From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #48 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, February 14 2007 Volume 16 : Number 048 Today's Subjects: ----------------- estrogen, etc. ["natalie jacobs" ] squid news [Christopher Gross ] Re: estrogen, etc. [Tom Clark ] cute babes (was Re: piping in) ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Didn't see the giant squid... ["C Tupman" ] Re: piping in [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: cute babes (was Re: piping in) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] re: six degrees of cheese [ken ostrander ] RE: six degrees of cheese ["Marc Alberts" ] initial Bonnaroo lineup announced ["Michael Wells" ] Re: initial Bonnaroo lineup announced [FSThomas ] Re: six degrees of prime number theory ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: cute babes (was Re: piping in) [Rex ] Re: Musical guidance! [Rex ] Free Lecture Today! ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: cute babes (was Re: piping in) ["Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: estrogen, etc. > You mean we've gone hos before bros? Chicks before dicks! > I like her music more than her voice, which I'm sorta fascinated by, > simply > that it's so odd. She does manipulate it skillfully, however. I don't mind Joanna Newsom's voice so much in her shorter songs, but when she's chirping away like some sort of adenoidal Tinkerbell for ten or fifteen minutes at a time, it makes me die a little inside. Or maybe I'm just jealous because she's banging Bill Callahan from Smog. I dunno. n. p.s. Fuck you Tom Clark! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:25:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: squid news Footage of a quite lively squid (non-pornographic): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6357005.stm - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:15:54 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: estrogen, etc. On Feb 13, 2007, at 7:13 PM, natalie jacobs wrote: > > p.s. Fuck you Tom Clark! Do I know you? - -t "feels like 1999" c ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:23:14 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: cute babes (was Re: piping in) Hi Fegs, Re: Joanna Newsom...I'm completely shallow with this one and only fell for her after I saw how damn cute she is in this video: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=125186 She has that sort of "not here" quality that attracts me to some other female singers e.g. Bjork and Tori Amos. They're all a bit otherwordly. Here's a one-song clip of the above video if you don't want to download the whole thing from Dime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugB-CgoIfdU Although admittedly, after listening to her for more than about half and hour, I feel like screaming (not in a good way) so maybe shallowness can only take you so far... xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:04:56 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On Feb 8, 2007, at 10:11 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > this is probably my > third-fave movie of the last twenty years, after *The Kingdom I & > II* and > *Delicatessen*. so, "dig in!", sez i. I saw the Kingdom I & II here in SF and was delighted by them! Completely! I'd put them high on my list, although my list is still dominated by Polish, former Soviet and Georgian/Armenian film (when I can get it). There was a year in the late 90s where the film festivals were dominated by Kazak films. Some beautiful stuff indeed! On Feb 12, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Feb 12, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > >> you saw the *Wall* tour???? i don't know if that's quite as cool as >> reading books about the postal history of tonga -- but it's pretty >> fuckin' >> cool! there were only, like, ten shows in the u.s., right? > > > > You bet your Eb-reamed ass I did. Nassau-fucking-Coliseum baby! > And I've got the pictures to prove it! > > > > -tc I missed this one but I did see both the Dark Side of the Moon tour AND the Meddle tour (at the Hollywood bowl no less - fireworks in the lake!). Be Seeing You, - - c - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:51:40 +0000 From: "C Tupman" Subject: Didn't see the giant squid... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6357005.stm _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:56:49 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: piping in - -------------- Original message -------------- From: 2fs > On 2/13/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 2/13/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > > > > > On 2/13/07, Jill Brand wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is, indeed, true that there is no accounting for personal taste, > > > which > > > > is why I might like Colin's voice when others hate it but why I detest > > > > Joanna Newsom's when others think it is wonderful (but I still think > > > it's > > > > guys who think she's hot who like it). > > > > I'm not sure whether Jill or Vivien said that - but... > > I like her music more than her voice, which I'm sorta fascinated by, simply > that it's so odd. She does manipulate it skillfully, however. > > I find her neither particularly attractive nor particularly unattractive. > There are some cute things about her, and some things that sort of detract > from that cuteness - overall kinda eh. > > > > > > > Just me, or does the feg list seem rather more female-friendly just now, > > for > > some elusive reason? > > Jeff came back with: > I think that part of it is simply that Lauren, Vivien, and Jill have been > doing a lot of posting lately. All to the good. > I am in 100% agreement of Jeff's statement. Now if Kay would only come back! MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:21:45 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: cute babes (was Re: piping in) Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Although admittedly, after listening to her for more than about half > and hour, I feel like screaming I can (and have) listened to all four of her albums back to back. Though even still, I have to skip "Three Babes" (aka "Lady Gay"). If you don't like Joanna, you suck and are mean. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:43:28 +0000 From: matt sewell Subject: RE: piping in Don't worry Jill, think it's just me with the vitriol... I really don't know why but they seriously rub me up the wrong way... in a way I wish I knew what it was. Actually I think any artist'll tell you that a strong reaction one way or the other is better than ambivalence. In fact I think it says somewhere in the bible "because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out"... Now then, surely *someone* has a Martin Carthy recommendation for me...? Cheers Matt > What surprises me is this new vitriole towards the Decemberists. In the > past, people have said that they don't like them (and that's fine), but > there seems to be an animosity there that I don't understand. I mean, > gosh and golly, they are pretty nice people. _________________________________________________________________ Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:05:11 -0800 (PST) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: six degrees of cheese > "Degree" means an intervenor, ie: another person.< i'd like to agree that if it's "degrees of separation", then zero degrees would be no separation, ie. you know that person and one degree would mean that there's someone between. however, if you are listing off six people that separate you from someone else on the planet, then "one" will be the first of those people. if you are the first of the six, then there is no one between. > > I don't think it counts if they were merely in physical proximity to him. i'm not so sure. if there are only six degrees separating each of us from anyone else on the planet, then physical proximity must factor in. if you live next door to someone you're still neighbors, whether you love each other or not. still, if you never actually run into a neighbor, then the math gets fuzzy. if you share an elevator, then you've made contact; but if you just see them across a crowded room, then you haven't. but what if your eyes meet and sparks fly but then forces conspire to keep you apart? oh wherefore? and what about all of us? certainly some of us have actually met others; but regardless, how far apart can people be who only correspond? > To those who argue that zero degrees is "identity", I say- "degree" stands > for social separation. Obviously we are all physically separate from each > other (except at certain special moments).< how about formally conjoined twins? or twins in general? the mother and child connection? past lives? parasites? and what about one night stands where you don't remember the person's name? obviously, famous folk probably don't remember everyone they've ever met (let alone gotten biblical with); so i would say that it doesn't matter. i have to believe that shaking hands is enough to put you at one degree. > Oh - does stalking count?< oh certainly, but i guess it all depends on how close you get. if you manage to touch the hem of someone's garment (while they're wearing it; although the argument could be made for when they are not), you're just about there. if a restraining order is involved then there's no doubt that the two people know each other. >If the closest I can get to someone without >actually knowing them is 2 degrees, that sort of takes >the fun away, is all I'm saying.< you could spend some time in the bushes and then jump up one degree. and if you believe in the collective unconscious, we are all connected. namaste. happy valentine's day. ken "my mind is connected to your dreams" the kenster - --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:35:02 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: six degrees of cheese I'm always amazed at what causes the longest ongoing threads on this list.... Ken Ostrander wrote: > > "Degree" means an intervenor, ie: another person.< > > i'd like to agree that if it's "degrees of separation", then zero > degrees would be no separation, ie. you know that person and one degree > would mean that there's someone between. however, if you are listing > off six people that separate you from someone else on the planet, then > "one" will be the first of those people. if you are the first of the > six, then there is no one between. > A degree of separation, by definition, means that you are a step away from that person, physically separate. Zero degrees would mean you *are* the person in question, that there is no separation. So I can say I am zero degrees of separation away from myself, but one degree of separation away from all the folks who have seen my posts on the Feg list. People who know members of the Feg list that I don't know, however, are two degrees of separation (that is, two steps away from me). It doesn't make sense to say that you are zero degrees of separation away from someone else because that then changes the coordinate system to being based on a non-fixed center. > > > > I don't think it counts if they were merely in physical > proximity to him. > > i'm not so sure. if there are only six degrees separating each of us > from anyone else on the planet, then physical proximity must factor in. > if you live next door to someone you're still neighbors, whether you > love each other or not. still, if you never actually run into a > neighbor, then the math gets fuzzy. if you share an elevator, then > you've made contact; but if you just see them across a crowded room, > then you haven't. but what if your eyes meet and sparks fly but then > forces conspire to keep you apart? oh wherefore? If you know someone, no matter how well, that is one degree of separation. If you don't know the person but know someone who does, that is two degrees of separation. I would guess that being in constant physical proximity would put you in one of these two categories in most cases. > > and what about all of us? certainly some of us have actually met > others; but regardless, how far apart can people be who only > correspond? > > > > To those who argue that zero degrees is "identity", I say- "degree" > stands > > for social separation. Obviously we are all physically separate from > each > > other (except at certain special moments).< > > how about formally conjoined twins? or twins in general? the mother > and child connection? past lives? parasites? One degree, unless you want to argue that conjoined twins or a mother/child pair actually only consist of one person. While it is an interesting proposition, I don't think that jibes with our common use of the term "person." > > and what about one night stands where you don't remember the person's > name? One degree, clearly. Degrees of separation comes from the old "small world" theory, and it was only required that you had a connection with that person, not that you remembered their name. > > obviously, famous folk probably don't remember everyone they've ever > met (let alone gotten biblical with); so i would say that it doesn't > matter. i have to believe that shaking hands is enough to put you at > one degree. I'd agree with that. > > Oh - does stalking count?< > > oh certainly, but i guess it all depends on how close you get. if > you manage to touch the hem of someone's garment (while they're wearing > it; although the argument could be made for when they are not), you're > just about there. if a restraining order is involved then there's no > doubt that the two people know each other. They know each other too well, it would seem ;-) > > >If the closest I can get to someone without > >actually knowing them is 2 degrees, that sort of takes > >the fun away, is all I'm saying.< > > you could spend some time in the bushes and then jump up one degree. Ain't that a shame.... Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:58:17 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: initial Bonnaroo lineup announced Is is just me, or does Sting look like Dana Carvey's "Carsenio" nowadays? Hmm...Richard Thompson, Damien Rice, Ralph Stanley, Mavis Staples, The Hold Steady, Manu Chao... Michael 2007 BONNAROO ARTIST LINEUP: The Police * Tool * Widespread Panic * The White Stripes * Ben Harper & the Innocent Criminals * Wilco * The Flaming Lips * Manu Chao * The String Cheese Incident * Franz Ferdinand * Bob Weir & Ratdog * Damien Rice * Ween * Gov't Mule * Ziggy Marley * The Decemberists * Kings of Leon * Michael Franti & Spearhead * Wolfmother * Regina Spektor * The Black Keys * Galactic * DJ Shadow * Gillian Welch * Spoon * Keller Williams (WMD's) * Sasha & John Digweed * STS9 * Old Crow Medicine Show * The Hold Steady * North Mississippi Allstars * Fountains Of Wayne * Hot Tuna * Feist * Hot Chip * John Butler Trio * Ralph Stanley & the Clinch Mountain Boys * Aesop Rock * The Richard Thompson Band * Dierks Bentley * Xavier Rudd * Gogol Bordello * Junior Brown * Tortoise * T-Bone Burnett * Mavis Staples * Clutch * Cold War Kids * Dr. Dog * Paolo Nutini * Brazilian Girls * RX Bandits * The Nightwatchman * The Slip * Girl Talk * Railroad Earth * Martha Wainwright * Rodrigo y Gabriela * Annuals * Tea Leaf Green * Sam Roberts Band * Elvis Perkins in Dearland * Charlie Louvin * Sonya Kitchell * Mute Math * Apollo Sunshine * Uncle Earl * James Blood Ulmer * The National * The Little Ones * Black Angels * Ryan Shaw Lewis Black & Friends * David Cross * Dave Attell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:26:07 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Musical guidance! Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > > Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:12:18 +0000 > From: matt sewell > Subject: RE: Colin, Robyn, Martin etc. > Also, would anyone like to give me some musical guidance..? Look at these > Incredible String Band albums - lovely. And Pentangle... oooh lala... I have > the first Fairport and wouldn't want to be without it. Richard Thompson? Of > course I do. Wavy Davey Graham? Not yet but I'm planning to... * I hear that Pentangle reformed for some award ceremony recently and cocked up 'Bruton Town' thoroughly, only getting together on 'Light Flight'. I would stick to the Bert and John duo and solo albums myself. Davey Graham is stunning but has a deeply crappy drummer on several of his records. The Hull University after-gig session is the one to go for. * And if the Hull sound turns out to be the direction you are moving in, come to the Fleece tomorrow to catch Michael Chapman, the fingerpicking maestro of Hull melancholy: With fascinating short biography of the old wonder in this section: > In the light of the above, would anyone like to give me a pointer in the > direction of Martin Carthy? * You need to ask that guy Hitchcock, who is a big fan! They interviewed Martin on one or two of those recent BBC4 documentaries about the early days of Les Cousins etc., including Dylan's visit to the club (And who nowadays would call a club after an avante-garde Fr.film? see ) > vivien lyon wrote: >> AHHH!!! Why am I so upset by your view??? >> "Degree" means an intervenor, ie: another person. Let's make this >> particular to the feglist- I am one degree (one person) away from >> Mike >> Godwin, Jim Davies being that person/degree. If I knew >> Mike personally, I'd >> be zero intervening persons away from him, >> hence zero degrees. * I have several great shots of the back of Jim's head at the recent Fleece gig, some of them with a band in the background featuring an eccentric lead singer waving his arms in the air. Can I post them to anybody? - - Mike Godwin n.p. Walking in the belly of the whale - Michael Chapman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:41:11 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: Six Degrees of Colbert Rex responded: >Maybe I assume too much, but I thought that a degree was basically >constituted by a quantifiable connection, ideally a credited collaboration >but perhaps descending to the level of "took a class with", or... erm... >carnal knowledge, or perhaps best-friendship of an "I was in his wedding >party" level. "Was once at a party with" or "lived in the same apartment >building at the same time but didn't find out about that until years after >we'd both moved out" wouldn't cut it. I'd have to agree here that just meeting someone doesn't really count as a connection, or I could claim: Syd Barrett--2 degrees, met Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, and Richard Wright John Lennon--2 degrees, met Julian Lennon John Lennon (again)--2 degrees, my uncle helped repaint/restore his psychedelic Bentley (after John sold it. We still have some of the chrome parts) John Lennon (yet again)--2 degrees, met Alice Cooper, who was one of Lennon's drinking buddies while John was estranged from Yoko Andy Warhol--2 degrees, met John Cale and Lou Reed Oprah Winfrey--1 1/2 degrees (and anyone who was ever on the Oprah Winfrey show--2 1/2 degrees), I used to be a prep cook at a restaurant in Baltimore where Oprah frequently ate lunch and fed her fried potato cravings-- I had a part in thousands of calories she consumed back in '79-'82 Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron--2 degrees, met Willie Mays Bob Dylan--2 degrees, my mother sat next to him on a cross country flight and then watched over his suitcase while he looked for his ride from the airport Ray Charles--2 degrees, my sister served him a meal, while he read from a Braille edition of Playboy Anyone on the 1960-1974 MLB All-Star teams or who played in the 1966, 1969, 1970, 1971 World Series games--2 degrees, because I used to deliver pizzas to Brooks Robinson etc., etc. But the closest I could really claim was I used to work with and go drink/smoke, etc. with Don Larsen's ex-wife (Don pitched the only perfect World Series game ever, back in 1956). Wesley Willis had asked me if he could stay at my house the next time he came to Tempe, but he passed away before he managed to get back here. And a friend of mine, who is a recording engineer, helped set up home studios for Danny Elfman and Donald Fagen, "fired" Warren Zevon for being too argumentative/demanding, and got Robert Plant a personal trainer in the L.A. area. Celebrity contact (or secondary contact) can be fun, but I really wouldn't call it "degrees of separation". I mean Nuppy can claim 2 degrees from Robyn based on working with Matthew Seligman, but I really couldn't claim 3 degrees based on being a friend of Brian's--even though I've met Robyn probably over 20 times and drank heavily one night with Matthew. Still doesn't stop the enjoyment of the contact, Marc Take away the right to say 'fuck' and you take away the right to say 'fuck the government'. Lenny Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:52:53 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: initial Bonnaroo lineup announced Damned "control+enter". I hate sending a mail that's not finished. Anyways, since I started it in the wrongly-sent mail I'll finish it off. I'm not sure I can justify dropping up to $215.00 to go to an event where I'm only into 13% of the content. Their bizarro pricing scheme makes me wonder: "The first tickets will be priced at a special rate of $184.50 each. There is a limited allotment of tickets at this price. When the first allotment is sold out, ticket prices will increase without notice to $199.50 and then again without notice to $214.50." Makes me wonder how many of those first tickets are there? 10? The Want to See - --------------- The Police Tool Wilco The Flaming Lips Franz Ferdinand Gov't Mule The Decemberists Wolfmother The Richard Thompson Band Brazilian Girls The Detested - ------------ Widespread Panic String Cheese Incident Bob Weir & Ratdog Kings of Leon Fountains Of Wayne Hot Tuna The Already Seen But Don't Care Either Way - ------------------------------------------ Ben Harper Ween Ziggy Marley Black Keys The Unknowns - ------------ Manu Chao Damien Rice Galactic DJ Shadow Gillian Welch Spoon Keller Williams (WMD's) Sasha & John Digweed STS9 Old Crow Medicine Show The Hold Steady North Mississippi Allstars Feist Hot Chip John Butler Trio Ralph Stanley & the Clinch Mountain Boys Aesop Rock Dierks Bentley Xavier Rudd Gogol Bordello Junior Brown Tortoise T-Bone Burnett Mavis Staples Clutch Cold War Kids Dr. Dog Paolo Nutini RX Bandits The Nightwatchman The Slip Girl Talk Railroad Earth Martha Wainwright Rodrigo y Gabriela Annuals Tea Leaf Green Sam Roberts Band Elvis Perkins in Dearland Charlie Louvin Sonya Kitchell Mute Math Apollo Sunshine Uncle Earl James Blood Ulmer The National The Little Ones Black Angels Ryan Shaw Lewis Black & Friends David Cross Dave Attell Michael Franti & Spearhead Regina Spektor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:11:56 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: six degrees of prime number theory Hi Fegs, In my ongoing attempt to make every Feg thread a MATH thread... Well the problem was this was all left up to Kevin Bacon fans and playwrights. These chumps didn't bother to axiomatize their system! Thankfully, mathematics has its own version of the Bacon number, called Erdos number. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number The little picture that spells it all out. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Erdosnumber.png for a larger version of this little picture. Paul Erdos was a wonderful mathematician whose adventures in prime number theory are chronicled in the very readable "The Man Who Loved Only Numbers". Kay Redfield Jamison (not a mathematician) liked it, so will you: http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Loved-Only-Numbers/dp/0786884061/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_k2a_1_txt/104-8458211-2127155 Mathematics once again trumps popular culture, this time in circumventing arguments about fencepost errors by having clear definitions. Now mathematicians are left with plenty of time to for the important stuff like finding the last digit of pi. GO MATH! If that is too geeky for you, just throw it all together and hit "blend": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s-Bacon_number xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:27:39 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: estrogen, etc. On 2/13/07, natalie jacobs wrote: > > > Or maybe I'm just jealous because she's banging Bill Callahan from > Smog. I > dunno. He opened for her when I saw the show in Eugene. He is a handsome man with a handsome voice. But his songs were all a little.... and I hesitate to use this word... samey. V. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:57:37 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: cute babes (was Re: piping in) On 2/13/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Hi Fegs, > > Re: Joanna Newsom...I'm completely shallow with this one and only fell > for her after I saw how damn cute she is in this video: > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=125186 > > She has that sort of "not here" quality that attracts me to some other > female singers e.g. Bjork and Tori Amos. They're all a bit > otherwordly. I hear that Newsom/Bjork comparison a lot and don't get it, musically or vocally at least. In fact I don't see much common ground between these three other than that they're female and yet non-Sheryl-Crow-like. They seem to practice very distinct forms of aerie-faeiriness to my ears. In fact, I have other specific vocal associations for all three: Newsom -> an art-damaged Victoria Williams; Tori --> a differently art-damaged Kate Bush; Bjork --> and Iceland-damaged Ari Up. (Out of all six, I quite like five as artists but only find one "hot"-- that'd be Up, but even she is out-hotted by her own ex-guitarist, Viv Albertine. Viv Albertine... sigh...) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:09:05 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Musical guidance! On 2/14/07, hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > > > * I hear that Pentangle reformed for some award ceremony recently and > cocked up 'Bruton Town' thoroughly, only getting together on 'Light > Flight'. I would stick to the Bert and John duo and solo albums myself. Talking of which, why was there no talk here of the last Jansch record? Comments? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:48:19 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Free Lecture Today! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143&q=google+tech+talks I wrote an e-mail about how interesting this stuff is, but I managed to make it sound dull and confusing instead. So I'll just say that if you like computer science, the World Wide Web, or puzzles you might enjoy watching it. I think von Ahn's a great lecturer as well...but, then, I'm easily impressed. Here's von Ahn's website: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~biglou/ (Great photograph there.) And here's where you can play the game: http://images.google.com/imagelabeler/ Keep it under 15 hours a shot or you'll be cut off. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:09:21 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: cute babes (was Re: piping in) Hi Fegs, Rex says; > I hear that Newsom/Bjork comparison a lot and don't get it, musically or > vocally at least. In fact I don't see much common ground between these > three other than that they're female and yet non-Sheryl-Crow-like. They > seem to practice very distinct forms of aerie-faeiriness to my ears. I didn't to imply that they are alike musically or vocally. I don't think they are. It's more a quality that I can't describe well except to say that they seem to be in their own worlds. Perhaps it's that I assume that they each have a rather unique way of looking at the world (actually Robyn has that quality as well but perhaps because he's male, he doesn't seem that mysterious in the way these gals do.) You know that guy Glenn who wrote "The War Against Silence" column...he wrote quite a bit about Tori Amos. The old VHS "video collection" of Tori Amos had video of her talking about her songs and her music between the video hits. And Glenn describes the feeling of watching and listening to her talk as something to the effect of "you just keep expecting to see her start petting a unicorn that's just out of frame." Or something like that. Now I don't go for that new age / unicorn / crystal crap and don't associate it with Tori Amos, but Glenn's right on target here. It's like she's always in Tori-World. And Bjork's always in "Bjork-World" and Joanna Newsom's...well, you get it. xo Lauren P.S. Whoever the hell is responsible for the "crustaceans ripped my flesh" e-mail header that my account caught should be pleased that I get a little queasy every time I hit "compose message." I can see the movie in my head. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #48 *******************************