From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #277 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 18 2006 Volume 15 : Number 277 Today's Subjects: ----------------- reap ["Michael Wells" ] Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show [Tom Clark ] something to ponder [Jill Brand ] qvelling [Jill Brand ] Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Joanna Newsom [Capuchin ] Bloody hell are you doubting me word EB ? [great white shark ] Fw: Joanna Newsom [J ] reap [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] proof verifiable proof ! [great white shark ] NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock Sunday 8th August 2004 "The White Album Against The War" Medecins Sans Frontieres Benefit: Second Night [] NYC: Hiro Ballroom gig [The Great Quail ] Re: reap [2fs ] Re: NYC: Hiro Ballroom gig [2fs ] Re: robyn radio 11/16 thursday (3 shows) [wojbearpig ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:23:11 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: reap Bo Schembeckler, 77. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2665857 Hmm, you can still get Michigan +7 for tomorrow... Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:28:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show On Nov 17, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > I assume it's Morris singing and perchance percussingm but Rieflin > still > behind the kit? > > My questions are: > > 1) Is this unreleased recorded the previously-alluded-to one that > they've > already recorded? Yes > > 2) Is the Venus Three about to instantaneously > equal the Soft Boys for sheer number of official records? Whoa. My count is Soft Boys 4, Venus 3 2. > > 3) Who's doing the documentary? Dunno. > > 4) When the hell is REM going to have any time to be REM with all > of this > going on? Or is Robyn doing a public service by keeping these guys > too busy > for that to happen? Whutta guy. Exactly! > > Good time to be a Robyn fan, innit? Always! - -tc, Friday before a two week vacation!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:38:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: something to ponder Stewart wrote: Plus, she has mad harp arpeggio skillz. And she sometimes plays in a punk band. If you hate Joanna, you hate America. Hm, there might be something in that. But I'm not sure I have to take anything seriously from someone who spells "skills" with a "z." It's too gangsta for consideration. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:47:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: qvelling Qvelling is Yiddish, and I'm not sure how you spell it, but it kinda means "bursting with pride," and I figure that I can do that here every once in a while. We found out last night that my son has gotten into the MENC (the National Association for Music Education - no one can figure out what the acronym is for) All-Eastern Honors Chorus. This is an honors chorus representing the best choristers from 12 states. He is one of 28 high school juniors and seniors from Massachusetts (and, the way he's figured it, he's one of 3.5 tenor IIs from MA) to get in. Hartford, here we come! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:07:56 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show On 11/17/06, Tom Clark wrote: > > > > 1) Is this unreleased recorded the previously-alluded-to one that > > they've > > already recorded? > > Yes Did we ever get a transcription or link to the interview where RH talked about this? All I remember is "recorded in Robyn's house" and "Johnny Marr wrote a song".... > > > 2) Is the Venus Three about to instantaneously > > equal the Soft Boys for sheer number of official records? Whoa. > > My count is Soft Boys 4, Venus 3 2. I have the SB's at 3 (not counting IH) and thought the V3 was gunning for two at time, but I see that that is not the case. If you count all the albums the SB's tried to record, forget it! - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:17:31 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show On Nov 17, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > > > > 2) Is the Venus Three about to instantaneously > > equal the Soft Boys for sheer number of official records? Whoa. > > My count is Soft Boys 4, Venus 3 2. > > I have the SB's at 3 (not counting IH) and thought the V3 was > gunning for two at time, but I see that that is not the case. If > you count all the albums the SB's tried to record, forget it! > I included 'Side 3' in my Soft Boys tally. Granted it's more of an EP, but it is an official record. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:21:01 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: filming at Sunday Hoboken show On 11/17/06, Tom Clark wrote: > > > I included 'Side 3' in my Soft Boys tally. Granted it's more of an > EP, but it is an official record. I was assuming you counted IH. Even discounting live boots from the reunion, man, do I have a lot more SB's records than there should be. Unissued Radar LP, Day They Ate Brick, Portland Arms, Raw Cuts, the deleted Ryko comp, on and on and on... - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:59:24 -0800 (PST) From: J Subject: Re: Joanna Newsom On 16/11/06, Jill Brand wrote: >I knew the song Bridges and Balloons because Colin Meloy/The Decemberists have covered it. It sounded like a pretty >OK song...until I heard her sing it. Haha. Yes, she is not for everyone. But for me, she sounds so completely genuine, like she just can't help who she is. Which is precisely why I can't really get into The Decemberists. For me, Colon Meloy is trying sooooo hard. I wouldn't like to hear him do Bridges and Balloons. That song is just so characteristic of her and she is so adorably weird when she sings it!! It doesn't really suit him. Her songs just sound so personal, like she is thinking aloud. I am finding myself so disappointed in the comparisons that critics are making of her. It's always Bjork or Kate Bush or even Bob Dylan, wahh? It's like they are afraid of crossing some line drawn by Spin Magazine. Surely they could dredge up some American folk artists and broaden the horizon a bit. People on this list have had some good ones, though. I like whoever said Olive Oyle - nice! To me, she sounds a bit like granny Clampett. It's hard to name many female artists who aren't scared shitless of being ugly, unless it's for an Oscar or something. - -Julie Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Joanna Newsom On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, J wrote: > I am finding myself so disappointed in the comparisons that critics are > making of her. It's always Bjork or Kate Bush or even Bob Dylan, wahh? > It's like they are afraid of crossing some line drawn by Spin Magazine. > Surely they could dredge up some American folk artists and broaden the > horizon a bit. People on this list have had some good ones, though. I > like whoever said Olive Oyle - nice! To me, she sounds a bit like > granny Clampett. To me, she sounds exactly like Alfalfa from Our Gang. I HATED her at first and thought that her schtick is a thousand times more distracting than Colin Meloy's. But then I heard Inflammatory Writ and the cleverness of it won my heart and I was able to come to terms with the terrible singing. (And it IS terrible singing... it just happens to be pleasant to hear. Edvard Munch was a terrible painter whose pictures are really interesting to see. Kevin Smith is a horrible filmmaker, but I like watching his movies. There are qualities beyond skillful craftsmanship.) Colin's earnestness is in his effort to appear to be something he very clearly is not, if that makes any sense. While his affectations are worthy of eye-rolling, his constant striving to affect them is kind of sweetly naive. > It's hard to name many female artists who aren't scared shitless of > being ugly, unless it's for an Oscar or something. Oh, she's not being ugly, she's trying to be cute. But ugly *is* the new retarded. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:27:40 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: Bloody hell are you doubting me word EB ? That son of fun eb expostulated > A shame that you couldn't convey any of your sincere excitement over > seeing Hitchcock for the first time, and instead had to hide behind > all that contrived "surreal" spew. > > Eb Are you doubtin the veracity of my review ebbie ? If so I shall have to ask you to step outside into cyberspace and have this out shark to man . I swear on me mums fins that every bleeding word of it is true and I'll get Ianto to post to the list as a witness if needed ! Stone me you yanks are a bleeding suspicious lot ! I'm mortified ! der kommander ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:40:16 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: REAP Ruth Brown. _________________________________________________________________ View Athletes Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:42:26 -0800 (PST) From: J Subject: Fw: Joanna Newsom I just wrote: >It's hard to name many female artists who aren't >scared shitless of being ugly, unless it's for an Oscar or something. Oh dear oh dear oh dear!!! I'm afraid this came out wrong. What I meant to say is that there are few artists in general who aren't afraid of looking ugly, myself included. Don't know why I tagged it on females only. My point was that I admire her confidence. sigh. Humbly, Julie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link $420k for $1,399/mo. Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:50:32 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: reap Ferenc Puskas, 79 Before Pele, there was Puskas James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:03:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Ferenc Puskas, 79 > > Before Pele, there was Puskas Puskas was the Hawaiian fire and volcano goddess first? "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:33:37 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: proof verifiable proof ! Fegs. My reputation has been impugned by that rascal Eb , but never fear . as I promised here is a confirmation that every word of my review is the gospel thruth from : ozdh@yahoo.com Subject: Re: the gov review is the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth Date: November 18, 2006 11:27:13 PM GMT+10:30 To: archive@bigpond.net.au Great White One your words describe the whole and substance of what i remember as a very aquatic and magnificent adventure... and i have the living proof, a signed poster, somewhat splashed, that tells me it really happened 'onya sport! ianto go suck on that Ebbie, you drongo Oh ye of little faith .... shame on you !!!!!!! der Kommander ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:41:09 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock Sunday 8th August 2004 "The White Album Against The War" Medecins Sans Frontieres Benefit: Second Night http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=121807&hit=1 - ----- Forwarded message from DIME ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 121807 Title: Robyn Hitchcock Sunday 8th August 2004"The White Album Against The War" Medecins Sans Frontieres Benefit: Second Night Size: 549.40 MB Category: Alternate Uploaded by: ocelot Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends Sunday 8th August 2004 The 3 Kings, Clerkenwell, London Audience Recording "The White Album Against The War" Medecins Sans Frontieres Benefit: Second Night Lineage MD master>CDR>EAC>FLAC 8 Robyn Hitchcock Kimberley Rew Paul Noble David Moritzi Morris Windsor with: Adam Buxton, Ed Harcourt Another great set from the legendary 3 Kings Pub in Clerkenwell. As Robyn says, "This is a stereo concert". Since the whole show was done for charity, downloaders might like to consider making a donation or other contribution to Medecin sans Frontiers. Medecins Sans Frontieres : http://www.msf.org/msfinternational/donations/ Disc 1: Sides 1 and 2 Back in the U.S.S.R. Dear Prudence Glass Onion Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da Wild Honey Pie Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill While My Guitar Gently Weeps Happiness Is a Warm Gun Martha My Dear I'm So Tired Blackbird Piggies Rocky Racoon Don't Pass Me By Why Don't We Do It In The Road I Will Julia Disc: 2: sides 3 and 4 Birthday Yer Blues Mother Nature's Son Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey Sexy Sadie Helter Skelter Long, Long, Long Revolution 1 Honey Pie Savoy Truffle Cry Baby Cry Revolution 9 Goodnight Robyn Hitchcock: 'We raised a total of 5,665 for Mdecins Sans Frontires over the two nights of "The White Album Against The War" at the Three Kings. Darren,Kim, Morris, Paul and I had a great time saturating ourselves in this late Beatle music and playing it at point-blank range without oxygen cylinders. Thank you to everyone who came to the gigs. The money will go to Darfur, Sudan, where MSF are now helping to improve life for many stricken people. We hope to do another session at the 3 Kings for MSF before too long. Michle Noach (who organised the event) and I would also like to thank: Adam Buxton, Ed Harcourt, Callina de la Mare, Terry Edwards, and Romeo Stoddart for helping out with the show; Peter Blake for donating artwork to the after-show auctions; Liz Crawford, Michel Faber, and Vicky Hawkins for MC-ing between sides 2 and 3; and Deke Eichler and Simon Griffin for "Number 9."' - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:59:47 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: NYC: Hiro Ballroom gig Wow. First of all, the Hiro Ballroom in Chelsea is kind of a perfect place to see Robyn. It's deliberately done up to look like the set of a martial arts flick, particularly the Crazy 88 scene in "Kill Bill vol. 1." All dark wood, Japanese lanterns, mirrors, candles, enigmatic murals, rising suns, Chinese dragons....it's really fun, though were were somewhat shocked when two beers and a small glass of sake came out to $31. Even though the show was sold-out, the crowed was a perfect size, always a sign of a well-run venue. (Though restroom attendants always freak me out. They fill me with this bourgeois cognitive dissonance: this is one of the worst jobs on earth, but for a dollar, this guy will help me wash my hands. Oh boy.) I have to say, there was a real air of excitement in the crowd that I haven't seen at Robyn shows. David Fricke was present, there were a lot of Reserved Tables filled with suspiciously older, well-groomed people, and the general crowd was just buzzing with anticipation. I had the feeling that this was a definite "event" -- hell, even the New York Times ran a *photo* of Robyn. I bet even Lawndart was there. Thanks to Gary Assassin being an early bird, my group (Me, LJ, and a first-time friend) actually scored one of the only free tables. (Unfortunately, I missed Jon Lewis, but Gary said he saw Mr. Hooker, so a quick shout-out.) Anyway, the gig was simply fantastic. Robyn was in peak form -- cheerful and happy, and filled with loopy digressions, improvised song fragments, and surreal stories. It was really a delight to see him like that again. (Black shirt, white polka-dots, very little blinking.) He made reference to his bad back, but played standing up for most of the show, only taking to a chair toward the end. The band was fantastic. The Venus 5 were tight, and played the songs like a real band, not just very talented back-up musicians. I kept thinking, "Please stay together for a while, write new music, have some fun, please...!" Toward the final third of the set, Morris Windsor joined them on stage, singing harmonies and playing a few shaky-rattley things. And yeah, he still looks just like Morris Windsor. It was really a lovely moment, and the crowd cheered like greeting an old friend. But back to the amazing performance. All the songs, new and old, had this certain texture, a rich density coupled with a real sense of propulsion. There was an urgency to the music I haven't heard since the Soft Boys reunion, and more to the point, the Egyptians. I think a lot of credit for this goes to Scott McCaughey. His bass was a definite switch from Metcalfe or Seligman -- it was muscular, driving, and loud. Don't get me wrong, I love those Eighties guys a whole lot. But Scott's style provided a backbone to the songs that really let Robyn and Peter cut loose and play.... And boy, did they shine. There were a few times that the two of them fell into a perfect groove, guitars interlocking in a mesmerizing series of shimmering arpeggios. You could tell it in their faces, too -- Robyn and Peter just seemed so *happy,* like they knew they were making magic. It reminded me of a jangle-pop King Crimson at times. Early on, when one of these crystalline exchanges dissolved into a perfect "Chinese Bones," I had the feeling that this was going to be among the best Robyn shows I've seen. They played most of the new album, which came across fully fleshed-out and dead-on. "Underground Sun" and "Authority Box" were the highlights. Another was "Television," which never sounded more haunting and ethereal, and genuinely spooky. As far as old tunes, while I didn't keep a set list, I recall a super-tight "If I Was a Priest," a chiming "Queen of Eyes," a passionate "Jewels for Sophia," and a delightful (and surprising) "Vibrating." They also played "Radio Storm," which took a while to get off of the ground, but finally gelled into one of the best songs of the night. A snarling "I Wanna Destroy You" was dedicated to the Republicans ("Well, Rumsfeld is on his way out, but this is to the rest of them.") There was a similar sense of anger to "Somewhere Apart," with Robyn invoking his best John Lennon. And finally, "Flesh Number One (Beatle Dennis)" was introduced by, "There are a lot of ways to care about nothing. This is one of the best, and one of the most happy song's I've written," or something to that effect. Thankfully, no overplayed songs like "Balloon Man" or "Queen Elvis," and no gimmicky songs. Sadly, there were very few covers, even though I was expecting a "Kung Fu Fighting" for sure, given the room. Encores included the Minus 5's "Oh Shit Man," and a deliriously psychedelic "Eight Miles High." All in all, I've been to over 30 Robyn shows, and this was among the top five.... - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:31:44 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 11/18/06, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > Ferenc Puskas, 79 > > > > Before Pele, there was Puskas > > Puskas was the Hawaiian fire and volcano goddess > first? No, Puskas was a post-rock instrumental combo. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:51:50 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: NYC: Hiro Ballroom gig On 11/18/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > > Even though the show was sold-out, the crowed was a perfect size, always a > sign of a well-run venue. (Though restroom attendants always freak me out. > They fill me with this bourgeois cognitive dissonance: this is one of the > worst jobs on earth, but for a dollar, this guy will help me wash my > hands. > Oh boy.) I don't know that I've ever been to a place with a restroom attendant - but I think it'd be enough for me to, like, wait or maybe sneak outside to an alley. I don't *need* any help using the bathroom, thanks - and there's just something inherently demeaning about the job. There was a judge in town a few years ago who was infamous for his "shaming" punishments - like having a guy stand in a public place with a placard around his neck reading "I solicited prostitutes." The problem with this sort of punishment is that while it certainly humiliates the offender, I think it's degrading and embarrassing to other people to have to see that. I know I would resent having to see this guy getting humiliated - and what the hell did I do to deserve that? Anyway: > I think a lot of credit for this goes to Scott McCaughey. His bass was a > definite switch from Metcalfe or Seligman -- it was muscular, driving, and > loud. Don't get me wrong, I love those Eighties guys a whole lot. But > Scott's style provided a backbone to the songs that really let Robyn and > Peter cut loose and play.... > > And boy, did they shine. There were a few times that the two of them fell > into a perfect groove, guitars interlocking in a mesmerizing series of > shimmering arpeggios. You could tell it in their faces, too -- Robyn and > Peter just seemed so *happy,* like they knew they were making magic. It > reminded me of a jangle-pop King Crimson at times. Early on, when one of > these crystalline exchanges dissolved into a perfect "Chinese Bones," I > had > the feeling that this was going to be among the best Robyn shows I've > seen. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. In fact I always thought the bass sound was a weak point of some of the earlier band-based work - but these musicians seem to strike a sound that hits all the key nodes of Robyn's ideal band idiom. I agree that it would be excellent if they can continue to work together. I suppose that if Buck can manage being in two "bands," why not three? The sort of shifting ensemble thing that folks like McCaughey engages in isn't all that common in rock - but of course in jazz it happens all the time. You look at a bunch of jazz records from, say, 1957 - and a shifting rotation of a lot of the same key players appears on all kinds of different records, under the names of many different leaders (often depending whose compositions are featured, but not always). No reason (other than biz-related) rock musicians can't do something similar - so long as the music is a bit more intuitive and less arrangement-dependent, I suppose. "Somewhere Apart," with Robyn invoking his best John Lennon. I've always thought that song is nearly a Lennon *impression* - almost to the point of being diminished by that fact (specifically, of "Remember"). But only almost - I still like it. Thankfully, no overplayed songs like "Balloon Man" or "Queen Elvis," and no > gimmicky songs. Sadly, there were very few covers, even though I was > expecting a "Kung Fu Fighting" for sure, given the room. Maybe it just seemed *too* obvious? > All in all, I've been to over 30 Robyn shows, and this was among the top > five.... I'm beginning to really regret not having gone down to Chicago this time 'round.... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:23:49 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: robyn radio 11/16 thursday (3 shows) one time at band camp, HwyCDRrev@aol.com (HwyCDRrev@aol.com) said: >Thursday, November 16 / New York City area >Noon b 1:00 pm _WFMU with Irene Trudel_ (http://www.wfmu.org/~irene/) just a clarification: as it says on irene's webpage, this performance will be aired on monday, december 4th. woj ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #277 ********************************