From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #41 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, February 9 2007 Volume 16 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the truth is framed with lies ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: the truth is framed with lies [2fs ] Re: Spellchecker surrealism [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Spellchecker surrealism [2fs ] Jennifers mp3s ["John Irvine" ] Re: Fellow Fegs ! ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: the truth is framed with lies [craigie* ] Re: the truth is framed with lies ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Fellow Fegs ! [Rex ] Re: Spellchecker surrealism [wojbearpig ] Moviemaniax [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Moviemaniax [Rex ] Re: Moviemaniax [2fs ] Re: Moviemaniax [Rex ] Re: Moviemaniax [Steve Talkowski ] RE: Moviemaniax ["Bachman, Michael" ] what when which? [2fs ] Re: what when which? [Tom Clark ] Re: what when which? [Rex ] Re: what when which? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Moviemaniax [Rex ] Re: what when which? [Rex ] RE: Moviemaniax [Jeff Dwarf ] Beisbol has been berry berry good to Bawb? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Online Gossip [Tom Clark ] Step aside, Peter Green ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Step aside, Peter Green [2fs ] Re: Step aside, Peter Green ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] RE: Step aside, Peter Green ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Step aside, Peter Green [Steve Schiavo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:30:44 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: the truth is framed with lies Hi Fegs, Benjamin Lukoff says: > The first MUST be true, by definition, if > you're using a certain form of mathematics, no? I mean, it all hinges on > systems and definitions, but given the definition of one, must not twice > one be two? I actually have to prove that once for a problem set. It's much harder or much easier than you would think, depending on your point of view. The particular definitions we were studying were the Peano axioms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_axioms This stuff is actually my favourite part of mathematics. It always seemed kind of honest that way mathematics spells out exactly what is assumed to be true and what follows as truth from assumptions. I mean, when was the last time a mathematician tried to pull one over on you? It's not even called a "lie", it's called a "mistake." I'm not even completely kidding when I say this. (I'm sure Betrand Russell says this much better if only I could conveniently locate some Betrand Russell quotes.) Yes, you're thrilled, now go back to your guitar rock. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:18:50 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Spellchecker surrealism Normally, I wouldn't report something as mundane as the surreal options handed out by my spellchecker, but this one had me conjuring up some marvellous images. Apparently, if my spellchecker is to be believed, last week Indianapolis beat Chicago to win this year's Superb Owl. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:45:03 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Spellchecker surrealism On 2/8/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > Normally, I wouldn't report something as mundane as the surreal > options handed out by my spellchecker, but this one had me conjuring > up some marvellous images. > > Apparently, if my spellchecker is to be believed, last week > Indianapolis beat Chicago to win this year's Superb Owl. If The Great Quail ever did need a secondary alias, that would be the awesomest one evar. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:09:41 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: the truth is framed with lies On 2/8/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > > even within the relative certainty of mathematics, there are > mysteries. the exact value of pi can only be approximated. You're confusing what can be "exactly" expressed in a certain kind of language (that of decimal numerals) with "exact value" mathematically. As Benjamin pointed out, pi has an exact value, and it's very easy to specify in terms of geometry - in fact, that's what pi *is*: the concept of "pi" arose from studying the interrelations among geometric elements. Outside of the relation of circles' diameter and circumference, there is no "pi" just floating free out there in the universe. But - there's no "mystery" about its value at all. (Those better versed in mathematics than myself, please feel free to amend anything I've said here.) It is probably true that *language* can never exactly specify something...but you're making the same error pop-media versions of postmodernism make: they confuse the claim that "language can never exactly define anything because the structure of language is built on opposition and/or relation (as in metaphor)" with the claim that "nothing is true." Just because one cannot write a sentence that means one and only one thing at all times and in places does not mean that whatever, in any given instance, the speaker wishes the sentence to refer to does not itself exist. Where "red" begins and ends is arbitrary and culturally variant; it doesn't follow that "there's no such thing as red." zero is a quantification for nothing. and then there's numerology. I'm not sure why the first sentence is a problem: there are mathematical situations in which "nothing," or "no value," is the only possible answer - and of course zero in the concept of place-holder revolutionized mathematics. Numerology isn't mathematics any more than ASCII art is language. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Spellchecker surrealism what crappy spellchecker do you use? :) On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Normally, I wouldn't report something as mundane as the surreal > options handed out by my spellchecker, but this one had me conjuring > up some marvellous images. > > Apparently, if my spellchecker is to be believed, last week > Indianapolis beat Chicago to win this year's Superb Owl. > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:37:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Spellchecker surrealism On 2/8/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > Normally, I wouldn't report something as mundane as the surreal > options handed out by my spellchecker, but this one had me conjuring > up some marvellous images. > > Apparently, if my spellchecker is to be believed, last week > Indianapolis beat Chicago to win this year's Superb Owl. I thought that was the quidditch championship. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:58:22 -0500 From: "John Irvine" Subject: Jennifers mp3s Thanks for the heads up on the bad links on the Jennifers site. They be fixed now. - -John http://www.thejennifers.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:11:58 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! yep. i think good ol' "miller" from *Repo Man* was dead on it in re the "lattice of coincidence". that said, it bugs hell out of me when movies utilise coincidence in order to advance the plot. anyhow, i've uploaded the new-ish criterion pressing of *Yi Yi* to alt.binaries.dvdr -- including both the commentary track from this release, as well as that from the fox-lorber release. this is probably my third-fave movie of the last twenty years, after *The Kingdom I & II* and *Delicatessen*. so, "dig in!", sez i. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:58:39 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: the truth is framed with lies of course, in Binary (which we're all using - more or less - as our computers' interpret our keypresses into 'our' language) 1+1=10 just thought i should touch base (2) :-) c* On 09/02/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 2/8/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > > > > > > even within the relative certainty of mathematics, there are > > mysteries. the exact value of pi can only be approximated. > > > You're confusing what can be "exactly" expressed in a certain kind of > language (that of decimal numerals) with "exact value" mathematically. As > Benjamin pointed out, pi has an exact value, and it's very easy to specify > in terms of geometry - in fact, that's what pi *is*: the concept of "pi" > arose from studying the interrelations among geometric elements. Outside > of > the relation of circles' diameter and circumference, there is no "pi" just > floating free out there in the universe. But - there's no "mystery" about > its value at all. (Those better versed in mathematics than myself, please > feel free to amend anything I've said here.) > > It is probably true that *language* can never exactly specify > something...but you're making the same error pop-media versions of > postmodernism make: they confuse the claim that "language can never > exactly > define anything because the structure of language is built on opposition > and/or relation (as in metaphor)" with the claim that "nothing is true." > Just because one cannot write a sentence that means one and only one thing > at all times and in places does not mean that whatever, in any given > instance, the speaker wishes the sentence to refer to does not itself > exist. > Where "red" begins and ends is arbitrary and culturally variant; it > doesn't > follow that "there's no such thing as red." > > > zero is a quantification for nothing. and then there's numerology. > > > I'm not sure why the first sentence is a problem: there are mathematical > situations in which "nothing," or "no value," is the only possible answer > - > and of course zero in the concept of place-holder revolutionized > mathematics. > > Numerology isn't mathematics any more than ASCII art is language. > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:36:50 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: the truth is framed with lies craigie* wrote: > of course, in Binary (which we're all using - more or less - as our > computers' interpret our keypresses into 'our' language) 1+1=10 And with sound, 2 dB + 2 dB = 5 dB. Stewart ps: "New Magnetic Wonder" rocks. If you don't like it, you suck and are mean. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:11:29 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: the truth is framed with lies On 2/9/07, craigie* wrote: > > of course, in Binary (which we're all using - more or less - as our > computers' interpret our keypresses into 'our' language) 1+1=10 There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:37:42 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fellow Fegs ! On 2/8/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > anyhow, i've uploaded the new-ish criterion pressing of *Yi Yi* to > alt.binaries.dvdr -- including both the commentary track from this > release, > as well as that from the fox-lorber release. this is probably my > third-fave movie of the last twenty years, after *The Kingdom I & II* and > *Delicatessen*. so, "dig in!", sez i. Whoa. I have the giant French 3-sheet for "Delicatessen" hanging in place of pride on my dining room wall, and at least once a month experience an instant of frustration that "Kingdom" will never be completed. Again, Eddie's tastes vaccillate between complete agreement and extreme variance from mine. Shame about the throbbing-cock-less subject line, though. - -R ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:18:29 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: Spellchecker surrealism one time at band camp, Rex (spottedeagleray@gmail.com) said: >On 2/8/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >> >> Normally, I wouldn't report something as mundane as the surreal >> options handed out by my spellchecker, but this one had me conjuring >> up some marvellous images. >> >> Apparently, if my spellchecker is to be believed, last week >> Indianapolis beat Chicago to win this year's Superb Owl. >If The Great Quail ever did need a secondary alias, that would be the >awesomest one evar. or a sidekick. hmmmm. should we start calling lj that? woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:35:01 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Moviemaniax - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 9. Februar 2007 08:37:42 -0800 regarding Re: Fellow Fegs !: >> this is probably my >> third-fave movie of the last twenty years, after *The Kingdom I & II* and >> *Delicatessen*. so, "dig in!", sez i. > > > Whoa. I have the giant French 3-sheet for "Delicatessen" hanging in place > of pride on my dining room wall, and at least once a month experience an > instant of frustration that "Kingdom" will never be completed. FWIW: I love "Kingdom", but always thought that "Delicatessen" is overrated. I haven't seen it in a long time, so for all I know I might love it now too, but I generally don't enjoy Jeunet movies as much as the rest of the world seems to do. I actively disliked "Amelie" and I don't remember "Alien 4" much. "The City of Lost Children" is his only film I really enjoyed. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:50:52 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Moviemaniax On 2/9/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > FWIW: I love "Kingdom", but always thought that "Delicatessen" is > overrated. I haven't seen it in a long time, so for all I know I might > love > it now too, but I generally don't enjoy Jeunet movies as much as the rest > of the world seems to do. I actively disliked "Amelie" and I don't > remember > "Alien 4" much. "The City of Lost Children" is his only film I really > enjoyed. ...and I have the giant French 3-sheet for *that* one on my office wall at work, and thus in front of me right now. I'm not a giant fan of "Amelie" (although it's enjoyable) or anything else by them; just happened to live in Paris when "Delicatessen" came out, and it made quite an impression. I was a college sophomore, so factor that in, too... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:01:29 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Moviemaniax On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: > > > > I'm not a giant fan of "Amelie" (although it's enjoyable) I collect large-scale fans. I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:10:43 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Moviemaniax On 2/9/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm not a giant fan of "Amelie" (although it's enjoyable) > > > I collect large-scale fans. > > I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. I'm a fairly large fan of Giant Sand... and Howe! Please don't hurt me. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:12:22 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Moviemaniax On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I actively disliked "Amelie" and I don't remember "Alien 4" much. Not much to remember, except nice art direction and that amazing computer animated Alien creature (first time in the series) animated - - along with 4 others - by yours truly. ;) I had been a fan of Jeunet's until actually having to work (albeit, indirectly) with him. He came across as the stereotypical French tyrant - insulting, difficult to work with, walking out on conference calls, etc. I partly attribute this to FOX being rather demanding, considering this was his first big Hollywood film on such a (then) prestigious franchise, but that still doesn't excuse his rude behavior. - -Steve (eMailing from pool-side in sunny South Beach, Miami, dreading my return to 50 degrees colder weather tonight when I return to NY) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:17:07 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Moviemaniax - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:01 PM To: Not Reg Subject: Re: Moviemaniax On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: >> I'm not a giant fan of "Amelie" (although it's enjoyable) Jeff Norman: >I collect large-scale fans. >I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. What if there was a huge stadium fan blowing on the SF Giants fan to keep them cool on hot days? If you loved that fan, then you could be a giant fan of the giant fan blowing on the Giant fans!George Carlin had a comdey bit about being high on a plane that was somewhat similar. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:19:24 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: what when which? On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 2/9/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > I collect large-scale fans. > > > > I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. > > > I'm a fairly large fan of Giant Sand... and Howe! > Okay, there should be a show featuring The WHO, HOWe Gelb...uh, Robert WYatt...help me here, c'mon... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:26:48 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: what when which? On Feb 9, 2007, at 10:19 AM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: >> >> On 2/9/07, 2fs wrote: >>> >>> I collect large-scale fans. >>> >>> I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. >> >> >> I'm a fairly large fan of Giant Sand... and Howe! > > > Okay, there should be a show featuring The WHO, HOWe Gelb...uh, Robert > WYatt...help me here, c'mon... What??? - -c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:27:01 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: what when which? > Okay, there should be a show featuring The WHO, HOWe Gelb...uh, Robert > WYatt...help me here, c'mon... Steve Wynn (or Winn Butler), and... Bob Weir? Hey, I'm tryin'... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:27:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: what when which? 2fs wrote: > On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: > > On 2/9/07, 2fs wrote: > > > I collect large-scale fans. > > > I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. > > I'm a fairly large fan of Giant Sand... and Howe! > Okay, there should be a show featuring The WHO, HOWe > Gelb...uh, Robert WYatt...help me here, c'mon... Mike Watt.... "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:36:19 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Moviemaniax On 2/9/07, Steve Talkowski wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > I actively disliked "Amelie" and I don't remember "Alien 4" much. > > Not much to remember, except nice art direction and that amazing > computer animated Alien creature (first time in the series) animated > - along with 4 others - by yours truly. ;) I could swear that the alien in ALIEN3(to the 3rd power) was CG for like two seconds, but I'm sure you know better. It's funny how the kind of good theory that evolved for that series-- each film bearing the distinctive stamp of its respective director, a rare thing for such a franchise-- ended up creating just as many crappy installments as good ones; usually it's over-Hollywoodizing that sinks a series, but this one was kind of undone by increasing iconoclasm, it seems. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:38:07 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: what when which? On 2/9/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > On 2/9/07, Rex wrote: > > > On 2/9/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > I collect large-scale fans. > > > > I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. > > > I'm a fairly large fan of Giant Sand... and Howe! > > Okay, there should be a show featuring The WHO, HOWe > > Gelb...uh, Robert WYatt...help me here, c'mon... > > Mike Watt.... ... and J Mascis's new band Witch. (Whom I haven't heard, but the idea sounds bad... Mascis does metal?) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:40:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Moviemaniax Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com wrote: > Jeff Norman: > >I collect large-scale fans. > >I guess that makes me a giant fan of giant fans. > > What if there was a huge stadium fan blowing on the > SF Giants fan to keep them cool on hot days? I believe that was called Candlestick.... > If you loved that fan, then you could be a giant fan > of the giant fan > blowing on the Giant fans!George Carlin had a comdey > bit about being > high on a plane that was somewhat similar. > > Michael B. > "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:48:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Beisbol has been berry berry good to Bawb? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20070205&content_id=1795304&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:09:34 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Online Gossip Hi List, I think the IMDB gossip section has jumped the shark. I have been a daily reader and appreciate it for for its brevity. Know so much, read so little! At any rate, I was saddened to see the equivalent of like a *three* paragraph entry on Anna Nicole to-day: http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-02-09/ Not to mention way too much explanation with that Ryan O'Neal situation. It's too complicated for the usual IMDB gossip section standards. Look at all those words! I lost focus after the first sentence. Anyone have an alternative site? xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:24:03 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Online Gossip On Feb 9, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Hi List, > > I think the IMDB gossip section has jumped the shark. I have been a > daily reader and appreciate it for for its brevity. Know so much, > read so little! > > At any rate, I was saddened to see the equivalent of like a *three* > paragraph entry on Anna Nicole to-day: > > http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-02-09/ > > Anyone have an alternative site? http://www.fark.com/ - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:23:20 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Step aside, Peter Green Hi Fegs, The Rolling Stone arrived to-day and it tells me that your Mr. Plant and Mr.Page may get the boot by none only than Mr. John Mayer, only one of the New Gods of Guitar: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/the_new_guitar_gods_john_mayer_john_frusciante_derek_trucks Assuming that there's only so much room in the pinnacle of Guiter-Godness. And when did Mr. Mayer change his "boyish-good looks" from "Dawson's Creek" to "Now I Smoke Pot"? Okay, this is kind of mean. I image he's an easy target. I have nothing against the man. Oh, I take that back. He deserves all he can get for "Your Body is a Wonderland." Barf. xo Lauren N.P. "I Believe She's Lying" - Jon Brion - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:33:33 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Step aside, Peter Green On 2/9/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Hi Fegs, > > The Rolling Stone arrived to-day and it tells me that your Mr. Plant > and Mr.Page may get the boot by none only than Mr. John Mayer, only > one of the New Gods of Guitar: > > > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/the_new_guitar_gods_john_mayer_john_frusciante_derek_trucks > Ah, Rolling Stone...always up to the tippy-top minute in trends. I mean, Messrs. Frusciante and Trucks have only been releasing records for slightly more than a single decade! (By "records" I of course mean "Edison cylinders"...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:41:12 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Step aside, Peter Green Hi Fegs, 2fs says: > Ah, Rolling Stone...always up to the tippy-top minute in trends. Speaking of easy targets... xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:04:43 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Step aside, Peter Green Lauren: > by none only than Mr. John Mayer, only one of the New Gods of Guitar Not that he needs defending (and I despise The Stone), but Mayer is a very, very good guitarist. Coming up through the ranks, he even penned an instructional column for one of the guitar mags - I forget which one - - that was better than most. Re guitarisms: I was interested in MRG's earlier definition of a good solo, finding myself in general agreement with his criteria...after putting a bit of thought into it, it seems like my all-time faves matched up pretty well. Limelight (Rush - Alex Lifeson) Fight the Good Fight (Triumph - Rik Emmett) Rock and Roll (Zep - Jimmy Page) Aqualung (Jethro Tull - Martin Barre) Just about anything by Les Paul Wabash Cannonball (Doyle Dykes version) All Along the Watchtower (Hendrix) Tightrope (Stevie Ray Vaughan) I Don't Know (Ozzy - Randy Rhoades) Comfortably Numb (Pink Floyd - David Gilmour) Michael P.s. scoop: I'm the father of Anna Nicole's baby! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:29:36 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Step aside, Peter Green On Feb 9, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Michael Wells wrote: > Limelight (Rush - Alex Lifeson) If the Wikipedia entry is correct, Lifeson did something for the upcoming Porcupine Tree album, Fear of a Blank Planet. Also Fripp. - - Steve ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #41 *******************************