From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #82 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 5 2007 Volume 16 : Number 082 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jay-Z, Vedder, Richards Among Rock Hall Inducters [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] robyn @ sxsw update [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] My name is Chuck Norris & I have it on good authority that Jesus was a Capricorn ["Michael Sweeney" ] Yeah, Alright ... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] lennon film [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] re: fellow fegs ! [ken ostrander ] Sex Dwarf ["John Irvine" ] RE: Movie Talk ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Page's axe ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! [] RE: NPR's Ode to Metal ["Bachman, Michael"

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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:32:22 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: My name is Chuck Norris & I have it on good authority that Jesus was a Capricorn Eddie wrote: >i got *Deadwood* season one from the library on recommendation from this >board, and thought it was complete and utter shit. so, if i hateHateHATE >feg-faves *Buffy*, *Gilmore Girls*, and *Deadwood*; and loveLoveLOVE >*Family Guy*, *Wonder Showzen*, and *Sarah Silverman*; how would i feel >about *Battlestar Galactica*? (my interest was initially piqued, >ironically enough, when kevin smith recommended it on ebert & roeper a >while back.) hmm, i guess my three loves are all half-hour comedies. i >loved *The Sopranos* too, if that helps. For what it's worth (from a Kevin Smith fan...;->), my ratings are LOVE "Deadwood," couldn't give a rats about "Buffy" or "Gilmore," so-so on "Family Guy" (more up than down, though), big thumbs up on "Wonder Showzen," and intrigued by Sarah, but yet to see more than a few minutes. And only as of today (based on earlier posts) have I become interested in seeing BSG 2.0 (having lived through and hatedHatedHATED the '70s incarnation). ...but (even with a down half season most recently) I also luv me some "Sopranos" Uh...so I guess I'm no he'p (as often is the case)...also have all the seasons of "The Wire" on either DVD or VHS, and am waiting for the opportune time to plow through it all -- never seen even a minute of it previously, but am so sure I will like it, almost prolonging the tease by not starting the wallow-fest yet (maybe when everything else goes into spring re-runs will be the right time...) Michael "Not a TV critic...but I play one on TV" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:19:40 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Movie Talk Don't dismiss Clerks II; it's a pretty good movie, and the dialogue is as sharp as ever. The Battle of the Intergenerational Trilogies (basically, Star Wars vs LOTR) is a hoot. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:24:02 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Yeah, Alright ... Fellow-feg and Of Montrealer The Late B. P. Helium's Byrdsy take on "Alright, Yeah": http://www.opticalatlas.com/sounds/Alright%20Yeah.MP3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 07:22:58 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: lennon film * (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/) Film gets Beatle back to where he once belonged By Steven Rosenberg, Globe Staff | March 5, 2007 The grainy images on the black-and-white videotapes are more than 30 years old. It's February 1970, and John Lennon, 29, will be a member of the Beatles for just two more months. He's in the middle of one of his most creative periods; he's recently released "Instant Karma," and soon he'll undergo the primal therapy that will help shape his seminal first solo album, "Plastic Ono Band." Unseen and undisturbed for decades, the tapes capture three days in Lennon's life. Tomorrow, people can see some of the images for the first time, when a two-hour documentary of the footage, "3 Days in the Life," is released and shown for free at Berwick Academy in Maine. The tapes might not have been seen at all if it wasn't for John Fallon . Fifteen years ago, the Cape Cod art collector was approached by an acquaintance of Tony Cox , Yoko Ono's former husband, who asked if he'd be interested in buying 13 charcoal drawings done by Lennon. Fallon said yes, and soon he was in touch with Cox, who was selling all of the Lennon-associated artwork and memorabilia he had collected during 1969 and 1970, when he spent time with the couple in Denmark and England. After Fallon bought the drawings, Cox pitched him his largest John and Yoko cache: 10 hours of raw footage from a documentary he had planned but never finished. The footage was shot by Cox on a video camera from Feb. 8 to 10, 1970, at Lennon's Tittenhurst Park estate in England. The film shows Lennon writing "Remember" and "Mind Games," and performing "Instant Karma." Fallon spent eight years negotiating with Cox over the price of the film. During that time, he persuaded former Boston musician, sound engineer, and Beatles memorabilia collector Ray Thomas (who now lives in Rye, N.H.) and Providence businessman Bob Grenier to invest in the unfinished documentary. In 2000, the three paid $1 million for the 10 hours of tapes. At first they thought they'd finish the documentary, but to do so, they needed Ono to sign off on the project. "She didn't remember making the movie," said Thomas. He was unsuccessful in his attempts to get her involved in the film. Without a written release from Ono, the tapes sat untouched for years. With the documentary off the table, Fallon said, the group had no definitive plans to do anything with the tapes. Now, he said, he simply wants to share them with the public. "I'm hoping I can just add to a better feeling of how people can understand John's life," said Fallon. Thomas came up with the idea of showing an edited version of the tapes to high school and college students for free, which he said he can do legally, for educational purposes. In addition to the Berwick Academy showing, the film's producers plan public viewings of the documentary at colleges throughout the country._Continued..._ (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/05/film_gets_beatle _back_to_where_he_once_belonged?page=2) Lennon fans may find it a challenge to follow the film, which is unscripted and not narrated. In it, we see Lennon and Ono playing with Julian Lennon and Kyoko Cox , children from previous marriages. Journalists come and go from the 100-acre estate during the three days; Lennon meets with Michael X , a black civil- rights advocate who was later convicted of murder and hanged in Trinidad ; Lennon appears on the BBC. There are no quick cuts or high-end cinematic effects here. Though Cox had served as the director for Ono's film "Bottoms" in 1966, it appears he was a beginner with the camera. The film is shot cinema veriti, and several segments are out of focus or poorly lighted. This was on purpose, said Thomas. "Everything was intentionally done. They wanted it out of focus, they wanted it bouncing around. This is what John Lennon wanted," said Thomas. Fallon said the idea behind the film was to show Lennon and Ono during their transformation from musician and artist to political activists. "Tony was going to show it to friends of Yoko's and to a beatnik crowd out of New York City," said Fallon. While the unsteady shooting is often distracting, there are scenes that lend great insight into Lennon's persona, creative process, and relationship with Ono. One thing we learn is that Lennon was seemingly oblivious to background noise. He holds interviews while Ono sits next to him talking on the phone. He also has the radio on wherever he goes, and the music from that era serves as a soundtrack to the film. As Lennon blow-dries Ono's hair, they listen to "Leaving on a Jet Plane"; Lennon rests on his bed, smiling as Dylan's "Just Like a Woman" plays; in his chauffeur-driven Mercedes, Lennon turns on the radio and we hear Joni Mitchell's "Both Sides Now." Lennon doesn't allow distractions to get in the way of the creative process, either. When we see him composing "Remember," he's hunched over an upright piano banging out chords and singing near-complete lyrics. Cox hands the camera to Yoko and plays air piano next to Lennon, who isn't faze d . The Beatle vamps for the camera and finishes the song. There are serious moments, too. At one point, Lennon talks openly about the couple's overcoming drug addiction. "We've resurrected hope in ourselves, and we're hoping to spread it around a bit -- to tell people you can get off speed, you can get off H [heroin], you can get off pot. You know, because whatever they say, you do get hooked on it," says Lennon. Thomas, who managed the Psychedelic Supermarket and the Unicorn Coffee House rock clubs in Boston, said he hopes the footage will inspire a new generation to explore Lennon's work. "I hope they'll get an education and learn firsthand, historically, who and what this guy was all about," said Thomas. "In the film he's a father, he's a songwriter, he's an artist, he's a husband, he's a lover, but he's also a very outspoken political activist, and he uses that celebrity to drive that activist vehicle." For more information on the film, go to _3daysinthelife.com_ (http://3daysinthelife.com/) . Steven Rosenberg can be reached at _rosenberg@globe.com_ (mailto:rosenberg@globe.com) . ) Copyright 2007 Globe Newspaper Company. _1_ (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/05/film_gets_beatle _back_to_where_he_once_belonged?page=1) _2_ (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/05/film_gets_beatle _back_to_where_he_once_belonged ?page=2) _Next_ (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/05/film_gets_beatle _back_to_where_he_once_belonged?page=2) _http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/05/film_gets_beatle _ back_to_where_he_once_belonged/_ (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/03/05/film_gets_beatle _back_to_where_he_once_belonged/) PICTURES : _http://3daysinthelife.com/_ (http://3daysinthelife.com/) _Exec Producer's Message_ (http://3daysinthelife.com/message.htm) Host School Specs ____________________________________ Partcipating School Specs ____________________________________ Request Trailer ____________________________________ View Technical Specs . 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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 04:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! A few words on television -- which I only watch from downloaded torrents and only whole seasons at a time, so I haven't seen anything from the current seasons of anything currently in production. On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Stacked Crooked wrote: > i got *Deadwood* season one from the library on recommendation from this > board, and thought it was complete and utter shit. so, if i > hateHateHATE feg-faves *Buffy*, *Gilmore Girls*, and *Deadwood*; and > loveLoveLOVE *Family Guy*, *Wonder Showzen*, and *Sarah Silverman*; how > would i feel about *Battlestar Galactica*? (my interest was initially > piqued, ironically enough, when kevin smith recommended it on ebert & > roeper a while back.) hmm, i guess my three loves are all half-hour > comedies. i loved *The Sopranos* too, if that helps. Deadwood is all about the language. Farnham's soliloquy while scrubbing the blood from the floor of one of his hotel rooms in season one was so beautifully written and acted that I forgave everyone who recommended the show for the swearing. Buffy must be taken as a piece (preferably with Angel, the last episode of which is so good that the other 109 episodes could have been half as good and still would be required viewing just to give the context for that final forty minutes). There are almost a dozen perfect episodes (Prophecy Girl, Innocence, Lover's Walk, The Zeppo, Hush, Restless, The Body, Once More With Feeling, Selfless, Conversations With Dead People) and many others that have transcendent moments (though much of this has to be appreciated in retrospect -- Prophecy Girl was just as crappy as the rest of the first season the first time I watched it). In addition to being a wonderful little allegory about teen life (where the dangers of the world are represented by real demons and high school is literally the gate to Hell), the over-arching story is about how anarchic collectives are the only force of good against the evil of imposed authority. Gilmore Girls is pap from what I've seen. I haven't read anything to convince me to give it a real shot, though. Family Guy is genius, of course. It's daring and hilarious and points out all the right weaknesses in popular conceptions. My only complaint is the sophomoric Quagmire. But I have to forgive even that for the jaw-droppingly perverse scene that ends with the line, "Dear Diary: Jackpot!" I watched the first season of WonderShowzen and it was hit and miss. At its best, it was brilliant. I think most of the Beat Kids segments were amazing to watch (particularly, the red-haired boy who went to the butcher shop and played with the meat and the very young black girl who wandered Wall Street asking rich white men how they get the blood off their hands) and the children voiceovers of old industrial and educational footage was always worthwhile. But there were many long bits that did nothing for me (mostly, the puppet bits). I haven't seen the new Sarah Silverman show, but I think she's painfully unfunny most of the time. I understand that she's part of this second generation of Los Angeles uncomedy that gave us some genuinely funny things like Mr. Show, but she just seems rather untalented. She occassionally writes a funny joke and will sometimes even deliver it well, but she's so much more miss than hit, you have to wonder why she's successful at all. I watched the first two seasons of Battlestar Galactica and thought it was kind of half-assed. They took everything they know about cinematography from Firefly and removed all of the charm by trying way harder. The story wanders and the characters act irrationally almost all the time. There is no coherence. There is only this ragtag fugitive fleet of episodes on a lonely quest for a shining planet known as Narrative. I really should go to bed. I just went to the March Fourth Marching Band's annual birthday show. It was amazing and exhausting. Look them up. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 06:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: fellow fegs ! >>I travel too much and I buy only ethnic music when I travel.< > >what are you into? there is a wealth of music out there. i'm currently reading sorry, late night. i'm currently reading "world music: the basics" by richard o. nidel. not only is it handy for breaking down the world music scene country-by-country, it also gives a little background history for each place. and plenty of recommendations. >> the stones and the ripples are not the same. > >That's true - the Ripples tried to get that sound, but they were always a >pale imitation of Mick and Keith and the boys. > >Uh, that's how I read what you'd written, the first time. serves me right for trying to be all koansey. but you read it again. you like me! ken "i don't care if my hair turns grey" the kenster np 'time and tide' split enz - --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:18:44 -0500 From: "John Irvine" Subject: Sex Dwarf I'm glad someone brought up Whit Stillman, because it reminded me of where the line came from: "There's something kind of sexy about Uncle Scrooge" - That's what I was referring to, re Lynch's Dwarves being sexy. Anyway... - -John http://www.thejennifers.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:39:42 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Movie Talk - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Elizabeth Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:30 PM To: crustaceans ripped my flesh Subject: Re: Movie Talk Sebastian Hagedorn says: >> True, though season 5 is the best in my mind. Yet my appreciation of >> Star Trek has diminished a great deal ever since I discovered those >> movie-styled series that abound these days. Idea-wise there may be few >> that actually rival (good) Star Trek - let's not forget the croakers >> that went along with it, but regarding camera mobility and overall >> cinematic atmosphere not even the latest Trek series approached the >> level that other series had by that time reached. Lauren wrote: >I think Season 5 of Star Trek: TNG was after Gene Roddenberry died and I had remembered that people thought the series went a bit downhill afterwards. I don't remember enough of the episodes to have an opinion about it but I'll be going on to renting Seasons 4 and 5 eventually. I like the season that Ashley Judd was in, I think that was season 4 or 5. "The Game" episode was great as well as "Darmok" (with the aliens that only speak in metaphors that mean nothing to the TNG crew). I have most of them on VHS. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:41:40 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Page's axe > From: Tom Clark > Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal > >> To me >> it's really more a matter of sound: I don't think Page's guitar >> ever sounded >> particularly metal, and the way he played it never seemed >> particularly >> metal-esque to me either. > > It's the Les Paul. Lots more depth than a Tele or SG. But what the > hell do I know? I've always been under the impression that Page's main recording axe was a Tele. It certainly sounds like a Tele to me, on the records. And an SG can have gobs of depth. Just listen to Angus's solo on "Ride On," and you'll drown in it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:42:49 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Stacked Crooked wrote: > i got *Deadwood* season one from the library on recommendation from this > board, and thought it was complete and utter shit. so, if i hateHateHATE > feg-faves *Buffy*, Infidel! Harrumph. > *Gilmore Girls*, and *Deadwood*; and loveLoveLOVE > *Family Guy*, *Wonder Showzen*, and *Sarah Silverman*; how would i feel > about *Battlestar Galactica*? (my interest was initially piqued, > ironically enough, when kevin smith recommended it on ebert & roeper a > while back.) hmm, i guess my three loves are all half-hour comedies. i > loved *The Sopranos* too, if that helps. Hard to say. I don't think Battlestar Galactica resembles *any* of those shows. Maybe Buffy, Deadwood and The Sopranos a *little* bit, in that each show has a large ensemble cast where even secondary characters get a fair amount of development, and each features a lot of plots centered around moral dilemmas and awkward compromises. But BSG's tone and style are still very different. There certainly isn't much in the way of comedy, if that's important to you; though a moderate amount of subtle humor slips in amongst the drama and there is at least one semi-lighthearted episode. BSG really doesn't strike me as an Eddie-type show, but hey, I've been wrong before. (Several times, even!) I think you'll just have to give it a try. - --Chris "Richardson" The Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:45:35 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: NPR's Ode to Metal Miles wrote: >Whoa, not even part of the parlance in southern WV, though Skynyrd was usually well liked amongst the folks of >whom we've been speaking. >A weird and related phenomenon: these same folks all hate hate hated country music until Hank Jr. entered the redneck-pandering phase of his career in the early '80s. Suddenly there'd be a Hank Jr. cassette in their backpacks, between the Priest and Van Halen. The Class of 1986 probably helped as well I bet. The Steve Earle, Dwight Yoakum and Randy Travis debut albums would all make my top 25 of 1986 list easily. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:16:35 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was never circumcised (not even *once*!)! On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Capuchin wrote: > Buffy must be taken as a piece (preferably with Angel, the last episode of > which is so good that the other 109 episodes could have been half as good > and still would be required viewing just to give the context for that > final forty minutes). There are almost a dozen perfect episodes (Prophecy > Girl, Innocence, Lover's Walk, The Zeppo, Hush, Restless, The Body, Once > More With Feeling, Selfless, Conversations With Dead People) Now, I don't want to start an extended Buffy discussion. (Though that might be just the thing to prod Eb back out of lurkerdom? Hmmm....) But I just wanted to say briefly that your list of *perfect* episodes comes close to matching my list of *favorite* episodes. I might remove The Zeppo (fun but too lightweight) and Selfless (very well made, but I wasn't happy with the direction they took Anya's character in). In their place I might put Passion, Becoming I-II, Doppelgangland, The Gift, and maybe Fool for Love and the whole frantic rush from Seeing Red to the end of season 6. None of them are flawless, but they're episodes I keep coming back to as examples of what makes Buffy great. And getting away from the classics, I'm also quite fond of Family, Dirty Girls and The Pack. As far as Angel goes, I love the final episode, but season 5 as a whole doesn't thrill me as much as it seems to thrill most fans. (I've just been rewatching it recently.) On the whole season 3 is probably my favorite. It's angsterrific! > others that have transcendent moments (though much of this has to be > appreciated in retrospect -- Prophecy Girl was just as crappy as the rest > of the first season the first time I watched it). I don't recall how well I liked Prophecy Girl when I first saw it, but it's possibly my favorite single episode now. Forget the super-cheesy demon and occasional plot holes: emotionally, it's brilliant. This is the episode when the show first really came together. If any one episode could sum up Buffy's story, this one is it. > Hell), the over-arching story is about how anarchic collectives are the > only force of good against the evil of imposed authority. Hmmm.... You could actually make a good argument for that. I don't think the show's creators had a political message in mind, of course. They approached it strictly from a personal angle. The heart of the show is Buffy's personal journey to maturity and the "created family" she formed with her friends, so outside authority figures were natural and inevitable antagonists. > Family Guy is genius, of course. It's daring and hilarious and points out > all the right weaknesses in popular conceptions. Am I the only person in the English-speaking world who neither loves nor hates Family Guy, but just kinda mildly likes it? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:04:29 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Yes Album Quoting fegmaniax-digest : Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:54:28 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog c'mon now -- if you can't recall "Yours Is No Disgrace" note-for-note, you missed being 14 years old. Stewart * 22 actually. Come to think of it, isnt the riff quite similar to City of Fun by the Only Ones? - - Mike '59 this month' Godwin PS 14 for me is more "spreadin' all de light all arououououououououououound" (in a fake didge stylee) n.p. Nick K Teen and Al K Hall by Rolf Harris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:28:02 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: My name is "Bob Seger", and I have it on very good authority that Jesus Christ was a metal fan Miles on metal: > But this is how I remember it... That's it in a nutshell, nice summary. The fandom didn't go both ways; if you liked the lite pap garbage you could still try and like harder metal, but the inverse did not generally apply (these were polar opposites). The exception would be your correctly noted "Crue" problem, which is interesting because it preceeded an explosion of mini-genres within the hard rock/metal community. Which in turn allowed for finding different grades of metal to cozy up with. How was the first Fastway to be categorized? We just knew that hot chicks at the parties we went to liked it, so maybe it was OK after all ;) Ripples from different stones starting to overlap, to try and follow Ken's analogy. Cap: > There is only this ragtag fugitive fleet of episodes on a lonely quest for a shining planet known as Narrative. Funny! And dead-on right. Plus every time I see Olmos, I half expect Sonny to saunter through a bulkhead in a pastel blazer, pleated Beltrami slacks and perfect stubble. Miles: > everything most certainly has a cost in this show, and no one's hands are clean In this one particular aspect (only) it's probably the closest thing I've seen to Blake's 7. But of course the latter - thanks to Terry Nation - had narrative you could hang a deer from. Eddie: > i got *Deadwood* season one from the library on recommendation from > this board, and thought it was complete and utter shit. Really? I would have thought you to like it. Jeme is right about the E.B. scene, though I think that the recommendation was more about the juxtaposition of scenes like this with rough language, rather than just the latter by itself. I also felt that the scripts were better (with one character excepted) in Season Two, maybe there were more plot soliloquies as well. Tom on Robin: > Really? I thought she cleaned up quite well! http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0917848/ I'm quite looking forward to seeing more of her in something else; based on the special features she seems quite normal, but I wonder how hard it will be to get Jane's mouth out of my head. So to speak. Michael ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #82 *******************************