From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #58 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, February 21 2007 Volume 16 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Robyn & the Decemberists ["C Tupman" ] Evolution of Wikipedia Page ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora [2fs ] Robyn NY Doll ["C Tupman" ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora [Jeff Dwarf ] feline vs. canine dada ["natalie jacobs" ] Re: feline vs. canine dada [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: feline vs. canine dada ["Jason Brown" ] Re: Leppo and the proofs ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora [2fs ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Attention Fred Lane fan(s) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Not-so-ugly Nora ["Stewart C. Russell" ] George Takei on Tim Hardaway [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: feline vs. canine dada [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: secretly channeling the spirit of an Oscar Wilde action figure [Rex <] Re: Leppo and the proofs [Rex ] Re: Viv's New Favorite Ice Cream [Benjamin Lukoff ] I'm Just a Girl... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:52:03 +0000 From: "C Tupman" Subject: Robyn & the Decemberists Robyn's recent appearance on stage with the Decemberists is up on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljS_BTuJUXY _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:54:46 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Evolution of Wikipedia Page Hi Fegs, Recent discussion / interest in Wikipedia led me to this page: http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/gems/umlaut.html I love the understated narration during the vandalism scene. Also, I was kind of hoping Wikipedia would choke a la a Turing Machine, but alas, it handled the request just fine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiPedia xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:54:52 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora On 2/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Capuchin wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > If you could only make a dog that could purr like a cat, had the > > > innate feline dada, and could be trained to use the toilet, > > > you'd have the perfect pet. > > > > So, in what way would it be a dog? > > The loyalty, affection, intelligence, could fetch, bark at intruders, > have the canine dada -- which, as anyone who has had both dogs and > cats know, it distinct from the feline dada, but just as hilarious. > They're also more sympathetic beasts than cats. Plus, they can type. We're not going to have a cats vs. dogs war here, are we? (I'll just say cats are too loyal, affectionate, and intelligent. Fetching is less likely - and barking at intruders is right out. They may, however, violently shed fluffy fur at intruders which - if the intruders are allergic to cats - may be enough.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:56:36 +0000 From: "C Tupman" Subject: Robyn NY Doll Ooh! And a bit of the Sundance programme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZINy8bfGHc _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:10:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora 2fs wrote: > We're not going to have a cats vs. dogs war here, are we? > > (I'll just say cats are too loyal, affectionate, and intelligent. Yeah, but less differently so. I actually like both, though I like dogs more. But ideally when I get my shit together and all that crap, I have a couple of both. > Fetching is less likely - and barking at intruders is right out. > They may, however, violently shed fluffy fur at intruders which - > if the intruders are allergic to cats - may be enough.) "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:28:26 -0600 From: "natalie jacobs" Subject: feline vs. canine dada > alas, i've never read any books about the postal history of tonga; which, > if i'm not mistaken, automatically excludes me from receiving that > particular honour. Well, shit - you need to get on that. at any rate, welcome back natalie jane jacobs...now, get busy and write > some fuckin' concert reviews, already! I saw Jeff Tweedy two nights in a row last month. It was neat. > > > So, in what way would it be a dog? > > The loyalty, affection, intelligence, could fetch, bark at intruders, > have the canine dada -- which, as anyone who has had both dogs and > cats know, it distinct from the feline dada, but just as hilarious. > They're also more sympathetic beasts than cats. Plus, they can type. My cat lacks the canine dada and doesn't bark at intruders, but she is loyal, affectionate, sympathetic, plays fetch (when she feels like it), and has been occasionally known to type, at least when she decides to sit on my computer keyboard. n. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:32:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: feline vs. canine dada natalie jacobs wrote: > My cat ... has been occasionally known to type, at least when she > decides to sit on my computer keyboard. Does she start everything with "It was a dark and stormy night?" "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:49:04 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: feline vs. canine dada On 2/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > natalie jacobs wrote: > > My cat ... has been occasionally known to type, at least when she > > decides to sit on my computer keyboard. > > Does she start everything with "It was a dark and stormy night?" I dunno but my cat, who is named after a republican president, does love lasagna. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:18:53 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Leppo and the proofs Hi Fegs, Uncle "Zip Zip" Stan says: > A supplier of molded details for our robots gave me one from her set > back in 1997 or so. Mine's in really good shape still. Scully sure > wasn't the typical female lead of the time, a short redhead. However I > though it was brillant casting. Scully's not short. Mulder's tall! (I had a co-worker Don who had two categories of height for females: "short" and "tall". I was indignant to find I was in the "short" category...apparently "tall" was about 5'8" (I'm 5'4" which I do agree is not "tall"). I always would laugh hearing the guys at work (math / engineer-type people) describe females or female-type things like shoes or haircuts because their descriptions seemed so unnuanced (is that a word?).) I wonder if I balanced those parentheses. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:37:23 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Only some breeds drool, actually. Catherine's late cat Attaboy used to drool like a bastard. Plus he smelt terrible. And I was unbelievable allergic to him (even thinking about him makes me itch). But we loved him anyway. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:19:00 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora On 2/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > Only some breeds drool Wasn't that that abysmal Alice Cooper song? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:24:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora 2fs wrote: > On 2/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Only some breeds drool > > Wasn't that that abysmal Alice Cooper song? Was that the one he used to introduce by saying that not even (his golfing buddy) Lloyd Cole had written a song about canine saliva expellation, prompting Cole to write "Impossible Cur?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_cole#Golf "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:38:28 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Attention Fred Lane fan(s) Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > Here's a download of Ron 'Pate's Debonairs: Raudelunas 'Pataphysical > Revue', LP, 1977. Hey, the only album I get a credit on! (well, the 2003 CD release) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora Jeff Dwarf wrote: > 2fs wrote: > > On 2/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > Only some breeds drool > > > > Wasn't that that abysmal Alice Cooper song? > > Was that the one he used to introduce by saying that not even (his > golfing buddy) Lloyd Cole had written a song about canine saliva > expellation Expectoration. Grrrr.... > , prompting Cole to write "Impossible Cur?" > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_cole#Golf > > > > > "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy > doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann > > "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of > evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth > with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the > Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- > "Sylvar" > . > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:50:33 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Not-so-ugly Nora Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_cole#Golf Lloyd's dad was the greenskeeper for Glasgow Killermont, one of the most exclusive clubs in west central Scotland. Stewart (and I told you about Lloyd and the sweater, yes?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:27:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: George Takei on Tim Hardaway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA20dKc3kK8 "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:02:59 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: feline vs. canine dada I forget who wrote this: > The loyalty, affection, intelligence, could fetch, bark at intruders, > have the canine dada -- which, as anyone who has had both dogs and > cats know, it distinct from the feline dada, but just as hilarious. > They're also more sympathetic beasts than cats. Plus, they can type. I'm not sure what you are referring to, but a cat has written a famous piece of German literature ;-) The English Wikipedia has this to say: "Hoffmann strove for artistic polymathy. He created far more in his works than mere political commentary achieved through satire. His masterpiece (it is generally agreed) is Lebensansichten des Katers Murr [bThe Life and Opinions of Tomcat Murrb] (1819b1821). This novel deals with such issues as the aesthetic status of 'true' artistry, and the modes of self-transcendence that accompany any genuine endeavour to create. Hoffmann's portrayal of the character Kreisler (a genius musician) is wittily counterpointed with the character of the tomcat Murr b a virtuoso illustration of artistic pretentiousness that many of Hoffmann's contemporaries found offensive and subvertive of Romantic ideals. Hoffmann's literature points to the failings of many so-called 'artists' to differentiate between the superficial and the authentic aspects of such Romantic ideals. The self-conscious effort to impress must, according to Hoffmann, be divorced from the self-aware effort to create. This essential duality in Kater Murr is structurally conveyed through a discursive 'splicing together' of two biographical narratives. Such a framework warrants an extensive exploration of its philosophical implications." Sebastian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Viv's New Favorite Ice Cream On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Capuchin wrote: >> I'm still trying to figure out WHICH five these teachers think are the >> only irrationals. > > That is so depressing. Which part? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:04:41 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: secretly channeling the spirit of an Oscar Wilde action figure On 2/19/07, natalie jacobs wrote: > > > they could have the same brain. and what about people who think that > they > > are another person (like mark david chapman) or have multiple > identities? > > > I've been reading lately about an invented phenomenon called > "soulbonding." > Sometimes authors (my beloved Ursula Le Guin, for one) talk figuratively > about "channeling" fictional characters or feeling as if their characters > are speaking through them. "Soulbonders" take this one step further and > claim that said fictional characters have actually, literally taken up > residence in their heads. Some people even claim to have "soulbonded" > with > real people. (IMO, these folks are either mentally ill and/or are seeking > some way of making their geeky obsessions seem special and mystical.) So > if > you're "soulbonded" with, say, Robyn Hitchcock, does that mean you're 0 > degrees of separation from him? This rather points back to "stalking as a degree"... I figure it depends on how forcefully you manage to connect yourself to your stalkee (see, again, Mark David Chapman). Sad, really... the more successful you are in substantiating your degree, the more likely someone is to get grievously injured. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:09:38 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Leppo and the proofs On 2/20/07, craigie* wrote: > > Trust Noone? > > what did Peter Noone do to be so trustworthy? http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Noone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Viv's New Favorite Ice Cream On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Capuchin wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Capuchin wrote: > >> I'm still trying to figure out WHICH five these teachers think are the > >> only irrationals. > > > > That is so depressing. > > Which part? Math teachers not knowing math ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:59:49 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: I'm Just a Girl... Hi Fegs, Hey, I like all you guys just as much as the next gal, but I have to say I was very pleased to see this: http://www.acm.org/careernews/extras/latimesturingarticle.html It's the closest computer scientists get to a Nobel Prize. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #58 *******************************