From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #84 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 5 2007 Volume 16 : Number 084 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available ["L] Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available [2f] Sarah Silverman ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available [Re] RE: Sarah Silverman [tanter ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Movie Talk [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [Rex ] RE: Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters ["Bachman, Michael"] Re: Movie Talk [Rex ] Re: Sarah Silverman ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Movie Talk [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Sarah Silverman [2fs ] RE: Movie Talk ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [Rex ] Re: Movie Talk [Rex ] Monkees/Rolf/Crimso/Musical bulldozers/Wenders [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:29:33 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available Hi Fegs, MJ Bachman writes: > I did get an 8 track > version of The Stooges first album back in 1969 though. This is just cool beyond words. Click and Clack (the "Car Talk" guys) did a bit on the show yesterday about how much more appreciative you were of music back in the days of the 8-track, as you never knew if it would be the last time you would hear the song. They gave the failure rate of 8-tracks as 50% and even funnier "per month." My Dad brought up Iggy Pop in conversation the other night. That's just Not Right. But he *is* the one who informed me that Jerry Garcia had died so I can't deny that occasionally he's got his finger on the pulse. I don't know where he gets this stuff - 80% of what he reads is Thomas Pynchon, French history, or The New York Review of Books. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:36:37 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available On 3/5/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > My Dad brought up Iggy Pop in conversation the other night. That's > just Not Right. But he *is* the one who informed me that Jerry Garcia > had died so I can't deny that occasionally he's got his finger on the > pulse. I don't know where he gets this stuff - 80% of what he reads > is Thomas Pynchon, French history, or The New York Review of Books. Well that sounds pretty cool to me. Pynchon, you know, might be physically reclusive, but not culturally: he actually wrote the liner notes for then-somewhat-buzzed-about NYC band Lotion several years back. (I liked them pretty well - though it always seemed as if they had a much better album in them. Not sure what, if anything, the band members are up to these days.) And of course there's Pynchon's two voice appearances on _The Simpsons_... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:37:22 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Sarah Silverman Really all I know about her is from a short interview in Rolling Stone about 1.5 years ago (she is quite the potty mouth.) She said something that I found so amusing that I think of it probably several times a week. She was talking about the comedian who she was dating, and the interview asked something about how she found dating another comedian and she said: "A comedian not dating another comedian? That would be like a gay guy not dating another gay guy." ...or something like that. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:44:07 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available On 3/5/07, 2fs wrote: > > Pynchon, you know, might be physically reclusive, but not culturally: he > actually wrote the liner notes for then-somewhat-buzzed-about NYC band > Lotion several years back. I'm still making my way through "Against the Day"-- literature moves much more slowly with lots of kids and pneumonia-- but I'm very much enjoying the stroll, deciding to work it all out by ruminating on it when it's over. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:47:58 -0600 From: tanter Subject: RE: Sarah Silverman I've watched her show and I don't find her funny at all. She reminds me of the guys in my 11th grade English class who kept making inappropriate noises to try to throw the teacher off guard. They weren't funny, they were just annoying but they found themselves so funny that they set each other off into fits of laughter they couldn't control. Punishment was useless, they just fed off each other. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:53:41 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog Rex wrote: >>On 3/4/07, Miles Goosens wrote: >> >> > >And to tie this to David Lynch, I had a dream last year where I was > >backstage at a Styx concert, and they turned out to be nice guys, but > >every one of them was a midget. They used trick stage mirrors to > >appear to be average-sized humans. >That dream is cool enough to be Robyn betweeen-song banter. ...I thought that too! (except in Robyn's version, Tommy Shaw would probably suddenly grow to skyscaper height and start thrashing about, squishing the remaining Styx-sters like so many squirming worms...) (come to think of it, as long as it results in the obliteration of Dennis DeYoung, I can really get behind something like that!) ...and: >I don't think I can be held accountable for self-mythologizing in my >dreams, ...Sure, Rex -- as if we are to believe that your dreams are all about YOU - -- whatta flailing self-obsessive! Michael "Fraudian" (oops -- was that a slip?) Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. 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Why would you want a car that says precisely how much of an asshole you are? - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:56:17 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ wears a mullet On 3/5/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > 2fs says: > > I think that it's trying to present a fairly complex > > political viewpoint for an action show with a goofy concept and a rather > > cavalier regard for realism. > > If Mr. Bauer doesn't get a nap in soon, I am going to start to think > that show is just not very realistic. My LA friends are nearly in hysterics at how they're always able to get from place to place nearly instantaneously... At least this season they've got an excuse: well no one's driving on accounta NUCULAR BOMB! > P.S. That show is such a guy show...all the ads are for dumb guy > stuff like cars. Last week I saw a Victoria's Secret ad and I thought > they were expanding their target audience, but d'oh, then I realized > that is for guys too. It's a boys club! Anyway, I know at least three women who like it, so... Uh, I don't know what that means. P.P.P.S. Who the fuck buys a Hummer anyway? Why would you want a car > that says precisely how much of an asshole you are? That last is known as a self-answering question. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:57:50 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! - --On 4. Mdrz 2007 22:41:40 -0800 Stacked Crooked wrote: > <<28) Yo La Tengo, I Am Not Afraid of You and I Will Beat Your Ass>> > > I take it you like them in general, but not this one? I really wonder > why.> > > he had it ranked much higher than i did, though i consider it a good > record -- but wholly on the quality of the two long songs ("Pass The > Hatchet" and "Story Of Yo La Tengo"). > everything else is very boring. I agree on the first one, but the second one is actually a little boring to *me*. But what about such gems as "I Should Have Known Better" or "Watch Out For Me Ronnie"? Boring? Let me reiterate: WTF!?? Those songs just *rawked* live. > for $1.99 an episode, though I think you can get a discount if you buy the > whole season at once.> > > or you can download each episode for free from usenet To borrow a slogan: tvtorrents.com - and you're done. > was crushed to learn that they aren't making another full season.> Same here. All things considered I think "The Wire" is the "better" series, because it's more "important", but Deadwood is more fun. I only watched the pilot for "Rome" and was underwhelmed. What do you guys like about it? > i got *Deadwood* season one from the library on recommendation from this > board, and thought it was complete and utter shit. You're weird or crazy or both ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:08:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! - --On 5. Mdrz 2007 04:51:16 -0800 Capuchin wrote: > Buffy must be taken as a piece (preferably with Angel, the last episode > of which is so good that the other 109 episodes could have been half as > good and still would be required viewing just to give the context for > that final forty minutes). There are almost a dozen perfect episodes > (Prophecy Girl, Innocence, Lover's Walk, The Zeppo, Hush, Restless, The > Body, Once More With Feeling, Selfless, Conversations With Dead People) > and many others that have transcendent moments (though much of this has > to be appreciated in retrospect -- Prophecy Girl was just as crappy as > the rest of the first season the first time I watched it). In addition > to being a wonderful little allegory about teen life (where the dangers > of the world are represented by real demons and high school is literally > the gate to Hell), the over-arching story is about how anarchic > collectives are the only force of good against the evil of imposed > authority. Word! > Gilmore Girls is pap from what I've seen. I haven't read anything to > convince me to give it a real shot, though. It's certainly become rather trite, but there were times when it was quite enjoyable. I'm only still watching it out of loyalty. (It still can have its cool moments: a few episodes back Lane proclaimed that Art Brut's "We Formed A Band" should become the US' new national anthem) > Family Guy is genius, of course. Eh, no. No comedy show *really* floats my boat. I'm more of a drama guy, but I'd pick the Simpsons, Futurama, HIMYM, Malcolm In The Middle and probably some others over Family Guy anyway. > I watched the first two seasons of Battlestar Galactica and thought it > was kind of half-assed. They took everything they know about > cinematography from Firefly and removed all of the charm by trying way > harder. The story wanders and the characters act irrationally almost all > the time. There is no coherence. There is only this ragtag fugitive > fleet of episodes on a lonely quest for a shining planet known as > Narrative. I agree. It's not as good as many people seem to think it is, but for me it fills the sci-fi void. Recently I discovered two great Canadian series: ReGenesis and Intelligence. And then there's a great BBC series that the Americans seem to be bent on ruining by re-making it: Life On Mars. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:18:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! - --On 5. Mdrz 2007 10:16:35 -0500 Christopher Gross wrote: > As far as Angel goes, I love the final episode, but season 5 as a whole > doesn't thrill me as much as it seems to thrill most fans. (I've just > been rewatching it recently.) On the whole season 3 is probably my > favorite. It's angsterrific! I've watched Buffy more than twice (i.e. all episodes at least twice, others more often) and Angel only once so far. So my judgment isn't as weighed as with Buffy, but in my mind the series got better by the seasons. There were longish periods and arcs that I didn't really care for, but every second with Amy Acker onscreen makes up for that :-) >> others that have transcendent moments (though much of this has to be >> appreciated in retrospect -- Prophecy Girl was just as crappy as the rest >> of the first season the first time I watched it). > > I don't recall how well I liked Prophecy Girl when I first saw it, I do! It made me go on. See, I got to the Whedonverse from the wrong end. I watched "Firefly" *first*. When I enjoyed that very much I thought I should give Buffy a chance, even though the title was so ridiculous and I'd seen an episode on German TV (dubbed, of course) that didn't make it look as though it was something I might enjoy. So I bought the first season. Had it not been for "Prophecy Girl", I don't think I would've bought the other seasons :-) > but > it's possibly my favorite single episode now. Forget the super-cheesy > demon and occasional plot holes: emotionally, it's brilliant. Absolutely. It's not my favorite, though. >> Family Guy is genius, of course. It's daring and hilarious and points >> out all the right weaknesses in popular conceptions. > > Am I the only person in the English-speaking world who neither loves nor > hates Family Guy, but just kinda mildly likes it? I'm not actually in the English-speaking world (although at times it seems that way), but I agree with you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:30:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: TVManiax! - --On 4. Mdrz 2007 20:54:11 -0500 Christopher Gross wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Miles Goosens wrote: > >> I have yet to watch any of THE WIRE - I think it's my next "catch up >> with on DVD" project > > Definitely recommended. If you find it tough going at first, give it a > chance for at least half a season. It's not like any other cop show out > there (not that I'm an expert). Right. It's the only show I haven't been able to convince any of my friends to, because even though they have studied English as well they just don't understand a word. It's tough for me as well, but I find that after persevering for an episode or so I get into the flow of it. The Shield is great as well, but in a different way. To me The Wire is like a documentary. And the characters are just unforgettable. >> I watch both of those, and love ROME. It's sorta an A-/B+ on the >> writing instead of the A+ of DEADWOOD, but the acting is so delicious >> that it actually elevates the show. > > Agreed that Deadwood is even better than Rome (and equal to The Wire). I > was crushed to learn that they aren't making another full season. Yeah, well, the reason is that they want David Milch to develop a *new* series, so maybe it's all for the best :-) >> VERONICA MARS I'm a lot more iffy about: the first season was highly >> enjoyable to me; Season 2 was somewhat less nifty (most of my > > And agreed once more (I could probably reduce this whole post to "me too") > -- Veronica Mars has gone downhill since season 1. I'm not so sure ... it has changed a lot, but I couldn't really say that it has deteriorated. To me it feels more like a lateral move. > At first I attributed > this to my own viewing conditions: I saw all of season 1 in a single > feverish week of BitTorrenting, so it was tough to go back to watching one > a week with the new episodes. But even allowing for that, this season > just isn't as satisfying. I think part of the problem was their decision > to have multiple short story arcs, which might have sounded good on paper > but has lead to some pretty abrupt story resolutions (especially for the > latest one). That's true, but who cares about the crimes? ;-) > And Logan has become a problem. They clearly don't know > what to do with him right now. I think they should just bite the bullet > and keep him offscreen until they have a good story for him, like they're > already doing with Wallace. Which is a pity. > But still, despite my growing disappointment > with the show, I love Veronica and Keith too much to miss a single > episode. The show will have to get a *lot* worse to break my addiction. I agree. You know, maybe it *is* true that the first season was better after all, but bad VM is better than no VM :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:34:52 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Movie Talk - --On 4. Mdrz 2007 15:29:57 -0500 Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Sebastian Hagedorn says: >> True, though season 5 is the best in my mind. Yet my appreciation of Star >> Trek has diminished a great deal ever since I discovered those >> movie-styled series that abound these days. Idea-wise there may be few >> that actually rival (good) Star Trek - let's not forget the croakers >> that went along with it, but regarding camera mobility and overall >> cinematic atmosphere not even the latest Trek series approached the >> level that other series had by that time reached. > > Which other series are you thinking of? Most of them have been mentioned by now. There's also "Heroes" and "Prison Break", but you can't really compare those to Trek. > I think Season 5 of Star Trek: TNG was after Gene Roddenberry died and > I had remembered that people thought the series went a bit downhill > afterwards. I don't remember enough of the episodes to have an > opinion about it but I'll be going on to renting Seasons 4 and 5 > eventually. I've bought them all (they were the first series I got on DVD), but it's been a while that I've seen them. So I only have vague recollections of the seasons as well. > As far as the evolution of Star Trek, I tend not to care about whether > the computers look metal or cardboard. Even though I grew up with TOS, I just can't watch that anymore. It's just camp to me now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:36:38 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 3/5/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > ...Sure, Rex -- as if we are to believe that your dreams are all about YOU > -- whatta flailing self-obsessive! Well, some of them are about other people, most recently Jeff Goldblum, or my high school marching band instructor... but God knows I'm usually the most (unfortunately) fully-developed character. It would probably be better if I could just turn into Mike Mills, like Miles can. Well, not Mike Mills in particular of course, but someone like him... wait wait wait, not even someone like him, but... aw, hell, where's Nikki Sixx when you need him? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:41:10 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:31 PM To: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters On 3/4/07, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: >> >> Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder will >> induct R.E.M. Rex threw up in response: >Barf. Why not Mitch Easter or Don Dixon? Patti Smith will be inducted by reclusive Rage Against The Machine vocalist >> Zach de la Rocha. Rex projectile hurled up in response: >Superbarf. Tom Verlaine, David Byrne, Debbie Harry, the bartender at CBGB's, all would have been better choices. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:51:05 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Movie Talk On 3/5/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Even though I grew up with TOS, I just can't watch that anymore. It's just > camp to me now. Full disclosure, the only TV I bother to UTube is what I hear are the choice bits on TDS and Colbert, and... the weekly fx reels of the new opticals being created for the re-mastered TOS. Just 'cuz the Enterprise still looks neat. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:52:30 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Sarah Silverman On 3/5/07, tanter wrote: > I've watched her show and I don't find her funny at all. She reminds me > of > the guys in my 11th grade English class who kept making inappropriate > noises > to try to throw the teacher off guard. I think she gives female comedians a bad rep. It's been hard enough for funny women toconvince the entertainment industry that they should be taken...um... seriously. I want to say to her- Look, honey, if the only way you can get laughs is by being "naughty", maybe you should rethink this whole comedy thing. I'm also convinced that the only reason she's ever been given stage time is that she's hot. A woman I went to college with is currently exploiting her looks to get noticed as a comedian, and her comedy has suffered _greatly_ as a result. She has gotten on Leno, though, so apparently it's been a successful gambit, for some value of "successful." Sort of a pyrrhic victory, I think, but then what do I know? I'm just a girl. V. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:53:32 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Movie Talk - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 5. Mdrz 2007 13:51:05 -0800 regarding Re: Movie Talk: > On 3/5/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> >> Even though I grew up with TOS, I just can't watch that anymore. It's >> just camp to me now. > > > Full disclosure, the only TV I bother to UTube is what I hear are the > choice > bits on TDS and Colbert, and... the weekly fx reels of the new opticals > being created for the re-mastered TOS. I've only read about that. What exactly are they doing? Is it like the new versions of Star Wars or less intrusive? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:57:13 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 3/5/07, Rex wrote: > > Well, some of them are about other people, most recently Jeff Goldblum, or > my high school marching band instructor... Well for god's sake tell us about *these* dreams! Especially the Jeff Goldblum one... Speaking of dreams, I was just listening to She's an Angel (TMBG), and I'm pretty sure the lyrics are based on a dream one of the Johns had. V. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:58:03 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Sarah Silverman On 3/5/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > On 3/5/07, tanter wrote: > > > I've watched her show and I don't find her funny at all. She reminds me > > of > > the guys in my 11th grade English class who kept making inappropriate > > noises > > to try to throw the teacher off guard. > > > I think she gives female comedians a bad rep. It's been hard enough for > funny women toconvince the entertainment industry that they should be > taken...um... seriously. I want to say to her- Look, honey, if the only > way > you can get laughs is by being "naughty", maybe you should rethink this > whole comedy thing. I'm also convinced that the only reason she's ever > been > given stage time is that she's hot. I don't really know Silverman's work - but certainly there are plenty of unfunny male comedians who try to overcome that by being loud or gross or full of fucks and shits. Don't know about the looks thing - but I don't doubt it plays in at times. You're probably right, though, that it's more of a factor (and maybe more of a novelty) with a female comedian - esp. if she's also foulmouthed. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:07:31 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Movie Talk Lauren wrote: >> As far as the evolution of Star Trek, I tend not to care about whether >> the computers look metal or cardboard. Sebastian cam back with: >Even though I grew up with TOS, I just can't watch that anymore. It's just camp to me now. I think a number of the episodes hold up from TOS for me. "City on The Edge of Forever", "The Trouble With Tribbles" and "Amok Time" and the one with the over populated planet to name a few. Like Lauren mentioned, the computers can be made of cardboard, or the town may only be half constructed, but it's the story line that counts. Granted there are a lot of campy episodes though. Some of the campy ones can be funny though, "Piece Of The Action" and the second one with Harcourt Fenton Mudd are good for some yukes. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:13:30 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 3/5/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > On 3/5/07, Rex wrote: > > > > > Well, some of them are about other people, most recently Jeff Goldblum, > > or > > my high school marching band instructor... > > > Well for god's sake tell us about *these* dreams! Especially the Jeff > Goldblum one... > All I recall is Goldblum and a treehouse. Sorry, no midgets... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:22:10 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Movie Talk > Sebastian: > I've only read about that. What exactly are they doing? Is it like the new > versions of Star Wars or less intrusive? I've only seen the fx reels, which you should be able to find on YouTube, but basically they seem to be only replacing the opticals, even slaving those to the old sound cues and shot lengths, and very rarely messing with the opticals in the live action shots. I do kinda want to see a whole episode to see if the new shots stick out like sore thumbs, but haven't bothered yet... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:32:28 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Monkees/Rolf/Crimso/Musical bulldozers/Wenders >>Okay, I recently got hold of a copy of Harry Nilsson's version of "Cuddly >>Toy" - which I knew, as a kid, in the version by the Monkees. >> >>And you know what? Those lyrics are kinda dirty. >> >>Never noticed that as a kid though... > >The song seems rather racy for the Monkees to cover (admittedly I am >comparing it to only to the few radio-popular Monkees songs which I >know.) Fuff. Next you'll be saying you didn't know what the Monkees' song "Star collector" was about, either! > > ... an album by Rolf Harris called "Sun Arise." > >"spreadin' all de light all arououououououououououound" >(in a fake didge stylee) That is one weird song, in that much maligned genre "faux Aborigine psychedelia". Apparently, in his many shelves of unreleased material, Brian Eno has a cover he made of this track which I, for one, would love to hear. > > On that prog list: I have owned exactly two of them, IN THE COURT OF > > THE CRIMSON KING and 2112. I couldn't stand either one, though I'm > > fond of Crimson in general. > > > >Except for one or two tracks ("Schizoid Man" and that huge mellotron >instrumental), that's not my favorite Crimson album: insofar as it's closer >to Moody Blues territory (even though I can sometimes appreciate *them* as a >good pop act, when their ambitions werent' carrying them away). Never could >stand Greg Lake's voice. Tying back into the women in prog thread, the demo version of "I talk to the wind" with Judy Dyble sharing vocal duties kicks the released version out the door. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. >Like a fucking bulldozer set to music. Reminds me of two of the best one-liners in reviews I've ever read: "Shihad's music sways like a container crane in a hurricane" and "Imagine standing five feet from the rail tracks as an express thunders past - that is what Midnight Oil is like live." >Never even heard of them! Although I certainly have heard of "Crime >and the City Solution". Way cool inclusion of CATCS by Wim Wenders >in one of my top 25 movies of all time, "Wings of Desire". Mine too - possibly in my top half a dozen, in fact. CatCS were, IIRC, a side project by various members of the Bad Seeds and ex-Birthday Party people, and also featured on the Wim Wenders movie (okay, but should have been two movies...) "Until the End of the world". James (*Five* digests overnight? I mean, OK, it was Robyn's birthday, but still... ) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #84 *******************************