From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #75 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 2 2007 Volume 16 : Number 075 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) [Rex ] Re: Why can't Johnny like prog? ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Mark P" ] Re: In a moment of weakness...OFFER CLOSED ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Prog Rock [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] RE: Why can't Johnny like prog? ["Bachman, Michael" ] The European Feglist RH TV Tree thingy-wotsit [craigie* ] RE: the top 25 albums in prog [matt sewell ] Eb MIA? [Steve Talkowski ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:47:08 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog > From: "michael wells" > > As Gene and I drool offlist over the upcoming Rush album, MELLOTRONS! And sick instrumentals. Fuck yeah! > there comes to light a new list to fulminate over: 2112? Nah, Hemispheres is far more prog. No Soft Machine, VDGG, not enough Krautrock. But aren't proggers just as apt to split hairs as Trekkers and people who know the history of GNU? Hell, those are all probably the same people. > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html You can hear lots of the music in this list here: , btw. Hey, that PFM sounds pretty fucking good. Think I'll try to find that album. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:28 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) Stewart C. Russell says: > > I think Sigur Ros rock. > > That's because they do. It's a simple, verifiable fact. But is it falsifiable? ;) xo NP: "These Things" - She Wants Revenge, both loving and hating it - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:29:31 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Why can't Johnny like prog? On 3/1/07, The Great Quail wrote: > > > Wow, I have exactly none of these. > > I have them all, except for two: PFM and Angels in Heavy Soup. I went back and took a closer look, and noticed the honorable mentions... don't have any of those either. I can't really even imagine enjoying any more that two and a half of these at all. But I also noticed something else, leading me to a theory: I only see one record here with any contributions from a female musician... very much a boy's club, prog, sorta like metal. And I don't like metal, either. Coincidence? I dunno, never thought about it before, but here's a new theory about my musical tastes: the genres that feel like "boys' clubs" just don't appeal to me, in part, because that disproportionate lack of a feminine voice doesn't reflect the adult world as I know it, and so these genres feel "juvenile" to me. That tracks with both genres' supernatural/fantasy/sci-fi/epic trappings, too, and the tendency to favor technique over emotion (allowing you to argue about your favorite musicians' skills as if they were athletes), and in the case of metal, outright misogyny. Hmmm. That could explain a thing or two about what's offputting to me here. I know I'll get in trouble for linking prog and metal so simply, and I also know that the deeply versed will be able to cite examples of female artists in both genres, but honestly, the ratio of male to female musicians is surely even more skewed in favor of males in these genres than in rock in general (where it's lopsided enough). In contrast, in most of my favorite music scenes, you find women participating right from the inception of the genre, often writing the ground rules... that's true of country music of every stripe, the whole post-Beatles pop-psych-folk-rock thing, early punk, post-punk, the broad category of "indie", and so on and so on into the goofy little microgenres. Two possible control groups come up positive: "classic power pop" is also fairly boys'-clubby, and I've recently come to realize that I just don't dig that genre on its own merits (a lot of highly regarded power pop records strike me as too one-dimensional to even rate as really good rock records, and although a lot of my favorite albums and bands qualify as "power pop", they almost all have more than that to their credit). And then there's hip-hop, which I like in its early forms and don't have much time for now... and it sure does seem like there were a lot more female rappers in the early days. By the same token, a lot of today's pop-punk isn't formally that much different from stuff that I loved in its original form, but I can't get past how all the bands are so frat-guy-acting. Comments? Particularly from those who enjoy one of these genres and dislike the other? Teh prog and teh metal, I mean. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:37:54 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) On 3/1/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > NP: "These Things" - She Wants Revenge, both loving and hating it Please end up hating it! Go on back to Sigur Ros... it's all good... they're really Scandinavian and stuff! Am I correct in thinking that SWR was eventually acknowleged by all as the scam that it was? Listening to Nic Harcourt interview them, he sounded so embarassed to be presenting them I could swear I almost heard his thoughts echoing after each answer: "Holy shit, I really got conned this time... how am I going to rehabilitate my image after this one? I've been used, man, used!" He sounded pretty damned uncomfortable, especially when talking about the Fred Durst connection. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:05:50 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Why can't Johnny like prog? On 3/1/07, Rex wrote: > > > > But I also noticed something else, leading me to a theory: I only see one > record here with any contributions from a female musician... very much a > boy's club, prog, sorta like metal. And I don't like metal, either. > Coincidence? I dunno, never thought about it before, but here's a new > theory about my musical tastes: the genres that feel like "boys' clubs" > just don't appeal to me, in part, because that disproportionate lack of a > feminine voice doesn't reflect the adult world as I know it, and so these > genres feel "juvenile" to me. That tracks with both genres' > supernatural/fantasy/sci-fi/epic trappings, too, and the tendency to favor > technique over emotion (allowing you to argue about your favorite > musicians' > skills as if they were athletes), and in the case of metal, outright > misogyny. Hmmm. That could explain a thing or two about what's > offputting > to me here. Preliminarily, I think you're onto something - although I like (some) prog but don't like (nearly all) metal. The one record (that I can recall) with contributions from a woman is Renaissance, whose female member is a vocalist (and - someone correct me if my memory's wrong - not an instrumentalist) - which is, of course, a traditional role for a female musician. What's interesting is that when you take some stereotypical prog signifiers - - that supernatural/sci-fi stuff, sort of a quasi-medievalist worldview, instrumental virtuosity - and ask, what female musicians fit that bill, you come up with folks like Joanna Newsom, Kate Bush, maybe Mary Timony - none of whom (except maybe Kate Bush) is regarded much as being prog. For that matter, if you look at her odd chords and occasional predilection for weirdo rhythms and melody lines, there's even a slight whiff of progginess to Kristin Hersh's work, particularly early on. Or PJ Harvey's bizarro time signatures in some of her early work... But I suspect a search on "prog" and any of those women's names would come up fairly slight - amusingly, slighter than "prog" and "Pink Floyd" whose music really has very little to do with most ideas of prog (except epicness and a sort of artiness - but they were never into instrumental virtuosity for its own sake, and while they're all good players, none of them seems like a virtuoso). It's also true that (okay, someone's gonna hit me) the genres you list tend to have a large fan-base among adolescent males...which is kinda unsurprising, given the lyrical view and sort of escapist aesthetic often predominant. Kinda like the well-known criticism of _Lord of the Rings_ - that there simply are no women there (the females there seem more symbolic than actual women). The movies tried to correct that a bit - particularly with Eowyn, who was pretty cool. And my guess is LOTR fandom correlates pretty positively with both prog fandom and metal fandom (particularly prog fandom). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:17:23 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Why can't Johnny like prog? Rex says: > I dunno, never thought about it before, but here's a new > theory about my musical tastes: the genres that feel like "boys' clubs" > just don't appeal to me, in part, because that disproportionate lack of a > feminine voice doesn't reflect the adult world as I know it, and so these > genres feel "juvenile" to me. I am guessing you and I are in different fields ;) xo Lauren, "Trekkie", GNU fan, prog rock not so much - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:20:28 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) Rex says: > Am I correct in thinking that SWR was eventually acknowleged by all as the > scam that it was? Listening to Nic Harcourt interview them, he sounded so > embarassed to be presenting them I could swear I almost heard his thoughts > echoing after each answer: "Holy shit, I really got conned this time... how > am I going to rehabilitate my image after this one? I've been used, man, > used!" He sounded pretty damned uncomfortable, especially when talking > about the Fred Durst connection. You say this like it's a bad thing! xo Lauren P.S. When Sigur Ros videos "feature" Shirley Manson, they will get my attention as well. P.P.S. Plus look at these guys. They're like an outtake from a Cure song: http://us.ent1.yimg.com/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/030/929/30929527.jpg - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:35:40 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog >>On 2/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: >> >> >>It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or even >>like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. I still >>have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the cover on it. >Wow, I have exactly none of these. Honestly, while I do think of myself as >not a fan of teh prog, I also know that the definition is hazy enough that >some of what I like is thought of as at least proggish in some corners, so >I >expected to have at least one or two of these, but... no. >It strikes me as the kind of list that's conspicuously generous to 2nd and >3rd tier contendors because it doesn't allow for more than one record per >artist... I mean, don't the five or six best-loved prog bands really claim >two or three masturpieces each? That seem kind of endemic to the genre. >- -Rex I have one -- the Marillion (which, I must admit, I am surprised to see so high on the list). I bought it cheap and secondhand for the more pop-ish songs "Kayleigh" and "Lavender"...and I've always been sympathetic to (and just never got) #1...and also do have some Belew/Levin-era KC and own (and have always luvvvvvved) Tull's "Songs From the Wood" ever since it got heavy FM radio play back in the original-release day (talk about more folkish than anything else...). And Rex's point seems really spot-on: Even though I'm no fan of teh Rush, etc. (sorry, Mr. Wells), it seems that multiple Rush, Yes, ELP, KC, etc. could be listed, rather than some of the more semi-obscure (even to me, who mostly lived through this era) bands and elpees on the list. ...Then again, as I often find myself telling my girlfriend these days (about seemingly anything semi-current), perhaps I just wasn't in the target audience (then, either)... Michael (You can't spell "Leppo" without "ELP") Sweeney Chicago _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more.then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:45:52 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > >> > I think Sigur Ros rock. >> That's because they do. It's a simple, verifiable fact. > But is it falsifiable? ;) Only by people who suck and are mean. Stewart (it's snowing like a bastard here!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:33:31 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others/25 Prog albums On 25/02/07, Rex wrote: > > On 2/24/07, Marc Holden wrote: > > > >Wow. And here I am a soccer aka football fan. > > >I bought English Settlement when it came out > > >('83? '82?) and wore the grooves out of it. I > > >thought that the idea of the world being the > > >shape of the NFL pigskin was cute and novel, > > >and ever since, that's what I have pictured in > > >my mind. > > > > > > I had the same sort of experience about a year or so ago while listening > > to > > The Jam song "Pretty Green" for what was probably well over the 100th > > time. > > "I've got a pocket full of pretty green > > I'm gonna put it in the fruit machine..." > > > I don't even wanna tell you how recently I learned what "All Mod Cons" > really meant. Mortifying. One that took me forever to get is the glorious double-meaning of the XTC line (from "No language in our lungs"): "I would have made this instrumental but the words got in the way." Instrumental meaning both 'without words' and 'contributing decisively to something'. "Marc Holden" a dit: >Still home in time for another beer before bedtime, Marc Beers before bedtime? Only a couple of letters away from joining the Costello thread, there... On 3/1/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > Rex: > > >It strikes me as the kind of list that's conspicuously generous to 2nd > and 3rd tier contendors because it doesn't allow for more than one > record per artist... I mean, don't the five or six best-loved prog bands > really claim two or three m>asturpieces each? That seem kind of endemic > to the genre. > > Good point Rex. I would dump Tull's "Thick as a Brick". "Stand Up" and > "Benefit" by Tull are much better albums. Although I like some of the > songs on "Aqualung", the band lost something after bassist Glenn Cornick > left after "Benefit". Okay, I'll admit it - I have six of these, plus part of one on a "best of" album (Focus). I agree that TaaB is far from Tull's best, but - as pointed out - it is one which best first into the "Prog" pigeonhole. What I want to know, as often is the case, is how come Pink Floyd are never grouped in with the Prog bands - is there anything remotely *un*prog about DSotM or WYWH? I' d also have liked to have seen Jade warrior on the list, but that's more a personal vote than any recognition that they are "top 25" material. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:02:46 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: In a moment of weakness... Hi Fegs, * U.S. Fegs * ...I am offering three folks onlist with U.S. postal addresses (sad to say, I only like to help Americans)** a free copy of Mr. Tews' recent 2-DVD set of Robyn TV appearance and videos. I hate that expression "pay it forward" but only because I'm a cynical, grumpy East-coaster. Nevertheless, I make my offer in appreciation of Butterking / Bayard / Scott (eskimospy) and Mr. Tews for their wonderful generosity in sharing the archives of Robyn Hitchcock's past. E-mail me offlist with your information - first three e-mails received are a go - and I will post onlist when the offer is up. xo Lauren ** that was a joke. If you are overseas, I will send you a copy, but I would prefer it to be only one overseas person with a burner who will share with other nearby addresses. I know there are various countries represented on FegList, so if I happen to get many overseas requests, I will try to organize something more reasonable than my paying for postage for multiple overseas packages. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:24:50 -0500 From: "Mark P" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog Glaring omissions indeedy! Some of what those compilers consider "prog", I dunno... I'm down w/that Arrrrrrrrrrrgus namecheck though, Wishbone Ash were cuspid prog, yeah. Don't own anything past the latter 70s myself but I own most everything up to that on the list. Saw PFM open for Foghat. Saw UK w/Holdsworth and Bruford but thought the Danger Money/Bozzio/three piece incarnation was most excellent too. Never considered Jethro Tull or Kansas prog bands per-se. Personal picciness there I guess hence my taking that list not at all too seriously. STILL think G-Giant's In A Glass House is a MASTERVERK though. One of my fave albums -genre be damned!!!- to this day! What else, I dunno.... IGM's parameters o'prog are by far more vast than my own. Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards and ANYTHING by Saga as honorable mentions ...puhleeeeeze! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:10:54 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: In a moment of weakness...OFFER CLOSED Hi Fegs, I received three responses, so offer is now closed. Await my next moment of weakness. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:39:04 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others/25 Prog albums On 3/1/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > What I want to know, as often is the case, is how come > Pink Floyd are never grouped in with the Prog bands - is there > anything remotely *un*prog about DSotM or WYWH? Ah, you'll have to talk to Jeffrey about that one... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:45:14 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Why can't Johnny like prog? On 3/1/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > > I am guessing you and I are in different fields ;) Mine's pretty nerdy, sorta male-dominated, but I live with females and more females, and my friends run about even m/f, so those are my touchstones. xo > Lauren, "Trekkie", GNU fan, prog rock not so much I've known a lot of female Trekkies, for some reason... - -Rex - -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:26:32 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Prog Rock * The only one of those I have got is Soft Machine 2, and that didn't even make the top 25. I might have a copy of Camembert Electrique, but it isn't a patch on Angel's Egg. - - Mike 'not terribly prog but I did once meet Christian Vander' Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:39:52 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Why can't Johnny like prog? Jeff wrote: >It's also true that (okay, someone's gonna hit me) the genres you list tend to have a large fan-base among adolescent males...which is kinda unsurprising, given the lyrical view and sort of escapist aesthetic often predominant. Kinda like the well-known criticism of _Lord of the Rings_ - that there simply are no women there (the females there seem more symbolic than actual women). The movies tried to correct that a bit - - particularly with Eowyn, who was pretty cool. My favorite moment in Lord of the Rings is when Eowyn is rushing towards Rivendale on her horse with Frodo, weaving between the trees and trying to shake off the Black Riders. Then she whispers some elvish to the horse, which finds more speed, and sprints ahead. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:09:54 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: the top 25 albums in prog I like seeing Caravan on the list, though I'm a little more partial to "In the Land of Grey and Pink" (public kudos to Daryl for getting me a cd copy). Somewhere I have a tape of John Wesley Harding and Dag Juhlin doing Caravan's "Golf Girl" and Wes' "Goth Girl" back-to-back at Schuba's. Hopefully for the only time ever. Saw Marillion open for Rush, I think it was on the '84 tour. They sucked. As to Yes, I might chose TORMATO over CLOSE TO THE EDGE for sheer progginess but that's six of one, as they say. MJB, Detroit division: > My favorite moment in Lord of the Rings is when Eowyn is rushing towards Rivendale on her horse with Frodo Except that was Arwen (in a heavily modified role). JRRT was something of a cloistered don, was he not? The roles of women are not only few, but poorly fleshed out...almost as if he didn't know much about females to begin with. Michael "this weather is making me sick division" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:15:20 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: The European Feglist RH TV Tree thingy-wotsit Thanks to the generosity of Ed, I can offer this to, ooh, let's say... half a dozen of you? (Yes, that's a nice round figure...) Obviously, Euro-Fegs preferred but "have DVDs, will send anywhere" if needed. Form an orderly (offlist) queue, and no pushing! (it's a very nice compilation, too - you'll like it...) c* On 02/03/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Hi Fegs, > > * U.S. Fegs * > > ...I am offering three folks onlist with U.S. postal addresses (sad to > say, I only like to help Americans)** a free copy of Mr. Tews' recent > 2-DVD set of Robyn TV appearance and videos. > > I hate that expression "pay it forward" but only because I'm a > cynical, grumpy East-coaster. Nevertheless, I make my offer in > appreciation of Butterking / Bayard / Scott (eskimospy) and Mr. Tews > for their wonderful generosity in sharing the archives of Robyn > Hitchcock's past. > > E-mail me offlist with your information - first three e-mails received > are a go - and I will post onlist when the offer is up. > > xo > Lauren > > ** that was a joke. If you are overseas, I will send you a copy, but > I would prefer it to be only one overseas person with a burner who > will share with other nearby addresses. I know there are various > countries represented on FegList, so if I happen to get many overseas > requests, I will try to organize something more reasonable than my > paying for postage for multiple overseas packages. > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:20:36 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: the top 25 albums in prog MJB, Detroit division: >> My favorite moment in Lord of the Rings is when Eowyn is rushing towards Rivendale on her horse with Frodo Mr. Wells: >Except that was Arwen (in a heavily modified role). JRRT was something of a cloistered don, was he not? The roles of women are not only few, but poorly fleshed out...almost as if he didn't know much about females to begin with. Of course it was!!! Sorry, I am all keyed up for a job interview this afternoon and I made the final cut. MJB NP The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:47:55 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: Why can't Johnny like prog? On 3/2/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > My favorite moment in Lord of the Rings is when Eowyn is rushing towards > Rivendale on her horse with Frodo, weaving between the trees and trying > to shake off the Black Riders. Then she whispers some elvish to the > horse, which finds more speed, and sprints ahead. Sorry, that was Arwyn not Eowyn in that scene. Jason, King of Nerds ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:32:08 +0000 From: matt sewell Subject: RE: the top 25 albums in prog No way! ISTR IQ went well downhill after PN left... oooh... terrible memories of an album in the late 80s... Nomzamo? Jesus riverdancing Christ in a spandex jumpsuit... so Pete is back with them eh? Gotta be good news. I remember loving Tales Of The Lush Attic back when I was a bedroom-ridden teen, but I wonder what I'd think of 'em nowadays...? Lamb LDOB in the top slot? One word: ENO! Cheers Matt Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:05:38 +0000From: craigie@gmail.comTo: matt_sewell@hotmail.comSubject: Re: the top 25 albums in progCC: softboygirl@gmail.com; fegmaniax@smoe.org I *know* IQ! I've been friends with Peter Nicholls for many many years (we met in 1977, queueing for Peter Gabriel tickets, if you *must* know...) Peter was the guy responsible for all their covers too. Until he left, and now, since he's been back... I first saw them 25 years ago... in a tiny club. where I also saw the Chameleons (UK if you're in the States), Marillion, The Church, REM, The Long Ryders, jason & The Scorchers, Red Guitars, Perspex Spangles etc etc and I own four off the winning list and three off the runner-ups... Still, if you want to find a Prince, you have to kiss some progs, I guess... c* On 01/03/07, matt sewell wrote: Well No.3 (666 by Aphrodite's Child) is pretty bloody amazing if you ask me - -Greek prog? Oh yeah... and The Four Horsemen is definitely Demis Roussos' finest hour! Also great to see Phallus Dei in there - Amon Duul II are apersonal fave, though I'd direct ADII virgins towards Yeti...Also *whispers* I did once have a soft spot for IQ... I blame Nigel Powell... CheersMAtt> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:20:36 -0500> From: softboygirl@gmail.com> To:fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog> > michael wells says:> > As Gene and I drool offlist over theupcoming Rush album, there comes to> > light a new list to fulminate over: Despite a couple of notable omissions> > and one glaring mis-rank, aninteresting selection nonetheless. Torpedoes> > away!> > >http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html > > It's reassuring to knowthat only prog rock album that I love or even> like hit the big #1. Gabrielputs some punk into prog rock. I still> have my ancient homemade t-shirt thathas a print of the cover on it.> > xo> > P.S. Okay that was wrong - - truth betold, I am fond of #2 as well.> But really, that's it!> > -- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------> "People with opinions just go around bothering one another."> > - The Buddha_________________________________________________________________Discov er the new Windows Vistahttp://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE-- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wl mailtagline ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:59:54 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Eb MIA? Did I not get the memo about Eb taking a break from fegmaniax? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #75 *******************************