From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #303 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 16 2006 Volume 15 : Number 303 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Wild Mountain Robyn [2fs ] Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Wild Mountain Robyn [kevin ] Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 [Eb ] Re: Wild Mountain Robyn [2fs ] Top 10 of 2006 ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] My name is "Eb," and I still haven't seen El Topo [Eb ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Johnathan Vail" ] Well, that's Richard's chances of getting into the US screwed ... ["Stewa] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [Eb ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:35:29 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Wild Mountain Robyn On 12/15/06, Michael Wells wrote: > > I'd heard RH cover the song "Wild Mountain Thyme" (Adelaide 11/93 show) > and had wondered off an on about its origins. Came across this info > today: > > <"Wild Mountain Thyme," also commonly known as "Will You Go Lassie, Go" > was first recorded by Francis McPeake in 1957 for the series "As I Roved > Out" on BBC. There is conflicting information on whether he actually > wrote this song. Ireland the Songs, Volume 2, pub. 1993 Walton Mfg, > Walton Music Inc. says, "He learned it from his uncle, which gives it > definite Ulster credentials." > However, Eric Winter writes in the liner notes of the 1995 re-release of > The Corries: In Concert/Scottish Love Songs: "... this is an elegant > variant of a Scottish song by Robert Tannahill (1774-1819), "The Braes > of Balquidder." The senior member of the McPeake family of Belfast, > Francis I, wrote this version (the tune is markedly different from > Tannahill's) and dedicated it to his first wife. Long after she died, he > married again and his son, Francis II, wrote an extra verse to celebrate > the marriage. The younger Francis McPeake still lives in Belfast and is > a well known Uilleann piper.> > Interesting stuff. Presumably the BBC version is where the Byrds got > their version from. I love the Byrds' version - though the arrangement isn't all that "folk," it hardly matters: the tune is so lovely, and the arrangement compliments it. I also have a version by Scottish band the Tannahill Weavers - haven't heard it for years, though (it's on a ratty old cassette). If I ever have some terrifying illness that confines me to the house but allows me to at least press buttons and move small objects around, I'll go through those 700 or so cassettes and digitize the best of them. I'm very surprised - whenever I pull one out - that there's still music on them, given that in some cases they've been sitting there for like 25 years. Helps that unlike a lot of cassette listeners, my primary storage venue for them was not the dashboard of a car left out in the sun. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:23:35 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 The Great Quail wrote: > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12800635/the_top_50_albums_of_2006/1 I have only five of these, only three of which are definite best-ofs for me. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:54:23 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 - -- "Stewart C. Russell" is rumored to have mumbled on 15. Dezember 2006 19:23:35 -0500 regarding Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006: > The Great Quail wrote: >> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12800635/the_top_50_albums_of_200 >> 6/1 > > I have only five of these, only three of which are definite best-ofs for > me. For me it's 2 out of 4 ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:55:10 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 The Great Quail says: > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12800635/the_top_50_albums_of_2006/1 I am way out of that loop (even with the ceaseless subscription to RS) and had no idea The Gothic Archies had a new one. Something to put me in the holiday mood, yay. << 39 The Tragic Treasury THE GOTHIC ARCHIES These songs, aimed at the precocious youngsters who jones for the gleeful gothic gloom of the Lemony Snicket novels that have made sometime Magnetic Fields sideman Daniel Handler very rich, are of a thematic piece. Perfect for Stephin Merritt's melancholy baritone, they also satisfy his appetite for rhyme. "The world is a very scary place, my dear," Merritt intones. "It's hurled and it's twirled through outer space, I fear." Comedy album of the year. >> xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:06:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > The Great Quail wrote: > > > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/12800635/the_top_50_albums_of_2006/1 > > I have only five of these, only three of which are > definite best-ofs for me. 4, 1 of which I haven't listened yet. Any list with John Mayer and My Chemical Romance (not to mention comparing The Rapture's album to Remain in Light!!) is, well, I'll be charitible and say peculiar. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:20:59 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Wild Mountain Robyn Helps >that unlike a lot of cassette listeners, my primary storage venue for them >was not the dashboard of a car left out in the sun. What I can't grasp is those clever devices that let you keep a rack of CDs on the underside of your sun visor...ya'd think after a couple of summer days they'd wind up with a lot of little baggies full of liquid PVC. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:40:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's Best of 2006 Nine albums which I either have or want to get (Dylan, Neko Case, Beck, Arctic Monkeys, Sean Lennon, Tom Waits, Sonic Youth, Decemberists, YLT)...a bunch of others which I've heard all/some of and know I don't like. Surprised they ranked Springsteen so low, given that it's Rolling Stone. Anyone have an opinion about Clipse? They seem to be slipping in as this year's big OutKast-style critics crossover. I haven't heard a note of them as yet. In other news, I've blown a wad of dough at the Tower Records clearance sales in the past two days...rambled through two different stores, totaling 24 discs for about $115. Do the math for how little that averages per disc. Plus, there were a few more discs which I bought purely to turn over and make a quick profit. Lots of great deals -- it's a boon for people with unpopular, indie-level tastes. I'm hoping for a further discount in the remaining days, because I left behind another 30 or so discs, gambling that they'll go unsold and get priced even lower. Today's grabs: albums by R.E.M., Iggy Pop, Paul McCartney, Big Star, Matthew Sweet, Sonic Youth, Robert Pollard, the Fiery Furnaces, the New Pornographers, A.C. Newman, Matmos and Super Furry Animals, all for about $64. Not bad, huh? Much lower than even what they would cost at secondhand prices. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:53:19 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Wild Mountain Robyn On 12/15/06, kevin wrote: > > > Helps > >that unlike a lot of cassette listeners, my primary storage venue for > them > >was not the dashboard of a car left out in the sun. > > What I can't grasp is those clever devices that let you keep a rack of CDs > on the underside of your sun visor...ya'd think after a couple of summer > days they'd wind up with a lot of little baggies full of liquid PVC. Well, if you leave your visor down all the time - but I think polymethyl methacrylate* (not PVC) has a higher melting point than cassette shells do... * this may be wrong - but for some reason, years ago, a friend told me this is the primary component of CDs and, for sheer geekiness, I've remembered it ever since. Or misremembered it, as the case may be. A quick glance over at wikipedia confirms this is essentially correct - it's the clear plastic coating, sometimes polycarbonate - but also that a trade name for the material is...Perspex. Yep, Robyn content after all. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:13:02 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: Top 10 of 2006 1. Califone - Roots and Crowns Califone is by far my favorite discovery of the year. 2. Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings the Flood Another great album with Case's involvement. I can't think of much she has done that I don't really, really like. 3. Robyn Hitchcock - Ole Tarantula Robyn's best effort in several albums IMO. 4. Matthew Sweet and Susanna Hoffs - Underneath the Covers, Vol. 1 This would probably be lower if it weren't for the cover of "Different Drum" and a leftover crush on Hoffs from her Bangles days. Those spooky eyes.... 5. Asobi Seksu - Citrus I was really surprised how much I enjoyed the easy poppiness of this. 6. Sparklehorse - Dreamt for Years in the Belly of a Mountain Another band that rarely disappoints and this was no exception to the rule. 7. Jenny Lewis with the Watson Twins - Rabbit Fur Coat Other than the clunker first verse of the first song, which is about as trite as can be, this is a great album. 8. The Decemberists - The Crane Wife I liked Picaresque better, but definitely another fun Colin Meloy opus that's worth the price of a CD. 9. Cold War Kids - Robbers and Cowards When reviewers compare a band to Tom Waits and The Pogues, I'm there. Sometimes it doesn't work out, this time it did for me, although I think the comparisons are a stretch musically. 10. Secret Machines - Ten Silver Drops Good, solid "alternative" rock. Honorable Mentions: The Church - Uninvited, Like the Clouds, Mark Pickerel and His Praying Hands - Snake in the Radio, Bettie Serveert - Bare Stripped Naked, Mason Jennings - Boneclouds Left out on purpose: Tom Waits - Orphans: a brilliant collection, but since most of it had been released years ago I'm not counting it as a 2006 release. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:21:55 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle On 12/15/06, Michael Wells wrote: > > > From the folks who've pulled down the DIME shows from this tour, is > there any consensus yet on best recording/best setlist? I'd like to get > a representative show or two, but I'm no longer a completist so will > rely on others informed opinions. Yes, please... I'd like to snag a couple as well. Which ones are the best? Thanks! SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:03:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: My name is "Eb," and I still haven't seen El Topo Marc Alberts wrote: > 9. Cold War Kids - Robbers and Cowards > When reviewers compare a band to Tom Waits and The Pogues, I'm there. > Sometimes it doesn't work out, this time it did for me, although I > think the > comparisons are a stretch musically. I just heard this for the first time a few days ago. Despite awarding points for the band's zesty hometown, I didn't quite like it. The singer does the same sort of loopy wail with his voice on every track and, for a band with piano-based songwriting, there really wasn't all that much interesting happening on the chords-and-melody front. I grew tired of the sound, though the lyrics were clever at times. Meanwhile, I keep having to stop myself from instinctively calling them the "Cold Water Kids." I wonder if others have this problem! One of my fun discoveries this year was the Dresden Dolls -- in fact, I bought their second album at Tower yesterday. I'd rather listen to the Dresden Dolls if I was in the mood for this sort of arch, theatrical, piano-based sound. I'm definitely not a Secret Machines, Jenny Lewis, Sparklehorse or Califone fan either. I'm a long way from compiling a top 10, alas. I can list 25-30 "contenders," but I'd need a lot of re-listening (or even listening for the first time) to finalize my ordered picks. So far, I'd probably say the Neko Case and Grizzly Bear albums are my favorite discs this year, but there are several E-ticket items which I still haven't given a hardcore listen. I just got the Sonic Youth album TODAY, for instance.... Nicest surprises include albums by Aloha, the M's, Paul Simon (bless you, Brian), Islands, Kelley Stoltz and the Feeling. There's a lot of new "arranged" indie-pop going around, and it has been fun stumbling on some fresh talents in this style (which I'm notoriously prone to favor). I listened to my recently bought reissue of Jethro Tull's Benefit today, and was startled to discover that not only was the track order slightly different from my old vinyl, but that there was even an extra song ("Alive and Well and Living In") which I had never, ever heard before. Or even heard of. Wow. Never noticed the different track listing until now. I guess this is another of those cases a la Beatles where the reissue returns to the UK version of an album, wherein the more familiar US version has a hit single (in this case, "Teacher") substituted into it. Hm. It's hard to come up with other examples of this phenomenon from my collection, once I go past 1967 or so. Ptooey, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:19:21 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: the archive one time at band camp, Michael Wells (mwells@ImageWorksMfg.com) said: >Woj, thanks for doing the work getting things posted where non-DIME >folks can get to them! you're welcome! since robyn's given the go-ahead for the archive, i figure we might as well make use of it, right? i hope to get the rest of the other shows from the fall tour uploaded over the next week or two. >I liked the Maxwell's show, but that WFMU interview was about the worst >DJ I'd ever heard. Is she always that cringe-inducing? oh i dunno. i like irene just fine. yes, she's a total fan-girl with respect to robyn but i don't nothing about that appearance made me react that way... woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Johnathan Vail" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle You all neglected to mention one of the Best Movies Ever: Yellowbeard. To tie it back to music, David Bowie was even in this movie along with Cheech and Chong, half of Monty Python, Peter Cook, Madeline Khan, Nigel Planer (Niel from Young Ones!) and of course Marty Feldman. jv <- "Not that it's any of my business, but autoerotic asphyxiation is a really undignified way to die" - -- Blog: http://volcano.newts.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:31:18 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Well, that's Richard's chances of getting into the US screwed ... my friend Friendly Rich had probably reconsider a tour of the lower 48: (caution: contains alt-cabaret music. May cause vomiting.) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:17:47 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle Johnathan Vail wrote: > You all neglected to mention one of the Best Movies Ever: > > Yellowbeard. I don't think I ever managed to sit through all of that. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:59:56 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle On Dec 15, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Michael Wells wrote: > From the folks who've pulled down the DIME shows from this tour, is > there any consensus yet on best recording/best setlist? I'd like to > get > a representative show or two, but I'm no longer a completist so will > rely on others informed opinions. I think the Katoomba and LA shows were really good. I also got the Maxwell's 11-19 show and while it was a good setlist and there was funny banter, Robyn's vocal were horrendous. Like he had no monitors. - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #303 ********************************