From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #78 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 3 2007 Volume 16 : Number 078 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Impingement syndrome [Sebastian Hagedorn ] employing my new favorite emoticon ["natalie jacobs" ] RE: metal ribs ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [2fs ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [2fs ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [Tom Clark ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [2fs ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal ["Jason Brown" ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [Tom Clark ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [Tom Clark ] Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay [Jeff Dwarf ] Movie Talk ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Impingement syndrome [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay [Paul Rees ] Re: oh good sweet Lord ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: NPR's Ode to Metal [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: oh good sweet Lord [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #77 ["Jeanne Benzel" ] Robyn's best songs ["vivien lyon" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #77 ["Miles Goosens" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:34:07 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Impingement syndrome attenrion: entirely self-indulgent post ahead ... At least that's what I guess that i have. my right shoulder hurts like hell,even though i've taken all the painkillers i could find.it's much better now, but still too painful to be able to sleep. i've started to go to the gym and in addition to that i've been packing and moving boxes, because i'll move to a new appartment in two weeks. so it seems like a classical case of over-exertion. i've been contemplating calling the emergency doctor, but i'm worried they'd think i'm a sissy for calling "just" because opf pain ... so i guess i won't sleep tonight and have someone frive me to the emergency room tomorrow. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:37:03 -0600 From: "natalie jacobs" Subject: employing my new favorite emoticon > Fuck me. I'm gone for four years, and when I get back, The Quail is goin' > downtown! Things never change. > > Hi all. > > - -Doc Huzzah! Doc's back! \o/ n. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:01 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Impingement syndrome On Mar 2, 2007, at 6:34 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > attenrion: entirely self-indulgent post ahead ... > > At least that's what I guess that i have. my right shoulder hurts > like hell,even though i've taken all the painkillers i could > find.it's much better now, but still too painful to be able to > sleep. i've started to go to the gym and in addition to that i've > been packing and moving boxes, because i'll move to a new > appartment in two weeks. so it seems like a classical case of over- > exertion. > > i've been contemplating calling the emergency doctor, but i'm > worried they'd think i'm a sissy for calling "just" because opf > pain ... > > so i guess i won't sleep tonight and have someone frive me to the > emergency room tomorrow. Good luck Sebastian, I hope it's not serious! Do they have Vicadin in Germany? It's a good thing. - -tc ne: http://www.quorn.us//cmpage.aspx?pageid=462&productid=155 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:35:06 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: metal ribs Michael Wells wrote: > Miles: > > Whoa, better than Le Rendezvous in the dry ribs category? They'd > have > to be pretty spectacular then. > > > Not a huge fan of the dry-only ribs, it's got to be the holy trinity > for > me: smoke, rub *and* sauce. While visiting San Antonio we went out to a > place east of downtown that - like most south Texas BBQ, maybe you can > back me up on this, Gene - was smoked and rubbed only. Sauce was on the > table if you wanted it at all. The sausage was fine but the brisket and > ribs didn't really do that much for me. The Salt Lick, on the other > hand...long smoke, a piquant rub, the absolutely perfect sauce that's > not too sweet and just a hint of bite, plenty of > lemonade...getting...hungry... Just to qualify, I do agree with your holy trinity of smoke, rub and sauce. I don't, however, agree with sauce being by far the most dominant of the three thanks to soaking a beautifully smoked rib in a thick sauce. The perfect rib should have balance, and for that reason I prefer the sauce on the side. The Frontier Room has a really, really beautiful sauce that is at once smoky, spicy and yet still has a vinegar piquancy that really makes it stand out on their beautifully smoked meats. It's a little piece of Alabama bbq to my tastes--not so thin a vinegar based sauce as you'd find in the Carolinas, but certainly not something to rival a KC sauce for thickness or sweetness. Damn. Now I'm hungry. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:50:52 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On 3/2/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > "Heavy Metal Fans Are NPR Listeners Too." > > > > From All Things Considered, 25 Feb. 2007. > Christ you'd think these folks never saw _Spinal Tap_. I love the bit from the one guy (paraphrased): "Uh, it's like gotta be huge and big and cool and shit and make kick-ass t-shirts." Pausing to pick his knuckles up from the ground, he continued: "A mountain made of blood! And a crystal skull! Cuz like, blood is cool." When questioned as to how blood - a liquid - could form a mountain, or why a skull, part of some creature's skeletal remains, would be made of crystal, he growled threateningly. "Heavy! Kick-ass! Grrrr!" What was I saying before about "dumb"? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:55:02 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On 3/2/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > "Heavy Metal Fans Are NPR Listeners Too." > > Oh yeah: Led Zeppelin is not metal. Yes, a lot of metal fans like Zeppelin - but aside from the occasional fantasy lyric (and Page's satanism flirtation), there's really nothing metal about their music. Their power chords aren't played or used in the same fashion as Sabbath's, for example - and while some of the folky/Tolkiena Zeppelin occasionally worked with found its way into metal proper, that in itself doesn't make them metal. I'd say Zeppelin is a key *antecedent* to metal, without being metal itself. I suppose it's sorta pointless to argue what is/n't in a genre - but Zeppelin's just never *felt* metal to me. (On the other hand, that band all those metalheads love - Led Zepplin - *they're* metal.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:29:33 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On Mar 2, 2007, at 7:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > > I suppose it's sorta pointless to argue what is/n't in a genre - but > Zeppelin's just never *felt* metal to me. I'm no musicologist, but would the differentiation be the blues basis of Zep's work? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:57:31 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On 3/2/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2007, at 7:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > > > I suppose it's sorta pointless to argue what is/n't in a genre - but > > Zeppelin's just never *felt* metal to me. > > I'm no musicologist, but would the differentiation be the blues basis > of Zep's work? I'm not sure the distinction I hear is necessarily musicological...but probably not - in that Black Sabbath (whom I'd say is inarguably one of the cornerstones of metal) began with a pretty clear blues base as well. To me it's really more a matter of sound: I don't think Page's guitar ever sounded particularly metal, and the way he played it never seemed particularly metal-esque to me either. I'm pretty sure there are guitarists here who know way more about equipment and technique than I do who could maybe talk about what I might mean (unless, of course, you disagree with me - in which case you could still talk in technical terms about why you think LZ is metal. Because, uh, it's a really really important thing. ) Anyway: I listened to that download Eddie put up (or at least mentioned) recently of "Creatures of Light" - and I really like it. What is Robyn's deal? Two of my favorite songs of his - this one, and "Surfer Ghost" - never saw very wide release. Grumble grumble grumble at-least-we're-not-debating-what-is-or-is-not-metal grumble. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:08:32 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal > Christ you'd think these folks never saw _Spinal Tap_. I love the bit from > the one guy (paraphrased): "Uh, it's like gotta be huge and big and cool and > shit and make kick-ass t-shirts." Pausing to pick his knuckles up from the > ground, he continued: "A mountain made of blood! And a crystal skull! Cuz > like, blood is cool." When questioned as to how blood - a liquid - could > form a mountain, or why a skull, part of some creature's skeletal remains, > would be made of crystal, he growled threateningly. "Heavy! Kick-ass! > Grrrr!" The weird thing about metal is that one can't take it totally seriously and still enjoy it and yet the music isn't any good unless the artists take the aesthetic seriously. I do feel compelled to note that Mastodon is, to my knowledge, the only act other than Robyn to have a song called "Trilobite". and Rush fans might get a kick out of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHv69hdZ9eU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:18:03 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On Mar 2, 2007, at 8:57 PM, 2fs wrote: > I'm not sure the distinction I hear is necessarily musicological...but > probably not - in that Black Sabbath (whom I'd say is inarguably > one of the > cornerstones of metal) began with a pretty clear blues base as well. And Sabbath was in my mind when I was writing that. Yeah, they started in that genre, but perhaps Sabbath was one of the key "genre- benders" that took metal from heavy blues to demonic grind? I dunno, they're the main example I can think of right now. > To me > it's really more a matter of sound: I don't think Page's guitar > ever sounded > particularly metal, and the way he played it never seemed particularly > metal-esque to me either. It's the Les Paul. Lots more depth than a Tele or SG. But what the hell do I know? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:22:23 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal On Mar 2, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > and Rush fans might get a kick out of this: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHv69hdZ9eU That show has its moments. Man do I love the latin women... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005527/ - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:45:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/03/DDG4JODSFE1.DTL "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:45:02 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay Jeff Dwarf wrote: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/03/DDG4JODSFE1.DTL Sometimes they never come back, but some of them do. Gordon "Lone Pigeon" Anderson seems to be doing okay with the Aliens now; their "Happy Song" is absurdly catchy. Stewart - -- np: Schoozzzmmii - Lone Pigeon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:26:46 +0100 From: Paul Rees Subject: Re: Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay thanks for the roky link, nice to see him looking so well 8-) >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/03/DDG4JODSFE1.DTL >> > > Sometimes they never come back, but some of them do. Gordon "Lone > Pigeon" Anderson seems to be doing okay with the Aliens now; their > "Happy Song" is absurdly catchy. +1 for the aliens 8-) the album's great; live, they're crazy www.thealiens.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:17:48 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal But what about the actual ode itself? (It's at the "listen" link at the top of the page.) It was surely the best "Cremation of Sam McGee"-style groaner I heard all week. > Christ you'd think these folks never saw _Spinal Tap_. I love the bit from > the one guy (paraphrased): "Uh, it's like gotta be huge and big and cool and > shit and make kick-ass t-shirts." Pausing to pick his knuckles up from the > ground, he continued: "A mountain made of blood! And a crystal skull! Cuz > like, blood is cool." When questioned as to how blood - a liquid - could > form a mountain, or why a skull, part of some creature's skeletal remains, > would be made of crystal, he growled threateningly. "Heavy! Kick-ass! > Grrrr!" > > What was I saying before about "dumb"? Sure, that sounds dumb. Even the original, whose tone does not at all resemble the above paraphrase (I thought the reference to "bad-ass t-shirts" actually indicated a certain degree of self-aware humor), still sounds a little dumb. But it also sounds kind of ... dare I say it? ... fun. Whether or not fun should be a factor in music is a matter of personal taste, of course. I'm no musicologist either, but I'd say Led Zeppelin is metal in the same way that the Stooges are punk or Joy Division is goth or Jesus is Christian. The person/group was not part of the later movement, but did help inspire it, and the later movement incorporated some but not all elements of the inspiration's work. - --Chris "snobbery is beneath me" the Christer ps: Why are my knuckles always so dirty? ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:28:43 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Movie Talk Hi Fegs, With Eb M.I.A., I'll have to pick up the torch. Warning - he has better taste than I do. "Scoop" - watched this on DVD last night with one eye on my studies. I saw this in the theatre when it came out and loved it. Woody Allen and Scarlett Johanson are darling in it. The trailer made it look bad, IMO. Woody Allen keeps making the same jokes, and they're still funny. Well, they say repetition is the 1st and 3rd rule of comedy. "The Times of Harvey Milk" - on DVD. This was a tremendous documentary about the first openly gay member of San Francisco city council. I love the scenes from the 1970's Castro - really glorious. The movie also has an especially good "bonus" disc with interviews and some short features about the film, as well as revisting the legal issues surrounding what happened. "The Dreamers" - rewatched this in hopes of liking it better this time. There is something quite tremendous about it; I love the ways the characters are immersed in their love of film, and also the sort of "time of our lives" feel to it. But still something missing and I'm not quite sure what. Star Trek: TNG - Season 3 discs - I'll spare you the details. Not a "movie" per-se anyway. But a kick-ass season. On the Horizon: "Metropolitan" - on DVD. It turns out I never saw this - I saw "Barcelona" and "The Last Days of Disco" in the theatre. I am curious as to well how his movies age. "Black Snake Moan" - is it wrong that I want to see this? "Little Children" - still hanging around the theatres, scheduled to come to the nearby "art house" theatre "Zodiac" - is it wrong that I want to see this? "Inland Empire" - still waiting. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:57:54 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Impingement syndrome - -- Tom Clark is rumored to have mumbled on 2. Mdrz 2007 18:51:01 -0800 regarding Re: Impingement syndrome: > Good luck Sebastian, I hope it's not serious! Thanks. My father took me to the E.R. today where i was x-rayed and had an ultrasound done. Turns out there are calcium sediments(?) on my humerus bone that caused an inflammation or irritation of the bursa. It's supposed to be nothing serious. > Do they have Vicadin in > Germany? It's a good thing. Well, the German equivalent of the FDA disagrees :-) It's not allowed as a painkiller at all. There's just one cough medicine that contains it. As you may or may not know, Germany is much more restrictive regarding medicine than the US. You can't buy any medicine in supermarkets. It's only sold in pharmacies. And many items that are over-the-counter in the US are prescription-only here ... Anyway, I got a cortisone shot in the joint with a *very* long needle, plus some painkillers. On Monday I will have to see a "regular" orthopedic surgeon. Hopefully things will settle down on their own until then. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay Paul Rees wrote: > > +1 for the aliens 8-) the album's great; live, they're crazy > www.thealiens.co.uk There's an album? Cool. Thought there was only a couple of EPs. Chances of me ever seeing them live? Vanishingly small. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:39:59 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal Jeff, then Chris: > > Christ you'd think these folks never saw _Spinal Tap_. I love the bit from > > the one guy (paraphrased): "Uh, it's like gotta be huge and big and cool and > > shit and make kick-ass t-shirts." Pausing to pick his knuckles up from the > > ground, he continued: "A mountain made of blood! And a crystal skull! Cuz > > like, blood is cool." When questioned as to how blood - a liquid - could > > form a mountain, or why a skull, part of some creature's skeletal remains, > > would be made of crystal, he growled threateningly. "Heavy! Kick-ass! > > Grrrr!" > > > > What was I saying before about "dumb"? > > Sure, that sounds dumb. Even the original, whose tone does not at all > resemble the above paraphrase (I thought the reference to "bad-ass > t-shirts" actually indicated a certain degree of self-aware humor), still > sounds a little dumb. But it also sounds kind of ... dare I say it? ... > fun. Whether or not fun should be a factor in music is a matter of > personal taste, of course. I'm with Chris on this one. By the way, I missed the piece when it originally aired, but I first heard about it when they read a listener response about this story (though I can't find a link to it on npr.org right now - it apparently wasn't part of the Thursday "listener" segment). Its author seemed like he was sent over from Central Casting - I half expected him to start railing about those crazy beatniks, then go suspend the charter of Delta House before having a martini at the club. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:27:43 +0100 From: Paul Rees Subject: Re: Arthur and Syd are gone, but Roky just might be okay > Chances of me ever seeing them live? Vanishingly small. don't dismiss those chances so quickly; they're very keen chaps, they'll be over ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:13:01 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Lately On 3/2/07, Rex wrote: > On 3/2/07, Barbara Soutar wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > The digests are flying into my in-box so fast I can hardly keep up. I > > too have pneumonia > > > Oh, criminy! Take it easy and get better soon. Yes, get-well wishes to you two illin' Fegs - sorry to hear about Sebastian's troubles too. later, Miles, who's maybe seeing Inland Empire today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:57:17 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: oh good sweet Lord On 3/1/07, Rex wrote: > Let's all spare a moment of silence for Miles during this painful time. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: miles.goosens@regions.com > > > Please pass along this news to Feg... Here is the updated billing for > Robyn's Nashville show on 3/18: > > Robyn Hitchcock & The Nashville Crawdads featuring Peter Buck & some > Nashville pals > > I'm weeping openly. Why did I even bother to buy a ticket to this thing? Thanks to Rex for passing that on to the list while I was at work the other day. I'm actually thinking of taking a couple of vacation days that Monday and Tuesday and driving to Birmingham to see the Venus 3 show there on 3/19, unless they plan to make it a Lynyrd Skynyrd tribute or something. This is what I get for complaining so many times about Robyn playing here only every 5-7 years. Beginning with the recording of SPOOKED, he's played here every year for the last few, but it turns out there was that Faustian Bargain fine print on the agreement I signed... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:28:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: NPR's Ode to Metal Christopher Gross wrote: > I'm no musicologist either, but I'd say Led Zeppelin is metal in > the same way that the Stooges are punk or Joy Division is goth or > Jesus is Christian. The person/group was not part of the later > movement, but did help inspire it, and the later movement > incorporated some but not all elements of the inspiration's work. And, of course, the latter movement frequently didn't get the joke (though that's less true of punk than goth, metal, or Christianity). "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:32:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: oh good sweet Lord Miles Goosens wrote: > Beginning with the recording of SPOOKED, he's played here every > year for the last few, but it turns out there > was that Faustian Bargain fine print on the agreement I signed... Everything comes back to Krautrock.... (There's a krautrock band called Faust, right?) "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:46:31 -0500 From: "Jeanne Benzel" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #77 Michael Wells wrote: > Subject: Swiss accidentally invade Liechtenstein > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070302/ap_on_fe_st/mistaken_invasion > We'll be bringing you the rest of "World's Least Likely Headlines" right > after these... This story reminded me: I went to see Christopher Moore (author of You Suck! A Love Story, et al) speak a couple weeks ago and he told this long story about the annoying "where do you get your ideas" question, about a woman in Seattle who was arrested for hoarding rabbits, and then stealing some of them back. Repeatedly. The highlight of the story, for me, was that when she was pulled over, with many rabbits in her vehicle, there was a goldfish in a bowl on the passenger seat. I was wondering how the goldfish was surviving this epic crime spree, when Moore mentioned that the lady had a long straw and was aerating the fish's water as she drove. That there's some multi-tasking! All of which is to say, I had some fun making up headlines for that story. Mostly unprintable in any newspaper. So many digests! I had a no-time-for-email week and re-emerged to find that some of them bounced, they were flying so fast and thick. Like Carrie, I feel out of touch, but I have been filing some musical opinions... I'm somewhat surprised to find myself coming down on the positive side for Joanna Newsome. Perhaps it's to maintain the cosmic balance - a co-worker dropped the disc on my desk with visible revulsion. Hee. She bought it because of my interest. Luckily I also recommended she order the Editors "The Back Room" which we both love. The lead singer's voice reminds me very much of Dead Can Dance's Brendan Perry - something in the quality. He's young and doesn't have the technique or depth Perry has yet, obviously, but still. The sound is startlingly nostalgic - they are described as neo-post-punk, but it's more like they stepped through a timewarp from, like, 1981. And on the same wavelength, has anyone heard Art Brut's song Good Weekend (the "brand new girlfriend" song)? It's so catchy! I'll leave this multi-subject post with a link I've been meaning to post for a long time: http://tinyurl.com/242g6a Amazon's visiting surrealist, Mister Quickly, comments on Ys: "More than thYs., December 12, 2006 My friend Roger Custom recommended this album to me. I was suspicious, because upon his recommendation I also picked up an obscure album called "Sword Cutting Through Meat", the debut by the artist Sword Cutting Through Meat. I can't think of how to describe its content except referring you to the album title. Some time later, Roger Custom played me Sword Cutting Through Meat's sophomore album, "Babies Crying", which is only marginally better than his debut. The third release, "Stepping on Salmon" is an improvement that while sometimes having soothing tactile noises, on the whole is too slippery and falls short of its sporadic promise. So when Roger Custom recommended this album I felt he no longer had any credibility. Trying to sell me on Ys, he described it as the aural equivalent of barely pubescent girls flying giant swans in heart shaped squad formation across Henri Rousseau landscapes. I listened to it and agreed with him on this, but I'm more a Thiodore Rousseau fan which is why I've given Ys 3 stars." - Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:33:45 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Robyn's best songs On 3/2/07, 2fs wrote: > > > Anyway: I listened to that download Eddie put up (or at least mentioned) > recently of "Creatures of Light" - and I really like it. What is Robyn's > deal? Two of my favorite songs of his - this one, and "Surfer Ghost" - > never > saw very wide release. Grumble grumble grumble > at-least-we're-not-debating-what-is-or-is-not-metal grumble. I have long held the opinion, based on my love of You and Oblivion and Invisible Hitchcock, that Robyn himself does not reliably choose his best songs for official album tracks.* A Skull, A Suitcase and a Long Red Bottle of Wine and Ghost Ship are two of my favorite songs of his, and they were both relegated to an odds-and-sods compilation. Some of the best songs from Jewels for Sophia era were either on Star for Bram, or were bonus tracks (Hoot Hoot). Ditto Moss Elixir/Mossy Liquor. V. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:02:41 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #77 On 3/3/07, Jeanne Benzel wrote: > Luckily I also recommended she order > the Editors "The Back Room" which we both love. One of my 2006 favorites as well... hey, I didn't post my list to Feg, did I? EXCELLENT ALBUMS: 1) Hank III, Straight To Hell 2) Morrissey, Ringleader of the Tormentors 3) Glossary, For What I Don't Become 4) Paul Burch, East To West 5) The Pernice Brothers, Live a Little VERY GOOD ALBUMS 6) The Loud Family w/Anton Barbeau, What if It Works? 7) Robyn Hitchcock & the Venus 3, Ole Tarantula 8) Don Dixon, The Entire Combustible World in One Small Room 9) Starlight Mints, Drowaton 10) Editors, The Back Room 11) Frank Black, Fast Man Raider Man 12) Steve Wynn & the Miracle 3, ...tick ...tick ...tick GOOD ALBUMS 13) The Album Leaf, Into the Blue Again 14) The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Show Your Bones 15) Scott Miller, Citation 16) The Features, Contrast EP 17) David Mead, Tangerine Another pretty, smart, achingly tuneful David Mead album, one that has a few more musical left turns than you'd expect. GOOD ALBUMS 18) T-Bone Burnett, The True False Identity 19) Beck, The Information 20) Ray Davies, Other People's Lives 21) Dean & Britta, Words You Used To Say EP SORTA DISAPPOINTING 22) Be Your Own Pet, Be Your Own Pet 23) Richard Butler, Richard Butler 24) The Church, Uninvited Like the Clouds 25) She Wants Revenge, She Wants Revenge 26) How I Became the Bomb, Let's Go! REALLY DISAPPOINTING ALBUMS 27) The Streets, The Hardest Way to Make an Easy Livin' 28) Yo La Tengo, I Am Not Afraid of You and I Will Beat Your Ass meanwhile, back to the Editors... > The sound is startlingly nostalgic - they > are described as neo-post-punk, but it's more like they stepped through > a timewarp from, like, 1981. The timewarp metaphor is spot-on. Like Interpol, the previous press-anointed Fine Young Joy Division, they don't actually sound like Joy Division as much as they sound like they they're a band from the U.K. post-punk milieu in general. Yeah, I know Interpol are Americans and all. I love both them and the Editors, so I guess that sound is one of those sounds that almost always works for me, sort of like how I never minded that Luna kept redoing the Velvet Underground of the third album and 1969 Live. The Amazon surrealist review got a good laugh from me; thanks for passing that on. later, Miles ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #78 *******************************