From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #283 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 25 2006 Volume 15 : Number 283 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Newb needs lift to Croc show [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Newb needs lift to Croc show ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] frontal lobe damage and Bickering [great white shark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:56:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Newb needs lift to Croc show - --On 24. November 2006 06:25:55 -0600 Brian Huddell wrote: > Everyone on this list is a persona, a construction created by the > subscriber to best serve her experience of the list. For example, I'm a > hedgehog. In the real world none of you would talk to me. I don't blame > you -- we're pretty gross, us hedgehogs. Are you kidding me? Hedgehogs are about the cutest animals I know! My parents have a garden and when you're sitting on the patio on a mild summer's night you are likely to hear some rustling in the shrubbery and a hedgehog will waddle along. My aunt has rescued a few from the cold and helped them hibernate in a carton in the basement. Alas, our American friends don't even know what we're talking about. They tend to mix them up with porcupines. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:04:53 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Newb needs lift to Croc show On Nov 24, 2006, at 5:56 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Alas, our American friends don't even know what we're talking > about. They tend to mix them up with porcupines. Hey now! I've seen hedgehogs, er, I mean I *think* I've seen 'em in the movies! I never saw one in person, but I get the idea. Read about 'em in books. Cute critters. On the Eb and Rex thing - I like 'em both, hell, I like pretty much everyone on the list! Have for a long time. That's why I stay even though it's obvious I am NOT a music geek (other than that Robyn fellow). But honestly, when things get bitchy, I tune it out. It's an annoyance when it turns personal and really sours the list and I did once unsubscribe because of flame wars - the infamous 2000 elections - - but I came back. Just my opinion, but I guess I'm saying that this is a community of exceptional people and some of that snide-ness needs to stay off list. I don't want to take sides against list members or even read the diatribes. Flame away off list all you want. Even me for saying this. And Sebastian - if you want to send us some hedgehogs we'll be happy to send you some of our cute and cuddly rattlesnakes - we've got plenty of 'em out here in California. Take my eyes, I've used them, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:55:27 -0500 From: "rubrshrk" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #282 With Thanksgiving in mind, I have to say that this place is like a family. We put the FUN (sometimes) in dysfunction. We don't always. I still don't understand why this stuff get's drawn out on the list. None of us are going to feel vanquished, nobody is going to be right as long as the bickering goes on. I like Rex, Quail, and Eb. I actually even like hedgehogs and armadillos. The personal attacks are not appropriate for this place and the more personal the worse they are. I also don't need to be reminded about "what an asshole this guy is," whoever "this guy" may be. Those of us who speak as the voice of authority are likely to have others disagree with us, or belittle our tastes. This doesn't have to be a moral crusade. We're talking about music here, for at least at the germ of these degenerations. Not to go all PC on your asses, but I don't know why we have to be right. I have no shortage of opinions. If you don't agree with those opinions, we simply disagree, you are incorrect, or a jerk- but, I don't need to shoot your opinion down. Yes, I could be mistaken, but who's going to admit _that_? I think that misposting to the list is inappropriate and avoidable, though, likewise, I can't imagine why anyone would send a direct email to his listfoe. It may be advisable to do some killfile management, just to keep the dander down for your personal sakes. Maybe also subscribe to the digest to keep the heat down in real time. All of this comes down as a real drag for the readers and a thermonuclear super mega mega drag for woj. I miss a lot of people who find other stuff to do when the list degenerates. Some of my favorite people here have probably left altogether. Happies, - -markg (the original sharkboy on the list, but a list that goes around the world is big enough for a whole tent of sharks) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:29:26 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Newb needs lift to Croc show On 11/23/06, Eb wrote: > > > Was that a private email? If so, I didn't notice. Nutcase has rarely > emailed me, so I automatically processed it as a post. Yes, it was. I'm astonished that it got posted to the list. Half of its content had to do with the fact that I was refusing to be baited into onlist battles yet again, so even a cursory reading should've revealed that it was a private e-mail. The other half was not for onlist consumption. Applying a little logic, knowing that that e-mail was meant for Eb's eyes only... there would only be two reasons for me to make that assertion. One is if I'm nuts, if Eb believes. The other is that I sincerely believe it, for whatever reason. How embarassing for someone to've unnecessarily broadcast such a claim about himself. Seems like the kind of thing Quail would find funny if he were not so partisan. Is there really anyone left on the list who doesn't realize that divorce has completely DESTROYED Rex's emotional stability? Appararently so. I think that it's ironic that you claim that I know "this much" about your personal life, and yet again and again you throw out this claim that my divorce, about which you know nothing, has driven me around the bend. Nobody here knows much at all about my personal life, actually. tell ya, I'm seriously considering leaving the list. The go on with your bad self. I'm not. Cheers, SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:59:41 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Newb needs lift to Croc show Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Appararently so. I think that it's ironic that you claim that I > know "this much" about your personal life, and yet again and again > you throw out this claim that my divorce, about which you know > nothing, has driven me around the bend. Nobody here knows much at > all about my personal life, actually. We know when your separation occurred. And we know you've been a bag of shattered glass ever since. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:39:58 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: frontal lobe damage and Bickering Fegs, hear me , my mother watches "The bold and the beautiful" and thats far fetched, but this whole angst ridden and cliched interchange between Rex and Ebbo is far weirder and much more diverting . However ,despite its perverse fascination, the whole interchange is extremely juvenile and it reminds me of the hordes of underdeveloped sharklets I teach who are constantly arguing amongst themselves and with their elders . These cretins are totally incapable of empathizing with anyone else, so obsessed are they with their own self righteousness . Its a waste of time arguing with many adolescents as their frontal lobes have not developed sufficiently to enable them to see anyone else's viewpoint , or to see how their actions are affecting others around them . In adults this usually occurs when the front of the brain is damaged in a car accident or fall. Gentlefegs , I content that Rex and Eb are suffering from a joint case of damage to the frontal lobes ! , It is possible of course that neither of these good fegs lobes have ever developed sufficiently in the first place for them to understand that they are making themselves look like the biggest pair of drongos , prannets, dropkicks and dipsticks that the list has ever had the mis/fortune to encounter, but I prefer to proscribe to the the charitable view and opt for the damage scenario. We must pity these poor misguided fegs and minister to them in their hour of need . The sad thing is that neither of them seem to think they are at all to blame and they also don't seem worried that they have an audience to their fatuous and soap opera like conversations- or perhaps they DO realize it and are simply letting this whole thing continue on list because they don't get enough satisfaction acting like poison puff adders in private and they feel the need to act this thing out in public - now thats worrying ....... no, no that cannot be the case ! I am reminded of the classic scene on the Young Ones, where Rick chides Neil Mike and Vivian for their constant whiney conduct. it goes something like this ' rick " Boys boys look at us , bickering, bickering, we never used to be like this " mike " we've always been like this " and indeed so these two fegs have , except they seem to be getting worse/better at it , depending on your viewpoint. take it off list lads and do us all a favor hmmmm ? der commander > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:02:56 -0800 > From: Eb > Subject: Re: Newb needs lift to Croc show > > Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >>> Wow. Yet ANOTHER wholly invented accusation from our resident >>> frothing nutcase, stated with the pretense of "concrete knowledge." >> >> Wholly invented my ass. And you know it. Rave on, virgin-boy! > > Let's keep track of Rex's charges, eh? > > I'm a confirmed sociopath...closeted homosexual...virgin...at least > two restraining orders filed against me...anything else? > > Is there really anyone left on the list who doesn't realize that > divorce has completely DESTROYED Rex's emotional stability? "Froth" > is practically his sigfile now. > > I tell ya, I'm seriously considering leaving the list. Not because I > can't deal with the accusations of a deranged, squalling twit who > needs an outlet for his divorce fury, but because I'm so appalled at > the shortage of objections from others. These sorts of poisonous, > personal-life character smears are a far different kettle o' fins > than me just being critical of the content of someone's mailing-list > post. > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:22:27 -0800 From: "Bri N" Subject: OFFLIST! Offlist, please!!!! - --- ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: From: Eb To: fgz Subject: Re: Newb needs lift to Croc show Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:59:41 -0800 Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Appararently so. I think that it's ironic that you claim that I > know "this much" about your personal life, and yet again and again > you throw out this claim that my divorce, about which you know > nothing, has driven me around the bend. Nobody here knows much at > all about my personal life, actually. We know when your separation occurred. And we know you've been a bag of shattered glass ever since. Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #283 ********************************