From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #80 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, March 4 2007 Volume 16 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available ["M] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #77 ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Movie Talk ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: oh good sweet Lord ["Miles Goosens" ] Surfin' Stevens ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Movie Talk [Christopher Gross ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #79 ["John Irvine" ] Re: Movie Talk [Christopher Gross ] Re: Movie Talk ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [Christopher Gross ] TVManiax! [Christopher Gross ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #79 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available [Re] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [Rex ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: TVManiax! ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:54:35 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available On 2/25/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > but what do you think of *Kicking Television*??? if you don't like that, > then, truly you have lost the scent. I was put off and didn't buy it, having enough bootlegs from 2002 and before to sustain my live Wilco jones. I really can't face the memory of seeing Tweedy do that godawful dance during "Hummingbird" at the 2004 show. > curious, though: what's your > favourite band now? (i'll put a sawbuck on the new pornographers just > because miles has such impeccable taste!!!) Flattery will get you *everywhere.* I don't think I have a reigning favorite right now. My favorite current live artist, and the guy whose work is most in line with my spirit, is Scott Miller - not the one from Game Theory/Loud Family but the one from the V-Roys. The only thing holding me back on declaring him the prize winner is that his albums since 2001's great solo debut THUS ALWAYS TO TYRANTS have only been sporadically great instead of consistently so. He is fucking amazing live, with or without a band. If you're at all alt-country inclined and don't get your money's worth at his show, heck, I'll refund you. Right up there would be the New Pornographers, as Eddie predicted, along with Ted Leo, Interpol, Goldfrapp, and the Pernice Brothers. Goldfrapp's SUPERNATURE was my #1 of 2005, and would have won 2006 too if I'd counted it for '06 - I couldn't wait for the early '06 US release and bought the import in August '05. > the day after Tennessee Ernie Ford died, and they did a very loose > as-impromptu-as-the-Hearbreakers-get "16 Tons" that rocked the house.> > > huhn. can't really imagine petty handling the vocals on that number!!! > (that's my mom's favourite song, by the way!!!) A favorite at my house growin' up too, and I'm sure anyone growing up in a mining area could relate. Petty was stretched to hit the low notes, but "ragged but right" was the order of the day. Maybe Stan Lynch, who was still in the band at the time, should have tackled the lead vox. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:02:40 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #77 On 3/4/07, Rex wrote: > > > On 3/3/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > > > REALLY DISAPPOINTING ALBUMS > > > 28) Yo La Tengo, I Am Not Afraid of You and I Will Beat Your Ass > > > > WTF?? > > > > I take it you like them in general, but not this one? I really wonder why. > > That's a little surprising to me, too... what rankled you about it? It > was all good times for me. too. I found it really boring and utterly unmemorable. I read all these reviews saying it was a glorious return to form, so some of the initial disappointment came from the immediate realization that it really *wasn't* PAINFUL / ELECTR-O-PURA / I CAN HEAR THE HEART... - -style noisy, droney glory. But even with that initial disappointment dissipated, it still hasn't stuck. I thought its two predecessors were more than a bit same-y and midtempo-dominated for my tastes, but I did like them ok, especially if I heard the songs shuffled with everything else in iTunes, breaking up the monotony. But this... man, I'm mentally snoozing in no time flat. Don't like the horns/piano stuff, don't like the soft pop stuff - seems to me to incorporate a lot of indiepop sounds and trends from the last 13 years or so that I don't like. Great title, though. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:23:13 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Movie Talk Oh oh oh, before I forget: > "Inland Empire" - still waiting. I saw it last night, and... well, let's put it this way... I'm still not sure *what* I saw, but I'm very glad that I saw it. And I'll likely pay to see it again on the big screen before the week's out. There's a lot of continuity - if you can use the word "continuity" in any meaningful way with this film - with LOST HIGHWAY and MULHOLLAND DRIVE, down to some of the actors from those films reappearing. It's like they're all wandering around the same mobius strip dreamscape, in and out of different identities and narratives. I'd say that if you find Lynch a trial to watch already, you should save your money and three hours of your life. But if you're fond of the things he does, well, this movie is chock full of those things. > Star Trek: TNG - Season 3 discs - I'll spare you the details. Not a > "movie" per-se anyway. But a kick-ass season. I have a hard time remembering individual seasons of TNG - I just know I watched them all at the time, I liked the show enough to watch them all, and I haven't felt a need to revisit it since the series ended in '94. I don't know why. I think maybe it's because BABYLON 5 and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA have spoiled me since then. > On the Horizon: > > "Metropolitan" - on DVD. It turns out I never saw this - I saw > "Barcelona" and "The Last Days of Disco" in the theatre. I am curious > as to well how his movies age. I haven't picked up the DVD, but I liked METROPOLITAN least of all of them. Whit's one of those guys, like Kevin Smith or Aaron Sorkin, who writes Dialogue No Actual Human Would Ever Say, which can get even more exacerbated when it's put together with Wooden Amateurish Acting (another flaw he seems to share with Kevin Smith). METROPOLITAN left me very cold at the time, so it's a wonder I even saw BARCELONA, but somehow it charmed me despite sharing many of those same flaws. I think the Bible dancing - and Chris Eigmann's character's priceless reaction to it - broke down my resistance. And before someone asks: Kevin Smith is the Bret Saberhagen of moviemakers. Every other one's good. So: CLERKS yay; MALLRATS nay; CHASING AMY yay; DOGMA yeech; JAY & SILENT BOB yay (minority opinion I know); JERSEY GIRL nay. I haven't seen CLERKS II yet, but it should be a "yay" based on this theory. Is it as solid as the Kevin Kline Moustache Theory (for which I can take no credit)? Perhaps not. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:24:45 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: oh good sweet Lord On 3/3/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Miles Goosens wrote: > > Beginning with the recording of SPOOKED, he's played here every > > year for the last few, but it turns out there > > was that Faustian Bargain fine print on the agreement I signed... > > Everything comes back to Krautrock.... I was actually hoping someone would go there! > (There's a krautrock band called Faust, right?) Yup yup. They should have done an album titled BARGAIN. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:37:00 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Surfin' Stevens A shout out to my friend Steve Holtebeck for the subject line. On 2/27/07, ken ostrander wrote: > did anyone else have audio problems during the broadcast? i guess it was that storm. we ended up scrolling through most of it; and still had to go to bed before it was over. i'm happy for marty; but i really hate it when the academy doesn't spread the love around. ??? THE DEPARTED won four, but it was hardly a GONE WITH THE WIND-style sweep... THE DEPARTED got Picture, Director, Editing (yay Thelma!), and Adapted Screenplay, and that's it. Lots of other places for other pictures to win. > > > I blame Sufjan Stevens.<< > > easy target. i dig the sufjan. it's sad when the hyperbole actually ruins a good artist for some people. OK, this is where my pithy throwaway line gets me in trouble (though Jeff did a yeoman's job of extrapolating for me). I've actually been discussing elsewhere whether or not indie hype affects my judgment - if an artist falls short of it, I *do* often mention it in passing - but I don't think Sufjan is one of those cases. The two times I have knowingly heard him, in a record store and while watching LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE, I had no idea I was about to hear him, and when the music started playing, my gut reaction was "what the hell is this icky, pretentious mess?" In other words, I think I did the equivalent of a blind test, and both times, what turned out to be Mr. Stevens' music got on my last nerve. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:52:56 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 3/2/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Of course it was!!! Sorry, I am all keyed up for a job interview this > afternoon and I made the final cut. Congrats! Hope all goes well for the last round. On that prog list: I have owned exactly two of them, IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING and 2112. I couldn't stand either one, though I'm fond of Crimson in general. My 2112 purchase dates from somewhere in my ages 10-13 period when I was figuring out popular music, trying to learn everything about it, and every artist - 10cc, Nazareth, Fleetwood Mac, Manilow - seemed to be on the same playing field. 2112 was on an 8-track, so I suspect that's still in my mom's house somewhere. I also tried out A FAREWELL TO KINGS during that time, but without success, and in '82 or '83 or so, in the best trade of any sort I ever made, I swapped it to David Bell for David Bowie's LOW. That trade pretty much sums up the development of my taste, I think. Like most non-Rush fans, I do acknowledge that "Tom Sawyer" has a badass riff. To complete my few prog confessions, I also tried out Gabriel-era Genesis (SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND and... something else that wasn't THE LAMB...), but this was in my late teens after discovering and loving solo Gabriel. I just couldn't get into Genesis, though I certainly grasp its organically folk-friendly qualities, which made it more affable to me than Yes or ELP. But I, III, SECURITY, that's really what I was about, and I was glad that Gabriel shed that skin. And as an adult, I did give Yes a belated trial, picking up a "Best of" comp after reading about the Loud Family's Scott Miller lifting from "Starship Troopers" for the riff on "Ballet Hetero." I did enjoy the Yes far more than I expected to enjoy it, but not so much that I felt any need to keep the CD. It was like I learned what I wanted to learn, got my questions answered, and that was all the Yes knowledge I needed. still hating Sting for rhyming "knowledge" with "college" in "Wrapped Around Your Finger" (it blew the sense of timelessness that otherwise prevails in the song), Miles > > MJB > > NP The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:53:16 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Movie Talk I second everything Miles said in praise of the new Battlestar Galactica. Now that The Wire is done for the year, it's easily my favorite current TV show. (Second place: Veronica Mars; third place: Rome. Right now those three are the *only* shows where I feel compelled to see every episode.) And if you're a Joss Whedon fan, you'll notice that the visual style of BSG is very heavily influenced by the late great Firefly. They even put a copy of the ship Serenity in the background of one scene of the 2003 miniseries as a Firefly homage. (I think it's in the scene where Laura Roslin is waiting to talk to her doctor.) > > and I have to find > > out when it's on (hopefully I don't need cable for it.) > > Yes and no - it is on the SciFi channel, so you need cable to see the > current season. But Seasons 1 and 2 are on DVD (warning: s2 is split > between two sets since SciFi decided to roll out the first half of s2 > on DVD just in time for Christmas 2005), so you can catch up in no > time, which is actually how I did it this summer. This is one of those shows that you should definitely see in order from the beginning, rather than just jumping in with the current season. If you buy or rent the DVDs (or get it via BitTorrent), make sure you start with "Battlestar Galactica: The Miniseries," aka "Battlestar Galactica: Series Pilot." It's NOT included with the season 1 DVDs, AFAIK. If you can watch the miniseries and the first two or three episodes of season 1 without getting hooked, well, then, BSG might not be for you. Though you should probably watch the rest of season 1 to make sure. And all of season 2, just to be absolutely certain.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:59:14 -0500 From: "John Irvine" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #79 Lauren said- "I think my parents have your parents trumped on this one as I have very fond memories from childhood of sitting in the living room listening to the (original) soundtrack to "Hair". I think my parents had seen the play in NYC." I can so relate - we must be the same age. For me and my siblings it was "Hair", "Jesus Christ Superstar" and an album by Rolf Harris called "Sun Arise." I could sing any of those songs front to back not having heard them in like 35 years. Here's how "Hair" got mixed up in my musical subconscious: http://www.thejennifers.com/covers.html http://www.thejennifers.com/The_Jennifers_-_Starshine.mp3 - -John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:09:07 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Movie Talk Haven't seen Black Snake Moan, but it reminds me of the plan I formulated when Hustle & Flow was garnering a lot of attention. Moviemakers thrive on ripping off other people's movies, right? My idea is to skip the movie and make a cheap knockoff of the hit song, "Hard Out There for a Pimp." Some titles I've been kicking around: - -"Rough Out There for a Rapist" - -"Pity the Poor Child Pornographer" - -"Contract Killing Doesn't Pay As Well As You Might Think" - -"(Just How Much Farther Can We Push) The Myth of the Brilliant Musician Who's an Absolute Shit in His Personal Life" What do you guys think? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:21:25 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Movie Talk On 3/4/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > I second everything Miles said in praise of the new Battlestar Galactica. Woot! > Now that The Wire is done for the year, I have yet to watch any of THE WIRE - I think it's my next "catch up with on DVD" project now that I've knocked off BSG, VERONICA MARS, and DEADWOOD. > it's easily my favorite current TV > show. (Second place: Veronica Mars; third place: Rome. Right now those > three are the *only* shows where I feel compelled to see every episode.) I watch both of those, and love ROME. It's sorta an A-/B+ on the writing instead of the A+ of DEADWOOD, but the acting is so delicious that it actually elevates the show. I'm still hacked off that the only acting nomination I can remember for the show was Polly Walker's Golden Globe not. Arguably, every principal actor in the show deserves recognition; it's that good. VERONICA MARS I'm a lot more iffy about: the first season was highly enjoyable to me; Season 2 was somewhat less nifty (most of my complaints center around the "plot extender" developments that set up the season - but I won't elaborate on-list in case because it's impossible for me to discuss in a spoiler-free manner) but still very worth watching. But Season 3 has grown very tiresome. I think it can save itself artistically only by doing these two things: (1) go hog wild with the "Unlikable Veronica" idea, a theme they've tried out several times, but never really stuck to with the consistency and force that could make things interesting again, and (2) shake Logan out of his torpor. > And if you're a Joss Whedon fan, you'll notice that the visual style of > BSG is very heavily influenced by the late great Firefly. They even put a > copy of the ship Serenity in the background of one scene of the 2003 > miniseries as a Firefly homage. (I think it's in the scene where Laura > Roslin is waiting to talk to her doctor.) I don't listen to every podcast but I was a little irked that what the show's creators said on the miniseries bonus features made it sound like that: * they'd invented the steadicam/documentary look for science fiction shows (see FIREFLY as Chris says) * they'd invented that look for TV shows period - not one mention of HOMICIDE for instance, not to mention HILL STREET * they'd never heard of this show called BABYLON 5, i.e., the show BSG most closely resembles I missed the FIREFLY homage but I can go back and spot it because... > you buy or rent the DVDs (or get it via BitTorrent), make sure you start > with "Battlestar Galactica: The Miniseries," aka "Battlestar Galactica: > Series Pilot." It's NOT included with the season 1 DVDs, AFAIK. Nope, it really is in the s1 DVDs. It's the first disc in the set. I haven't A-B'd the bonus features to see if they all made the trip from the miniseries disc (I suspect they haven't given the space limitations), but the miniseries itself is there, intact. > This is one of those shows that you should definitely see in order from > the beginning, rather than just jumping in with the current season. Yup yup. This is where DVDs are your friend. And it's really really hard when you're done with the DVDs to stand waiting a week (or longer) for the next new episode! It's really powerful and satisfying to be able to go right to the next episode and gobble it up. > If you > can watch the miniseries and the first two or three episodes of season 1 > without getting hooked, well, then, BSG might not be for you. My youngest sister and her husband lent me the miniseries DVDs, and I was so afire for the show after viewing it that I literally couldn't wait for Netflix to get me Season 1. I went out to the store *that night* and bought the s1 DVDs. And oh my gosh, that first episode of the series - it practically defines "in medias re" (which I don't think I've spelled correctly), and it really does sustain that pace and quality. Every episode always seems like they almost have too much show to cover in an hour! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:24:16 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal > Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, etc.: Before Metallica's "black > album," this was power-ballad-free true believer territory, and the > folks I knew who loved these bands, like my former brother in-law, > despised Warrant, Winger, et al. Again, keep in mind that these bands > rose to popularity while I was in college, so my exposure to metal was > considerably less by then. I came on the scene a little later, in 1986 (as a high school junior), after two years of listening mainly to hardcore and '70s punk and sneering at metal. It was the speed metal/thrash metal/underground metal movement that hooked me. At that time there was a definite sense among speed metal fans that Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer et al. were the rebels out to rescue us enlightened ones from soulless conformist corporate top-40 hair metal bands -- a sense of rebellion that very closely paralleled '70s punks' rebellion against corporate top-40 rock and pop. I miss those days of smug self-righteous teenage rebellion. Around that time there was also a mini-wave of hardcore punk bands who recorded metal tracks or whole metal albums; does anyone know of a genre name for them? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:54:11 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: TVManiax! On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Miles Goosens wrote: > I have yet to watch any of THE WIRE - I think it's my next "catch up > with on DVD" project Definitely recommended. If you find it tough going at first, give it a chance for at least half a season. It's not like any other cop show out there (not that I'm an expert). > I watch both of those, and love ROME. It's sorta an A-/B+ on the > writing instead of the A+ of DEADWOOD, but the acting is so delicious > that it actually elevates the show. Agreed that Deadwood is even better than Rome (and equal to The Wire). I was crushed to learn that they aren't making another full season. > VERONICA MARS I'm a lot more iffy about: the first season was highly > enjoyable to me; Season 2 was somewhat less nifty (most of my And agreed once more (I could probably reduce this whole post to "me too") - -- Veronica Mars has gone downhill since season 1. At first I attributed this to my own viewing conditions: I saw all of season 1 in a single feverish week of BitTorrenting, so it was tough to go back to watching one a week with the new episodes. But even allowing for that, this season just isn't as satisfying. I think part of the problem was their decision to have multiple short story arcs, which might have sounded good on paper but has lead to some pretty abrupt story resolutions (especially for the latest one). And Logan has become a problem. They clearly don't know what to do with him right now. I think they should just bite the bullet and keep him offscreen until they have a good story for him, like they're already doing with Wallace. But still, despite my growing disappointment with the show, I love Veronica and Keith too much to miss a single episode. The show will have to get a *lot* worse to break my addiction. > > you buy or rent the DVDs (or get it via BitTorrent), make sure you start > > with "Battlestar Galactica: The Miniseries," aka "Battlestar Galactica: > > Series Pilot." It's NOT included with the season 1 DVDs, AFAIK. > > Nope, it really is in the s1 DVDs. It's the first disc in the set. Cool! I guess it's just Netflix who separates them out. So, anyone who might stll be reading, don't worry about what I said earlier unless you're getting BSG from Netflix. I personally got all of season 1 through BitTorrent (another feverish week much like the one with Veronica Mars), but I may well shell out money for the DVDs someday soon. It's that good. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:54:28 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog c'mon now -- if you can't recall "Yours Is No Disgrace" note-for-note, you missed being 14 years old. Stewart (who was as close to Michigan as it's possible to be last night without actually being in the same country as Michigan.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:57:17 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #79 John Irvine wrote: > > ... an album by Rolf Harris called "Sun Arise." "spreadin' all de light all arououououououououououound" (in a fake didge stylee) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:00:06 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Interim Report from the Broomewars Truth Commission now available On 3/4/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > I don't think I have a reigning favorite right now. My favorite > current live artist, and the guy whose work is most in line with my > spirit, is Scott Miller - not the one from Game Theory/Loud Family but > the one from the V-Roys. The only thing holding me back on declaring > him the prize winner is that his albums since 2001's great solo debut > THUS ALWAYS TO TYRANTS have only been sporadically great instead of > consistently so. He is fucking amazing live, with or without a band. > If you're at all alt-country inclined and don't get your money's worth > at his show, heck, I'll refund you. Miles easily sold me on "the other" Scott Miller some years back. Miller's a much realer deal than many who try harder to seem like it... great songs that take a lot of the embarassment out of the idea of rootsiness. Or something, Laurenily, like that. Miles also had Glossary in his top 2006 discs, as did I, but I owe that to him as well. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:09:15 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On 3/4/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > >Strangely, though, the local > > word for all of the kids who liked all of those band was "Skynyrds". > > Whoa, not even part of the parlance in southern WV, though Skynyrd was > usually well liked amongst the folks of whom we've been speaking. Marylandese, really. Someone, a feg I think, and I apologize for forgetting who, floated me a bootleg of the Johnny Cash show I saw in Rocky Gap, MD, in 1991, and Cash himself says at one point, "Here's one for all you Skynyrds out there"... and I recall that from the show, although it was probably the last time I heard the term used as a name for a "class" of person. The disc has plenty of other evidence of Cash having studied up on local idioms, as he doubtless did everywhere he went... a real showman there... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:12:15 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 3/4/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > c'mon now -- if you can't recall "Yours Is No Disgrace" note-for-note, > you missed being 14 years old. I sorta went straight from 12 to 18 musically - in 1980, I got LONDON CALLING and DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN, and those Styx records collected dust from there on out. I do think "Too Much Time on My Hands" is a great song, and "Renegade" to a lesser extent. And to tie this to David Lynch, I had a dream last year where I was backstage at a Styx concert, and they turned out to be nice guys, but every one of them was a midget. They used trick stage mirrors to appear to be average-sized humans. I felt guilty for making fun of them before the show to my entirely-invented-for-this-dream girlfriend, who context dictates was a big Styx fan. Then I woke up. It was more fun when I dreamed I was Mike Mills and Stipe and Buck tried to replace me with Flea, right in the middle of an REM show. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:14:24 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog I said: > On 3/4/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > c'mon now -- if you can't recall "Yours Is No Disgrace" note-for-note, > > you missed being 14 years old. > > I sorta went straight from 12 to 18 musically - in 1980, I got LONDON > CALLING and DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN, and those Styx records > collected dust from there on out. Just to be clear, I do know we were still talking Yes with "Yours Is No Disgrace." My mind just jumped tracks to the things I didn't listen to anymore once LONDON CALLING sank in (i.e., Styx), and thus away from something that wasn't part of my listening yet (Yes). later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:31:38 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog Miles Goosens says: > And to tie this to David Lynch, I had a dream last year where I was > backstage at a Styx concert, and they turned out to be nice guys, but > every one of them was a midget. They used trick stage mirrors to > appear to be average-sized humans. I felt guilty for making fun of > them before the show to my entirely-invented-for-this-dream > girlfriend, who context dictates was a big Styx fan. Then I woke up. Just to help me with the Lynch-dwarf thing, was this a sex dream? > It was more fun when I dreamed I was Mike Mills and Stipe and Buck > tried to replace me with Flea, right in the middle of an REM show. If Flea was in it, definitely a sex dream. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:33:21 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: TVManiax! Christopher Gross says: > > > you buy or rent the DVDs (or get it via BitTorrent), make sure you start > > > with "Battlestar Galactica: The Miniseries," aka "Battlestar Galactica: > > > Series Pilot." It's NOT included with the season 1 DVDs, AFAIK. > > > > Nope, it really is in the s1 DVDs. It's the first disc in the set. > > Cool! I guess it's just Netflix who separates them out. So, anyone who > might stll be reading, don't worry about what I said earlier unless you're > getting BSG from Netflix. I personally got all of season 1 through > BitTorrent (another feverish week much like the one with Veronica Mars), > but I may well shell out money for the DVDs someday soon. It's that good. Thanks for the information as I will be getting them from Netflix. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #80 *******************************