From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #74 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 1 2007 Volume 16 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #72 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #72 [Rex ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #72 [2fs ] the top 25 albums in prog ["michael wells" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others [craigie* ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] The Who, just got in from... ["Marc Holden" ] re: costello show ["Marc Holden" ] Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [craigie* ] Sheep's eyes [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Little Hands of Concrete [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] NEW on DIME: (DVD) Robyn Hitchcock and The Egytpians - 1985--11-20 - India [wojbearpig ] "Walking on Sunshine" moment ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) [Rex ] RE: the top 25 albums in prog ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: the top 25 albums in prog [The Great Quail ] Proggy went a-courtin' (for the crimson king, presumably) [2fs James says: > > Hm... not convinced - it seems to have Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, > > bridge, chorus, half-verse, though the flow between them seems a > > little odd. I will say though that it is the RH song which to me > > sounds most like Syd Barrett - are you a Barrett fan? > >For a RH fan, I have been pretty ignorant of Barrett's work. I've had >"The Madcap Laughs" for quite awhile, but only recently got "Barrett". > I've always liked what I've heard. Are there any particular songs >you're thinking of? not really - I'm not a huge Barrett fam myself, and don't know much of his solo work well at all. It's just a general sort of feel to the way the melody and rhythm go. Hopefully there are others here who'll be able to confirm or deny any similarity. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:27:32 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #72 On 2/28/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > not really - I'm not a huge Barrett fam myself, and don't know much > of his solo work well at all. It's just a general sort of feel to the > way the melody and rhythm go. Hopefully there are others here who'll > be able to confirm or deny any similarity. My feeling is that not so much "Satellite" but "Agony of Pleasure" from the same record is Robyn's most overtly Syd-like tune. "Eye" certainly has the vibe all over it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:05:01 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #72 On 2/28/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:16:53 -0500 > >From: "Lauren Elizabeth" > >Subject: Re: Beyond Belief > > > >xo > >Lauren, wondering what time it is in New Zealand > > you're at -5, at the moment we're at +13 (still on summer time), so > we're 18 hours ahead. You must be on the east coast of the US > somewhere. When you sent that message it would have been 7.16 am the > next day here. What this means, of course, is that in terms of clock time for most of us, every message from James is...a message from the future! Desperately trying to be vaguely on-topic... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:49:22 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: the top 25 albums in prog As Gene and I drool offlist over the upcoming Rush album, there comes to light a new list to fulminate over: Despite a couple of notable omissions and one glaring mis-rank, an interesting selection nonetheless. Torpedoes away! http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:20:36 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog michael wells says: > As Gene and I drool offlist over the upcoming Rush album, there comes to > light a new list to fulminate over: Despite a couple of notable omissions > and one glaring mis-rank, an interesting selection nonetheless. Torpedoes > away! > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or even like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. I still have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the cover on it. xo P.S. Okay that was wrong - truth be told, I am fond of #2 as well. But really, that's it! - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:56:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > michael wells says: > > As Gene and I drool offlist over the upcoming Rush album, there > > comes to light a new list to fulminate over: Despite a couple of > > notable omissions and one glaring mis-rank, an interesting > > selection nonetheless. Torpedoes away! > > > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html > > It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or > even like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. > I still have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the > cover on it. > > xo > > P.S. Okay that was wrong - truth be told, I am fond of #2 as well. > But really, that's it! I own none, and the top two are the only ones I've ever contemplated (and will probably get to at some point). On the other hand, you look at their punk list, and the word Buzzcocks is completely absent, which would make it clear you shouldn't trust these assholes about anything. > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha > "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:37:37 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others which meaning? the *original* one or the Weller one? c* On 25/02/07, Rex wrote: > > On 2/24/07, Marc Holden wrote: > > > >Wow. And here I am a soccer aka football fan. > > >I bought English Settlement when it came out > > >('83? '82?) and wore the grooves out of it. I > > >thought that the idea of the world being the > > >shape of the NFL pigskin was cute and novel, > > >and ever since, that's what I have pictured in > > >my mind. > > > > > > I had the same sort of experience about a year or so ago while listening > > to > > The Jam song "Pretty Green" for what was probably well over the 100th > > time. > > "I've got a pocket full of pretty green > > I'm gonna put it in the fruit machine..." > > > I don't even wanna tell you how recently I learned what "All Mod Cons" > really meant. Mortifying. > > -Rex > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? Tom Clark wrote: > This is what iPods are for, my friends. Subscribe to the podcasts > via iTunes, plug in your iPod, et voila. I know it sounds like > shameless promotion, but it's a relatively smooth experience. > Currently my commute consists of "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me", > "Filmspotting", and Harry Shearer's "Le Show". Exactly, although I can't listen to Le Show that way since my iRiver doesn't let you fast forward with the track and while I like the show generally, some of Harry's pre-recorded bits are wa-a-a-ay too damn long. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:17:13 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: The Lives of Others Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, ken ostrander wrote: > > all of these armies that support brutal regimes or perpetrate > > unspeakable atrocities must be made up of people who believe that > > what they are doing is right. or else, we're taking > > sociopathology on a massive scale; which seems just as likely. > > i don't think the ends ever > > I vote widespread sociopathology. Self-preservation. Better the brutality be aimed at someone else than at you. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:54:40 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Jeff Dwarf > Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > michael wells says: > > > As Gene and I drool offlist over the upcoming Rush album, there > > > comes to light a new list to fulminate over: Despite a couple of > > > notable omissions and one glaring mis-rank, an interesting > > > selection nonetheless. Torpedoes away! > > > > > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html > > > > It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or > > even like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. > > I still have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the > > cover on it. > > > > xo > > > > P.S. Okay that was wrong - truth be told, I am fond of #2 as well. > > But really, that's it! > > > I own none, and the top two are the only ones I've ever contemplated > (and will probably get to at some point). On the other hand, you look > at their punk list, and the word Buzzcocks is completely absent, > which would make it clear you shouldn't trust these assholes about > anything. > The list is shite without Wishbone Ash - Argus MJ Bachman NP Kate Rusby - The Girl Who Couldn't Fly ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:29:07 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: The Who, just got in from... Are they still "The Who"? Probably not. Are they still worth seeing? Oh yeah! Oh fuck, yeah! Still home in time for another beer before bedtime, Marc The fact of the matter is, I'm fucking brilliant. Not 'was' brilliant. 'Am' brilliant. Pete Townshend ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:13:59 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: costello show Mike Hooker said: >i've seen elvis costello many times, in many of his >different "configurations" . i think it was 2 summers >ago, he did central park with emmylou harris. its was >about 90 degrees at nite, the humidity was 1 % >short of rain. he wore a suit and played his ass off. >at the end of each song , he would extend his arm >straight out and down , and i swear , a gallon or so >of sweat would pour out the end of the sleeve like >a fire hose. I waited around before a sound check the meet Elvis & the Attractions back in 1994, in Mesa, Arizona, at an outdoor amphitheatre. Even though it was only April 17th, it was over 100 degrees out (the day before was the earliest 100 degree day in the '90s). The rest of the band was dressed for summer weather, and still looked like they were suffering a bit. Sure enough, Elvis showed up in a suit. He seemed glad to sign my fold-out Armed Forces album and poster, but asked if I would come into the backstage area so he could be in the shade. It was amazing that he made it through the afternoon and evening without having heat stroke. By the end of the summer, 100 F feels like a spring day, but before you adjust, it is a bit hot. Marc but it's a dry heave... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:09:14 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) Why do I always feel so out of my depth and WAY out of touch on this list??? I'm not a musician. I think the greatest hits of the 1200s are hot. I travel too much and I buy only ethnic music when I travel. I have no faves from 2006. I missed the 80s and most of the 90s (musically) except Talking Heads, Nick Cave and Robyn. I only get turned on to some pretty esoteric music through musician friends, and even then I fall back on old faves (think Leonard Cohen and Nick Cave). I think Sigur Ros rock. But I have my April tix for RH and gang at Slims and this time I am bringing my nephew to start him on the feg path. And the hottest music I discovered this year is Martina Topley-Bird. The only show I attended live was Massive Attack at the Greek in Berkeley (with said nephew, the one with dreads to his waist), So Sue me. I'm still a feg. Barely. Be Seeing You, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:42:21 +0000 From: matt sewell Subject: RE: the top 25 albums in prog Well No.3 (666 by Aphrodite's Child) is pretty bloody amazing if you ask me - Greek prog? Oh yeah... and The Four Horsemen is definitely Demis Roussos' finest hour! Also great to see Phallus Dei in there - Amon Duul II are a personal fave, though I'd direct ADII virgins towards Yeti... Also *whispers* I did once have a soft spot for IQ... I blame Nigel Powell... Cheers MAtt > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:20:36 -0500> From: softboygirl@gmail.com> To: fegmaniax@smoe.org> Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog> > michael wells says:> > As Gene and I drool offlist over the upcoming Rush album, there comes to> > light a new list to fulminate over: Despite a couple of notable omissions> > and one glaring mis-rank, an interesting selection nonetheless. Torpedoes> > away!> > > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html> > It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or even> like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. I still> have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the cover on it.> > xo> > P.S. Okay that was wrong - truth be told, I am fond of #2 as well.> But really, that's it!> > -- > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------> "People with opinions just go around bothering one another."> > - The Buddha _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:05:38 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog I *know* IQ! I've been friends with Peter Nicholls for many many years (we met in 1977, queueing for Peter Gabriel tickets, if you *must* know...) Peter was the guy responsible for all their covers too. Until he left, and now, since he's been back... I first saw them 25 years ago... in a tiny club. where I also saw the Chameleons (UK if you're in the States), Marillion, The Church, REM, The Long Ryders, jason & The Scorchers, Red Guitars, Perspex Spangles etc etc and I own four off the winning list and three off the runner-ups... Still, if you want to find a Prince, you have to kiss some progs, I guess... c* On 01/03/07, matt sewell wrote: > > Well No.3 (666 by Aphrodite's Child) is pretty bloody amazing if you ask > me - > Greek prog? Oh yeah... and The Four Horsemen is definitely Demis Roussos' > finest hour! Also great to see Phallus Dei in there - Amon Duul II are a > personal fave, though I'd direct ADII virgins towards Yeti... > > Also *whispers* I did once have a soft spot for IQ... I blame Nigel > Powell... > > Cheers > MAtt > > > > > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:20:36 -0500> From: softboygirl@gmail.com> To: > fegmaniax@smoe.org> Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog> > michael > wells > says:> > As Gene and I drool offlist over the > upcoming Rush album, there comes to> > light a new list to fulminate over: > Despite a couple of notable omissions> > and one glaring mis-rank, an > interesting selection nonetheless. Torpedoes> > away!> > > > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html> > It's reassuring to know > that only prog rock album that I love or even> like hit the big #1. > Gabriel > puts some punk into prog rock. I still> have my ancient homemade t-shirt > that > has a print of the cover on it.> > xo> > P.S. Okay that was wrong - truth > be > told, I am fond of #2 as well.> But really, that's it!> > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------> "People with opinions > just > go around bothering one another."> > - The Buddha > _________________________________________________________________ > Discover the new Windows Vista > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:31:15 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Sheep's eyes I hadn't spotted that either! Never underestimate Vivian's bad taste... Cheers - - Hubert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:24:53 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Little Hands of Concrete Quoting craigie* : > SLS [Stiffs Live Stiffs] tour was a very hit and miss affair, with > some nights > being spot on, and > others so-so... I saw Armed Forces w/ Hell (and John Cooper-Clarke) and it > was a great tour... despite (or maybe *because* of ?) the alleged > alcohol/drug intake... * Weirdly, the article in Mojo about the Stiffs tour omitted the Bath University show; presumably it was slotted in at the last minute. I was in full Dave and Nick mode at that time, so I especially liked 'Heart of the City', but all the other acts were on top form that night: Wreckless doing 'Semaphore Signals', Elvis doing 'I just don't know what to do with myself'; and of course Ian Dury and the entire band and the entire chorus playing 'Sex' and 'Drugs' and 'Rock' and 'Roll'. Why didn't I buy all those badges? > > The Confederates shows with James Burton were uniformly excellent. Sucha > great band all round, and a wonderful setlist. EC's take on Buddy Holly's > True Love ways still makes me shudder. * Was that the gig where he played 'River Boat just a keep on churning'? I love Lee Dorsey and all his works. >> PS I'm still not quite sure why people don't like Katrina and the Waves >> 'Walking on Sunshine' (mind you, I'm in a Tony Burrows phase...) > > It's just *too* sweet. And I'm a bit too old for sweets, these days. * When you get to your second childhood like I have, you may discover the delights of 'Storm In A Teacup' by the Fortunes, 'What have they done to the rain?' by the Searchers, and 'When You Are A King' by White Plains. - - Mike Godwin PS My favourite Costello songs are 'King's Shilling', 'Alison', 'Accidents Will Happen', 'Clubland' and 'Shipbuilding'...but there are masses of others too. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:48:27 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > I think Sigur Ros rock. That's because they do. It's a simple, verifiable fact. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:40:05 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog > > michael wells says: > > > > http://music.ign.com/articles/767/767201p1.html I have 8 of the 25, plus 1 of the honorable mentions. And I will buy more, dammit. - -- Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:52:43 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: NEW on DIME: (DVD) Robyn Hitchcock and The Egytpians - 1985--11-20 - India http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=136326&hit=1 A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 136326 Title: (DVD) Robyn Hitchcock and The Egytpians - 1985--11-20 - Indianapolis Size: 3.87 GB Category: Pop Uploaded by: terrapin5000 Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians November 20, 1985 The Patio, Indianapolis Video (from IFOEdit): MPEG-2 720X480 (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) Audio (from IFOEdit): (Linear PCM) 2ch 48kbps 16bps Another vid from the Bayard/Scott/Butterking connection (with more to come). As with the others, I give the video quality about a B-, and the audio quality about a B. Setlist: Sometimes I Wish I Was A Pretty Girl Kingdom Of Love America The Cars She Used To Drive My Wife And My Dead Wife Only The Stones Remain Queen Of Eyes The Man With The Lightbulb Head Strawberry Mind Acid Bird Brenda's Iron Sledge Heaven Uncorrected Personality Traits Listening To The Higsons Bells Of Rhymney Note that the running order is listed incorrectly in the DVD menu. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:40:00 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: reap Arthur M. Schlesinger, American historian, political commentator, author of The Vital Center, and adviser to President Kennedy, age 89. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/01/schlesinger.obit.ap/index.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6407011.stm ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:32:57 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: "Walking on Sunshine" moment Mike Godwin says: > PS I'm still not quite sure why people don't like Katrina and the Waves > 'Walking on Sunshine' (mind you, I'm in a Tony Burrows phase...) I just finished watching "The Office" Series 1 (I would feel slow for being such a latecomer, but watching the series is so fun that I'm only happy for having "new"episodes to still watch.) At any rate, there's a party at the end of the episode. It kind of has the same feeling as a prom - people know each other but don't really want to be hanging out, complete with outdated music. And at one point as the camera follows David making his way across the room, the musical selection is, indeed, "Walking on Sunshine". xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:56:38 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Out of my depth - 2006 review (0% RH) On 3/1/07, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > Why do I always feel so out of my depth and WAY out of touch on this > list?? [...] So Sue me. > I'm still a feg. > Barely. I dunno, nothing you mention here seems all that unfeggy to me! The variety of other stuff that folks are into here aside from "Robyn-fan-median" stuff (BarrettPythonPsychBeatles'80'setc.) is what makes it interesting to me (although it's cool to hear from people who are more into that stuff than most of my IRL friends). Plus, I've gone years at a time ignoring current music, and I will do so again in the future, I'm sure, and I spend more time tracking down old stuff than new. I could be wrong, but I tend to think that the avowed-hipster-count on the list is relatively low for such an affair. Old music is the new new music. Also, Evil is the new Bad. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:03:16 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 2/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or even > like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. I still > have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the cover on it. Wow, I have exactly none of these. Honestly, while I do think of myself as not a fan of teh prog, I also know that the definition is hazy enough that some of what I like is thought of as at least proggish in some corners, so I expected to have at least one or two of these, but... no. It strikes me as the kind of list that's conspicuously generous to 2nd and 3rd tier contendors because it doesn't allow for more than one record per artist... I mean, don't the five or six best-loved prog bands really claim two or three masturpieces each? That seem kind of endemic to the genre. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:43:49 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: the top 25 albums in prog - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:03 PM To: Lauren Elizabeth Cc: crustaceans ripped my flesh Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog On 2/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: >> >> >> It's reassuring to know that only prog rock album that I love or even >> like hit the big #1. Gabriel puts some punk into prog rock. I still >> have my ancient homemade t-shirt that has a print of the cover on it. Rex: >Wow, I have exactly none of these. Honestly, while I do think of myself as not a fan of teh prog, I also know that the >definition is hazy enough that some of what I like is thought of as at least proggish in some corners, so I expected to >have at least one or two of these, but... no. >It strikes me as the kind of list that's conspicuously generous to 2nd and 3rd tier contendors because it doesn't allow for more than one record per artist... I mean, don't the five or six best-loved prog bands really claim two or three m>asturpieces each? That seem kind of endemic to the genre. Good point Rex. I would dump Tull's "Thick as a Brick". "Stand Up" and "Benefit" by Tull are much better albums. Although I like some of the songs on "Aqualung", the band lost something after bassist Glenn Cornick left after "Benefit". MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:56:33 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Fwd: oh good sweet Lord Let's all spare a moment of silence for Miles during this painful time. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: miles.goosens@regions.com Please pass along this news to Feg... Here is the updated billing for Robyn's Nashville show on 3/18: Robyn Hitchcock & The Nashville Crawdads featuring Peter Buck & some Nashville pals I'm weeping openly. Why did I even bother to buy a ticket to this thing? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:24:13 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: the top 25 albums in prog > Wow, I have exactly none of these. I have them all, except for two: PFM and Angels in Heavy Soup. I actually have more than a few issues with their selections -- more issues than I have the energy to bring up. Still, it's nice to see prog make an IGN list. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:27:03 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Proggy went a-courtin' (for the crimson king, presumably) On 3/1/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > Rex: > > >It strikes me as the kind of list that's conspicuously generous to 2nd > and 3rd tier contendors because it doesn't allow for more than one > record per artist... I mean, don't the five or six best-loved prog bands > really claim two or three m>asturpieces each? That seem kind of endemic > to the genre. > > Good point Rex. I would dump Tull's "Thick as a Brick". "Stand Up" and > "Benefit" by Tull are much better albums. Although I like some of the > songs on "Aqualung", the band lost something after bassist Glenn Cornick > left after "Benefit". Except that neither _Stand Up_ nor _Benefit_ are remotely proggy. I mean unless you consider the mere presence of a flute to be a surefire prog-designator. Both are albums lay better claim to being jazzy and folky or poppy than proggy. I'd say the first place you can hear a definite prog influence in Jethro Tull is the middle section of "My Cod" - errr, "My God." The next few albums got proggier and proggier, and then from probably _Minstrel_ through _Heavy Horses_, the folk element became more pronounced (along with the prog) so that they almost sounded like a prog Fairport. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #74 *******************************