From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #17 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 19 2007 Volume 16 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Discovery of the week [Eb ] Re: Nuh-uh! [2fs ] Re: AARP [2fs ] RE: Discovery of the week ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: AARP [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) [] re: Re ["Sarah Jones" ] Hadn't noticed this... [Rex ] Re: Re ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Sex, Food, Death ... and Insects [Tom Clark ] Re: Nuh-uh! [Elizabeth Brion ] Re: Re ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) ["S] Re: Discovery of the week [Eb ] Re: Nuh-uh! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Nuh-uh! ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] Re: Nuh-uh! [2fs ] Re: Nuh-uh! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Discovery of the week [Tom Clark ] Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) ["Mil] Re: Discovery of the week ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Discovery of the week [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Discovery of the week [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Discovery of the week [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:53:09 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Discovery of the week Anyone else like...Lylas? Amazon "recommended'" their album Lessons for Lovers to me awhile back, and the clips sounded pretty good. Then I grabbed the disc for a buck on the final day of my local Tower Records, but didn't get around to playing it until a few days ago. I wasn't sure that I would like it, but this is good stuff -- even if I haven't encountered any "word of mouth" about it at all. Possibly the first "indie" album I've ever looked up on Pitchfork and not found a review, and it wasn't even among the 1300 albums listed in that "Best of 2006" Idolator poll. If you like the l'il acoustic songs on Kinks albums like Face to Face, Muswell Hillbillies, Something Else, Village Green and The Great Lost Kinks Album, you should check this out. It owes plenty (almost too much) to Ray Davies' gentle side. There's a bit of country too, but not as much as you would expect from a Nashville- based band. (I wonder if they're tight with Lambchop?) Another interesting quality is that you might enjoy the Purty Tunes without realizing how *dark* some of the lyrics are. It's a pretty morose album, lyrically, even if the music is pleasing and pastoral. One song "Sprinkle" is even about suicide, and has a recurrent image about "a spray of wrists and veins." Yikes. http://lylas.net streams a generous selection of Lylas songs. I suggest skipping to "Twice on Sunday," which is probably my own favorite track. Note: Based on the band's official material, it seems like they are sticklers for being called "Lylas" rather than "The Lylas." Do with this information what you will. Eb np: Matthew Sweet/Kimi Ga Suki * Raifu (uneven, but better than I thought it would be) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:22:09 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nuh-uh! On 1/18/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 1/17/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > Mandola? > > > > Mandocello? > > > > (Damn. Now I have to listen to Cheap Trick. Such a burden.) > > > I've always wondered why that song is called that-- it doesn't sound like > there's a particularly estoreric instrument on it. I'm sure the answer is a > Google search away, but hey. > I am also being lazy - but I thought I read once that he used a tuning in which the top four strings are tuned that way (in fifths). But this may be merely the latest hallucinatory news report from my leaky memory. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:26:24 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: AARP On 1/18/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > AARP is the American Association of Retired People > (though anyone over 50 can join, retired or not), > which is why using a Buzzcocks song is especially, > odd. Well, Pete Shelley is 52 (according to Wikipedia anyway). And so are, one presumes, many fans of the Buzzcocks. Sounds odd...but that *was* thirty years ago. Or is there a rule that when you retire or get close to it, you have to listen to Perry Como? Cuz I'm breaking that rule, definitely. (Not there yet - - just turned 45 last month - but you know, closer each day...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:46:19 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Discovery of the week Eb wrote: >np: Matthew Sweet/Kimi Ga Suki * Raifu (uneven, but better than I thought it would be) I still haven't picked that one up or the Blue Mars one or whatever it was called that was released between 100% Fun and In Reverse. I enjoyed the Sweet/Hoffs 60's thing last year, and it just missed being in my Top 10. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:47:18 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Re >Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it >Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) If you are in a dark room, and you bite his ass and see sparks, it was Wint-O-Green. ...or love. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: AARP 2fs wrote: > On 1/18/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > AARP is the American Association of Retired People > > (though anyone over 50 can join, retired or not), > > which is why using a Buzzcocks song is especially, > > odd. > > Well, Pete Shelley is 52 (according to Wikipedia > anyway). And so are, one presumes, many fans of the > Buzzcocks. > > Sounds odd...but that *was* thirty years ago. I was thinking more about a song (wryly) being about a more teenaged kind of angst than middle-aged angst. That and, in the spot, it's edit such that anyone not already familiar with the song -- which I would venture to say would be the majority of American viewers -- wouldn't realize that "EHN" isn't the cheery ditty they may think. > Or is there a rule that when you retire or get close > to it, you have to listen to Perry Como? Not anymore; now the rule is you have to listen to America. [I still think my favorite ever post to the feg list was reaping Perry Como as the Billy Idol of croon.] > Cuz I'm breaking that rule, > definitely. (Not there yet > - just turned 45 last month - but you know, closer > each day...) "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:49:16 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) On 1/18/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > i call 2006 my most favouritest musical year ever! i would say that i > "fucking love" everything down through the haram album, "very like" > everything down through the morrissey album, and "quite like" everything > else. Eddie's tastss remain delighfully inscrutable to me. He loves things that I love for all the right reasons, but simultaneously loathes records that seem, in my mind, to go hand in hand with them, nearly impossible to dislike; meanwhile he rightfully disses some truly awful and overrated horseshit whilst praising to the gills artists in whom I can't see any shred of potential appeal. Detailing the alternating currents of vigorous agreement and pure befuddlement I experienced reading this would be too taxing, even for myself. A pleasure, as always, and long may you wave, sir. I do agree, it was a damned strong year, and doubt the decade will see it bettered. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:02:39 +0000 From: "Sarah Jones" Subject: re: Re >From: "Marc Holden" >Reply-To: "Marc Holden" >To: "fegmaniax" >Subject: re: Re >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:47:18 -0700 > >>Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it >>Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) > >If you are in a dark room, and you bite his ass and see sparks, it was >Wint-O-Green. >...or love. Marc How would you know this (lol)? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:52:28 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Hadn't noticed this... 365 Days is back for 2007: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/365_days_project/index.html Thus far feels a little like wrapping up unfinished business from the first year, a little heavy on the thrift store LP's, but here's hoping it spins off into some esoteric directions as it goes along. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:33:56 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: Re "Sarah Jones" taunted: >>From: "Marc Holden" >>>Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it >>>Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) >> >>If you are in a dark room, and you bite his ass and see sparks, it was >>Wint-O-Green. >>...or love. Marc > > How would you know this (lol)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboluminescence "Also when sugar crystals are crushed, tiny electrical fields are created, separating positive and negative charges that then create sparks while trying to reunite. WintOGreen Lifesavers work especially well for creating such sparks, due to the fact that wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate) is fluorescent and converts ultraviolet light into blue light." I know a lot about useless trivia, and probably less than the average about love, Marc I don't pretend to have all the answers. I don't pretend to even know what the questions are. Hey, where am I? Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:08:15 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Sex, Food, Death ... and Insects On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Rex wrote: > Okay... so... it's about OT and not the forthcoming album after > all? Or... > is this somehow a different film encompassing the same live > performances but > about recording a different album? W, in short, TF? It's more or less a profile of Robyn, with some U.S. tour footage and some folsky jamming at Robyn's house. Essential viewing, nonetheless. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:23:37 -0800 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: Nuh-uh! On Jan 18, 2007, at 1:22 PM, 2fs wrote: >> On 1/17/07, 2fs wrote: >>> >>> >>> Mandola? >>> >>> Mandocello? >>> >>> (Damn. Now I have to listen to Cheap Trick. Such a burden.) > > I am also being lazy - but I thought I read once that he used a tuning > in > which the top four strings are tuned that way (in fifths). I have the disturbing feeling that all (both?) of my posts to this list in recent times have been about Cheap Trick, which is weird, but: Picture a guitar-sized mandolin. That's pretty much it (obviously, tuned differently etc etc). At the time, the story was that Rick Nielsen had invented it, but giving CT's early penchant for flat-out making shit up, I wouldn't take that as gospel. Got all our stuff in boxes and we're movin' to LA, Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:32:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Re Marc Holden wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboluminescence Press-and-seal envelopes, too. It's probably deeply Freudian to rush into a dark closet to rip open one's mail ... Stewart np: Ideal Free Distribution, which rocks my world. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:38:42 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) Stacked Crooked wrote: > > i've uploaded my fave-forty to , in > case there's anything here that anyone's yet to hear... Way to show your love, support and respect to your favourite struggling artistes, Ed ... Stewart np: Akron/Family - Meek Warrior; who coulda thought that a Buddhist-Folk freakout could be so enjoyable? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:08:46 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Discovery of the week Bachman, Michael wrote: >> np: Matthew Sweet/Kimi Ga Suki * Raifu (uneven, but better than I > thought it would be) > > I still haven't picked that one up or the Blue Mars one or whatever it > was called that was released between 100% Fun and In Reverse. I > enjoyed > the Sweet/Hoffs 60's thing last year, and it just missed being in > my Top > 10. Blue Sky on Mars was so half-assed lousy that I was baffled that Sweet deemed it worth releasing. Maybe he had a contractual obligation to release an album that year, and just was too busy touring to polish off some good new songs. Then again, Kimi Ga Suki * Raifu was wrapped up within only a week. The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. I still haven't heard Living Things, though other fans' response to it seems pretty tepid. Eb np: Ween/Quebec (average...pretty much par for the course, for the Ween-on-a-downhill-slope era) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:41:31 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Nuh-uh! KB Larsen wrote: > If anyone hasn't heard this: > > Not Dark Yet - Robyn Hitchcock with John Paul Jones > (9-26-05, Barbican Theatre, London) or simpler: . It's okay. It doesn't do the transcendent wonderfulness thing for me, but if it floats yer boat ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:52:59 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Nuh-uh! Stewart C. Russell says: > It's okay. It doesn't do the transcendent wonderfulness thing for me, > but if it floats yer boat ... Just lower your expectations ;) Thanks for the link. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:56:56 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nuh-uh! On 1/18/07, Elizabeth Brion wrote: > > > >>> Mandola? > >>> > >>> Mandocello? > >>> > >>> (Damn. Now I have to listen to Cheap Trick. Such a burden.) > > > I have the disturbing feeling that all (both?) of my posts to this list > in recent times have been about Cheap Trick, which is weird, but: > Picture a guitar-sized mandolin. That's pretty much it (obviously, > tuned differently etc etc). At the time, the story was that Rick > Nielsen had invented it, but giving CT's early penchant for flat-out > making shit up, I wouldn't take that as gospel. I'm pretty sure he didn't: mandolin violin mandola viola mandocello violoncello They have the same relation to one another as the bowed instruments do (and are, I believe, tuned the same). Now, the gondocello - which is a baritone instrument you play by rowing through the canals of Venice - that Rick Nielsen did invent. Or will. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:10:40 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Nuh-uh! Lauren Elizabeth (gmail) wrote: > > Just lower your expectations ;) the world keeps expecting me to do this, yet I repeatedly fail to do so. I guess the world's taste in music just sucks. Stewart np: Casper & The Cookies - "Oh!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:12:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Discovery of the week On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Eb wrote: > The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. Agreed. Anybody heard anything about a Volume 2? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:12:38 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my butt smells of Pep-O-Mint! (Or is it Wint-O-Green? I can't seem to remember???) On 1/18/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > Dishonourable Mention: > > Robyn Hitchcock: you know, i used to dislike, without fail, every new > release upon first hearing. but that first hearing always planted the > barbs, compelling me to keep listening. my appreciation of the recording > would grow with each listen, until i found myself absolutely loving the > record. this pattern ended, of course, with *Luxor* and *Spooked*. but > what i find particularly troubling is that even those who, like me, didn't > care for these two records still find the new one a return to form -- yet > i've only listened to it once-and-a-half, and have absolutely no desire to > listen to it again. gargh. I'll take the middle ground - it's not as spectacular as I've been hearing, but it's the best thing he's done since Nextdoorland, and solo-wise... hm, tough call, but at least since the A&M years. > Beck: okay, here follows my quick review of beck's career. *Midnight >Vultures*: crap. Oh, c'mon - Midnight Vultures is the best Prince album in years. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:36:39 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Discovery of the week On 1/18/07, Eb wrote: > If you like the l'il acoustic songs on Kinks albums like Face to > Face, Muswell Hillbillies, Something Else, Village Green and The > Great Lost Kinks Album, you should check this out. It owes plenty > (almost too much) to Ray Davies' gentle side. There's a bit of > country too, but not as much as you would expect from a Nashville- > based band. (I wonder if they're tight with Lambchop?) This paragraph provokes several thoughts: * I have managed never to hear (the) Lylas, even though I live in Nashville. * Maybe I should hear them, since tossing around those Ray Davies references should not be done idly, nor do I take Eb for someone who would sucker me with False Ray Davieses. * "a bit of country too, but not as much as you would expect from a Nashville-based band" - not citing Eb in particular for this, and I know "Nashville" means "country" to the rest of the universe and with good reason... but this town has had a rich, diverse local music scene since the mid-'80s, even if has never broken out nationally like Athens or Seattle or what have you. The fact that everyone has to mention country when talking about any musical artist from Nashville - even if it's to say that somehow amazingly against all odds that artist *isn't* country-sounding - is a tiresome thing, especially to those artists themselves. * I don't know if the Lylas are tight with Lambchop, but it's a pretty safe assumption that everybody here knows everybody else. But I'm still pissed at Kurt Wagner for that Sessions at West 57th where he joined in with David Byrne in dissing the local scene instead of defending it, though of course the "punk rock comes to Nashville... for the first and last time" story is a classic. I know people who were at that Talking Heads show. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:25:07 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Discovery of the week - --On 18. Januar 2007 20:12:02 -0800 Tom Clark wrote: >> The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. > > Agreed. Anybody heard anything about a Volume 2? No. My only disappointment with Volume 1 was/is that Susanna Hoffs doesn't play guitar at all on that record. It's in my top 10 as well, but none of my friends like it. - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:39:50 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Discovery of the week - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Sebastian Hagedorn > --On 18. Januar 2007 20:12:02 -0800 Tom Clark wrote: > > >> The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. > > > > Agreed. Anybody heard anything about a Volume 2? > > No. My only disappointment with Volume 1 was/is that Susanna Hoffs doesn't > play guitar at all on that record. It's in my top 10 as well, but none of > my friends like it. > -- > b. Sebastian Hagedorn > b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de > b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ Good point Sebastian. Considering Rickenbacker issued a limited run of a Susanna Hoffs signature model in the late 80's, you would have thought she would have played some guitar on Volume 1. Although all the lead guitar on the Bangles records was played by Vicki Peterson. http://www.geocities.com/vickenbacker/hoffs.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:07:11 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: My name is Bobby Brown, and now I just smell like Vaseline Eb/die writes, >> Mammatus -- Mammatus >> ~ eb will probably sneer at me for loving this so much. but >> you've got my >> back, ain't ya, quail? this could easily be a no. 1 in a "normal" >> year. God damn, Eddie, I hate to let you down, I have not heard this one! But I will immediately amend that situation. I for one have been pretty well digging the new Mastodon.... >> The Decemberists -- The Crane Wife A few months ago, I had Beck's "The Information" as my #1. Lately, though.... I think my #1 of 2006 is actually "The Crane Wife." >> Neil Young -- Living With War > > Worst Neil Young album since the '80s. I have to agree with Eb on this one. Very disappointing to me, especially because I think "Prairie Wind" was fucking awesome. >> Dan Bern: gawd, remember when i used to throw my underpantses at him? Yeah, now that position is filled by LJ. >> Bob Dylan: i actually don't *mind* it. but after *'Love And >> Theft'*, it's >> a major let-down. > > I was expecting to feel let down, but it turned out to be pretty darn > good. Probably top-five quality for me. Me too! Definitely top 5. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:25:35 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: "These capuchin monkeys do a lot." . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:53:51 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Discovery of the week On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On 18. Januar 2007 20:12:02 -0800 Tom Clark wrote: > > >> The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. > > > > Agreed. Anybody heard anything about a Volume 2? > > No. My only disappointment with Volume 1 was/is that Susanna Hoffs doesn't > play guitar at all on that record. It's in my top 10 as well, but none of > my friends like it. supposedly there WILL be a volume 2 though no details yet http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A5279 http://www1.epinions.com/content_227090534020/show_~allcom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:38:57 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Discovery of the week Benjamin Lukoff wrote: >>>> The Sweet/Hoffs '60s thing is Top-10 quality for me. >>> >>> Agreed. Anybody heard anything about a Volume 2? >> >> No. My only disappointment with Volume 1 was/is that Susanna Hoffs >> doesn't >> play guitar at all on that record. It's in my top 10 as well, but >> none of >> my friends like it. > > supposedly there WILL be a volume 2 though no details yet > http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A5279 > http://www1.epinions.com/content_227090534020/show_~allcom Phew. A few paragraphs about Lylas, one parenthetical line about Matthew Sweet. And look at the resulting dialogue. I guess I have my answer. Oh, and Miles...come on. Protesting Nashville/country pigeonholing based on the LOCAL bands? If the non-country scene's greatest impact is *Fluid Ounces*, that's really not saying much. Eb np: Paul McCartney/Run Devil Run (welllll...it is what it is) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #17 *******************************