From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #83 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 5 2007 Volume 16 : Number 083 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [Rex ] Re: wandering what my parents thought ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available [Re] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] Re: Movie Talk [Rex ] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available ["] Re: Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] Re: today's headling: Dwarf to Fegs: "I pulled Nikki Sixx out of my ass" [Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On 3/5/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Capuchin wrote: > > > Buffy must be taken as a piece (preferably with Angel, the last episode > of > > which is so good that the other 109 episodes could have been half as > good > > and still would be required viewing just to give the context for that > > final forty minutes). There are almost a dozen perfect episodes > (Prophecy > > Girl, Innocence, Lover's Walk, The Zeppo, Hush, Restless, The Body, Once > > More With Feeling, Selfless, Conversations With Dead People) > > Now, I don't want to start an extended Buffy discussion. Yes, you do. Anyway, it's this kind of discussion that reveals the shallowness of my geekiness: I recognize only a handful of episode titles. True, if you were to have said, "that one where the principal turns into a giant snake" or something, I'd probably recognize most of them. As far as Angel goes, I love the final episode, but season 5 as a whole > doesn't thrill me as much as it seems to thrill most fans. (I've just > been rewatching it recently.) On the whole season 3 is probably my > favorite. It's angsterrific! Currently being re-watched over at the 2fs household. > > Hell), the over-arching story is about how anarchic collectives are the > > only force of good against the evil of imposed authority. > > Hmmm.... You could actually make a good argument for that. I don't think > the show's creators had a political message in mind, of course. They > approached it strictly from a personal angle. The heart of the show is > Buffy's personal journey to maturity and the "created family" she formed > with her friends, so outside authority figures were natural and inevitable > antagonists. That's true - but "anarchic collective" is pretty much a translation into the political of "created family." I don't think Whedon et al. would reject the more political reading - certainly, the notion of what one has to do to get along in the world focuses more on personal and emotional issues in the show - but I think one point of any radical political view I'd even consider sympathizing with is the recognition that those things are intimately connected with the extent we feel our lives are ours to give meaning to, as opposed to having no control, being cog in machine, etc etc etc. Actually, I think the antagonists in Buffy were quite as often the characters themselves and their limitations and preconceptions: literally in some cases, symbolically in others. But that's true of political situations as well: learned helplessness is a powerful enemy. At their best, Buffy (and Angel particularly) were astonishingly good at examining some fairly heavy-duty moral and ethical questions through the unlikely lens of various genre tropes. Even that approach could have fallen dead-flat if it weren't for the fact that even at both shows' darkest (which was pretty dark), they were still damned funny. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:22:56 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 3/4/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > And to tie this to David Lynch, I had a dream last year where I was > backstage at a Styx concert, and they turned out to be nice guys, but > every one of them was a midget. They used trick stage mirrors to > appear to be average-sized humans. That dream is cool enough to be Robyn betweeen-song banter. It was more fun when I dreamed I was Mike Mills and Stipe and Buck > tried to replace me with Flea, right in the middle of an REM show. I'm gonna have to chew on that one for a while, though. I did have a dream once that Sonic Youth was playing at my friend's house and Thurston Moore hopped offstage-- well, there was no stage, but he left the performance area midsong-- to tie my shoes. Yes, both of them. I don't think I can be held accountable for self-mythologizing in my dreams, though-- there's really nobody else around to mythologize. - -Rex - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:24:15 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: wandering what my parents thought On 3/3/07, 2fs wrote: > Okay, I recently got hold of a copy of Harry Nilsson's version of "Cuddly > Toy" - which I knew, as a kid, in the version by the Monkees. > > And you know what? Those lyrics are kinda dirty. > > Never noticed that as a kid though... Boy, I sure did. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:28:36 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: women in progness, lucifer in frognal On 3/4/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > two or three masturpieces each? That seem kind of endemic to the > genre.<<< > > i prefer it that way. otherwise, how would we learn about new bands to > check out? and even with such "generousity" they still had lots of > omissions. love your freudian typo, by the way. That was no typo, that was my wife! > >>>genre is the crutch of the lazy critic, who is all about genre and name > dropping. <<< > > for me these can be helpful as descriptions; but not when they are used > dismissively. i'd rather hear for myself when someone poo-poo's something > outright for being too much like their cherished favorites. I'm highly anti-genre in general; I just happen to have never found a strain of metal I can like, which compels me to figure out what my damn problem is. I have made *some* inroads with prog, but they happen not to have been represented in the list at hand... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:31:14 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters On 3/4/07, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder will > induct R.E.M. Barf. Patti Smith will be inducted by reclusive Rage Against The Machine vocalist > Zach de la Rocha. Superbarf. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:36:41 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: fellow fegs ! On 3/4/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > wow, forgot to send him a card; but i did play 'alright, yeah' on guitar > for my daughter. her birthday is coming up next week. maybe she'll get > electric bulbs on her cake. Dare I ask what day? My oldest is a St. Patrick's baby. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:16:13 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available On 3/4/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > Miles also had Glossary in his top 2006 discs, as did I, but I owe that > to > > him as well. > > Wow, thanks! The last two Glossary discs are very, very good. > http://www.glossary.us tells me they're coming your way live for the > first time evah. My only only complaint about Glossary at all is that they have one really good melodic hook that they reuse with the same phrasing and some of the same words several times over those two records... but that is more than made up for by the fact that they have a lot of other hooks as well. Great, great records; although I came to it a year late, "How We Handle Our Midnights" was my record of that year for sure. Right album at the right time; it still really transports me to listen to it now, and it mystifies me why the band isn't better known. Perfectly fine but not nearly as good bands like Band of Horses get tons of press and are not, to my mind, nearly as far along nor paradoxically as viscerally satisfying as Glossary. Please, somebody else, buy one of their records. - -Rex np. the new Stooges record. Certainly no less than interesting... maybe really good... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:41:58 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On 3/5/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > Family Guy is genius, of course. It's daring and hilarious and points > out > > all the right weaknesses in popular conceptions. > > Am I the only person in the English-speaking world who neither loves nor > hates Family Guy, but just kinda mildly likes it? I don't know about that, but I am profoundly ambivalent about Family Guy. It always makes me laugh (hard), but I come away feeling empty. The humor doesn't seem to come from love, as opposed to the Simpsons, which nearly always gives the impression that while people are stupid and horrible, they're also lovable. Family Guy just leaves me feeling that people are stupid and horrible, full stop. V. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:43:22 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Movie Talk On 3/4/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 3/4/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > > e > > was being insulted somehow. It'd be like a Robyn-fan / list-newbie > > wandering out here and thinking "Feg" was some sort of challenge to his > > sexuality... > > > > Or that we were often pissed off at some guy named Tom Clark. > > Which isn't true - except of course for Peter Buck. Hey, I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the fact that Buck often posts here under the super secret alias of-- oops, almost gave it away. Sorry, Eddie. Erm-- I mean, Pete! Sorry, Pete! Yeah, that's it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:56:27 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On 3/5/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > Am I the only person in the English-speaking world who neither loves nor > hates Family Guy, but just kinda mildly likes it? Possibly. I hate it. But I'm the only guy who neither loves nor hates Morrissey nor Joanna Newsom, so I admire your position! I'm still pretty far removed from TV watching, but if I had the time and inclination, BSG and Silverman would be among the few things I'd check out, and I'd prolly slot right back into Daily Show and Colbert Report viewing, and peek in on 24 to see how that turned out; it seems from what I've read to have taken a turn rightwards (or maybe I just can't shake the stink that emananted from the clips from Surnow's Fox News Channel Daily Show knockoff... so embarassing that the Daily Show could just air it in its entirety without needing to even comment). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:00:43 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On 3/5/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > > I don't know about that, but I am profoundly ambivalent about Family Guy. > It > always makes me laugh (hard), but I come away feeling empty. The humor > doesn't seem to come from love, as opposed to the Simpsons, which nearly > always gives the impression that while people are stupid and horrible, > they're also lovable. Family Guy just leaves me feeling that people are > stupid and horrible, full stop. Spot on, I'd say. The show has a profound lack of heart, cheesy as that sounds. I've found that I'm not the only South Park fan to, perhaps paradoxically, feel that way about Family Guy. I also think that Family Guy is particularly shitty at maintaining its own reality, with the cutaway satire bits, and the talking dog stuff, and on and on-- that again from a guy who's just fine with Kenny dying over and over again. Also, testiclechins. Can't forget the testiclechins. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, 2fs wrote: > > Now, I don't want to start an extended Buffy discussion. > > Yes, you do. No, seriously! After all, I have a staff meeting this afternoon. > Anyway, it's this kind of discussion that reveals the shallowness of my > geekiness: I recognize only a handful of episode titles. Hey, everyone's geekiness looks shallow compared to mine. > That's true - but "anarchic collective" is pretty much a translation into > the political of "created family." I don't think Whedon et al. would reject > the more political reading - certainly, the notion of what one has to do to [snip] Good point. I guess the distinction between political and personal here is really just between two different ways of viewing and contextualizing what we see. It mostly only matters if we're discussing the creators' intent, and maybe not even then. Either way, the result we see on the screen is the same. In general, I think politics in art, whether it's film, TV, literature or music, works better when it arises naturally from individual characters' stories, than when the artist picks a political message first and then tries to illustrate it. > Actually, I think the antagonists in Buffy were quite as often the > characters themselves and their limitations and preconceptions: literally in > some cases, symbolically in others. Definitely true. Season 6 is often described as the one where the characters' own problems are the "big bad," but really it was a recurrent theme throughout the show. There are no flawless square-jawed white-hatted heroes in the Whedonverse. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:21:49 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available Rex wrote: >np. the new Stooges record. Certainly no less than interesting... maybe really good... Hmmm, I still don't own Raw Power. I've been waiting for a double disc reissue like the first two Stooges albums got. I did get an 8 track version of The Stooges first album back in 1969 though. Although the MC5 were much more popular back then in Metro Detroit. I am guessing at this, but the Stooges have probably pretty much ecsliped the MC5 as far as legendary status goes these days. Having John Cale produce your first album certainly doesn't hurt. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:23:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters Rex wrote: > On 3/4/07, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder will induct R.E.M. > > Barf. At least Eddie's sincere. > > Patti Smith will be inducted by reclusive Rage Against The > > Machine vocalist Zach de la Rocha. > > Superbarf. If they were just going to pull shit out of their asses, couldn't it at least be entertaining shit? I mean, Christ, Nikki Sixx* (to pick a name at semi-random) would've been heresy too, but at least it could have been amusing heresy (after all, he can, you know, talk, rather than mutter and grumble). *I was just talking to one of my friend's about my birthday plans, which I always refer to as my plans for celebrating Al Green's birthday, since it's the same day, and he lamented all he had was Nikki Sixx, the chick from Blossom (same year), and Frank Sinatra. I have the exact date as the creep from Staind though, which makes me wish it was the chick from Blossom. Then I remember I share a birthday with Al Green and Thomas Jefferson and I'm happy again. This has been the most boring feg-paragraph in years, excluding flamewars. Why are you still reading it. But anyways, that's why I pulled Nikki Sixx out of my ass. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:32:21 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On 3/5/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > In general, I think politics in art, whether it's film, TV, literature or > music, works better when it arises naturally from individual characters' > stories, than when the artist picks a political message first and then > tries to illustrate it. Or at least acknowleges that characters or perspectives are necessary to make anyone even care about the politics... which is why Gang of Four is awesome and Rage Against the Machine is lame-o. Rex, really on an anti-Rage tear today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:34:10 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ wears a mullet On 3/5/07, Rex wrote: > > > and peek in on 24 to see how that turned out; it seems from what I've read > to have taken a turn rightwards I'm not so sure on that. (spoiler - well, up to last week anyway) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Right now, for example, the faction that wanted more, and more invasive, anti-terrorist measures is in a plot to kill the president - and although we don't yet know how that'll turn out, it probably isn't going to be presented as the right thing to have done. One likely scenario: Pres. isn't dead, just wounded - but Terrorist With a Heart of Gold is killed - leading to a propaganda bonus for terrorists throughout the world (he hadn't given his change-of-heart speech yet) who will claim (correctly) that elements very high up in US govt. assassinated him. So if it's right-wing, it's not pro-Bush admin. right-wing. As I think I posted here before, I think that it's trying to present a fairly complex political viewpoint for an action show with a goofy concept and a rather cavalier regard for realism. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:24:37 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Miss Jennifer Jones is lying dead on my porch, do do do do-ooh For all of you Wild Man Fisher fans (hi Al! Eb - - are you still here?) who get the Sundance channel, check out DERAILROADED: INSIDE THE MIND OF LARRY "WILD MAN" FISCHER tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available "Bachman, Michael" wrote: > Hmmm, I still don't own Raw Power. I've been waiting for a double > disc reissue like the first two Stooges albums got. Given that Legacy did a single disc re-issue/remaster (with Iggy re-mixing it, all "into the red" he writes in the liner notes) not that long ago, that probably won't happen anytime soon. The annoying this about that is you could have easily fit the new remixes and a remaster of the old mixes on a single disc easily, with a 20-60 second gap between the two. Not that the new mixes aren't more Stooge-like. But having both available would be better archaeologically. > I did get an 8 track > version of The Stooges first album back in 1969 though. Although > the MC5 were much more popular back then in Metro Detroit. I am > guessing at this, but the Stooges have probably pretty much > ecsliped the MC5 as far as legendary status goes these days. > Having John Cale produce your first album certainly doesn't hurt. Iggy's solo career. As does Iggy not being dead. Croakign only really works as a career move if your already famous, with the rare exception beingwhen those around you keep plugging along in your absense in spite of your death (Ian Curtis) or someone decides to make a nice Volkswagen commercial 30 years later (Nick Drake). "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:41:18 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: today's headling: Dwarf to Fegs: "I pulled Nikki Sixx out of my ass" Hopefully no pictures at eleven. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:42:03 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ wears a mullet On 3/5/07, 2fs wrote: > > > So if it's right-wing, it's not pro-Bush admin. right-wing. As I think I > posted here before, I think that it's trying to present a fairly complex > political viewpoint for an action show with a goofy concept and a rather > cavalier regard for realism. That's how I recall it (Seasons 1-3), but Surnow has gotten some bad press lately. I'd assume Keifer is at least as much of an engine for the big decisions on what happens on the show, and he's a leftie, of course. The tension between those viewpoints was alway probably a boon to the show, it's just that the BTS stuff seems to get more play in the press these days... maybe 'cuz the show is more popular and stuff. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:47:50 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available - -- "Bachman, Michael" is rumored to have mumbled on 5. Mdrz 2007 13:21:49 -0500 regarding RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available: > Having John Cale produce your first > album certainly doesn't hurt. He also produced the first album of "Element Of Crime" and look where *that* got them! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:54:55 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available Subject: RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available - -- "Bachman, Michael" is rumored to have mumbled on 5. Mdrz 2007 13:21:49 -0500 regarding RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available: >> Having John Cale produce your first >> album certainly doesn't hurt. Sebastian wrote: >He also produced the first album of "Element Of Crime" and look where >*that* got them! Never even heard of them! Although I certainly have heard of "Crime and the City Solution". Way cool inclusion of CATCS by Wim Wenders in one of my top 25 movies of all time, "Wings of Desire". MJ Bachman NP Patty Griffin - Children Running Through ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:50:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Movie Talk "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Don't dismiss Clerks II; it's a pretty good movie, and the dialogue > is as sharp as ever. The Battle of the Intergenerational Trilogies > (basically, Star Wars vs LOTR) is a hoot. I liked it, but I would say of his good movies, it's one of the lesser ones. It's not as sharp as the first Clerks, Chasing Amy or Dogma, and not as gloriously and ludicrously over the top as J&SBSB. And the end, while effective for the plot, shows that he doesn't quite have a handle on how to write dialogue for more emotionally mature characters yet (though it's a significant improvement over Jersey Girl). If you can call someone who procures interspecies erotica a more emotionally mature character. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! Capuchin wrote: > Family Guy is genius, of course. It's daring and hilarious and > points out all the right weaknesses in popular conceptions. My > only complaint is the sophomoric Quagmire. I say this as someone who likes the show, but: There's a character on Family Guy that isn't essentially sophomoric? Brian comes closest, and he's the dog. > But I have to forgive even that for the > jaw-droppingly perverse scene that ends with the line, "Dear Diary: > Jackpot!" > > I watched the first season of WonderShowzen and it was hit and > miss. The second season was even more erratic, and fell into a lot of really lame, narcisisstic[sp] crap. > At its best, it was brilliant. I think most of the Beat Kids > segments were amazing to watch (particularly, the red-haired boy You made Hitler cry! > I haven't seen the new Sarah Silverman show, but I think she's > painfully unfunny most of the time. Sarah Silverman is a great idea, poorly executed. Like pretty much everything Jimmy Kimmel or Adam Carrolla touches. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:14:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: today's headling: Dwarf to Fegs: "I pulled Nikki Sixx out of my ass" 2fs wrote: > Hopefully no pictures at eleven. I'm just glad it wasn't Tommy Lee. I'm taking society at large's word for it that he is that big; I've never seen his vacation video with Pam Anderson. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:18:49 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available - --On 5. Mdrz 2007 13:54:55 -0500 "Bachman, Michael" wrote: > Sebastian wrote: >> He also produced the first album of "Element Of Crime" and look where >> *that* got them! > > Never even heard of them! That's what I meant :-) I saw them when their first album came out. At the time they had English lyrics. I mostly remember what an awful German accent the singer had. That in itself ruined it for me. They switched to singing in German shortly thereafter. I ignored them for more than a decade, but saw them again last year. I hated them in German as well :-) They are quite popular, however, and the singer has had success with two novels as well, one of which has been made into a successful movie: Anyway, all the hopes that were probably connected with John Cale's production seem to have been in vain. > Although I certainly have heard of "Crime and > the City Solution". Way cool inclusion of CATCS by Wim Wenders in one of > my top 25 movies of all time, "Wings of Desire". Yeah, I agree about the music, although I don't really agree about the movie. It's always been a mystery to me why so many people in the US love it so much. It has its moments, and I think it's Wenders' best movie, but there are also quite a few embarrassing elements: Peter Handke's poem at the beginning and the awful monologue at the end, for instance. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #83 *******************************