From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #71 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 26 2007 Volume 16 : Number 071 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? [2fs ] Re: Oscar time ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Oscar time ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Wheel of Fortune [Jeff Dwarf ] This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? [2fs ] Re: Oscar time ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Oscar time [2fs ] in the mail today [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Wheel of Fortune [Jeff Dwarf ] Nico [2fs ] Robyn says... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Nico [Rex ] Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? [Rex ] Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? [Tom Clark ] Re: The Day They Ate Brick ["Bri N" ] RE: BBQ trolleybus uptake ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: All Bangles, all the time (all...uh...over the place) [ken ostrander ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:05:54 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? On 2/26/07, Rex wrote: > > > While I adore the Decemberists, I think Sufjan is just OK. The only album > > of his I have is "Illinois," and although I like some of the individual > > tracks, altogether it's just too long and too fussy and too twee for my > > taste. > > > Oh, that "state album" schtick is another source of confusion for me as to > Mr. Sufjan's identity... is that the same album as "Come On Feel the > Illinoise", Yes. or was that somebody else's deal? I kind felt like John Linnell > doing the "song for every state" was enough... whole albums of the stuff > seems like overkill. I mean, make a record themed for a geographical area > if it moves you or you live there or recorded the record there, fine... > but > doing Delaware because it's next on the checklist seems less than > heartfelt. I really don't think he's ever intended to record them... I mean, especially given the way even small record companies work today, who's going to be able to release 50 albums? If he really were intending to do it, he'd probably be self-releasing them via the web. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:23:19 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Oscar time Hi Fegs, Rex says: > As much as I've read about the guy, I don't think I've knowingly heard any > of his music, and I get him completely confused with Devandra Banhardt (sp. > approx.), of whom the same thing can be said (the goofy names also > contribute to the confusion). The name is a problem for me as well. Words are not really my thing. Before the recent posts, the name registered as slight background noise and now I realize I wasn't even sure whether he was a person or a band. I usually don't bother to find out until I need to but really I should know better, having suffered the teenage humiliation of thinking Jethro Tull was a person. Also, for a bit, I also thought Aero Smith was a person (with "Aero" as kind of a druggie handle or nickname..."Air-O") The person/band confusion contributes to why I file my music by first letter instead of last name. I should probably know better than to be sharing such weaknesses on an internet mailing list, but I am, after all, only here for your amusement. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:26:32 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? Hi Fegs, 2fs says: > I really don't think he's ever intended to record them... I mean, especially > given the way even small record companies work today, who's going to be able > to release 50 albums? If he really were intending to do it, he'd probably be > self-releasing them via the web. On a vaguely-related note, does anyone listen to "This American Life"? How's that dishwasher guy who wanted to wash dishes in every state? Every time I manage to catch a bit of "This American Life" (which has not happened much in the last few years) I find myself missing all the times I forget to tune it. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:51:04 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others On 2/24/07, Brian Huddell wrote: > > Viv wrote: > > > > "So, I'm listening to Senses Working Overtime, and had a very > > odd moment when I realized that the line "and all the world is > > football-shaped" used to confuse me.... because I'd been > > thinking of an american football, which the world is not in fact shaped > > like. ONLY THIS MORNING did I consciously." > > It's also "biscuit-shaped", which I assume refers not to the vaguely > scone-like lumps of baked dough we see at breakfast and fried-chicken > restaurants, but to the flat circular thing we call a "cookie". "Some English MC's get it twisted, start sayin' cookies, instead of biscuits!" -so saith Lady Sovereign Anyway, yes, most of the time I like it when something that was previously confusing spontaneously becomes clear, but when it's something really _simple_, it makes me feel simple. Which, uh, I don't like all much. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:56:16 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Oscar time On 2/26/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Hi Fegs, > > The name is a problem for me as well. Words are not really my thing. > Before the recent posts, the name registered as slight background > noise and now I realize I wasn't even sure whether he was a person or > a band. I usually don't bother to find out until I need to but really > I should know better, having suffered the teenage humiliation of > thinking Jethro Tull was a person. Also, for a bit, I also thought > Aero Smith was a person (with "Aero" as kind of a druggie handle or > nickname..."Air-O") The person/band confusion contributes to why I > file my music by first letter instead of last name. In your defense, there seems to be an ever-increasing number of bands with person-sounding names, from Franz Ferdinand on down. I should probably know better than to be sharing such weaknesses on an > internet mailing list, but I am, after all, only here for your > amusement. At least it's reciprocal... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:59:14 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Oscar time On 2/26/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Hi Fegs, > Also, for a bit, I also thought > Aero Smith was a person (with "Aero" as kind of a druggie handle or > nickname..."Air-O") The person/band confusion contributes to why I > file my music by first letter instead of last name. > > I should probably know better than to be sharing such weaknesses on an > internet mailing list, but I am, after all, only here for your > amusement. No no no! "Aero Smith" is fantastic! Thanks for sharing your weakness- it's lovely! V. (busily formulating plans to start the band Aero Smith and the Druggies) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:06:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Wheel of Fortune 2fs wrote: > On 2/26/07, craigie* wrote: > > > > I saw EC do PopLife - It wasn't as good as I'd hoped, or as bad > > as I feared... > > > > But was certainly better than the mauling he gave it after the > > Purple Dwarf refused to let him release his studio version, > > which was reused as The Bridge I Burned on Extreme Honey... > > Ha - whereas I quite like "The Bridge I Burned." It was funny, > because in the notes on that one, he alludes to A Song that A > Someone would not let him use - I guessed the song correctly. I > didnt' know that he'd been covering it in concert. It wasn't the full song -- just an interpolation from it that was the, erm, bridge where he now has the quote from the Italian philospher who was too dead to prevent EC from using it (though the "Dig It!" remained). If it had just been a straight cover of "Poplife," the Purple Dwarf couldn't have done anything except cash the royalty checks. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:14:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Every time I manage to catch a bit of "This American Life" (which > has not happened much in the last few years) I find myself missing > all the times I forget to tune it. You can get the popcast via iTunes so that's not a problem.... "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:11 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? Jeff Dwarf says: > You can get the popcast via iTunes so that's not a problem.... Speaking of displaying weaknesses (now I'm having a replying-to-my-own-post moment to boot), I have this weird thing that I like to listen to radio broadcasts and TV shows "live" in the sense that I am way more likely to listen to or watch certain things on the radio or TV even if they are available otherwise. It's either old-fashioned or just silly...like it's more exciting because it's playing Right Now! even though it's not an actual live broadcast. "Car Talk" and "This American Life" fall into that category, even though I know damn well my happiness is directly proportional to time spent listening to "Car Talk". xo Lauren N.P. Pulp "Babies" (live) and wondering if Jarvis Cocker changed his name back to Jarvis Cocker or never actually changed it in the first place. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:08:34 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Oscar time On 2/26/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > On 2/26/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > Also, for a bit, I also thought > > Aero Smith was a person (with "Aero" as kind of a druggie handle or > > nickname..."Air-O") The person/band confusion contributes to why I > > file my music by first letter instead of last name. > > > No no no! "Aero Smith" is fantastic! Thanks for sharing your weakness- > it's > lovely! > > V. (busily formulating plans to start the band Aero Smith and the > Druggies) But that will interfere with *my* plans to start a postmodernist, gender- and sexuality-deconstructing act called "Eros Myth"... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:13:43 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? On 2/26/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Jeff Dwarf says: > > You can get the popcast via iTunes so that's not a problem.... > > Speaking of displaying weaknesses (now I'm having a > replying-to-my-own-post moment to boot), I have this weird thing that > I like to listen to radio broadcasts and TV shows "live" in the sense > that I am way more likely to listen to or watch certain things on the > radio or TV even if they are available otherwise. It's either > old-fashioned or just silly...like it's more exciting because it's > playing Right Now! even though it's not an actual live broadcast. For some reason, my mental concept of "being at the computer" really doesn't include sitting down and watching and/or listening to videos/streams, etc. I can have music playing in the background - but I rarely listen to streams or podcasts or the like, because I feel like I'm being asked at some level to sit there and pay attention - and I want to pay attention to other things (or, if it's a video or something, sit in a comfortable chair and watch it. Someone should invent a laptop-holder that could be placed conveniently in front of a person so they can be lazy in their recliner and not have to prop the laptop on their knees...). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:16:28 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Wheel of Fortune On 2/26/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > .. > > > > Ha - whereas I quite like "The Bridge I Burned." It was funny, > > because in the notes on that one, he alludes to A Song that A > > Someone would not let him use - I guessed the song correctly. I > > didnt' know that he'd been covering it in concert. > > It wasn't the full song -- just an interpolation from it that was > the, erm, bridge where he now has the quote from the Italian > philospher who was too dead to prevent EC from using it (though the > "Dig It!" remained). If it had just been a straight cover of > "Poplife," the Purple Dwarf couldn't have done anything except cash > the royalty checks. So a weird aspect of copyright law apparently is this: you can cover an artist's entire song, and so long as royalties are paid etc., the artist can't stop you...but you can't do just *part* of an artist's song? Or did Costello not want to bill the song as a medley and/or include Prince in the composer's credit? Because if not for that last bit, why *not* just do it and bill it that way: you're covering a song, but not all of it, but you're incorporating it as a medley in one of your own songs. If that's prohibited w/o permission but covering isn't, that's mighty strange... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:27:55 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Oscar time On 2/26/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > But that will interfere with *my* plans to start a postmodernist, gender- > and sexuality-deconstructing act called "Eros Myth"... You know what? I defer to your band. That's too cool. Or perhaps we could join forces and be Aero Smith and the Eros Myth...? Aero could be a Ziggy Stardust-type androgyne, and the Eros Myth his backing band of cross-dressing Greek gods. V. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:36:36 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Oscar time On 2/26/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > > On 2/26/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > > > But that will interfere with *my* plans to start a postmodernist, > > gender- > > and sexuality-deconstructing act called "Eros Myth"... > > > You know what? I defer to your band. That's too cool. > > Or perhaps we could join forces and be Aero Smith and the Eros Myth...? > Aero could be a Ziggy Stardust-type androgyne, and the Eros Myth his backing > band of cross-dressing Greek gods. > "Me and my Aero / Straighter than narrow..." Hmm - in the concept, we may have to alter that second line. Then again, what the hell does "straighter than narrow" mean? Harry, I'm looking at you. Oh wait, you're dead. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:41:10 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: in the mail today got the new robyn live EP CD today (already)


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Wheel of Fortune 2fs wrote: > So a weird aspect of copyright law apparently is this: you can > cover an artist's entire song, and so long as royalties are paid > etc., the artist can't stop you...but you can't do just *part* of > an artist's song? Or did Costello not want to bill the song as a > medley and/or include Prince in the composer's credit? The liner notes on the re-issued ATUB make it fairly clear it's the former. > Because if not for that last bit, why *not* just do it > and bill it that way: you're covering a song, but not all of it, > but you're incorporating it as a medley in one of your own songs. > > If that's prohibited w/o permission but covering isn't, that's > mighty strange... That seems to be the case, and yeah, it is. My amateur understanding is you can't even really change lyrics without permission, which is why Graham Gouldman could supposedly hold up [the] Pixies release their Spanish language version of "Evil Hearted You" until they corrected some of the grammar to his satisfaction. It seems like a lot of the problem is that when sampling started, rather than being pro-active and establishing some basic guideline rates, like they do for cover songs, so you end up with this hodgepodge of idiocy. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:06:46 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Nico Someone had asked about that new Nico release on Rhino - it's The Marble Index & Desertshore in a two-disc set along with lots of outtakes & alt versions. Here's Pitchfork's blurb: < http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/41341/Nico_Heads_to_The_Frozen_Borderline >. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:20:38 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Robyn says... "This is about two people who haven't been introduced yet...so we'll start with them. They're called, uh, Clint and Elaine. And they don't understand each other at all, which is why they're so deeply in love." - - from 1998-04-09, Cabaret Metro, Chicago, IL (with the Egyptians), introducing "Unsettled": xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:54:24 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Nico On 2/26/07, 2fs wrote: > > Someone had asked about that new Nico release on Rhino - it's The Marble > Index & Desertshore in a two-disc set along with lots of outtakes & alt > versions. This is a really vexing repackaging technique-- I mean, it's cool that you get both of those very great albums, and I have no problem with them being released as a twofer, shouldn't it be called "The Marble Index / Desertshore", or at least have that in the title somewhere? Admittedly, it only puzzles me for all of two seconds, and you can relabel them when you rip them to iTunes or whatever, but "The Marble Index" is, to me, a stone-cold classic (pun sadly intended) and both records should be taken in as albums. But I guess the idea is that if you're out there hunting for Nico solo records, you can be trusted as smart enough to work this out for yourself... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:01:24 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? On 2/26/07, 2fs wrote: > > > For some reason, my mental concept of "being at the computer" really > doesn't > include sitting down and watching and/or listening to videos/streams, etc. > I > can have music playing in the background - but I rarely listen to streams > or > podcasts or the like, because I feel like I'm being asked at some level to > sit there and pay attention - and I want to pay attention to other things > (or, if it's a video or something, sit in a comfortable chair and watch > it. I think a lot of people feel this way-- I sure do-- which is why iMovie is a sensible idea. I may just be old-fashioned, too, but in my mind it also has to do with (A) being basically chained to computer all day, I get sick of looking at the thing when I don't have to, and (B) at present, at least on all of the computers I encounter, most of this stuff is just either of shit quality or takes forever to buffer, and comes up in a tiny window, and it just doesn't feel like an art or entertainment experience that way... feels like taking home photocopies of the books the library won't let you check out, to keep even my metaphors in the old-fashioned idiom... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:20 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nico On 2/26/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 2/26/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > Someone had asked about that new Nico release on Rhino - it's The Marble > > Index & Desertshore in a two-disc set along with lots of outtakes & alt > > versions. > > > This is a really vexing repackaging technique-- I mean, it's cool that you > get both of those very great albums, and I have no problem with them being > released as a twofer, shouldn't it be called "The Marble Index / > Desertshore", or at least have that in the title somewhere? > I would much prefer that they had released it as a three-disc set (same price - the cost isn't in disc-manufcaturing anyway) with the original albums as a disc apiece and the third disc containing the bonus material. If all the bonus material fits on a single disc: each of the original CDs is pretty short (they'd fit together on a single CD, if I recall), so it may well be that putting all the bonus material on one CD is impossible. But if it is, that would have been the way to do it. Of course, blank discs cost so little when you buy in bulk: if you buy the set you can rip your own copy so-configured for, like a buck's worth of discs. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:33:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: This American Life Re: Sufjan Stevens - man or machine? On Feb 26, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Jeff Dwarf says: >> You can get the popcast via iTunes so that's not a problem.... > > Speaking of displaying weaknesses (now I'm having a > replying-to-my-own-post moment to boot), I have this weird thing that > I like to listen to radio broadcasts and TV shows "live" in the sense > that I am way more likely to listen to or watch certain things on the > radio or TV even if they are available otherwise. It's either > old-fashioned or just silly...like it's more exciting because it's > playing Right Now! even though it's not an actual live broadcast. > > "Car Talk" and "This American Life" fall into that category, even > though I know damn well my happiness is directly proportional to time > spent listening to "Car Talk". This is what iPods are for, my friends. Subscribe to the podcasts via iTunes, plug in your iPod, et voila. I know it sounds like shameless promotion, but it's a relatively smooth experience. Currently my commute consists of "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me", "Filmspotting", and Harry Shearer's "Le Show". - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:50:54 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #70 >That reminds me of this awesome ukelele rendition of "While My Guitar Gently >Weeps" - http://www.collegehumor.com/video:159572 (I don't know why it's on >a humor site - presumably it's the inherent novelty value of the ukelele.) ukelele covers and novelty do go together... and sometimes, if you're lucky, they reach the point where they work both as novelty parody and as "real" covers, such as the astonishing The Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain version of "Should I stay or should i go?" James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:06:54 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Beyond Belief grutness@slingshot.co.nz says: > Heh. You somehow manage to mention my two favourite EC songs... The > "odd structure" of Beyond Belief is its *lack* of structure - at > least in a traditional song sense. It is a narrative flow rather than > a traditional verse-chorus. You cannot even tell where the lines end > and start. I also love the chord change at "crocodile tears" and the > subtle changes of treatment on the vocals (Listen to the change > between "nervous tick..." and "...in a very fashionable", for > instance). The lyrics, are, of course, sublime. I was thinking about this song some more and then thought of RH's "Satellite". It's actually my favourite song of his. I always thought I liked it because it's so short and I miss it when it's over. But now that I'm thinking about it, it seems to have a weird structure that perhaps is not all that different from "Beyond Belief". xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:17:26 -0800 From: "Bri N" Subject: Re: The Day They Ate Brick > http://powerpoplovers.blogspot.com/2007/02/soft-boys-legendary-radar-sessions-1979.html > > THE SOFT BOYS - THE LEGENDARY RADAR SESSIONS (1979) Nuppy, do you run this site? First Bruce Woolley and now this... I'm quite sure my copy of ot came from you! Lotta good blogs out there. Lots of 'em. - -Rex - --------------- No no no. My vinyl transfer has bonus tracks! (Of course!) - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:58:21 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: BBQ trolleybus uptake Michael Bachman wrote: > On 2/26/07, Michael Wells wrote > > >> > >> I didn't follow the vegetarian thread, but if your tastes lie > towards > > >> roasted meat ...make sure Gene gives you directions to The Salt Lick > >> before you go. Their ribs rank among the five best things I have > ever > > >> put in my mouth. > > > Jeff came back with: > >Please, for the love of God, do not list the other four. > > I'm pretty much down to a fish only vegatarien like Robyn. My only meat > vice these days is a couple of slices of Canadian Bacon on Sunday > mornings. I do know a little bit about ribs though, and The Montgomery > Inn Ribs from Cincinnati rank real high in most peoples rib lists. I'd > had them a dozen times or so over the years. I'm not familiar with The > Salt Lick ribs. When in Seattle I highly recommend The Frontier Room for ribs. I've eaten ribs in TN, TX, GA, FL, and SC, and these are the best ribs I've ever had. They do a dry rub, so skip it if you only like wet BBQ. Compared to places like The Rendezvous in Memphis, however, we've got the best ones. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:48:36 -0800 (PST) From: ken ostrander Subject: Re: All Bangles, all the time (all...uh...over the place) > > But, as a semi-guilty pleasure that I listened to just the other nght > > (even BEFORE this Bangle-palooza broke out in Fegland), in "Eternal > > Flame" the "swoop" / change from the chorus (and also from the > > instrumental bridge) to "Say my name / sun shines through the rain" just > > about makes me swoon STILL now some 20+ years on. Every time, even if I > > just hear it at the supermarket, on the Muzak... > > Absolutely. It's just a great pop moment, and there's nothing wrong with > that. yeah, but when she tries to hit that high note the spell is broken (for me). - --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #71 *******************************