From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #35 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, February 3 2007 Volume 16 : Number 035 Today's Subjects: ----------------- =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Re:_Re:_the_dBs_=97_(I_Thought)_You_Wanted _To_Know?= [Rex ] Re: Someone must care... [FSThomas ] what women like [Jill Brand ] Re: Someone must care... [2fs ] Reap(er) ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Green vs Page and why the Who Rule all ! [great white shark ] Re: Reap(er) [2fs ] Re: Green vs Page and why the Who Rule all ! [2fs ] Re: what women like ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Reap(er) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: what dad's like ["Bri N" ] Re: LZ/Peter Green's Mac ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: what dad's like ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: what dad's like [2fs ] Re: what dad's like ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Blues-rock guitar [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: what dad's like [2fs ] Re: Reap(er) [Tom Clark ] Strange Welsh viola players [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] van halen is dead, long live van halen ["michael wells" Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Re:_Re:_the_dBs_=97_(I_Thought)_You_Wanted _To_Know?= On 2/2/07, michaeljbachman@comcast.net wrote: > > Music For A New Society looks to be out of print. Some hefty prices for > used copies are available. Hopefully this get reissued sometime soon, as > it's a gap in my 1982 albums. > I think I got mine used and cheap, but probably more years ago than I'd like to think. It's quite good, if not top-flight sound-wise... really good songs, mostly. ISTR that the original CD is somewhat retinkered from the vinyl version? I finally ordered another 1982 missing masterpiece today, The Fall's "Hex > Enducation Hour". Anyone have the remastered edition > If you get it, let us know. That might be the best Fall record ever, which is saying something. (I also think it's "Enduction", but I've been known to misread MES prose for years on end before...) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:04:19 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Someone must care... http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Peaks-Second-Season/dp/B000M3439E/sr=8-1/qid=1170467585/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8458211-2127155?ie=UTF8&s=dvd I watched a fair amount of Season 2 on VHS a few months back. I enjoyed a great deal, much more than the first time around. I think I appreciate Season 2's "over-the-top" nature a bit more now. But man, I can't believe some of the shit that Lynch got away with. The tapes were complete with commercials. They were pretty amusing to see; I was surprised at how dated they were (although 1990 was allegedly 17 years ago)...it was back during those great "MCI vs. Sprint" holy wars. xo Lauren P.S. Did they ever do anything about the pilot episode? Last I heard, the only DVD available was a low-quality import. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:22:39 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Someone must care... Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Peaks-Second-Season/dp/B000M3439E/sr=8-1/qid=1170467585/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8458211-2127155?ie=UTF8&s=dvd One show and director who never ever held any interest for me. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 22:40:15 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: what women like Lauren wrote: "Agreed on Robert Plant's vocals. Not to mention his prancing around all shirtless like he thinks he's damn Usher." Yeah, Lauren. See, we'd probably rather see Howard Devoto prance around shirtless. His prancing was always so much more, um, interesting than most. I remember meeting him in 1983 (I remember what I was wearing). I was all kinds of nervous, and he was just this quiet, introspective little guy. Then, on stage, he was a bit maniacal, like an imploded Robyn. Now, THERE'S someone I would kind of kill to see again (HD, not Robyn, because I am seeing Robyn again and I don't have to kill anyone). Go Bears. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:46:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Someone must care... On 2/2/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Peaks-Second-Season/dp/B000M3439E/sr=8-1/qid=1170467585/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8458211-2127155?ie=UTF8&s=dvd Finally! I watched a fair amount of Season 2 on VHS a few months back. I > enjoyed a great deal, much more than the first time around. I think I > appreciate Season 2's "over-the-top" nature a bit more now. But man, > I can't believe some of the shit that Lynch got away with. When I lasted watched Season 2 on VHS some years ago, I was surprised at how different it was from my memory. There were definitely some lame moments (the whole teen-romance thing; the James/Mystery Woman thing - hell, everything with James) - but those moments were nowhere near as dominant as they were in my memory. Part of that was that as broadcast, they were spread out over many episodes - and given the way the network was treating the series at the time (moving it from night to night, pre-empting it constantly, reducing the screen to half-size for "important" updates on the first Gulf War), it was even longer than the equivalent number of weeks. The tapes were complete with commercials. They were pretty amusing to > see; I was surprised at how dated they were (although 1990 was > allegedly 17 years ago)...it was back during those great "MCI vs. > Sprint" holy wars. Yeah, it's pretty amusing watching ads from years ago. I have a few old videos like that, complete with ads. I rarely drag them out - nowadays if I really want to watch something like that that I have on tape, I'll usually rent a DVD from Netflix rather than watch a crappy old VHS tape. Of course, some things aren't on DVD at all. P.S. Did they ever do anything about the pilot episode? Last I heard, > the only DVD available was a low-quality import. It's a rights issue: different companies own the rights to the pilot and to the rest of the season. I have an import from Hong Kong of the pilot - and yes, compared to the restored prints used in the Season One DVDs, it looks pretty miserable - all washed out with mushy sound. I certainly hope someone somewhere releases a decently remastered, cleaned-up edition sometime. - -- ...Jeff Norman, who placed his advance order at Amazon about as soon as he could click the appropriate buttons after following the link... The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 23:17:57 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Reap(er) From this week's New Yorker: http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=2F0VUMTHSLEX9KMC2397H6KGCXHP3X98&sitetype=1&sid=123610&did=4 xo, Lauren, about to *really* start Problem Set #2 - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 13:48:34 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: Re: Green vs Page and why the Who Rule all ! Fegs As it can only really be the oldest relics on the list who have actually seen Peter g's Fleetwood Mac and Zeppelin live , I suppose I shall have to chime in on this one . I hate to disagree even slightly with Mr Godwin , who I respect and admire for his amazing recollections of bygone gigs ( with which he has helped me with on my www.ukrockfestivals.com web site )but I cannot completely concur with his response re master Page. > > I saw PGFM numerous times, including their debut performance, their > first gig with Danny Kirwan, and their last billed gig with PAG, and > Pete's guitar playing generally soared to heights which Page never > reaches. Listen to 'Jumping At Shadows' on 'Live at the Boston Tea > Party' for an example. And anything off the Shrine Auditorium show. Correct. In both the Live Zeppelin shows I have ( Bath 1970 and Dallas 1969 ) Pagey is less then inspiring . However , the Live shows broadcast on the BBC featuring material from the first album, shows what Page was capable of doing when he wasn't too busy fixating on Al Crowley or worshipping Cthulhu in his spare time. > > But for a super-whizzo-sonic rock player, Page comes second only to > Richie Blackmore. And as an ensemble, LZ set rehearsal and performance > standards on to a very high level. I cannot really agree, in fact I don't think either player really hits the heights on shredding rock geetar , aside from them both being total pratts ( eg : Pages satanism fetish , vile antics with groupies and general wankery on tour- , whilst Blackmore has an astonishingly bad wardrobe, frequently refused to do encores if he thought the audience hadn't responded appropriately enough to stoke his vast ego and he also played 20 minute guitar solos - something any heavy guitarist should never be forgiven for doing ) I have never felt like grinding rocks with my bare teeth, ripping the heads off snakes and drinking their venom or pulling out my own fingernails when listening to either gentleman , either on record or in concert - which I think a proper heavy rock geetarist should make you want to do when they are on top form ..... Who does make me want to indulge in these pleasurable activities, those of you who have bothered to read this far may well ask ? Well , here's a few - Jeff Beck, Tom Morello, John McLaughlin, Foley, Hendrix , Townshend ,Steve Hillage and Zappa - all of whom generally avoid cliche and know when NOT to play,whilst your average heavy rock guitarist usually has no concept that there should be space and dynamics in their playing. > Whether or not you like Robert > Plant's vocals (and I emphatically don't) they always put on a > memorable show. Always is a dangerous word - Bath is a giant yawn ,yet its supposed to be one of Zeps best shows ever - Bonham's solo is ponderous and the rock and roll medley boring . Page is average and all is predictability, basically I think the Who blew Zeppelin offstage in ALL ways, material, personnel, stage act and ethics and given their showing at the Rock Proms recently , they can still do so even though Pete and Roger are nearing pension age ! der commander ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 22:53:09 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: what women like (football and meat) Jill: > Go Bears. Let's say that during a Devin Hester missed FG return for a TD, Tank Johnson rolls up Vinatieri and breaks his leg in about five places. Would that make things better? I think it might. At this point we just need the game to get here; with the flameout last year and having Rex at the helm this season, I'm not sure anyone believed it would actually happen. After a quiet week to digest the fact, there's been a wind-up that's unreal (in '85 it was spread out over a whole season, here it's all being crammed into a few short days). Today's observations: The prop bets have now reached that bizarre cross-culture nexus where you can wager on anything. There's a money line on Dixie Chicks Grammy wins (-140) vs. Peyton Manning rushing attempts, and LeBron is giving 1/2 point in the Cavs/Pacers game vs. the Colts total in the Super Bowl. Strapped for cash after today's squares purchase(s), I think I even bet my belly button lint on a Bears sack total. I can't be sure. It's all a blur at this point. Simmons has predicted Chicago will smash the Steelers record last year for most fans with a mustache in town during Super Bowl week. He's not kidding. The food talk has gotten completely out of hand. Everyone is going somewhere, to somebody's house, and bringing a whole lot of meat to share. No ethnicity escapes: Polish, Germans, Mexicans, Irish, Slavic, Africans, you name it. Everybody is putting on the hog at the same time. You've never heard so much talk of wing recipes, roasts, grill tips, keg runs and the like. It is glorious. I'm sure there are other things happening in town on Sunday, but I honestly couldn't tell you what. Michael Ps. in honor of the forthcoming party, here's my fave Onion article of all time: CHICAGO-A deadly meatwave swept through the Chicago area over the weekend, leaving an estimated 40 residents dead of steaks, chops, ribs, bacon, and various other forms of meat exhaustion. "This is easily the worst meatwave I've seen around these parts since the summer of '79," said John Gruznek, a Chicago gravicologist. "Most of the bodies I've examined were bloated beyond all recognition." "The excessively high level of pork loins, sirloin tips, bratwurst, and other meats was indisputably the number-one factor in these deaths," said Chicago mayor Richard Daley, speaking from his temporary command center at Ruth's Chris Steak House on North Dearborn Street. "Most of these people consumed a considerable fraction of their weight in animal flesh before ultimately succumbing to meatstroke." "This meatwave," Daley continued, "is a clear hazard to anyone capable of chewing and swallowing Chicago's vast array of delicious, succulent meats." Max Peltz, director of Emergency Medical Services And Barbecue for Cook County, said that non-stop ingestion of beef, pork, chicken, lamb, and veal had caused the victims' digestive systems-and, ultimately, their entire bodies-to shut down. "The human body, as you may be aware, is roughly 60 percent water," Peltz said. "However, many don't realize that it's also 75 percent meat. If that percentage rises too high too quickly, it may result in a distended stomach, intestinal bloating, and even death. Believe me, it's not a pretty way to go. A coroner never forgets the first time he examines the body of someone who died from roast-traumatic stress." According to Peltz, the meatwave victims' causes of death have ranged from cardiac beefurcation to smoked-sausage inhalation. There has even been one confirmed indirect meat-related fatality, a 51-year-old Evanston man who died from a catastrophic smothering in mushrooms and onions. Chicago public-health officials are urging residents to stay in their homes, advising them to lay out extra napkins and carving forks, drink plenty of water, and venture outside only to procure Zantac, Tums, and Immodium AD. Yet despite such warnings, the meatwave-related casualties continue to mount. "This happens every few years in Chicago," said emergency worker Peter Barreras. "People in this town act pretty tough, and they always say the same things: 'I can handle the meat.' Or 'You call this a hot dog?' Or, my favorite, 'It's just a hot wing. How much can one little hot wing hurt me?' Well, I'll tell you. A lot." Barreras said that for a meatstroke victim, familiarity with basic first-aid can be the difference between life and death. "If you or someone you're eating with collapses from The Meats, know what to do," Barreras said. "Many people think that administering them emergency salads or tofu is the way to go, but the shock to the system is too great. Bring their meat index down gently and gradually by first immersing them in cold cuts. Call a doctor and talk to them while you wait for help to arrive. Under no circumstances should you let them have another pork chop, ham slice, or New York strip. Administer a solution of turkey tetrachloride, give them coffee, and don't let them lose consciousness." Meateorologists speculate that the deadly meatwave was caused by a stationary high-protein ridge extending along the shore of Lake Michigan. They fear that Milwaukee and Kansas City could be next. "Mother Nature sure has cooked us up a big one this time," Peltz said. "If it's this bad now, imagine what'll land on the city's plate during Taste Of Chicago." If the meatwave continues through next week as predicted, the death toll could reach 100, making it the worst natural food disaster since the San Francisco Panquake of 1970. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:26:56 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Someone must care... On 2/2/07, 2fs wrote: > > > It's a rights issue: different companies own the rights to the pilot and > to > the rest of the season. I have an import from Hong Kong of the pilot - and > yes, compared to the restored prints used in the Season One DVDs, it looks > pretty miserable - all washed out with mushy sound. > > I certainly hope someone somewhere releases a decently remastered, > cleaned-up edition sometime. This matter is, literally, part of my job, and even I don't know when it's going to be fixed. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 23:27:15 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Reap(er) On 2/2/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > From this week's New Yorker: > > > http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=2F0VUMTHSLEX9KMC2397H6KGCXHP3X98&sitetype=1&sid=123610&did=4 I noticed that the site clarifies that this is a wordless cartoon by putting the word "captionless" beneath the cartoon. But how would that be distinguishable from a cartoon whose *caption* is "captionless"? New contest: come up with a cartoon suitable to bear the caption "captionless"... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 23:29:55 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Green vs Page and why the Who Rule all ! On 2/2/07, great white shark wrote: > > > > Who does make me want to indulge in these pleasurable activities, > those of you who have bothered to read this far may well ask ? > > Well , here's a few - Jeff Beck, Tom Morello, John McLaughlin, Foley, > Hendrix , Townshend ,Steve Hillage and Zappa - all of whom generally > avoid cliche and know when NOT to play,whilst your average heavy rock > guitarist usually has no concept that there should be space and > dynamics in their playing. Who's "Foley"? And is Tom Morello the guy from Wage from the Machine? I can't quite imagine him in such illustrious company... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:25:54 +1100 (EST) From: Stony Subject: LZ/Peter Green's Mac Although I have very little first-hand experience with Green's Fleetwood Mac, the posts here have intrigued me to go grab some of his/their work. IMHO, any guitarist that can rival Page is definitely worth checking out. LZ certainly ripped off other artists mercilessly, but as I understand it, this is sort of a blues tradition, innit? I remember the first time I saw The Song Remains the Same on VHS in the 80's not long after my family got our first VCR and thinking "Oh my God. Is this what they actually look like?". My father dutifully explained that it was the 70's as if that were explanation enough. Heh-heh. As someone who collects Zeppelin albums, CDs, and live shows, I can authoritatively state that Zeppelin's massive following was built on their explosive live sets, especially the shows before '73. Plant's position in the band wasn't really a foregone conclusion in the early days and he really sang his ass off in the early days. Unfortunately his voice was never the same after the spring of '73 when he caught pneumonia hitchhiking to a gig in Northern England when their van broke down. If you listen to the available bootlegs from throughout their career, you can hear the difference in his voice after this happened. Even though Zeppelin later became a bloated, lumbering dinosaur relying on 30-40 minute guitar and drum solos (perfect time for the other members to have a rest and a snort of blow, or H, or whatever backstage), Zeppelin in their prime were a force to be reckoned with. TSRTS really does not do them justice as a concert documentary. Their recent DVD release How the West Was Won, however, is phenomenal and is worth the bucks for the '69 Royal Albert Hall footage alone and has one of the best DTS mixes I've heard. Or drop by Dime-a-dozen and grab some of the essential boots. 9/29/71 (Last Night in Osaka) and any of the '72 Forum shows (from which HTWWW is taken) spring immediately to my mind. The show that's up on Wolfgang's Vault currently is one of the better shows as well, I think. You know, at least from my perspective, another reason for their immense popularity was being a Zeppelin fan was kind of like joining a secret society, much like the same mystique and allure that Pink Floyd had over me as a kid, or that other English singer/songwriter we're all so fond of. And hell, aren't Robyn and John Paul Jones neighbors and musical collaborators? Can't wait for the Boston Show. I highly doubt it will match my first Robyn experience at The Bottom Line in 2003, but one can only hope. Digging Led Zeppelin in Portland (Maine), Stony There's nothing in the future and there's nothing in the past. There is only this one moment and you gotta make it last. -Robyn Hitchcock Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:20:11 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: what women like Jill Brand wrote: > > Go Bears. They do, in the woods. Stewart (who must've been born without the sports gene) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:29:41 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Reap(er) 2fs wrote: > > New contest: come up with a cartoon suitable to bear the caption > "captionless"... It would certainly improve most of the content of the "funnies" pages in North American newspapers. The Family Circus might actually mean something if it were perpetually captionless. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 07:04:58 -0800 From: "Bri N" Subject: Re: what dad's like Stewart (who must've been born without the sports gene) - ------------ Aye. Me too. My poor poor dad. He was a basketball coach, a soccer coach and when he was in high school played about every sport. To his luck he had two boys. Ironically one was just into computers and electronic gadgets and one just like to climb trees and go play ninja in the woods (uh, me. Even in high school). Now I like to call my dad on the phone 'when nothing important is going on.' Like I'll call him this Sunday around 4:00 and say "Dad, is now a good time to talk?" Actually, I find superbowl sunday a great time to gather musicians for an annual Anti-Superbowl-Festival jam or go to IKEA. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:10:39 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: LZ/Peter Green's Mac Stony wrote: > > You know, at least from my perspective, another reason for their > immense popularity was being a Zeppelin fan was kind of like joining > a secret society Where I'm from, Zep fanhood was a gateway to liking lager and blackcurrant, sporting a dreadful beard, and having a fondness for rollups laced with exceptionally low grade hash. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:18:46 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: what dad's like Bri N wrote: > > Aye. Me too. My poor poor dad. The pain is shared. My dad played rugby at school, and rowed for the university. He ended up with two sons who'd place last and second last in the cross country run, and a daughter who'd rather be singing. I will admit to actually having bought tickets to NBA games, though it took me a while to work out what that countdown from 24 seconds meant. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:49:02 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: what dad's like On 2/3/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > > I will admit to actually having bought tickets to NBA games, though it > took me a while to work out what that countdown from 24 seconds meant. It means Jack Bauer has 24 seconds to score or the terrorists will regain possession of the ball. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:03:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: what dad's like 2fs wrote: > > It means Jack Bauer has 24 seconds to score or the terrorists will regain > possession of the ball. But as Kiefer is the grandson of the creator of the Canadian health care system, doesn't that make him a terrorist? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:36:54 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Blues-rock guitar Mr. Godwin: >> I saw PGFM numerous times, including their debut performance, their >> first gig with Danny Kirwan, and their last billed gig with PAG > Still any argument over who is the coolest Feg, Eddie? * No, I'm just bloody old, that's all... MRG cont'd: >> But for a super-whizzo-sonic rock player, Page comes second only to >> Richie Blackmore. > And what about Buck Dharma? * You know me only too well, Michael! I just love Buck's solos, specially 'Dom and Sub' and 'Last Days of May', but he's not actually a blues guitarist at all**. > ;) Blackmore may be a generational thing; > while I've always been a fan (though his current incarnation is way too > close to Spinal Tap for comfort), and got to seem him twice in the > reformed DP, I seem to prefer players who peaked a bit later - Alex > Lifeson, fer instance. Less of the dinosaur guitar-smashing stuff and > more weird haircuts. * I was thinking specifically of the early live version of 'Highway Star', which has most of the necessary ingredients: worked out first section, transpose up a few frets, repeat a 5th higher, blaze away, then just let the guitar hum with feedback... [Hendrix had the ideas for most of these things but the technology continually let him down in live performance, specially the Strat tremolo arm]. - - Mike 'The Cool Person' Godwin ** Same as Robyn Hitchcock or Jim McGuinn come to think of it... n.p. Edison Lighthouse 'Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 13:56:33 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: what dad's like On 2/3/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > > It means Jack Bauer has 24 seconds to score or the terrorists will > regain > > possession of the ball. > > But as Kiefer is the grandson of the creator of the Canadian health care > system, doesn't that make him a terrorist? Errrr...don't follow that. Explainez-vous... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 14:10:08 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Reap(er) On Feb 3, 2007, at 6:29 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > 2fs wrote: >> New contest: come up with a cartoon suitable to bear the caption >> "captionless"... > > It would certainly improve most of the content of the "funnies" > pages in North American newspapers. The Family Circus might > actually mean something if it were perpetually captionless. And Garfield is actually funny if you erase the cat's dialog... http://www.truthandbeautybombs.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4997 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:03:42 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Strange Welsh viola players >Have to agree with yr assessment. Big John has been a fave of mine >since I first heard Fear in '76. In fact I have Slow Dazzle on LP >and CD, and the Island Years collection too - which is a gem. > >Favorites are Fear and SD, the Animal Justice 12-inch (if only for >"Hedda Gabler"), Music For a New Society and Sabotage/Live. The >Hannibal live set is nice, John Cale Comes Alive less so - though it >does have a lovely version of "The Chinese Envoy." The >collaboration with Eno is pretty good too, and it was fun hearing >him singing Nico's tunes on the VU reunion. Not that fond of his >instrumental work, too much abrasion and not enough payoff. I >haven't heard any of the 60s home recordings that Tony Conrad's put >out but I'm curious. And definitely grooving on the last couple of >"efforts." I'm astonished that no-one has mentioned "Paris 1919" as their favourite yet, it's quieter than most, sure, but it's also a fantastic album. (Maybe they were put off by Rex's suggestion that it makes them a "casual Cale fan"). I'd rate up at the top with "Fear" and "Helen of Troy", with "Wrong Way Up", "Slow Dazzle" and "Fragments" not too far behind. Also have a soft spot for "Church of Anthrax", though I'll admit it's not one I get out to listen to very often - and I'll also admit a liking for his recent "Blackacetate". Never been able to get into the "Last days on earth" album, though. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:38:02 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: van halen is dead, long live van halen http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16960795/ I guess this answers the question about the RNRHOF ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #35 *******************************