popular back then in Metro Detroit. I am guessing at this, but the Stooges have probably pretty much ecsliped the MC5 as far as legendary status goes these days. Having John Cale produce your first album certainly doesn't hurt. <<< >>Iggy's solo career. As does Iggy not being dead. Croakign only really works as a career move if your already famous, with the rare exception beingwhen those around you keep plugging along in your absense in spite of your death (Ian Curtis) or someone decides to make a nice Volkswagen commercial 30 years later (Nick Drake). << cale also produced the drake. and 'bryter layter' might be the best of the three. i wonder about the dead cult legend myth. though most people still don't know his name, ian curtis has his own mythology outside of the new order. a noose and a block of ice requires visionary dedication to your career. certainly the triumverate of rock martyrs (janis, jim, and jimi) all went at the height of their fame if not glory. hey hey my my, what's the best way for a star to die? i don't know about all of the needles and guns and crashes...jeff buckley waded off into the murky mississippi in a drunken stupor. i got to see the stooges play in boston when they first got back together in the naughties and it was awesome to behold. the fire was undeniable and the sound was furious. the new album seems to capture some of that energy. the guitarwork is fabulously filthy; but sometimes it seems like iggy's making the words up as he goes along. while i was checking out 'the weirdness' this morning little shuggie came and pulled her own stooge move by dribbling her orange juice down her shirt (to get my attention i'm sure). she too is freaky and free in the u.s.a. >> > Although I certainly have heard of "Crime and > the City Solution". Way cool inclusion of CATCS by Wim Wenders in one of > my top 25 movies of all time, "Wings of Desire". Yeah, I agree about the music, although I don't really agree about the movie. It's always been a mystery to me why so many people in the US love it so much. It has its moments, and I think it's Wenders' best movie, but there are also quite a few embarrassing elements: Peter Handke's poem at the beginning and the awful monologue at the end, for instance. << maybe because it seems so mysterious and otherworldly, especially in comparison to the bright and cheery 'city of angels'. it does have its clunky moments; but it is at once sad and sweet and funny. >Click and Clack (the "Car Talk" guys) did a bit on the show yesterday about how much more appreciative you were of music back in the days of the 8-track, as you never knew if it would be the last time you would hear the song. They gave the failure rate of 8-tracks as 50% and even funnier "per month."< i hated the way they would sometimes change tracks in the middle of a song. my parents had stacks and stacks of eight tracks. i don't remember losing a lot of them, though they all did eventually disappear. i think my mom just got sick of looking at them, like the boxes of comic books she would always threaten to discard. >Who the fuck buys a Hummer anyway? Why would you want a car that says precisely how much of an asshole you are?< http://youtube.com/watch?v=uY67cYJDc9s ken "i can't see ya, but I know you're here" the kenster - --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 00:05:44 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: reap On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Jason Brown wrote: > Captain America > http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117960670.html?categoryid=13&cs=1 And yet nothing in the article on the circumstances of his death or the (ok, pretty obvious) symbolic meaning. Captain America is, of course, America-at-war personified. He has always represented the best of the American ideal and "why we fight". The story arc in Captain America for the past while involved the Captain going on ice while the USA made choices that he found conflicted with American values. So, he was shot by a sniper. Huh. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:03:22 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: S # C # A # R - --On 7. Mdrz 2007 18:22:20 -0800 Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > not really a fan of either artist; but since all y'all keep going on about > it, figured i should at least download it and see what all the fuss is > about. and, it's pretty damned good! i'd even go so far as to say that i > prefer both "Cinammon Girl" and "The Kids Are All Right" to the originals. I have yet to hear the original of "The Kids ...", but as for "Cinnamon Girl" you've got to be kidding! The cover is very nicely done, but Neil Young's version is one of my all-time faves. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:14:56 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap "Are You Being Served?"'s John Inman, 71 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:39:37 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On 3/7/07, 2fs wrote: > > > True - but MF doesn't even try, half the time. Take one duck, add FOX > talking point, stir in dopey librul stereotype with tincture of outrage, > barf up on the page. See, I don't even think it's supposed to be funny - > it's more like backslapping. Part of my problem with it is, oddly, really similar to my Family Guy problem... the "character" and "situation" exist only to set up-- and in the case of MF (heh) only barely-- dumb satire that would be better off without the distracting framing device (that is, a one-panel op-ed cartoon). Half the time it's just a mean parody with a mildly bemused-looking duck in the corner. It was after puzzling for months over what the duck was even supposed to be doing other than "hosting" bad poems about liberals is bad mmmkay, when finally a friend of mine told me that the duck was actually supposed to be a *reporter*, like the last honest, erm, duck in a liberal-nutball arena. And indeed, after that, I did notice that the duck was *occasionally* drawn wearing the retro-stereotypical journalist fedor-with-two-pieces-of-paper-stickinig-out-of-the-band-above-the-brim*, although he never once exhibited any journalistic behaviors, nor was he shown in a journalistc setting with coworkers, or anything of that nature. Complete fail. One could argue that Doonesbury and its ilk are equally more op-ed cartoons than starndard comics, but I don't think so. Everything in Doonesbury comes out of the characters and as part of a plot arc, even the stuff with the president and other real-life caricatures... nonethelesss, some papers do put Doonesbury on the op-ed page. MF doesn't even give you characters to grasp onto-- even the pretty lame Prickly City does that-- and it is, yes, mean-spirited to boot. And what the hell was up with last month's MF Howard Dean satire? Howard Dean? Smart money says Doonesbury doesn't have a "Bob Dole is old" joke up its sleeve any time soon, so what's up with MF doing Howard Dean, still? You couldn't help but look at that and think, what, are the current Democratic candidates so good that you can't think of anything bad to say about them? OR ARE YOU JUST DRUNK? Um... rant over. It's gone from my life. Yay. - -Rex *Say, where did this image start, and what are those two-- and it's always two-- pieces of paper supposed to be, anyway? Notes? The reporter is alway carrying a notepad, too, so... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:54:12 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On 3/8/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > i'd even go so far as to say that i > > prefer both "Cinammon Girl" and "The Kids Are All Right" to the > originals. > > I have yet to hear the original of "The Kids ...", but as for "Cinnamon > Girl" you've got to be kidding! The cover is very nicely done, but Neil > Young's version is one of my all-time faves. Around the time Under the Covers came out, someone blogged a collection of 13 covers of the "Cinnamon Girl"... I think combined with covers of it I already had, my iTunes now has like 20 or so versions along with numerous variants by Skakey hisself (one of the worst being the one from the best-known Neil tribute album, The Bridge, by Loop, whom I otherwise kind of liked). That may be more covers than I have of either "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" or "12XU", although it'd be close. My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:24:33 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: reap Capuchin says: > So, he was shot by a sniper. Does anyone have any thoughts on what was chosen as Captain America's cause of death? It seems a bit less obvious than e.g. suicide or choking on his own vomit. xo Lauren, wondering if "vomit" would still be a gross word if it didn't mean vomit P.S. I was watching some of "Spinal Tap" the other night. In case you were worried, it's *still* funny. The audio commentary is great as well. I just thought of the part where they describe the band member who choked on vomit that was not his own... - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > not really a fan of either artist; but since all y'all keep going on about > > it, figured i should at least download it and see what all the fuss is > > about. and, it's pretty damned good! i'd even go so far as to say that i > > prefer both "Cinammon Girl" and "The Kids Are All Right" to the originals. > > I have yet to hear the original of "The Kids ...", but as for "Cinnamon > Girl" you've got to be kidding! The cover is very nicely done, but Neil > Young's version is one of my all-time faves. You owe it to yourself to listen to the original version of "The Kids Are Alright" and any other classic Who tracks you've missed... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:01:52 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) Are you all still reading actual made from dead trees newspapers? How gouache! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:58:16 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Rex wrote: > *Say, where did this image start, and what are those two-- and it's always > two-- pieces of paper supposed to be, anyway? Notes? The reporter is alway > carrying a notepad, too, so... I think the paper is supposed to be a press pass, or some sort of ID card from the reporter's newspaper. It might just be one piece of paper folded over, or maybe the guy is supposed to have an ID card *and* a press pass to City Hall or wherever. Sometimes the artist will show "PRESS" written on the paper. Get Fuzzy is the salvation of the American comic strip. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:13:37 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: reap On 3/8/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Capuchin says: > > So, he was shot by a sniper. > > Does anyone have any thoughts on what was chosen as Captain America's > cause of death? It seems a bit less obvious than e.g. suicide or > choking on his own vomit. Having read the issue in question, I can say it was the only way that the Red Skull could get to him. From a storytelling perspective i think it was chosen becasue it helps the story leave about 3 different ways his death could be faked. Making way for Cap's inevitable return in a year or two. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:13:41 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: S # C # A # R Rex wrote: >My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. Revolver or Rubber Soul for me. It's a toss up. Never liked Abbey Road that much though, and Sgt. Pepper has lost a lot of it's charm for me over the years. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:11:08 -0800 (PST) From: ken ostrander Subject: daddy's in charge of the oyster party >(*Five* digests overnight? I mean, OK, it was Robyn's birthday, but still... )< and the pace continues. what is the record for most digests in one day? and what is the grace period for response to an old post? i'm still catching up. for now, i have another birthday celebration to prepare. ken "wait til you get older than this..." the kenster what does/did robyn do on his birthday? - --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: S # C # A # R On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Rex wrote: > >My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's > because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. > > Revolver or Rubber Soul for me. It's a toss up. Never liked Abbey Road > that much though, and Sgt. Pepper has lost a lot of it's charm for me > over the years. As it has for me--as for Revolver vs. Rubber Soul, I used to be firmly in the Revolver camp, but I've been coming around to Rubber Soul lately. It has its low points, but one reason I like it is because it is probably the pinnacle of the "old" Beatles style. (Revolver, with "Love You To," "She Said, She Said," "Tomorrow Never Knows," campy stuff like "Good Day Sunshine," and stylized stuff like "For No One," "Eleanor Rigby," and "Here, There, and Everywhere," is GREAT, but it's not traditional at all. Whereas on Rubber Soul you've got relatively straightforward stuff like "Drive My Car," "The Word," and "Wait," gems like "In My Life," songs like "Nowhere Man" and "Norwegian Wood" that still fall on the Paperback Writer side of the Paperback Writer/Rain divide. So I guess I'm saying I really like Rubber Soul. Or maybe I just really like "Drive My Car" segueing into "Norwegian Wood." (I've had just about enough of "You Won't See Me," though.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:21:57 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On 3/8/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > Are you all still reading actual made from dead trees newspapers? How > gouache! Vanishing cultural institutions kind of fascinate me, newspaper stuff in particular for some reason. Dunno... old soul syndrome? Village Green Preservation Envy? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:24:29 -0500 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: daddy's in charge of the oyster party On his 40th he opened for the Barenaked Ladies in Buffalo, NY. Mike "who lost his tape of that show and kicks himself about it often" On 3/8/07, ken ostrander wrote: > >(*Five* digests overnight? I mean, OK, it was Robyn's birthday, but still... )< > > > and the pace continues. what is the record for most digests in one day? and what is the grace period for response to an old post? > > > i'm still catching up. for now, i have another birthday celebration to prepare. > > > > ken "wait til you get older than this..." the kenster > > > > what does/did robyn do on his birthday? > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:24:43 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: reap On 3/8/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > Having read the issue in question, I can say it was the only way that > the Red Skull could get to him. From a storytelling perspective i > think it was chosen becasue it helps the story leave about 3 different > ways his death could be faked. Making way for Cap's inevitable return > in a year or two. Did Captain America pass on his mantle to other people, briefly? Or am I thinking of Iron Man or Green Lantern? ISTR a black Captain America, but maybe that was a What If? or somethin'. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:31:48 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On 3/8/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > Rex wrote: > > >My favorite on the album is "And Your Bird Can Sing", but that's > > because Revolver is the best Beatles album evar. > > > > Revolver or Rubber Soul for me. It's a toss up. Never liked Abbey Road > > that much though, and Sgt. Pepper has lost a lot of it's charm for me > > over the years. It did for me, too, but then it mysteriously regained almost all of it. Probably because I laid off of the record for a loooong time, and then suddenly it sounded great again, especially the less-overplayed stuff. But really, Rubber Soul or Revolver, that is the question. I can never quite throw my lot in with the White Album, excellent though it is, and I'm just not totally down with the big logjam suite on Abbey Road... never have been... but the songs that are by themselves are among my individual favorites. All academic, of course, as each of those records tower above almost everything else and we all know it, even when we pretend to be too cool to admit it. Nothing wrong with "You Won't See Me" in my book. I'm not as keen on "Girl", though. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:32:15 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: reap On 3/8/07, Jason Brown wrote: >> >> Having read the issue in question, I can say it was the only way that >> the Red Skull could get to him. From a storytelling perspective i >> think it was chosen becasue it helps the story leave about 3 different >> ways his death could be faked. Making way for Cap's inevitable return >> in a year or two. Rex: >Did Captain America pass on his mantle to other people, briefly? Or am I thinking of Iron Man or Green >Lantern? ISTR a black Captain America, but maybe that was a What If? or somethin'. You guys have lost me. I thought Captain America died along with Billy at the end of Easy Rider. MJ "All he wanted was to be free, and that's the way it turned out to be" Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:35:58 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: reap On 3/8/07, Rex wrote: > On 3/8/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > Having read the issue in question, I can say it was the only way that > > the Red Skull could get to him. From a storytelling perspective i > > think it was chosen becasue it helps the story leave about 3 different > > ways his death could be faked. Making way for Cap's inevitable return > > in a year or two. > > Did Captain America pass on his mantle to other people, briefly? Or am I > thinking of Iron Man or Green Lantern? ISTR a black Captain America, but > maybe that was a What If? or somethin'. Captain America has passed on his mantle several times. Back in the seventies he quit and was replaced by some dude named Roscoe who was later murdered by the Red Skull. In the eighties (concurrent with Iran-Contra), Cap quit in disgust over the White House being corrupted by the Secret Serpent Society and was replaced by a guy who now works under the name U.S. Agent. The black Captain America was a recent story that showed that true original Captain America was a black guy that was given powers in a Tuskegee style beta test. Iron Man has been passed around a few times since its just a suit of armor. and the Green Lantern is a police force so there have been hundereds of green Lanterns. - -Jason, King of Nerds ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:37:11 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Robyn stuff (mostly) On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Rex wrote: > On 3/8/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > > > Are you all still reading actual made from dead trees newspapers? How > > gouache! > > > Vanishing cultural institutions kind of fascinate me, newspaper stuff in > particular for some reason. Dunno... old soul syndrome? Village Green > Preservation Envy? C'mon Jason--you never pick up the Stranger or the Weekly at the bus stop, or grab a P-I out of the recycling at Burgermaster? :) I do have to say, I almost never PAY for a dead-tree newspaper anymore..haven't done that regularly since I lived in London in 1999-2000. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: S # C # A # R On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Rex wrote: > > > that much though, and Sgt. Pepper has lost a lot of it's charm for me > > > over the years. > > It did for me, too, but then it mysteriously regained almost all of it. > Probably because I laid off of the record for a loooong time, and then > suddenly it sounded great again, especially the less-overplayed stuff. I can never get enough of "Getting Better." > But really, Rubber Soul or Revolver, that is the question. I can never > quite throw my lot in with the White Album, excellent though it is, and I'm > just not totally down with the big logjam suite on Abbey Road... never have > been... but the songs that are by themselves are among my individual > favorites. All academic, of course, as each of those records tower above > almost everything else and we all know it, even when we pretend to be too > cool to admit it. The only reason I don't fill my top ten lists with the Beatles catalog and the Beatles catalog only is because that would be really boring. As for Abbey Road--GREAT stuff there, but WTF is up with "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?? > Nothing wrong with "You Won't See Me" in my book. I'm not as keen on > "Girl", though. Does anyone else hear a gradual slowing of the tempo in YWSM? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #91 *******************************