From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #18 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 20 2007 Volume 16 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Discovery of the week [Eb ] Re: "These capuchin monkeys do a lot." [Tom Clark ] Re: "These capuchin monkeys do a lot." [Capuchin ] reap [Eb ] oh, and another reap [Eb ] My name is "Eb", and I sense a disturbance in my johnson ["Stacked Crooke] Re: My Name Is Nobody [Eb ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and I sense a disturbance in my johnson ["Stewart C.] NEW on DIME: The Soft Boys - Saturday 15 September 2001, Evershot Village Hall, Dorset, England UK [] Re: Hadn't noticed this... ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Discovery of the week ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Discovery of the week [Eb ] Re: Discovery of the week ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and I sense a disturbance in my johnson [2fs ] Re: Discovery of the week [2fs ] Re: Discovery of the week [Eb ] And incidentally, Jeff... [Eb ] RE: Discovery of the week ["Brian Huddell" ] Monstrance preview [Steve Schiavo ] RE: Discovery of the week ["michael wells" ] Ladies and Gentlemen, the mostly nerdily self-indulgent celebrity page(s) in all of the intarwebenhosen [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:49:42 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Discovery of the week Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >>> The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. >> >> Agreed. Anybody heard anything about a Volume 2? > > No. My only disappointment with Volume 1 was/is that Susanna Hoffs > doesn't play guitar at all on that record. It's in my top 10 as > well, but none of my friends like it. One interesting thing about this album is that there's obviously a sharp conflict between artist and label about how to market it. Sweet and Hoffs insist on being referred to as "Sid 'n' Susie" (http:// sidnsusie.com , http://www.myspace.com/sidnsusie , etc.), but Shout! Factory must have insisted on putting their real names on the sleeve because it would sell more discs. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:00:01 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: "These capuchin monkeys do a lot." On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > . Absolutely; Jeme has been very helpful whenever I visited. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "These capuchin monkeys do a lot." On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: >> . > > Absolutely; Jeme has been very helpful whenever I visited. ...except for that time I almost dumped you into the street in front of Edinburgh Castle. But that doesn't mean that I don't try. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:35:15 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap MISSISSAUGA, Ont. - Denny Doherty, one-quarter of the 1960s folk-rock group the Mamas and the Papas, known for their soaring harmony on hits like "California Dreamin'" and "Monday, Monday," died Friday at 66. The band always left me cold, personally, but there ya go. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:38:12 -0800 From: Eb Subject: oh, and another reap Actress Solveig Dommartin, of Wim Wenders movies fame. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:00:27 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: My name is "Eb", and I sense a disturbance in my johnson <1998 (well, January 1999). Atlanta beat Minnesota on a Morten Andersen field goal, after Gary Anderson's only miss of the entire season, a 38 yarder. Minnesota became the first 15-1 team to not make the Super Bowl.> and two in st. louis as well. considering that the first words ever to come out of my mouth were "fuck terry bradshaw", i certainly can't say i was disappointed to see the 15 - 1 steelers get their asses whipped -- on their home field, too. but, jill, you realise that vinatieri will be lining up on the opposite sideline come sunday? i suspect that that will be your undoing. and i figured y'all would be venting about the "fifteen albums" remark. even if you don't count the live albums or the odds 'n' ends compilations or the "doppleganger"s (which i would think *ought to be* counted), the total is seventeen (i think). if you *do* count 'em, it's...a lot more. jeez! you're a tough motherfucker to please. i love black rebel motorcycle club, too. for what it's worth. <> well, *i* won't be surprised if *you* like *this* [unbuckling pants]. seriously, though: why would you be surprised that i'd like a folk-rock singer-songwriter? <> i don't think you'd like it. i *do* think, however, that you'd like the archie bronson and erase errata discs. so go and investigate those instead. (and if you *don't* like them, then you are a g-ddam [rex, please complete the phrase].) <, in case there's anything here that anyone's yet to hear...>> by sharing the music in the hopes that others will check them out? how else should one do so? you're not going to insult anybody's intelligence by saying, "encourage them to buy the record," are you? i'm sure you know as well as anybody that up-and-coming bands see about two nickels out of that $17. (note that i'm even more disappointed in your failure to utilise the serial comma...) <> you'd dig it the most! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:55:13 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: My Name Is Nobody Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > jeez! you're a tough motherfucker to please. Well, I can't be TOO tough...there are at least 80 albums from 2006 (so far) which I either own or want to get. My list just doesn't intersect an awful lot with yours. Adrian Belew-Side Three Aloha-Some Echoes Andy Partridge-Fuzzy Warbles Collector's Album Badly Drawn Boy-Born in the U.K. Barry Adamson-Stranger on the Sofa Beck-The Information Belle & Sebastian-The Life Pursuit Ben Folds-Supersunnyspeedgraphic - The LP Beth Orton-Comfort of Strangers Bettie Serveert-Bare Stripped Naked Bob Dylan-Modern Times Buzzcocks-Flat-Pack Philosophy Cocteau Twins-Lullabies for Violaine, Vol. 1 Cocteau Twins-Lullabies for Violaine, Vol. 2 Cracker-Greenland David Sylvian-Blemish Ed Harcourt-Beautiful Lie Elvis Costello & Allen Toussaint-The River in Reverse Eric Matthews-Foundation Sounds Frank Black-Fast Man Raider Man Golden Smog-Another Fine Day Grandaddy-Just Like the Fambly Cat Great Lakes-Diamond Times Grizzly Bear-Yellow House Imitation Electric Piano-Blow It Up, Burn It Down, Kick It 'Til It Bleeds Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan-Ballad of the Broken Seas Joanna Newsom-Ys. Jon Auer-Songs from the Year of Our Demise Kelley Stoltz-Below the Branches Lambchop-Damaged Lambchop-The Decline of Country & Western Civilization Part II Les Claypool-Of Whales and Woe Lylas-Lessons for Lovers Matmos-The Rose Has Teeth in the Mouth of a Beast Matthew Friedberger-Winter Women/Holy Ghost Language School Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs-Under the Covers Vol. 1 Mission of Burma-The Obliterati Mogwai-Mr. Beast Mosquitos-Mosquitos III Mouse on Mars-Varcharz Mudhoney-Under a Billion Suns Neil Young & Crazy Horse-Live at Fillmore East Neil Young-Living with War Neko Case-Fox Confessor Brings the Flood Paul Simon-Surprise Pere Ubu-Why I Hate Women Placebo-Meds Portastatic-Be Still Please Portastatic-Who Loves the Sun Quasi-When the Going Gets Dark Robert Pollard-From a Compound Eye Robert Pollard-Normal Happiness Robyn Hitchcock & the Venus 3-Ole! Tarantula Sean Lennon-Friendly Fire Snow Patrol-Eyes Open Sonic Youth-Rather Ripped Sonic Youth-The Destroyed Room Soundtrack (Nick Cave)-The Proposition Stereolab-Fab Four Suture Tanya Donelly-This Hungry Life The Annuals-Be He Me The Arctic Monkeys-Whatever People Say I Am, Thats What Im Not The Decemberists-The Crane Wife The Dresden Dolls-Yes, Virginia... The Essex Green-Cannibal Sea The Feeling-Twelve Stops and Home The Fiery Furnaces-Bitter Tea The Flaming Lips-At War with the Mystics The Futureheads-News and Tributes The Long Winters-Putting the Days to Bed The Ms-Future Women The Minders-It's a Bright Guilty World The Minus 5-The Minus 5 The Strokes-First Impressions of Earth The Vines-Vision Valley The Wedding Present-Search for Paradise Tom Verlaine-Around Tom Verlaine-Songs and Other Things Tom Waits-Orphans Yo La Tengo-I Am Not Afraid of You and I Will Beat Your Ass > <> > > > > seriously, though: why would you be surprised that i'd like a folk- > rock > singer-songwriter? Just seems too mainstream/old-school for you (or me). Speaking of top 10 of 2006, the Annuals were on Conan last night and I forgot to set a timer. Damn it. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:02:48 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Denny Doherty, of The Mamas & the Papas. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:07:16 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I sense a disturbance in my johnson Stacked Crooked wrote: > > i'm sure you know as well as anybody that up-and-coming bands see about two > nickels out of that $17. Well, that's a dime more than they get from not buying the album. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:08:15 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: NEW on DIME: The Soft Boys - Saturday 15 September 2001, Evershot Village Hall, Dorset, England UK http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=130903&hit=1 - ----- Forwarded message from DIME ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 130903 Title: The Soft Boys - Saturday 15 September 2001, Evershot Village Hall, Dorset, England UK Size: 586.73 MB Category: Rock Uploaded by: ocelot Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Soft Boys - Saturday 15 September 2001, Evershot Village Hall, Dorset, England UK Line-up Morris Windsor, Kimberley Rew, Robyn Hitchcock, Matthew Seligman Lineage MD Master (Aud)>Wavelab>Flac8 Set One Narcissus Kingdom of Love Tonight Disconnection of the Ruling Class I'm an Old Pervert My Mind is Connected Queen of Eyes Underwater Moonlight Insanely Jealous Mr. Kennedy Set Two Astronomy Domine (Pink Floyd) Unprotected Love Bells of Rhymney (Pete Seeger/Idris Davies) The Pulse of My Heart Airscape Leppo and the Jooves Train Round the Bend (Velvet Underground) Sudden Town Om Only the Stones Remain Human Music Where are the Prawns? Strings ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:14 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Hadn't noticed this... > From: Rex > Subject: Hadn't noticed this... > > 365 Days is back for 2007: Sa-weet, I did not know this! I wonder what I can submit this time? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:02:40 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Discovery of the week On 1/19/07, Eb wrote: > Oh, and Miles...come on. Protesting Nashville/country pigeonholing > based on the LOCAL bands? If the non-country scene's greatest impact > is *Fluid Ounces*, that's really not saying much. Um, what else would it be based on except bands who call the Nashville metropolitan area home? And the local music scene is overwhelmingly rock/pop/indiepop/whatever, and has been since the mid-'80s. I'm not even going to get into the whole "impact" thing - I know that matters to you, because you've brought it up before, most memorably in discussing Robyn himself. Me, I don't see what "impact" has to do with the price of tea in China, nor have I ever claimed Fl. Oz. as the biggest rock band ever to come out of Middle Tennessee - for a while they were my *favorite* local band, but even at their peak, Self had a major-label contract and a much bigger following. I also submit one of the obstacles any non-rootsy band in Nashville has to face is getting taken seriously *because* of the whole "rock bands don't come from Nashville" assumption. Which is part of why I thought it worthwhile to take a swing against the obligatory "they don't sound country" disclaimer. later, Nashville's Own Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:07:55 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Discovery of the week Miles Goosens wrote: >> Oh, and Miles...come on. Protesting Nashville/country pigeonholing >> based on the LOCAL bands? If the non-country scene's greatest impact >> is *Fluid Ounces*, that's really not saying much. > > Um, what else would it be based on except bands who call the Nashville > metropolitan area home? And the local music scene is overwhelmingly > rock/pop/indiepop/whatever, and has been since the mid-'80s. If none (or a scant few) of the bands are recognized beyond the local metropolis, you can't blame the world for seeing Nashville as a country-focused scene. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:44:17 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Discovery of the week On 1/19/07, Eb wrote: > If none (or a scant few) of the bands are recognized beyond the local > metropolis, you can't blame the world for seeing Nashville as a > country-focused scene. How many of 'em does it take for people to start realizing it? Just sticking with '90s-'00s Nashville bands, Lambchop is probably the rootsiest one to get a lot of national and international press, and they're not *that* rootsy (IMO, of course). Be Your Own Pet was one of the biggest buzz bands of 2006. The Shazam has had their day in the sun (and may have another if Little Steven's Underground Garage has its way), and the Features had a similar splash in '04-'05. Those last three bands aren't remotely country-sounding. It just seems like if anyone was paying attention - and I know that you are since you're conversant with many non-country Nashville artists - the "not as country as you'd expect" phrase would be in the Dustbin of E-Z Rock Critic Tropes where it belongs. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:35:22 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I sense a disturbance in my johnson On 1/19/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > > i'm sure you know as well as anybody that up-and-coming bands see about > two > > nickels out of that $17. > > Well, that's a dime more than they get from not buying the album. I believe the argument would go: more people are going to sample an album for free than are going to drop $17 sound unheard. Of those more people, some of them will then buy the album. The process benefits the artist if that last "some people" is greater than the number of people who'd buy the album sound unheard (fans would buy it in any case). Personally, I wouldn't upload an entire CD. That's because if somebody already has all the music, even in lower fidelity, they may not buy the actual CD, even if they like it. But certainly, I've sent more dimes to more musicians as a result of not sending them dimes in the first place (i.e., hearing selections from the CDs for free). My guess is that the musicians I've heard have a net benefit from my having heard them for free - it's unlikely that if free music were as scarce as the RIAA wants it to be that I'd even have heard at all many of the bands whose CDs I purchased. I'll believe the RIAA the day they actually do research to demonstrate that what I've said above is untrue for all artists (I mean, yes, downloading might cost Britney Spears money: boo-fucking-hoo) and the day they force record companies to actually pay musicians first and foremost for the music they make. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:38:28 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Discovery of the week Miles Goosens wrote: >> If none (or a scant few) of the bands are recognized beyond the local >> metropolis, you can't blame the world for seeing Nashville as a >> country-focused scene. > > How many of 'em does it take for people to start realizing it? > Just sticking with '90s-'00s Nashville bands, Lambchop is probably > the rootsiest one to get a lot of national and international press, > and they're not *that* rootsy (IMO, of course). Oh yeah, no country element there. > Be Your Own Pet was one of the biggest buzz bands of 2006. Oh, they were not. Their album finished a "pretty good" #97 in that Idolator poll, and that's better than they'll do in the Pazz & Jop (which will have more older critics who won't be pro-Be Your Own Pet). > The Shazam has had their day in the sun They never got past dawn. They're a cult band for power-pop dorks. > the Features had a similar splash in '04-'05. Uhh..."splash"? You're citing three or four bands. There's gotta be at least twice that many country acts in Nashville. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:46:59 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Discovery of the week On 1/19/07, Eb wrote: > > > > You're citing three or four bands. There's gotta be at least twice > that many country acts in Nashville. Well, there certainly will be once the Rays of Force emanating from the mere power of Eb's Will make it all the way from LA to Nashville, commanding them to fulfill your decree. I mean, clearly, a guy who lives in Nashville isn't going to know anything much about what sort of music bands who work there actually play. It takes a guy from the other end of the country to know that. *sigh*... Hey, what are Milwaukee bands up to these days, Eb? (Actually, I wouldn't know: between having to get up to work and the damned clubs being choke-full of smoke, I rarely go see them anymore. I Am Old.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:14:40 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Discovery of the week WM wrote: > Well, there certainly will be once the Rays of Force emanating from > the mere > power of Eb's Will make it all the way from LA to Nashville, > commanding them > to fulfill your decree. > > I mean, clearly, a guy who lives in Nashville isn't going to know > anything > much about what sort of music bands who work there actually play. > It takes a > guy from the other end of the country to know that. OK, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that you don't recognize the difference between "regional club scene" and "nationwide recognition." Now...uhh...wait a minute. Nah...on second thought, let's not. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:30:49 -0800 From: Eb Subject: And incidentally, Jeff... ...while you're sarcastically snorting about my long-distance view of the Nashville scene vs. Miles' direct exposure, let's not forget which one of us has heard/heard of Lylas. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 01:00:41 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Discovery of the week Eb: > WM wrote: Well, at least you've resorted to code to keep Broomaniax (and Wingmaniax) alive. Progress. > OK, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that you don't recognize > the difference between "regional club scene" and "nationwide > recognition." > > Now...uhh...wait a minute. Nah...on second thought, let's not. Good lord. Miles said this: - ----------------------- * "a bit of country too, but not as much as you would expect from a Nashville-based band" - not citing Eb in particular for this, and I know "Nashville" means "country" to the rest of the universe and with good reason... but this town has had a rich, diverse local music scene since the mid-'80s, even if has never broken out nationally like Athens or Seattle or what have you. The fact that everyone has to mention country when talking about any musical artist from Nashville - even if it's to say that somehow amazingly against all odds that artist *isn't* country-sounding - is a tiresome thing, especially to those artists themselves. - ------------------------ Miles makes an effort not to single out Eb, acknowledges the basis for the association twixt Nashville and country music, and then makes a pitch for his own, first-hand perspective. Why anyone would feel the need to turn *that* into a pissing match is beyond me. It comes off like an audition for the new Rex. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:24:41 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Monstrance preview A bit of the Partridge, Andrews, Barker album. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:08:47 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: Discovery of the week Brian: > Why anyone would feel the need to turn *that* into a pissing match is beyond me. It comes off like an audition for the new Rex. Word. Miles makes a post for the first time in *ages*, and gets a full helping of Ebsheesh as his reward. Just going out on a limb here, but maybe this kind of nonsense is why he stopped posting in the first place. Eddie: > seriously, though: why would you be surprised that i'd like a folk-rock singer-songwriter? 2006 was probably the best year for this in my memory - there were at least ten *really* good albums in the genre: THE KNUCKLEBALL SUITE - Peter Mulvey STRANGE CONVERSATION - Kris Delmhorst THE ANIMAL YEARS - Josh Ritter HOPE AND OTHER CASUALTIES - Mark Erelli (Folkwax album of the year, IIRC) TUNESMITH RETROFIT - Kelly Joe Phelps POST-WAR - M. Ward GHOST REPEATER - Jeffrey Foucault LEAVE THE LIGHTS ON - Chris Smither A CASE FOR CASE - Various Artists WORKBENCH SONGS - Guy Clark And that doesn't include stuff like the Springsteen album. Check some of 'em out (I'm especially digging the Phelps and Clark albums right now). > vinatieri will be lining up on the opposite sideline come sunday? I suspect that that will be your undoing. And the last time I teased a Bears opponent Well noted, I think you're right about that. Oh and Brian, the last time I teased someone from the city of a Bears playoff opponent, we got slammed like a screen door. So you're getting none it from me this time. Go Saints (wink, wink)! Wondering if Reggie Bush has ever even seen snow, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:15:32 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen, the mostly nerdily self-indulgent celebrity page(s) in all of the intarwebenhosen http://www.artgarfunkel.com/library.html "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #18 *******************************