From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #33 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 1 2007 Volume 16 : Number 033 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: All About My Day [craigie* ] Permafrost [Jill Brand ] RE: I'm back, Michael ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: science, muck, and algebra [Rex ] Re: I'm back, Michael [Rex ] Re: Reap ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports [Jeff Dwa] Re: Permafrost ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports [2fs ] Re: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports [Jef] A special note from Robyn about his new live EP with The Venus 3 [Steve T] happy the golden prince [ken ostrander ] Re: happy the golden prince [Rex ] Re: A special note from Robyn about his new live EP with The Venus 3 [Rex] RE: happy the golden prince ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: happy the golden prince [Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: All About My Day Robert(a) Swipe, by any chance...? S/he did the same thing to me, but I caught on pretty quick. I mean, R Swipe? Arse wipe? all a bit silly and so off my friends list! c* On 01/02/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > ...well, not really. > > Hi Fegs, > > I just wanted to share with you what might have been an "Egyptian Cream" > moment. > > I've been occassionally corresponding with this woman from the U.K. on > MySpace (no comments from the peanut gallery!) for a few months. She > contacted me because because I like Howard Devoto and Magazine a lot. > We had a few interesting e-mails about music and sort of cultural > differences between U.K. and U.S. that might make for differences in > the music made there...it was very interesting but as I'm pretty much > incapable of keeping up much of an e-mail correspondence, we didn't > really write that much. > > So anyway, it turns out that she's a GUY. I'm not quite sure why he > was not upfront with me, but it does seem to be in the category of > "mistruth" rather than "sexual confusion." I mean, it's not like he > was trying to get me talk about my privates - about as crazy as it got > was when we discussed "Permafrost." > > And anyway, isn't this breaking some kind of internet protocol (i.e. > if person A contacts person on B, isn't person B the one who's > supposed to turn out to be the girl pretending to be a boy?) > > Kind of weird. Hmmmm...maybe I should tell him that I lied, that I'm > a boy, too ;) > > xo > Lauren > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:28:13 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Permafrost Lauren wrote: " mean, it's not like he was trying to get me talk about my privates - about as crazy as it got was when we discussed "Permafrost." I will drug you and fuck you? Oh, I don't know, it may not be about your privates, but it is still pretty private indeed. What's your most quoted HD line? Mine is "Some will pay for what others pay to avoid." My husband's is "My mind it ain't so open that anything can crawl right in." Blither ended. Jill, who really loves all things Howard Devoto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:18:44 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: I'm back, Michael - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:31 AM To: Jill Brand; fgz Subject: Re: I'm back, Michael On 1/31/07, Jill Brand wrote: >> >> >> Is there anyone else here who has never liked Led Zeppelin? I have >> tried really hard, but I can't stand listening to Robert Plant sing. >> I'm sure I've said this here before. Rex came back with: >Yeah, his vocals will never be my bag, but he's struck me as a surprisingly cool guy in recent years, and I give him credit for that. And I still can't listen to the big huge hits (that one in particular) at all. But I started feeling kind of lame for liking everything Yardbirdsy that led up to Zeppelin, and many things which owe a debt to them, so I sucked it up and gave it a try. The not-overplayed stuff has a fair amount of charm, if you can separate it from all the hoo-ha. They'll never be a staple artist for me, but I'm happy to have gotten over my knee-jerk utter disdain for them, > I guess. As far as their blues based songs, LZ couldn't hold a candle to 1968-1970 era Fleetwood Mac. Peter Green was a better blues guitarist than Page and a better blues singer than Planet. Add to the fact they had two additional guitar players who were also singers in Danny Kirwin and Jeremy Spencer, and it's no contest. Too bad Green flipped out on acid, Spencer got abducted by the Children of God cult group (still a member to this day) and Kirwin became a skid row alcoholic. Fleetwood Mac could also play heavy LZ style rock songs as well and do a better job of it than LZ, The Green Manalishi(with the two pronged crown) being a great example. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:23:37 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my flesh-rocket is entering the stratosphere On 2/1/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > things as musical taste:> > > see and > forward for discussion. > You know, rereading that (or reading it: I don't remember if I was on the list then), I found myself unsure whether Sartwell (the guy named in that thread who'd claimed to "scientifically" prove that the Stones were better than the Beatles) was the parody rock critic invented by Jon Wurster of Superchunk and Scharpling & Wurster. Turns out that guy - purportedly author of _Rock, Rot, and Rule_ (serial comma added) - is "Ronald Thomas Clontle." As far as I can tell, "Clontle"'s ideas are no less silly than Sartwell's (at least where rock is concerned: Sartwell's day job, it seems, is as a philosopher. Which only proves that Kierkegaard would not necessarily make a good drummer). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:32:06 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: My name is Eb - no wait, I mean Prince! On 2/1/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > > it seems to me that there is a tendency among scientists (and professors > and pompous dismissive windbags) to poo poo the "unscientific" with terms > like 'pseudo science' and 'junk science'. whether it's astrology or > psychoanalysis or god, there is an attitude of derision and > dismissal. certainly, many people look down on creationists as ignorant and > superstitious. There's a difference between dismissing people or ideas which claim to "explain" things (without any sort of evidence or coherence) and dismissing the *phenomena* (which look rather like fried eggs) the people and those ideas seek to explain. "Pseudo science" is usually pseudo because it dresses up in science clothing but doesn't actually follow scientific method. Where things like astrology or ESP are concerned, the claim is that these are real phenomena - in which case, they ought to be consistently observable and replicable. If they are not, then it's likelier that something else is going on (whether that something is a sham or just misunderstanding). All I know is, if there really are paranormal phenomena, those folks must be saints of poverty - because any one of them could claim a million bucks from James Randi only by proving in a controlled test that paranormal phenomena exist. No one's done it - no one's even gotten past the opening rounds (more info on Wikipedia, if you care). Talking about creativity etc., and talking about the unknown, etc., is quite different from *asserting* that, you know, Jesus can read the minds of unicorns by immersing Elvis's gall bladder in the blood of a virgin at Stonehenge. I don't think it's at all unreasonable to ask people who make such claims to prove it. None of them can. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:15:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Reap 2fs wrote: > Moving away from the Bush-bashing...I am sick of > this "fighting illness" thing. At least he didn't > praise her "courage" in doing so (or maybe he did > - I didn't go to the link). Illness isn't some sort > of bogeyman that comes in the night, which > will "get you" unless you're courageous and willing > to fight. Notwithstanding the relevance of > psychological state in dealing with illness, the > whole figure of speech is pretty pointless...in > that no one, anywhere, has ever been described > as "wimping out in the face of illness" or > being "cowardly and fearful as cancer kicked her > ass." "I'm sorry to say (cancer) can kill you, but it doesn't make you a better person" -- Molly Ivins > Ivins lived a hell of a life, and was an > entertaining, thoughtful, and > passionate writer. Isn't that enough? And was undoubtably a hell of a lot more fun to get drunk with than Shrub too. Probably more fun to do coke with too, if she ever took a snort. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:45:57 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: science, muck, and algebra On 1/31/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > >>>I actually bought my first Zeppelin record last year<<< > > before we let you into the support group, you have to let us know which > album you started with? did you start at the end and work backwards? Just the opposite, figuring I could start with my enjoyment of the Yardbirds, Animals and such, and see how far I could follow the balloon from there. It wasn't a major project or anything, just an area where I wanted to challenge my musical prejudices, and did so with fair results. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:53:59 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I'm back, Michael On 1/31/07, 2fs wrote: > > I forget which song was mentioned - but for me, one of the worst Zeppelin > songs is one of the most played - "Living Loving Maid" (invariably segued > from "Heartbreaker" which also pretty much sucks). I think we discussed exactly this before (although I find myself oddly uncompelled to link to the archive entry where we did), but in addition to the general overexposure to Zep (and the Doors) that one endures when surrounded by the self-styled intellectual/rebellious factions in a small town, it was specifically the fact that the guys in my terrible high school band made me learn the riff the "Livin' Lovin' Maid" but nixed "So. Central Rain" that really put me off the Zep. Honestly, my foray into King Crimson fandom just might start any decade now! I have just acquired some vintage Fripp, even! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:29:34 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Reap At 10:30 PM 1/31/2007, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >Molly Ivins > >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/01/31/national/a160010S74.DTL Oh, that one really hits home... I used to live with her niece, one of my good friends from college. I remember Molly taking Margot and I out to brunch once, and Molly was doing these Ross Perot impressions. This was quite a long time ago, obviously. - ----------------------------------------------- Jason R. Thornton Research Analyst Student Research & Information/Student Affairs The University of California, San Diego 9500 Gilman Drive, Dept. Mail Code 0088 La Jolla, CA 92093 (858) 534-2382 FAX: (858) 822-4578 jthornton@ucsd.edu http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/ - ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/01/MNGM8NSSD91.DTL "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:42:03 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Permafrost Hi List, Jill Brand says: > Lauren wrote: > > " mean, it's not like he was trying to get me talk about my privates - > about as crazy as it got was when we discussed "Permafrost." > > I will drug you and fuck you? Oh, I don't know, it may not be about your > privates, but it is still pretty private indeed. The conversation about "Permafrost" didn't even get into that particular lyric. I probably just mentioned (as I usually would) that I have a very specific memory of first hearing that song because it seemed rather shocking to me at the time. One of the reasons the "she/he" situation struck me as strange was exactly because there was nothing personal in our correspondence, just two people talking music. And I'm fairly sure that he contacted me only because I have Devoto listed on my profile - I don't have any pictures of myself on MySpace and I refuse to have "friends". > What's your most quoted HD line? Mine is "Some will pay for what others > pay to avoid." My husband's is "My mind it ain't so open that anything > can crawl right in." I love both of those lines. Other ones that often go through my head are "I've been putting myself through hell / waiting for hell to begin" and "According to these memories / I'm just mad about you" (it's so Bladerunner) and also Devoto's description of "The Correct Use of Soap" as being about "fear, love, love of fear, and fear of love." I'm sure there are more... xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:37:21 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports On 2/1/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/01/MNGM8NSSD91.DTL > A politician having an affair? Say it ain't so! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:03:58 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports 2fs wrote: > On 2/1/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/01/MNGM8NSSD91.DTL > > > > A politician having an affair? > > Say it ain't so! Yeah, but the campaign manager's wife? Gavin really ought to have found a more remote pier to fish from. He obviously failed Willie Brown's course on where to find a mayoral fuckbuddy. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:03:06 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: A special note from Robyn about his new live EP with The Venus 3 From: Yep Roc Records Date: February 1, 2007 1:33:24 PM EST Subject: [Robyn Hitchcock] A special note from Robyn about his new live EP with The Venus 3 Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 live EP available now for preorder! Sex, Food, Death and Tarantulas contains six unreleased livetracks from Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 including the Soft Boys classic, "Give It to the Soft Boys," Hitchcock solo gems like "Sometimes a Blonde," and the Venus 3's "(A Man's Got to Know His Limitations) Briggs." Also included are two videos for "Adventure Rocket Ship" - all for only $4.99! Click the Purchase link to pre-order now and reserve your copy! When you preorder the EP, you'll get 3 bonus MP3s - "Luckiness," an unreleased song by Robyn Hitchcock, a live version of The Minus 5 song, "Cigarettes, Coffee and Booze" performed by Scott McCaughey, and the old traditional song "Copper Kettle." Read on for a note from Robyn! Tracks Ole! Tarantula The Afterlight (Live) Sally Was A Legend (Live) Queen of Eyes (Live) Sometimes A Blonde (Live) Briggs (Live) Give It To The Soft Boys (Live) a special note from Robyn... The Crocodile in Seattle is a favourite venue of us all. Peter and Scott rendezvous'd there in the mid 90's, I soon joined them, and Bill first played with me there in 2002. We've all played there many times - this gig was my 15th show there, probably. There's no substitute for the Crocodile. Jim Anderson the soundman has pretty much figured out all there is to know about us, in terms of sound. It's a small room with no great natural reverb, so the Jim adds effects, they aren't thrust upon him by reflective surfaces. I usually skulk in the kitchen, or go and smoke in the meat safe until it's time to go onstage. Now that it's illegal to smoke in most places, you have be more inventive; I don't particularly like cigarettes, but the whole thing is a challenge. Even marijuana is more acceptable than tobacco these days - I swear if an airline pilot was caught stoned he'd get off lighter than if he'd been found smoking a Marlboro. It wasn't always like this. Go back to 'Magnum Force', the second Dirty Harry Movie, and you'll see Clint Eastwood and all the S.F.P.D. cops de-briefing in a room thick with their own cigarette smoke. And ash. Ash from their own smoky caskets, you might add - but the S.F.P.D. ran risks from without and within. 'Magnum Force' concerns itself with a deviant strain of motorcycle cops who pursue their idea of justice by carrying out vigilante killings on mobsters, pimps, and drug dealers who have evaded judicial law. Heading them up is Briggs, who features in the live version of 'A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations, Briggs' on the live CD at the Croc. And a man obviously does - but where are these limitations? In the meat safe? Outside on 2nd Avenue? In the bulletproof vests of the wise virgins? The Venus 3 and I don't know the answers, but we're sure as hell gonna ask the questions. Thanks for listening! Robyn Hitchcock. London, 2007 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:29:48 -0800 (PST) From: ken ostrander Subject: happy the golden prince >>Talking about creativity etc., and talking about the unknown, etc., is >quite different from *asserting* that, you know, Jesus can read the minds of >unicorns by immersing Elvis's gall bladder in the blood of a virgin at >Stonehenge. I don't think it's at all unreasonable to ask people who >make such claims to prove it. None of them can.<< not fair to use that case since close proximity to elvis automatically deflowers. and besides, jesus picked the unicorns' card in every case. and now no one is allowed near the stones because of the griswolds. of course, you can't prove faith. it's, by definition, intertwined with doubt. synchronious events are enough to convince some folks that there's more going on than meets the eye; but it's not enough to prove it to anyone. it's all very personal and subject to individual whims. to look for consistancy when people are involved is just...well...hysterical. one man's proof is another man's pudding. requiring proof usually leaves people unhappy or stuck in the wardrobe. they miss out on the joy of riding the unicorn. i'm not saying that science doesn't have something to offer. i just think that it only provides one part of a larger picture that can be filled in with the 'pseudojunk' or stuff that can't be explained (and may never be to a scientific standard). it's strange how whenever someone manages to get better on their own when they weren't given the special pill it's dismissed as a placebo effect. i think there is a lot to the idea that our bodies can heal themselves; but a lot of it is tied up in attitude and openness. i think that's why experiments where people pray for strangers who might not be receptive to that sort of thing misses the point. science tends to lean towards the objective and away from the subjective. and then there's all of the 'why do good things happen to bad people?' stuff? how can god let this happen? i believe that we have free will and need to learn about cause and effect. some folks believe that butterflies can cause weather phenomena. why do hurricanes seem to form right off the african continent? maybe the death and suffering there creates a strange disturbance in the force. certainly, there is more that we can do about that; and that is where science and spirituality can come together. maybe they're not all that different. ken "what's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding?" the kenster - --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:08:27 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: happy the golden prince On 2/1/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > of course, you can't prove faith. it's, by definition, intertwined with > doubt. synchronious events are enough to convince some folks that there's > more going on than meets the eye; but it's not enough to prove it to > anyone. it's all very personal and subject to individual whims. to look > for consistancy when people are involved is just...well...hysterical. The point exactly, yeah? If faith was inarguable fact, you wouldn't need to have faith in it. Nor would it be religion, just shit you have to deal with, no choice in the matter, like gravity or the Oscars. Attempts to apply the scientific method to matters of faith are inescapably laughable, and calling them "pseudo-science" is almost too kind. That's not a knock against faith at all... it's just that anyone who tries to use one to explain the other understands neither, or he wouldn't try. Did I miss something or has there not been the faintest whiff of discussion of the Oscar noms here? Not that I require any, it just seems odd. - -Rex one man's proof is another man's pudding. requiring proof usually leaves > people unhappy or stuck in the wardrobe. they miss out on the joy of riding > the unicorn. > > i'm not saying that science doesn't have something to offer. i just think > that it only provides one part of a larger picture that can be filled in > with the 'pseudojunk' or stuff that can't be explained (and may never be to > a scientific standard). it's strange how whenever someone manages to get > better on their own when they weren't given the special pill it's dismissed > as a placebo effect. i think there is a lot to the idea that our bodies can > heal themselves; but a lot of it is tied up in attitude and openness. i > think that's why experiments where people pray for strangers who might not > be receptive to that sort of thing misses the point. science tends to lean > towards the objective and away from the subjective. > > and then there's all of the 'why do good things happen to bad people?' > stuff? how can god let this happen? i believe that we have free will and > need to learn about cause and effect. some folks believe that butterflies > can cause weather phenomena. why do hurricanes seem to form right off the > african continent? maybe the death and suffering there creates a strange > disturbance in the force. certainly, there is more that we can do about > that; and that is where science and spirituality can come together. maybe > they're not all that different. > > > > > ken "what's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding?" > the kenster > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:09:22 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: A special note from Robyn about his new live EP with The Venus 3 On 2/1/07, Steve Talkowski wrote: > > From: Yep Roc Records > Date: February 1, 2007 1:33:24 PM EST > Subject: [Robyn Hitchcock] A special note from Robyn about his new > live EP with The Venus 3 > > Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 live EP available now for preorder! I just ordered this, but I don't see no bonus tracks in my stash. Anyone else? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:17:04 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: happy the golden prince Rex wrote: >Did I miss something or has there not been the faintest whiff of discussion of the Oscar noms here? > Not that I require any, it just seems odd. I wouldn't mind seeing Marty finally win the Best Director Oscar, however he should have won it for Raging Bull or Goodfellas previously. It's nice when previous slights finally are righted with a strong performance, and Marty did a fine job directing The Departed. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:53:59 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports On Feb 1, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > 2fs wrote: >> On 2/1/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/01/ > MNGM8NSSD91.DTL >> A politician having an affair? >> >> Say it ain't so! > > Yeah, but the campaign manager's wife? Gavin really > ought to have found a more remote pier to fish from. > He obviously failed Willie Brown's course on where to > find a mayoral fuckbuddy. The wife and I wrote in Gav's name for the San Jose mayoral race last year - she thinks he's just dreamy. Between his mistress and his ex- wife, I gotta say the guy gets all the fine looking women. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:59:10 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Why San Francisco Politics is one of the great spectator sports Via the wire, today's Man in the Street quote: Tom Abbott, 36, an executive recruiter, said that having an affair with a loyal aide's wife was "a total slimeball move. Any guy who puts that much mousse in his hair can't be trusted," Abbott said. "You don't screw over your own boys." However, Abbott said that he would probably vote for Newsom in November. Way to stick to those guns there, Mr. Executive Recruiter. How about strapping on a spine, and throwing that vote somewhere else? Michael "is it any better in Canada?" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:15:06 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Reap Hi List, 2fs says: > ...in that no one, > anywhere, has ever been described as "wimping out in the face of illness" or > being "cowardly and fearful as cancer kicked her ass." Yes, here you go: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29585 Oh, whoops, it's The Onion, I was wrong. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:24:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: happy the golden prince - -- "Bachman, Michael" is rumored to have mumbled on 1. Februar 2007 16:17:04 -0500 regarding RE: happy the golden prince: > Rex wrote: > >> Did I miss something or has there not been the faintest whiff of > discussion of the Oscar noms here? >> Not that I require any, it just seems odd. > > I wouldn't mind seeing Marty finally win the Best Director Oscar, > however he should have won it for Raging Bull > or Goodfellas previously. Absolutely. > It's nice when previous slights finally are > righted with a strong performance, and Marty > did a fine job directing The Departed. Well, I thought it was OK, but *many* of his other films were better: Taxi Driver, Age Of Innocence and Casino come to mind in addition to the ones you mentioned. Anyway, I have high hopes for "The Life Of Others". It's really an amazing movie and I would recommend you check it out if you're the least bit interested in post-Hitler Germany. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #33 *******************************