From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #67 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, February 24 2007 Volume 16 : Number 067 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: All Bangles, all the time (all...uh...over the place) ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Costello Top 5 ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others [Jill Brand ] a man walks down the street in a hat like that, you know he's not afraid of anything ["natalie jacobs" ] Re: Costello Top 5 [2fs ] Re: Costello Top 5 [2fs ] Re: Costello Top 5 [2fs ] Re: The Lives of Others [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Ca(g/l)e [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: a man walks down the street in a hat like that, you know he's not afraid of anything ["Miles Goosens" ] Jay Farrar Inaction Figure ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: allmusic.com mention ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: female vocalists ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Costello Top 5 ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: All Bangles, all the time (all...uh...over the place) [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:25:53 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: All Bangles, all the time (all...uh...over the place) On 2/24/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > -- Michael Sweeney is rumored to have mumbled on > 24. Februar 2007 06:31:42 +0000 regarding All Bangles, all the time > (all...uh...over the place): > > > But, as a semi-guilty pleasure that I listened to just the other nght > > (even BEFORE this Bangle-palooza broke out in Fegland), in "Eternal > > Flame" the "swoop" / change from the chorus (and also from the > > instrumental bridge) to "Say my name / sun shines through the rain" just > > about makes me swoon STILL now some 20+ years on. Every time, even if I > > just hear it at the supermarket, on the Muzak... > > Absolutely. It's just a great pop moment, and there's nothing wrong with > that. I'm gonna concur on this. Alls I had to do was hum it, and I got a little choked up. But then, I was in the wild throes of puberty when that song came out, so maybe it's just a sense memory. V. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:42:38 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Costello Top 5 Hi Fegs, vivien lyon says: > Beyond Belief is the song that made me a Costello fan. I still think it's > one of the best songs in his catalog, or any, really. It's really a stunning song. I've heard it so very many times and it continues to be a really exciting song to me. That's a weird word for a song, but that's the one I think of. I know for (perhaps a) fact that there are some musicians on the list and maybe they would be kind enough to step in and help. "Beyond Belief" has always struck me as having an unusual structure. I think it has something to do with a strange verse-chorus-verse structure or perhaps lack there of. One of my skills is some sort of intuition about patterns but if I don't have the proper language, it's more like "one of these things is not like the other" and that's the extent of it. Another EC song that stands out as unique is "Tokyo Storm Warning" which has kind of a circular or maybe spiral structure to me. I would be interested in someone better versed in music might attempt to articulate what I'm trying to say or hell, even has any idea what I'm trying to say. I would say "better articulate" but it would be difficult to not do better. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:17:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others Viv wrote: "So, I'm listening to Senses Working Overtime, and had a very odd moment when I realized that the line "and all the world is football-shaped" used to confuse me.... because I'd been thinking of an american football, which the world is not in fact shaped like. ONLY THIS MORNING did I consciously." Wow. And here I am a soccer aka football fan. I bought English Settlement when it came out ('83? '82?) and wore the grooves out of it. I thought that the idea of the world being the shape of the NFL pigskin was cute and novel, and ever since, that's what I have pictured in my mind. I may have to go back and reinvent my mental universe. This has happened with other songs (often Elvis Costello songs), when I think that the writer is oh, so, clever and then I find out that the expression in question is either a Britishism (or non-Americanism) or an expression that I don't know ("read me the riot act" comes to mind; so does "one over the eight"). To a completely different subject, go see The Lives of Others (Das Leben der Anderen) if it makes its way to your city or town. My husband (German through and through, though a US resident for almost 29 years) and I left the theater mute (we were mute; we didn't make the theater mute). I lived in West Germany from 1975-1978, and had quite a few friends (and a future sister-in-law) who were members of the DKP (the German Communist Party), which was the sister party to that of the East German government. All of them left the party as things about the government were spilling out in 1989 and 1990. I wonder what their reaction will be. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:39:14 -0600 From: "natalie jacobs" Subject: a man walks down the street in a hat like that, you know he's not afraid of anything > And I felt closer to him the minute I saw him in a Jayne hat. Hey, his > blog > url is in his sig file! I ain't stalkin'! > > The hero of Canton, that man they call Jeff! n., who has knitted not one but *two* Jayne hats (one for me, one for my sister) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:42:22 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others On 2/24/07, Jill Brand wrote: > > Wow. And here I am a soccer aka football fan. I bought English Settlement > when it came out ('83? '82?) and wore the grooves out of it. I thought > that the idea of the world being the shape of the NFL pigskin was cute and > novel, and ever since, that's what I have pictured in my mind. I may have > to go back and reinvent my mental universe. It'll be an incrementally better, more sensical universe than before. Every little bit helps. This has happened with other > songs (often Elvis Costello songs), when I think that the writer is oh, > so, clever and then I find out that the expression in question is either a > Britishism (or non-Americanism) or an expression that I don't know ("read > me the riot act" comes to mind; so does "one over the eight"). "But the one over the eight seems less like one and more like four." Oh what a great line. And what a great segue, given that that song (From a Whisper to a Scream, on Trust) features Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze, which I recently heard on the radio and had forgotten how good they can be. My very firstest boyfriend introduced me to their music, and so for a time my favorite bands were: The Monkees, Kansas, Squeeze, Jane's Addiction, and the Smiths. Bit of a weird combo, that. V. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:48:49 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On 2/24/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > >>>Kinda weird parenting there... Two local women have started a > feminist > erotic zine/website, and in an interview with one of them she mentioned > that > her stepfather worked in some capacity for like Penthouse or something and > had encouraged her in her interests in erotic writing and photography.<<< > > now i'm creeped out. But not an American girl. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:01:21 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Costello Top 5 On 2/24/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > > I know for (perhaps a) fact that there are some musicians on the list > and maybe they would be kind enough to step in and help. "Beyond > Belief" has always struck me as having an unusual structure. I think > it has something to do with a strange verse-chorus-verse structure or > perhaps lack there of. Yeah, basically it repeats verse after verse and doesn't bring what sounds like a chorus ("I've got a feeling / there's gonna be a lot of grief...") until the very end. Most songs feature choruses after each verse, more or less. One of my skills is some sort of intuition > about patterns but if I don't have the proper language, it's more like > "one of these things is not like the other" and that's the extent of > it. But it's good to know that non-musicians (at least some of them) are aware of these things...since musicians generally aren't writing only for other musicians, and if only other musicians heard their tricks, it'd be a bit of a drag. I've often wondered, for example, whether non-musicians hear the difference between a standard everyday chord and an odder one (whether odd in itself or odd in the context of which chords surround it). My working theory is that most people don't, really - or if they do, they hear it more as *texture* than as "harmony" as such...as if you could play a standard boring chord (G-B-D say) voiced with thick, buzzy instruments (a trio of saxes, say) and it might give a similar effect to an odder chord voiced more cleanly. This almost makes sense, in that thicker, buzzier sounds are that way because various overtones are more prominent (quick lesson: any given "note" isn't really one note - it's a series of overtones that are numerical multiples of the fundamental tone - multiply the frequency of a note by 2 and you get a note an octave higher, etc. - the series gradually sounds out chords (although not quite in our intonation) with each higher overtone being more distant, hence more dissonant: ex: C, C (plus octave), G, C, E (approx.), G, A (*very* approx.) etc. Each interval is slightly less than the previous. Oh - and bells sound the way they do because their overtone sequence is very unusual.) Another EC song that stands out as unique is "Tokyo Storm > Warning" which has kind of a circular or maybe spiral structure to me. This one's a little less odd structurally - if I recall, it's primarily that the verses are very long. It's a ranter in the long tradition of Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" - there are several songs that clearly use that as a structural (and lyrical) template - though naturally I can't think of them right now. (There's a Chuck Berry track that's sort of an antecedent to the Dylan song...can anyone think of which one? Damn me and my not wanting to do research on a snowy Saturday morning...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:05:22 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Costello Top 5 On 2/24/07, 2fs wrote: > > lesson: any given "note" isn't really one note - it's a series of > overtones that are numerical multiples of the fundamental tone... > For a much better (and - for Lauren's benefit - more mathy) explanation, see . - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:10:48 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Costello Top 5 On 2/24/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 2/24/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > lesson: any given "note" isn't really one note - it's a series of > > overtones that are numerical multiples of the fundamental tone... > > > > For a much better (and - for Lauren's benefit - more mathy) explanation, > see < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_series>. > Oh - and this? "The frequencies of the overtone series, being a range of integral multiples of the fundamental frequency, are naturally related to each other by small whole number ratios and it is these small whole number ratios that are the basis of the consonance of musical intervals, for example, a perfect fifth, say 200 and 300 Hz (cycles per second), produces a combination tone of 100 Hz (the difference between 300 Hz and 200 Hz) that is, an octave below the lower note." That's why "power chords" (which are the first and fifth tones of a scale) have power: they create their own bass note, essentially, an octave *lower* than the lowest pitch sounded. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:14:13 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: The Lives of Others Hi Jill, - -- Jill Brand is rumored to have mumbled on 24. Februar 2007 12:17:11 -0500 regarding blushing deep crimson/The Lives of Others: > To a completely different subject, go see The Lives of Others (Das Leben > der Anderen) if it makes its way to your city or town. I agree 100% (and have said so before :-) ) > My husband > (German through and through, though a US resident for almost 29 years) > and I left the theater mute (we were mute; we didn't make the theater > mute). I lived in West Germany from 1975-1978, and had quite a few > friends (and a future sister-in-law) who were members of the DKP (the > German Communist Party), which was the sister party to that of the East > German government. All of them left the party as things about the > government were spilling out in 1989 and 1990. I wonder what their > reaction will be. Difficult subject. I'm still disappointed and disillusioned by what was at the time called the "victory" of capitalism over socialism. I've never called myself a communist, and in the 80's it was common knowledge that the DKP were principally a party that valued ideology over reality. But still as a youth I held hope that the Eastern Bloc might after all offer some alternative to the system I grew up in, which I perceived as morally corrupt. In fact in my teens I declared that I would never visit the US and would rather travel to the Soviet Union :-) As it turns out, I *did* go there first, but my feelings regarding the US have changed substantially - not regarding politics, but regarding the actual people. It is noteworthy that the writer and director of the film is *not* from East Germany: This is more rambling than I'd like it to be, but I can't help it. The movie made me face how naive my assumptions about life in East Germany were. But aside from the compelling story, the movie is worth seeing just for the superb acting of Ulrich Muehe and Martina Gedeck! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:44:36 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 >At 05:28 PM 2/23/2007, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >>Hm... lessee: me -> Martin Phillipps -> Dave Mattacks -> Nick Drake >>->Joe Boyd -> REM -> Robyn >> >>There must be an easier link from Mattacks to Hitchcock... > >Mattacks -> Andy Partridge -> RH? Or does it not count because the >Andy / Robyn collaboration hasn't made it to a record yet? D'oh! And here I was trying to link through Fairport or similar... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:46:23 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Autographs and food Vivien asked: >Okay! So, what's the weirdest thing you've have a celebrity sign? I had >Douglas Coupland sign the back of my locker combination ticket. It's still >in my wallet. I had Peter Buck sign a beer can he had just finished. Yeah I was even more of a dork back then (1986)--I behave better now. A friend of mine had Robyn sign a trilobite fossil. James Francis says (and Lauren replied): >> I've read several interviews where Robyn has said he's a >> vegetarian--though the type of vegetarian that eats fish. >That was the kind of vegetarian I was when I was wondering about RH. >Quite a few of my vegetarian friends "begged to differ" Pescetarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarian I've been one for about 20 years now, but still occasionally wear Spam shirts. I still tell people I'm a vegetarian because they understand that. I've had conversations like this enough times: Want to stop and get a hamburger? Nah, I'm a pescetarian. Oh, really? I'm a Catholic... Later, Marc It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -- Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:57:16 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Ca(g/l)e > > Though I agree with what you're saying GQ, the nit-picker in me would > > like to point out that Cale *was* around with one or two of those - > > he worked alongside Cage during his pre-Velvets career, to start with. > > >To repick the nit you just picked, I think it was Lamonte Young - not John >Cage. Both - he studied under Young, but was involved in a project of Cage's at around that time, too. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:10:37 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: a man walks down the street in a hat like that, you know he's not afraid of anything On 2/24/07, natalie jacobs wrote: > > And I felt closer to him the minute I saw him in a Jayne hat. Hey, his > > blog > > url is in his sig file! I ain't stalkin'! > > > > The hero of Canton, that man they call Jeff! > > n., who has knitted not one but *two* Jayne hats (one for me, one for my > sister) For a moment I had lost the antecedent and thought maybe Robyn was in a Jayne hat. Damn, I miss FIREFLY, which ought to be in its fourth glorious season or so. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:31:50 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Autographs and food On Feb 24, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Marc Holden wrote: > > James Francis says (and Lauren replied): >>> I've read several interviews where Robyn has said he's a >>> vegetarian--though the type of vegetarian that eats fish. > >> That was the kind of vegetarian I was when I was wondering about RH. > >> Quite a few of my vegetarian friends "begged to differ" > > Pescetarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarian > I've been one for about 20 years now, Ditto, for about 16 years. I wasn't sure pescetarian was an accepted term. First time I heard it was when someone used it to describe my good friend Steve Jobs. Man, you should see him and Jonny Ive wolf down the sushi at Cafe Macs! On Feb 23, 2007, at 9:42 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > P.S. Where did you get the "Black Snake Diamond Role" shirt? My first > RH shirt was not until the "Moss Elixir" one with the wrong-way duck. Got it at Newbury Comics in Burlington, MA. Still have it! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:53:47 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Jay Farrar Inaction Figure On 2/19/07, natalie jacobs wrote: > > I was hoping for Miles of Music, but hey, I can stand some more meals > > at Huey's and Le Rendezvous. > > > > Those Miles of Music people won't give me a discount, the bastards. > > > I was just wondering if Miles was still on the feglist, and I am heartened > to see that he is. And I'm heartened in return to see you here again. I was wonderin' what had become of you. I've never unsubbed, more like un-kept-up-with. >Until my Hotmail account got deleted, I kept Miles's > epic tale of the Worst Audience Behavior Ever, involving a bunch of loud > drunken fratboy morons at a Jay Farrar acoustic show. Alas, I can no longer > remember all the details, but I do recall that it put all my own experiences > with poor audience etiquette to shame. I'm sure I have it saved somewhere, so I'll send it your way when next I stumble upon it. To the venue's credit, John Bruton, its booker (he now books the excellent Mercy Lounge), saw my e-mail and let us in free to the next show of our choice. To pick up on the Wilco/Farrar thread... Son Volt's first two were very good; 3rd one was still good but samey so I didn't shed a tear when SV split; SEBASTAPOL is wonderful, exactly what Jay needed to do to shake things up a bit. Live, Jay defines impassive, but if you close your eyes, everything sounds amazingly good. So if you see his show, just think of it as going to a room to listen to a really good performance, and don't worry about watching. Wilco kept getting better with each album, peaking with the SUMMERTEETH and YHF duo, and replacing REM as My Favorite Band during the 1999-2003 span. However, based on BACK TO THE EGG... erm, A GHOST IS BORN and a live show in 2004 which left me disquieted and disappointed (though no less an authority than Grimey told me that I was the only person in Nashville who didn't think it was The Best Show Of The Year - and Grimey talks to everyone in Nashville, so I guess he should know), I've fallen very much out of sympathy with Tweedy. Based on what I've heard of the new stuff, I don't think we're reconciling when the new Wilco gets released. And to tie it all back to our subject, along with the subtheme in this e-mail of Artists I've Broken Up With, today I bought my ticket for the Nashville stop of Robyn's tour. But just liked with the SPOOKED tour, I am 100% certain that I am going to be saddled with the show of least interest to me. Were one to do an Eddie-like stalkerpilgrimage and see every show, I'm sure that Robyn and "Country Time" or whatever it's being billed as here (I can't lay hands on the local ad at the moment - Venus 3 not mentioned, instead "Peter Buck" and "special guests") would be a nice change of pace. On the SPOOKED tour, I got Robyn + GilNDave doing all of SPOOKED, and really the only highlights for me outside of "Flanagan's Song" were GilNDave choosing "Luminous Rose" and "Brenda's Iron Sledge" as songs *they* would sing that night. So now I am bracing myself *not* for a rockin' good time with the Venus 3 and a well-chosen setlist, but some sort of SPOOKEDesque novelty show. I think I'll eschew reading any other setlist from the tour so I won't seethe myself to death. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:07:34 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: allmusic.com mention Jeff Dwarf: >. But the > things The Cure are probably best known for now -- which is oddly > enough their creative peak AFAIC, though more in spite of it being > the commercial peak as well than because of it (and there's no > _Faith_ in the middle dragging the period down) -- are mostly from > the two albums after _Standing on a Beach,_ I don't think that holds > for them at this point (and technically, the CD is _Staring at the > Sea,_ not _Standing on a Beach._) I think it should be > _Disintegration_, though _Kiss Me3_ would be a fine choice too. OK, the Cure's commercial peak is absolutely that HEAD ON THE DOOR through WISH period, and I actually have less of a problem thinking of it as their artistic peak than I did when I read this paragraph the first time - it's all very fine stuff. But FAITH "dragging the [earlier] period down"? Whaaaaaaa? That's the best one. This isn't even a case of me sticking up for an underdog like DecAy or bucking the trend (ex: my longstanding opinion that ARMED FORCES' songs are top-notch but those studio versions are dullsville). It's maybe the most Cure-y of Cure albums, but since you like the Cure, that's not going to be the problem. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:21:38 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: female vocalists On 2/23/07, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > "Making of British Steel," meet Netflix queue. Such classic and > monstrous thud, that album. My favorite driving CD is "British Steel" > and "Point of Entry" (the title of which makes me wince now that I > know Halford's proclivities). We may as well just call those albums > "English Boner" and "Biker's Butthole." But hey, they still bring the > rawk, don't they? When I was in junior high and high school, if you were a boy (which I was), you either liked Priest or you liked AC/DC. I always was much more of an AC/DC guy, though there's some Priest with which I'm ok. "Devil's Child" comes to mind as one of those, but that's probably the most AC/DCish of the Priest catalog. I realize Metallica had a lot more to do with the New Wave of British Heavy Metal or whatever it was called, but given that Motorhead never became more than a connoisseur's dish in my neck of the woods, the triumph of Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer/etc. felt like a win for the Priest camp, which is probably part of why I stopped following metal at all by the late '90s. I would have been happier with a universe where the first Masters of Reality album sold a zillion copies. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:18:08 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Costello Top 5 Hi Fegs, 2fs says: > Yeah, basically it repeats verse after verse and doesn't bring what sounds > like a chorus ("I've got a feeling / there's gonna be a lot of grief...") > until the very end. Most songs feature choruses after each verse, more or > less. ...as well as some other stuff. Thanks for that response. It was helpful to see some of the language and ideas behind these songs. I tend to shy away from music theory, probably because I have too many expectations of myself to understand it well when I often find it rather opaque. But I am interested in it nevertheless. I am not sure what you said about normal and odd chords, but some chords do sound odd to me. If I run into one, I will post it to the list and perhaps you can say whether it is odd to you as well. On a (I assume) related note, Robyn mention playing a lot of major chords - jokes about songs that feature the "A" chord, etc. Does "I Often Dream of Trains" has a lot of minor chords? People talk about minor chords have a sad sound to them, and that album has a distinct sad sound (I always say it sounds like autumn) compared to Robyn's other work. But maybe it's just slow-paced and has a lot of piano? I don't know - like I said, I recognize that things are different but no further. > For a much better (and - for Lauren's benefit - more mathy) explanation, see > . I will have to give that a closer read, but it's very interesting and a bit complicated. There's a lot of math in there hiding in the corners and under the carpet. Hell, even right out in the open. Makes me wish I had paid attention to the Bach parts of "Godel, Escher, Bach." > This one's a little less odd structurally - if I recall, it's primarily that > the verses are very long. It's a ranter in the long tradition of Dylan's > "Subterranean Homesick Blues" - there are several songs that clearly use > that as a structural (and lyrical) template - though naturally I can't think > of them right now. (There's a Chuck Berry track that's sort of an antecedent > to the Dylan song...can anyone think of which one? Damn me and my not > wanting to do research on a snowy Saturday morning...) Oh okay, I got it. That makes total sense. I think because EC tends to write in such a succinct and non-meandering fashion that to my ears hearing him go on and on as he does in "Tokyo Storm Warning" sounds odd, unlike Dylan who was born to meander. I have some other questions about music (this time Robyn's) but I am behind on my problem sets so later it will be. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:21:41 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: All Bangles, all the time (all...uh...over the place) On 2/24/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > > I'm gonna concur on this. Alls I had to do was hum it, and I got a little > choked up. But then, I was in the wild throes of puberty when that song > came > out, so maybe it's just a sense memory. Prolly why I don't like it... it marks the band going from evoking the sixties stuff that I like, to being prom music, which I didn't, what with it being time for me to not go to the prom that year an all. I think. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:23:40 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: The Day They Ate Brick On 2/24/07, FSThomas wrote: > > I found the music blog Power Pop Lovers maybe a month ago (quite > possibly cross-linked off the list, I can't remember) and they feature > 80s bands transferred from vinyl to MP3. It can be hit-or-miss a lot of > the time, but the first thing I grabbed was the Thomas Dolby/Matthew > Seligman Bruce Woolley and the Camera Club album English Garden. Today > I check the site, and what do I find? > > The Radar Sessions album. > > > http://powerpoplovers.blogspot.com/2007/02/soft-boys-legendary-radar-sessions-1979.html > > THE SOFT BOYS - THE LEGENDARY RADAR SESSIONS (1979) Nuppy, do you run this site? First Bruce Woolley and now this... I'm quite sure my copy of ot came from you! Lotta good blogs out there. Lots of 'em. - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #67 *******************************