From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #301 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 14 2006 Volume 15 : Number 301 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... [Steve Schiavo ] Reap: Peter Boyle [The Great Quail ] Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... [kevin ] Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... [Benjamin Lukoff ] RE: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [FSThomas ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [2fs ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [kevin ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle [kevin ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] Re: Reap: Peter Boyle ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] reap ["Michael Wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:13:18 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... > On 12/12/06, Tom Clark wrote: >> >> On Dec 12, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> >>> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327 >> >> Asian cultures are huge soy consumers. Are they all teh ghey? On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:55 AM, 2fs wrote: > If you have to ask... > > I mean, clearly they're way less manly than meat-guzzling Texans or > sausage-sucking Chicagoans. > > So, this paper the article's in: what is it, Insane Person Monthly? WorldNetDaily? Taking Jeff's question at face value, the short answer is yes. They are what Andrew Sullivan calls Christianists. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:02:54 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: reap Peter Boyle, 71 http://cbs5.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_347112437.html - -- FS Thomas | Interactive Developer | fsthomas-at-ochremedia.com 404.758.8616 (home/office) | 404.274.1632 (mobile) | ferraatu (AIM) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:07:09 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Reap: Peter Boyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:57:21 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... now THAT'S funny. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:10:26 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: e6 reap Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Will Westbrook, guitarist for The Gerbils. http://www.thegerbils.net Their website isn't in the best of health either. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:43:03 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > On 12/12/06, Tom Clark wrote: > >> > >> On Dec 12, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> > >>> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327 > >> > >> Asian cultures are huge soy consumers. Are they all teh ghey? > > On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:55 AM, 2fs wrote: > > > If you have to ask... > > > > I mean, clearly they're way less manly than meat-guzzling Texans or > > sausage-sucking Chicagoans. > > > > So, this paper the article's in: what is it, Insane Person Monthly? > > WorldNetDaily? Taking Jeff's question at face value, the short > answer is yes. They are what Andrew Sullivan calls Christianists. > According to Wikipedia, "WorldNetDaily gave Chuck Norris a column in 2006, and used part of his first piece to express his belief the theory of evolution doesn't exist, as well as explaining 'if your soul needs healing, the prescription you need is...Jesus' blood.'" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:09:37 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle But that takes all the suspense out of it! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://darkstar.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:13:49 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Reap: Peter Boyle Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose", from the 3rd season. I memory serves correct, he won a Emmy award for his performance as Clyde Bruckman. It's one my viewing agenda for tonight, that's for sure. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:55:07 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Homo Superior in His Interior.... On Dec 13, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: >> WorldNetDaily? Taking Jeff's question at face value, the short >> answer is yes. They are what Andrew Sullivan calls Christianists. >> > According to Wikipedia, "WorldNetDaily gave Chuck Norris a column > in 2006, > and used part of his first piece to express his belief the theory of > evolution doesn't exist, as well as explaining 'if your soul needs > healing, the prescription you need is...Jesus' blood.'" And who better to extract blood from Jesus than Chuck Norris? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:07:50 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle Bachman, Michael says: > Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde > Bruckman's Final Repose", > from the 3rd season. I memory serves correct, he won a Emmy award for > his performance as Yep, on the Emmy. I don't really know him from anything other than The X-Files. That's one of my favourite episodes. It's pretty funny. I think Scully got that little dog (that later gets killed in the Lochness-esque Monster episode?) from the Boyle character. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:22:54 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle On 12/13/06, Lauren Elizabeth (gmail) wrote: > > Bachman, Michael says: > > > Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde > > Bruckman's Final Repose", > > from the 3rd season. I memory serves correct, he won a Emmy award for > > his performance as > > Yep, on the Emmy. I don't really know him from anything other than > The X-Files. That's one of my favourite episodes. It's pretty funny. > I think Scully got that little dog (that later gets killed in the > Lochness-esque Monster episode?) from the Boyle character. And he also dropped the never-paid-off mythology nugget that Scully "wouldn't die". Oh, for the days when you could believe that that show would make sense in the end. Isn't the invasion supposed to have begun by now, according the the series finale, or some shit? It's YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN all the way for me, kids. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:33:57 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle > Bachman, Michael says: > >> Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde >> Bruckman's Final Repose", >> from the 3rd season. I memory serves correct, he won a Emmy award for >> his performance as One of my favorites of the guests was Charles Nelson Reilly, though Boyle was good. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:30:26 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle On 12/13/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > On 12/13/06, Lauren Elizabeth (gmail) wrote: > > > > Bachman, Michael says: > > > > > Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde > > > Bruckman's Final Repose", > > > from the 3rd season. > Yep, on the Emmy. I don't really know him from anything other than > > The X-Files. That's one of my favourite episodes. > > > And he also dropped the never-paid-off mythology nugget that Scully > "wouldn't die". Oh, for the days when you could believe that that show > would make sense in the end. Isn't the invasion supposed to have begun by > now, according the the series finale, or some shit? That show had one of the most precipitous dropoffs in quality of any I can think of. Up through the first, oh, four or five seasons, it was invariably thoughtful, clever, etc., but without getting too heavy-handed. (It helped that Duchovny's offhandedness as an actor deflated any pretensions his ideas might otherwise have held; similarly with Anderson's groundedness and intensity being leavened by an incisive wit and the increasing affection between the characters.) In the last couple of seasons, though, between losing key cast members (and while their replacements were game, the characters they were asked to play simply weren't as well-drawn or as appealing) and an increasingly annoying focus on a "myth-arc" that was both as convoluted and as appealing to to the show's audience as one of Martin Heidegger's more rococo formulations, the show went so far south its head disappeared right up the Antarctic pole. I stopped watching the last season, after a painful season and a half or so of hoping maybe the next episode would be better - and then watched the finale - - which was the sort of lameass recap that a sixth-grade fanfic writer could have managed better. Ugh. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:03 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle On 12/13/06, 2fs wrote: > > > In the last couple of seasons, though, between losing key cast members > (and > while their replacements were game, the characters they were asked to play > simply weren't as well-drawn or as appealing) and an increasingly annoying > focus on a "myth-arc" that was both as convoluted and as appealing to to > the > show's audience as one of Martin Heidegger's more rococo formulations, the > show went so far south its head disappeared right up the Antarctic pole. While I'm sure that serialized mythology-based TV has gotten a lot more sophisticated since then-- a lot of my friends still watch stuff like "Lost"-- it's precisely because of how X-FILES fizzled that I don't miss watching TV at all. (Well, mostly that, and also the fact that the show that I picked up on in lieu of X-FILES, ALIAS, similarly went south, or at least it was promising to do so when I, coincidentally or not, stopped giving a shit, and most other shows that caught my interest didn't survive). I just don't feel like getting invested in anything only to have it turn shitty on me. It's irritating enough that I'm stuck with the brain-detritus of the shows I already did waste time on. Then again, I could be fooling myself... I don't think I was wired up to be a compulsive TV watcher anyhow. I still kinda keep up with the news and critical analysis of TV, but nothing outside of the occasional documentary has even slightly enticed me back. Plus there's my aforementioned annoyance with the neighbor's TiVo and general overexposure to the Disney Channel, leaving me with the general impression that since I don't have time enough for the stuff I do care to follow (music, film, books), I'm well advised to ignore a medium about which I'm not too enthused to begin with and demands rather a lot of attention, especially as continuity-oriented as all the more-respected shows are these days. And I'll always have shitty new albums by beloved musicians in career slumps to fill that void left by missing the declining seasons of the good shows I never started watching, right? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:37:57 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" > Bachman, Michael says: > > > Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde > > Bruckman's Final Repose", > > from the 3rd season. I memory serves correct, he won a Emmy award for > > his performance as > > Yep, on the Emmy. I don't really know him from anything other than > The X-Files. That's one of my favourite episodes. It's pretty funny. > I think Scully got that little dog (that later gets killed in the > Lochness-esque Monster episode?) from the Boyle character. > > xo > Lauren > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha Queequeg was the name of the little dog. He later appeared in the cockroach epsisode, and then met his demise by the gator in the Lochness-esque Monster episode as Lauren mentioned. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:53:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle >Yep, on the Emmy. I don't really know him from anything other than >The X-Files. Made his first big score in "Joe," the bizarre 1970 satire-cum-psychological-horror flick that was one of Susan Sarandon's first jobs. And don't forget "Steelyard Blues" with Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland and Howard Hesseman and whoever else you can think of. And "Outland," the High-Noon-in-space flick where he's the sleazy bad guy to Sean Connery's noble sheriff. He was also Tea Leoni's mysterious-CIA-agent father in the Fox sitcom Flying Blind. Not to mention his memorable turn opposite Bill Murray in "Where the Buffalo Roam." I never liked him that much - he was a sloppy, lazy actor who never learned how to get out of his own way, and his characters all share the same smirking, self-satisfied attitude. On the other hand, his heart was in the right place - de mortuis nihil nisi bonum, and all. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:50:37 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" > On 12/13/06, Lauren Elizabeth (gmail) wrote: > > > > Bachman, Michael says: > > > > > Peter Boyle was in one of the all time great X-Files episodes "Clyde > > > Bruckman's Final Repose", > > > from the 3rd season. I memory serves correct, he won a Emmy award for > > > his performance as > > > > Yep, on the Emmy. I don't really know him from anything other than > > The X-Files. That's one of my favourite episodes. It's pretty funny. > > I think Scully got that little dog (that later gets killed in the > > Lochness-esque Monster episode?) from the Boyle character. > > > And he also dropped the never-paid-off mythology nugget that Scully > "wouldn't die". Oh, for the days when you could believe that that show > would make sense in the end. Isn't the invasion supposed to have begun by > now, according the the series finale, or some shit? > > It's YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN all the way for me, kids. > > -SER They should began shooting the second X-Files movie in 2007, all the mainstays have signed up for it. Too bad the X-Files sputtered so bad at the end. When the production left from Canada to LA they lost a lot of the dark, rainy atmosphere episodes that those first 5 seasons shot in Canada had. The scripts went downhill also in the sixth season, and like Rex mentioned the mythology episodes stopped making sense. Michael "I love my new Dell 1505 notebook" B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:58:06 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle >And I'll always have shitty new albums by beloved musicians in career slumps >to fill that void left by missing the declining seasons of the good shows I >never started watching, right? > >-SER To quote Terry Southern, "Bitter, baby - bitter!" It's a Raymond Chandler evening / KS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:44:06 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle On 12/13/06, michaeljbachman@comcast.net wrote: > They should began shooting the second X-Files movie in 2007, all the mainstays have signed up for it. Cool. How about the Cigarette-Smoking Man - is he in? I can't even remember if he ended up dead in the series (although that shouldn't prevent X-Files writers with much of a problem). The X-Files was always style over substance for me, so I never payed much attention to the plot turns. Which is probably what enabled me to stick it out until the bitter end with that show. God was it bad. Agreed on those early shows filmed in Vancouver - that terminal overcast makes for a pretty picture. And gave me enough of a hangover to last another few seasons. I haven't had a regular show that I watch since X-Files went off the air and I kind of miss having a show to look forward to. Oh well, they say there are better things to do with my time. xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:59:39 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Reap: Peter Boyle kevin says: << Made his first big score in "Joe," the bizarre 1970 satire-cum-psychological-horror flick that was one of Susan Sarandon's first jobs. >> clip I was just reading about him a bit...some interesting notes. He was a monk at one point (called it "an unnatural way to live" and joined the Navy), and John Lennon was best man at his wedding. Wow, he was in a lot of movies I haven't seen (embarrassingly I've never seen Young Frankenstein but claim gender exemption.) xo Lauren http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/arts/television/14boylecnd.html?ei=5094&en=abd027a43691d3a0&hp=&ex=1166072400&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1166048484-yA2HBIvei+2Wp6D4OgXaUg (registration required) Softcopy: << The New York Times December 13, 2006 Peter Boyle, Father on 'Raymond,' Dies at 71 By ROBERT BERKVIST Peter Boyle, who left the life of a monk to study acting and went on to become one of the most successful character actors of his time in films like "The Candidate," "Young Frankenstein" and "Monster's Ball," then capped his career with a long stint as the meddlesome father on the hit sitcom "Everybody Loves Raymond," died Tuesday evening in Manhattan. He was 71. His death, at New York Presbyterian Hospital, was announced by his publicist, Jennifer Plante. She said Mr. Boyle had suffered from multiple myeloma and heart disease. With his bulky frame and balding pate, Mr. Boyle was a formidable presence on screen, whether playing a drunken redneck ("Joe"), a corrupt union leader ("F.I.S.T.") or a savvy private eye ("Hammett"). He could be convincingly chilling, so much so that he often ran the risk of being typecast. When he appeared with Peter Falk and Paul Sorvino in William Friedkin's 1978 film "The Brink's Job," as a member of the gang that robs an armored car company of nearly $3 million, the New York Times critic Vincent Canby wrote that "Mr. Boyle's role is one that he could telephone in by this time." But it wasn't all thugs and gangsters. In 1974, Mr. Boyle made a memorable impression in Mel Brooks's "Young Frankenstein," in which he played the bumbling monster brought to life by the addled grandson (Gene Wilder) of the original Dr. Frankenstein. In one high point, Mr. Boyle's monster, decked out in white tie and tails ` la Fred Astaire, performed a nifty soft-shoe routine with Mr. Wilder while bellowing out the lyrics of "Puttin' On the Ritz." Mr. Boyle, who once admitted to being "a little nutty," enjoyed his infrequent ventures into film comedy. In "Where the Buffalo Roam" (1980), a screen portrait of the freewheeling writer Hunter S. Thompson (Bill Murray), he went happily wild as the writer's carousing companion. Along with members of the Monty Python troupe, he was part of a zany pirate crew in "Yellowbeard" (1983). And in "The Dream Team" (1989), he tried to wring laughs from his role as a mental patient with a fixation on Jesus. His breakthrough, however, was no laughing matter. He won the title role in the 1970 film "Joe," about a hard-drinking, hate-filled factory worker who improbably joins forces with a murderous executive in a bloody war on "hippies" and the rest of the counterculture. Mr. Boyle said that he was paid only $3,000 for his work in "Joe" but that he realized he had taken a giant step forward. The role, he said at the time, seemed to have been made for him because he'd grown up surrounded by people like Joe. "I knew the character so well that when it came to the actual shooting of the movie, I was worried that I would do a caricature," " he said. Writing in The Times, Mr. Canby called "Joe" one of the 10 worst films of the year but hailed Mr. Boyle's performance as "extraordinary." Peter Boyle was born on Oct. 18, 1935, in Northtown, Pa. After graduating from La Salle College, he became a member of the Christian Brothers order and entered a monastery as Brother Francis. He later recalled praying "so hard, I had calluses on my knees." After three effortful years, he left the monastery  he later called it "an unnatural way to live"  and, after a brief period in the Navy that ended in a nervous breakdown, came to New York City to try the life of an actor. There, he studied with Uta Hagen, worked at whatever jobs he could find, toured with a road company of Neil Simon's "Odd Couple" and wound up in Chicago, where he joined the Second City troupe and immersed himself in improvisational theater. He was living in Chicago at the time of the Democratic National Convention in 1968 and never forgot the ensuing explosion of violence and the reek of tear gas in the streets. Early on, he described himself as a "conservative radical." Politics was an element in some of his work in the years ahead, although more often on television than in film. An exception was "The Candidate" (1972), the film in which he played a cool-headed campaign manager for a liberal Democrat (Robert Redford) running for the Senate. In the 1977 NBC movie "Tail Gunner Joe," he portrayed Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, with Burgess Meredith as the Boston lawyer Joseph Welch in the notorious Army-McCarthy hearings. Mr. Boyle relived his 1968 experience in Chicago on HBO's "Conspiracy: The Trial of the Chicago Eight" (1987), appearing as one of the jailed political protesters, David Dellinger. And in the 1989 CBS docudrama "Guts and Glory: The Rise and Fall of Oliver North," he played Vice Admiral John M. Poindexter, a national security adviser. Despite his early theatrical training, Mr. Boyle clearly preferred film and television over stage work. He was seen on Broadway in 1980 in "The Roast," directed by Carl Reiner, in which he played a comedian who is the guest of honor, with lots to hide, at a no-holds-barred "roast," or stag dinner, given by his fellow comics. Off Broadway later that year, he co-starred with Tommy Lee Jones in a Public Theater production of Sam Shepard's "True West," about the warring relationship of two brothers. He also appeared at the Circle Repertory in 1982 in the ill-conceived "Snow Orchid," a play by Joe Pintauro in which he played the mentally unstable head of a dysfunctional family in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn. In his private life, Mr. Boyle was a functional and devoted family man. He had met Loraine Alterman, his wife-to-be, when he was filming "Young Frankenstein" and she was interviewing Mel Brooks for Rolling Stone magazine. They were married in 1977, with John Lennon as best man at their wedding. She survives him, along with their daughters Lucy and Amy. Mr. Boyle's film credits in the late '80s and early '90s included "Walker" (1987), in which Ed Harris played the American adventurer William Walker, who briefly seized control of Nicaragua in the mid-19th century; Mr. Boyle played his supporter Commodore Cornelius Vanderbilt. In "Bulletproof Heart" (1995), Mr. Boyle was cast as a professional hitman. In "Monster's Ball" (2001), he gave an acclaimed performance as the bigoted father of a prison death-house guard (Billy Bob Thornton). Mr. Boyle was also becoming a familiar face on television, appearing in several episodes of ABC's "NYPD Blue" and winning an Emmy Award in 1996 for a guest appearance on the long-running Fox series "The X-Files." That was also the year Mr. Boyle became a member of the Barone family on the durable CBS sitcom "Everybody Loves Raymond." The series starred the comedian Ray Romano as Ray Barone, a sportswriter whose parents (played by Mr. Boyle and Doris Roberts) are all too willing to complicate daily life in Ray's suburban household. As the grouchy, wisecracking Frank Barone, Mr. Boyle could be counted on to win laughs, as he did for nine seasons. The role brought him five Emmy nominations. Mr. Boyle suffered a stroke in 1990 and had a heart attack while taping an episode of "Raymond" in 1999, but he quickly recovered and continued his career, pursuing what he called his challenge on "Raymond"  "finding where the funny is." >> - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:51:23 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: reap Lamar Hunt, 74. AFL founder, owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, founding investor of MLS and for who name the US Open cup has been renamed. I think most will know him from football, but it's because of him (and AEG) that we have pro soccer again in the States. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16174309/ Michael ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #301 ********************************