From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #65 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, February 23 2007 Volume 16 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fellow Fegs ! [Capuchin ] Re: All John Cale, all the time. [2fs ] Re: Fellow Fegs !/"Real World" [2fs ] Mandy Moore is a mammal ["natalie jacobs" ] Re: Feg Awards, Real World [Rex ] Re: Fellow Fegs ! [Rex ] Fwd: eeuuwwww [Rex ] Re: All John Cale, all the time. [Rex ] Re: Fellow Fegs ! [Rex ] Re: Fellow Fegs ! [Christopher G] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Elvis Costello vs. John Cale! Let the death-match begin! [grutness@sl] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #63 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: eeuuwwww [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: eeuuwwww [Rex ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 [Rex ] And just to wrap up Bangles Day here on Fegmania... [Rex ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 [Dolph Chaney ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Fellow Fegs ! ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] RE: Wheel of Fortune ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: allmusic.com mention ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:45:55 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Rex wrote: > I registered that only a few years back, whenever whatsername, the > chick-who's-not-Britney-but-not-so-as-you'd-notice, did that cover album > where she sang SWOT, along with that one other song that wasn't that > bad, or whatever it was. > > Someone knows what I'm talking about. You mean Mandy Moore. And Mandy is SO not Britney. Totally different creatures, actually. They're almost opposites, in fact. Britney has almost no talent and very poor taste. The poor taste has lead to enormous tabloid popularity which, in turn, is big publicity and lead to some great songs being written and produced for her (and all she had to do was hum into a vocoder). Mandy is adequately talented as a singer and actress and appears to have pretty good taste (based on her choice of cover material and scripts as an adult) which leads to being perceived as bland and keeps her firmly B-listed. Also, she has the good taste to know that she's a big phoney if she's recording other people's songs heavily produced by other people all the time. But she's not really good at the other stuff, so the music isn't very good. (Whereas Britney's music isn't very good for its total lack of authenticity.) OK. Shutting up. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:02:41 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: All John Cale, all the time. On 2/23/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 2/18/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > Cale's new release, Circus, looks like a killer: it's 2 CDs of live > > stuff > > recorded on his last two tours, with tracks drawn from throughout his > > career, plus a DVD that contains acoustic demos and a buncha other > > stuff... > > > > US folks are advised that it's cheaper to order via amazon.co.uk than > > ordering the import through amazon.com. (There appears not to be a > > scheduled > > US release at this point.) > > > > Just ordered mine... > > > Yow, pricey. > Actually I think mine was $25 or so - for a 2-CD set with a DVD, that's not bad. Of course you get burned on the shipping - but still, I think the price is pretty damned reasonable considering whatcha get... Just got _5 Tracks_ EP from lala.com - been looking for that one. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:06:09 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs !/"Real World" On 2/23/07, Mark P wrote: > > Nah, it's written by Ms.'(?) Hoffs and V. Peterson. Just checked. > Digitized that as well, neat little chestnut, that I.R.S. epee! "Real > World". It just seems like a cover, I guess. "How Is The Air Up > There" is the cover on that, The La De Das' originally. Pretty > authentic stuff they could write when they wanna', those gals! I LOVE > The Bangles, their Doll Revolution elpee a couple years back now was a > strong comeback, excellent rekkid. > And - because he just won't go away - of course the semi-title track from that release was written by our man MacManus... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:14:46 -0600 From: "natalie jacobs" Subject: Mandy Moore is a mammal > *raises hand* I'm still here, and Jeme is too, until the fall. I know > Michael Wolfe is around here somewhere- can't think what I did with him, > though. Must have left him at the grocery store. I often see Michael Wolfe at Portland Decemberists shows. I also hung out with Sloop John B. Jones and Carole Reichstein at the epochal Robyn birthday show at the Doug Fir last year. (And by "epochal" I mean "totally sweet.") I registered that only a few years back, whenever whatsername, the > chick-who's-not-Britney-but-not-so-as-you'd-notice, did that cover album > where she sang SWOT, along with that one other song that wasn't that bad, > or > whatever it was. That was Mandy Moore, and I'm kinda frightened that I know that. But IMHO, the > peanut-ginger chew artwork tops even that with throwing in sexual > undertones (overtones?) with the cannibalism theme by having the > peanut and ginger guys *eating each other* (quite happily I may add). That is wrong on so many levels. n. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:22:46 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Feg Awards, Real World On 2/23/07, John Irvine wrote: > > I'm only a part time Feg, but my band did win the MTV - Beach House > Band Contest, (1995) for "Best All Male Band" category, which was a > neat trick since we had a girl drummer at the time. I got a Gretch > out of it, but no gold statuette. > > Loved that "Real World" video - Susanna makes her Rickenbacker look > cartoonishly enormous. And it's not even that large, as Rickenbackers go. (While the above is true, it's also for Eddie, with love.) PS: my Rickenbacker has a cat's-eye f-hole - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:25:30 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On 2/23/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > You'd > think that the plain ginger-chew artwork would take the cake with the > ginger chew actually cannibalizing itself. But IMHO, the > peanut-ginger chew artwork tops even that with throwing in sexual > undertones (overtones?) with the cannibalism theme by having the > peanut and ginger guys *eating each other* (quite happily I may add). Holy shit... a world undreamt of has just blossomed before my eyes... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:33:45 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Fwd: eeuuwwww On 2/23/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Jill Brand wrote: > > That's how I feel about the Bangles. I saw them open for the > > (English) Beat in '82 or '83, and they were awful. Just a > > Go-Go's rip-off, and that's not saying much. > > Huh. I'm not a huge fan of either, though both had some nice singles > (though I will never believe anything but that "Walk Like an > Egyptian" is one of the 10 worst songs of all time), Naw, it's just a harmless novelty. "Eternal Flame" is pretty awful, though, although they would redeem themselves with "In Your Room" (which, of course, didn't do as well). I don't link the Go-Go's and Bangles in too many meaningful ways besides geography and gender, either, but I guess that counts for something. One thing I find odd is that recently there was an entry in what is apparently a series of compilations calle "We Are the Eighties" devoted to the Bangles. Just seems wrong-- they were easily among the most sixties things offered up by the '80's, which is a long haul from actually *personifying* the decade. (The only other comp I've seen in the series is Bow Wow Wow, who actually feel a little more '70's to me, so maybe it's an elaborately lame joke). > but other than > being from LA and being all chicks, I can't really think of anything > they have in common. You might as well say The Smiths were a New > Order rip-off. Just because they're all chicks? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:35:43 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: All John Cale, all the time. On 2/23/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > Actually I think mine was $25 or so - for a 2-CD set with a DVD, that's > not bad. Of course you get burned on the shipping - but still, I think the > price is pretty damned reasonable considering whatcha get... > > Just got _5 Tracks_ EP from lala.com - been looking for that one. Me, too. Do tell. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:00:07 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On 2/23/07, Capuchin wrote: > > > You mean Mandy Moore. And Mandy is SO not Britney. Totally different > creatures, actually. > > They're almost opposites, in fact. Britney has almost no talent and very > poor taste. [...] Mandy is > adequately talented as a singer and actress and appears to have pretty > good taste (based on her choice of cover material and scripts as an adult) > which leads to being perceived as bland and keeps her firmly B-listed. > [...] But she's not really good at the other stuff, so the music isn't > very good. (Whereas Britney's music isn't very good for its total lack of > authenticity.) And thus its surfeit of fauxthenticity. (Or does the "fauxthenticity" imply at least a pose of grittiness?) Okay, so which one of them covered "I Love Rock and Roll" because she'd always loved Pat Benatar? Or was that someone else, a Simpson or something? - -Rex, listening to Dick Dale for some reason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:02:51 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Stacked Crooked wrote: > might refer to a policy issued by Lloyd's of London, when it's referred to > (as it often is) simply as "Lloyd's."> > > i'd write: Lloyd's'. but i think chris g. would write: Lloyd's's, yes? > (which is actually pretty bad-assed, when you look at it!) I probably *would* write Lloyd's's, for the sheer pleasure of it. But a more practical solution would be to use Lloyd's as an adjective, or else reword the sentence to use a prepositional phrase like "of Lloyd's" or "from Lloyd's." And what's the point of you people sending so many fegmails on a day when I'm *not* at work? I mean, really, folks -- save it for when it counts. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:28:06 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 > > Should you or anyone else ever put together a similar list of "Most > > Frequently Misspelled Titles," you might want to include this one: it's > > actually _Stereopathetic Soul Manure_. > > > > (Other nominees: "Entertainmen" by Sam Phillips, and "Having a Wonderful > > Time, Wish You Were Her" by her ex-spouse T-Bone Burnett) > > >My favorite ever, and indeed one of my favorite album titles, is The >Mekons' "The Quality of Mercy Is Not Strnen". Silly question, but why have some US bands spelt album titles in Commonwealth English? I can think of Husker Du's "Candy Apple Grey" and Foo Fighters' "The Colour and the Shape", but I suspect there are others... or are they only spelt that way here and in the UK but spelt "normally" at home? > > Oh oh oh... with my Bangles connection, am I now three degrees from Robyn? > >Last night I remembered that I might be one degree from Robyn >(although in my head it's more like ken's zero degrees believe me) as >I once went on a date with Deni Bonet's ex-husband / manager. The >only thing I was inclined to ask about Robyn was whether he was >vegetarian. Hm... lessee: me -> Martin Phillipps -> Dave Mattacks -> Nick Drake - ->Joe Boyd -> REM -> Robyn There must be an easier link from Mattacks to Hitchcock... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:30:16 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Elvis Costello vs. John Cale! Let the death-match begin! > > Plus, half of what we think of as experimental music in general >was invented > > by Cale & friends long before Costello got started. > >Hey now. I am actually a John Cale fan, and a *huge* Velvet Underground fan, >so I appreciate your enthusiasm. (Though there's no way I consider Cale to >be Costello's equal in terms of *songwriting,* but I can understand it may >be a matter of taste.) > >But to claim that Cale was instrumental in inventing "half" of all >"experimental" music is just pure hyperbole. Granted, he played a >significant role during a certain critical period of rock development, but >it's not like he was around with Varese, Cage, Boulez, Berio, Stockhausen, >Ligeti, Xenakis, and so on...or even the Beatles for that matter.... > >- --Quail Though I agree with what you're saying GQ, the nit-picker in me would like to point out that Cale *was* around with one or two of those - he worked alongside Cage during his pre-Velvets career, to start with. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:39:39 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #63 On 23/02/07, craigie* wrote: > > Bah feeble brained craigie*! > > How Is The Air Up There was a cover. I was amazed when I first heard that - the only version I knew was the La De Das version (they were - very briefly - NZ's answer to the Rolling Stones, and did a great Jaggeresque version of this song). but that was back in about 1967 - don't know whether they were the originators of it, though. I agree that "All over the place" was a top ten of the year album. I played a cassette of that so often it was barely inaudible by the time I got the CD. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:51:21 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: eeuuwwww Rex wrote: > On 2/23/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Jill Brand wrote: > > > That's how I feel about the Bangles. I saw them open for the > > > (English) Beat in '82 or '83, and they were awful. Just a > > > Go-Go's rip-off, and that's not saying much. > > > > Huh. I'm not a huge fan of either, though both had some nice > > singles (though I will never believe anything but that "Walk > > Like an Egyptian" is one of the 10 worst songs of all time), > > Naw, it's just a harmless novelty. See, bad novelty songs annoy me more than bad non-novelties -- especially bad novelties with a related dance. Probably because they are more likely to become huge and omnipresent. > "Eternal Flame" is pretty > awful, though, although they would redeem themselves with "In Your > Room" (which, of course, didn't do as well). I think those were released as singles the other way around. Not that it matters much. "Eternal Flame" at least has the story about Susanna singing it naked in the studio, which is a more pleasant image than Martin Gore singing "Somebody" naked, even if I'd rather head "Somebody" on the radio. > I don't link the Go-Go's and Bangles in too many meaningful ways > besides geography and gender, either, but I guess that counts for > something. One thing I find odd is that recently there was an > entry in what is apparently a series of compilations calle "We Are > the Eighties" devoted to the Bangles. Just seems wrong-- they were > easily among the most sixties things offered up by the '80's, > which is a long haul from actually *personifying* the > decade. (The only other comp I've seen in the series is Bow Wow > Wow, who actually feel a little more '70's to me, so maybe it's an > elaborately lame joke). A Flcok of Seagulls had one too and a few others. > > but other than > > being from LA and being all chicks, I can't really think of > anything > > they have in common. You might as well say The Smiths were a New > > Order rip-off. > > > Just because they're all chicks? Naw, just Gillian. And Morrissey. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:58:02 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: eeuuwwww On 2/23/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > > Naw, it's just a harmless novelty. > > See, bad novelty songs annoy me more than bad non-novelties -- > especially bad novelties with a related dance. Probably because they > are more likely to become huge and omnipresent. Except that "Walk" is at least bizarre enough to be interesting (if more bigoted than you might think, in retrospect, and yes, I've looked at the lyrics within the past two weeks; one of the kids did the song as an audition for a theatre group. And no, I can't really account for how omnipresent the Bangles have become in my life.) I think those were released as singles the other way around. Not that > it matters much. Urk. You are correct. But the same visit to the Bangles Discography site does at least confirm that, while the spelling has vaccillated all day in my posts and everyone else's, my instinct was correct-- it's Vicki (with two "i"''''s) Peterson. "Eternal Flame" at least has the story about Susanna > singing it naked in the studio, which is a more pleasant image than > Martin Gore singing "Somebody" naked, even if I'd rather head > "Somebody" on the radio. > > > > > I don't link the Go-Go's and Bangles in too many meaningful ways > > besides geography and gender, either, but I guess that counts for > > something. One thing I find odd is that recently there was an > > entry in what is apparently a series of compilations calle "We Are > > the Eighties" devoted to the Bangles. Just seems wrong-- > > A Flcok of Seagulls had one too and a few others. "Flcok" is a cool word. And that band really was the '80's, so all is now right with the world. > > Just because they're all chicks? > > Naw, just Gillian. > > > And Morrissey. Right, that's done then! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:58:21 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Hm... lessee: me -> Martin Phillipps -> Dave Mattacks -> Nick Drake > -> Joe Boyd -> REM -> Robyn > > There must be an easier link from Mattacks to Hitchcock... Mattacks drummed on _Nonsvch,_ so Andy Partridge. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:00:36 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 On 2/23/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > > Should you or anyone else ever put together a similar list of "Most > > > Frequently Misspelled Titles," you might want to include this one: > it's > > > actually _Stereopathetic Soul Manure_. > > > > > > (Other nominees: "Entertainmen" by Sam Phillips, and "Having a > Wonderful > > > Time, Wish You Were Her" by her ex-spouse T-Bone Burnett) > > > > > >My favorite ever, and indeed one of my favorite album titles, is The > >Mekons' "The Quality of Mercy Is Not Strnen". > > Silly question, but why have some US bands spelt album titles in > Commonwealth English? I can think of Husker Du's "Candy Apple Grey" > and Foo Fighters' "The Colour and the Shape", but I suspect there are > others... or are they only spelt that way here and in the UK but > spelt "normally" at home? "Grey" is spelled either way in the US-- I always spell it with an "e" because it looks better to me, but I would never write "colour" in earnest for fear of looking like pose(u)r. Mostly I think bands are just trying to look cool when they do that kind of thing. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:14:14 -0800 From: Rex Subject: And just to wrap up Bangles Day here on Fegmania... WHEREAS we posted stuff about the Bangles all day today, be it hereby noted that it IS, in actual fact, BANGLES DAY here in Los Angeles... or at least, the precise 20th Anniversary of the same. http://www.thebangles.com/news/news.asp?item=105970 So there. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:36:37 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 On Feb 23, 2007, at 5:28 PM, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Hm... lessee: me -> Martin Phillipps -> Dave Mattacks -> Nick Drake > ->Joe Boyd -> REM -> Robyn > > There must be an easier link from Mattacks to Hitchcock... Mattacks Partridge Hitchcock - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:00:19 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 At 05:28 PM 2/23/2007, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >Hm... lessee: me -> Martin Phillipps -> Dave Mattacks -> Nick Drake ->Joe >Boyd -> REM -> Robyn > >There must be an easier link from Mattacks to Hitchcock... Mattacks -> Andy Partridge -> RH? Or does it not count because the Andy / Robyn collaboration hasn't made it to a record yet? - -- Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:01:50 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #61 At 07:00 PM 2/23/2007, Dolph Chaney wrote: >At 05:28 PM 2/23/2007, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >>Hm... lessee: me -> Martin Phillipps -> Dave Mattacks -> Nick Drake ->Joe >>Boyd -> REM -> Robyn >> >>There must be an easier link from Mattacks to Hitchcock... > >Mattacks -> Andy Partridge -> RH? Or does it not count because the Andy / >Robyn collaboration hasn't made it to a record yet? > >-- Dolph Correction -- "...hasn't made it to PLAYING TOGETHER ON a record..." Sorry. - -- Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:36:42 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! Hi Fegs, vivien lyon says: > ONLY THIS MORNING did I consciously > realize that he was referring to what we colonials call a soccer ball. Speaking for myself (as often is the case), I rather like when things like that happen. The slight elation at understanding certain kinds of confusion is worth the expense of my feeling a bit slow on the uptake. > And in conclusion, I would like to self-importantly announce that I'm _zero_ > degrees from Msr. Hitchcock (by my own, apparently universally > disapproved-of, method of calculation) FWIW, I crossed threads a bit with you on this but I did vote for of this method of calculation. A degree is a point of separation so knowing the person is zero degrees. > Sad to say, I still remember exactly what I was wearing the day he said "Hi > Viv." Well it would be damn silly to forget something like that. I remember what I was wearing when I finally worked up the nerve / desire to ask him to sign a CD (although come to think of it, part of what we talked about was my Bowie shirt (he said his daughter is a big Bowie fan, etc.) it's even more unlikely I would forget.) Probably even a guy would remember what they were wearing when they met Robyn: "a shirt and some pants." xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:26:26 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune Jill Brand wrote: Subject: wheel of fortune >>Michael S. wrote: >>"...and the "Fabulous Spinning Songbook" show..." >Was this the one with the wheel of fortune thingy, or was it a spinning >pointer, and whatever song got landed on, that's what he did? If it's the >same, I saw that show at the Orpheum in Boston, and Jules Shear and Aimee >Mann were the wheel (or pointer) spinners. >Jill ...It being 1986 and all, our "celebrity" spinners in Chicago were a couple of 2nd-level Super Bowl Bears (if I remember it correctly, it was Keith Van Horne (who later married and divorced the then-pretty-hot (later, clearly nuts) Eleanor Mondale) and Ken Margerum)...but the show was aces. Cover songs highlights: the aformentioned run at "Dreamtime" (w/ Daryl Hall / Napoleon Dynamite riff) and, when the spot labeled "Ferry" came up on the wheel, EC vamped a bit about doing a Bryan Ferry medley...then, after stalling, the band instead launched into "Ferry Cross the Mersey." Funny...but I woulda enjoyed hearing an Elvis run through "More Than This" / "Both Ends Burning" / "Angel Eyes." The only disappointment? The fact that Prince's "Pop Life" was on the wheel, but never came up... Declanly yrs., Mike-Mike-Michael and the Sweens _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:12:24 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: allmusic.com mention hi fegs, ken ostrander says: > well, the new order version came first; and that's how i was introduced to both bands. i do love them both; but i can see how new order can seem like a watered-down version of the joy division. if you ignore 'dreams never end', that is. i didn't know about the new order album although i think i may even have a copy from my new-order-pusher friend. i bought substance (the second and real one) because i didn't have "radio transmission" anywhere else. ty (the new-order pusher friend and co-worker) would always tell me of how he and his rather hot indian friend anup would watch the vhs of the new order every week at college (nb the 'hot' tag comes from me, not ty). they knew all the parts to it. i liked that hearing that story in and of it itself but also ty went to the same college as i did only later; he studied math as well and in my head it was just a nice image of these two nice geek guys having a little ritual of their new order story at the same college as i had my little rituals. > which brings us back to zero degrees. i had a time when i would carry the lyric book with me everywhere. i remember reading it intently waiting for my logic class to start and some young lady coming up and asking me if i was alright. i wasn't. kind of says it all. it is always like that i am jealous that you had a logic class. come to think of it, i had one too but i'm still jealous. i want to take one now that i'm in school again but apparently it's absolutely not all the rage. there is a teacher there who has a phd in logic and a separate one in computer science and i am down with that. i hope i can do an independent study or thesis that area. philosophy and logic are a little dangerous...it's kind of easy to lose the thread. but perhaps the danger is part of what makes it interesting. > it starts with 'love is the drug' and ends with 'just another high'. and it is habit forming. and "both ends burning" somewhere between those two ends. > >perhaps that put in motion my love of the english boys< > > beatles, police, and duran did that for me. which of the durans? > someone had a nifty twist on that at a party: if you could only listen to one artist (their entire catalogue including solo albums and collaborations), what would it be? > after some serious consideration, i decided to cheat and go with band aid. now when i think of band aid i think of the pulp video for the song "bad cover version" which is just as well i suppose. for one artist i would be torn between the beatles and hitchcock but once you toss in robyn bootlegs then book me that ticket. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #65 *******************************