From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #231 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 4 2006 Volume 15 : Number 231 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull ["Spo] Re: Bleakest. Book. Ever. ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull [Eb <] Re: Bleakest. Book. Ever. [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull ["Spo] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull [Eb <] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull ["Spo] I've got Eb's cold [Jill Brand ] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull [Eb <] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull ["Spo] Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull [Eb <] Belltown Ramble [J ] OT Allmusic review: ["Bri N" ] Re: Quail probably predicted this [J ] Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like [] Re: OT Allmusic review: ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Belltown Ramble ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like [] Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like [] Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like [] Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like [] Re: My name is SER, and here's a reminder of why you all hate me so much [2fs ] RE: Bleakest. Book. Ever. ["michael wells" ] Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like [] Fwd: Fw: Fw: Citgo [theodius ] Warbles & etc. [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Bleakest. Book. Ever. - Robert Anton Wilson [Caroline Smith ] Re: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Citgo ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:40:14 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > > Reaching. So. Very. HARD. No, I'm not. It's the way I honestly perceive it. Seriously, you can move on to whining about your illnesses some more... I think we've established our relative positions on this enormously who-gives-a-shit issue. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:49:44 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Bleakest. Book. Ever. > From: The Great Quail > > Basically, it's a bout a father and son wandering along an empty > American > wasteland made utterly cold, grey, and desolate by some (as yet > unidentified) fate. Holy shit. Sounds like a novel about either of these paintings: , . (Potentially NSFW in Republican states.) Thanks for the tip, Quail. I couldn't finish Atwood's "Oryx and Crake" -- it just bummed me out way too much (but that may be because I was trying to read it in the sun, on the beach, drinking a beer, in the Cayman Islands), but I'll add this one to my list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:12:24 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull >> Reaching. So. Very. HARD. > > No, I'm not. It's the way I honestly perceive it. Well, if nothing else, at least this discussion showed why you think there is such a lengthy list of albums which are Sister Lovers-esque. With criteria this loose and forgiving, noooo wonder. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:40:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Bleakest. Book. Ever. - -----Original Message----- >> From: The Great Quail >> Basically, it's a bout a father and son wandering along an empty >> American >> wasteland made utterly cold, grey, and desolate by some (as yet >> unidentified) fate. Bleaker than The Crossing??? I thought that was his best to date. I openly wept through some passages. Thanks for the heads up - I guess I'm buying a book today! carrie aka bleakbabe (yeah, ok, haven't been called that in a while but the art school tag sticks for some friends...) ps: the sickest news I've heard in a long time is what happened in Washington last Thursday when the constitution was completely scrapped and King George came in to his own. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:41:00 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > >> Reaching. So. Very. HARD. > > > > No, I'm not. It's the way I honestly perceive it. > > Well, if nothing else, at least this discussion showed why you think > there is such a lengthy list of albums which are Sister Lovers-esque. > With criteria this loose and forgiving, noooo wonder. Well, it also further proved what a stuck-up didactic prick you are, like we needed that. And the fascinating thing is, no matter how long you insist on being an ass about it, my opinion or enjoyment of any of those records remain completely unaffected. Was it good for you? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:53:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >> Well, if nothing else, at least this discussion showed why you think >> there is such a lengthy list of albums which are Sister Lovers-esque. >> With criteria this loose and forgiving, noooo wonder. > > Well, it also further proved what a stuck-up didactic prick you > are, like we > needed that. > > And the fascinating thing is, no matter how long you insist on > being an > ass about it, my opinion or enjoyment of any of those records remain > completely unaffected. Was it good for you? I don't feel that calling me vulgar names really did much to counter my previous comment. Please do not redundantly CC: me your posts. Thank you. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:25:30 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > > I don't feel that calling me vulgar names really did much to counter > my previous comment. Nothing could, in your mind: for some reason you view your opinions as facts. I think I'd made plenty of valid comments, which failed to convince you of anything, which should be fine... your basic aesthetic disagreement. You respond by saying, in effect, that I am simply wrong-- unless I'm mistaken and the extra o's in the word "soooooo" were meant to sound like something other than a contemptful, disrespectful sneer. And as usual you don't bother to address anything I had to say in the first place. > Please do not redundantly CC: me your posts. Thank you. You're welcome. Always a pleasure to do a favor to someone who treats me so very kindly. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:55:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: I've got Eb's cold Quail and then Aaron wrote: > 3. I am now listening to the Decemberist's "Crane Wife." It's.... So far, > it's.... It's prog-folk. I am only halfway through the album, but it's > definitely more "Tain" that "Picaresque." I think I read that although The Tain came out before Picaresque, it was recorded later. So yeah, this record has sort of been in the cards for a long time. ****************************************************************** I.....I....I...am having a bit of a hard time with this. And I'm afraid that Rev Chris won't love me anymore. Maybe it's that cold. Happy belated birthday, Eb. Jill P.S. Carson's lithograph is really beautiful, though. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:36:44 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > I don't feel that calling me vulgar names really did much to counter > my previous comment. > > Nothing could, in your mind: for some reason you view your opinions > as facts. One set of criteria asserts that a large number of albums are similar to a notoriously unusual album...another set doesn't. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:25:33 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > I don't feel that calling me vulgar names really did much to counter > > my previous comment. > > > > Nothing could, in your mind: for some reason you view your opinions > > as facts. > > One set of criteria asserts that a large number of albums are similar > to a notoriously unusual album...another set doesn't. Well, that's a more civilized response, so I won't CC you this time. But I'd say that the fact that the album in question is unusual makes it that much more likely for its adherents to end up emulating it, consciously or not. C'mon... the guys in Camper, American Music Club, the Replacements and all the bands I mentioned are totally conversant with those Big Star records... that's blatantly obvious. So I don't think its influence is as unlikely or rare as you do, because I think it looms large in the canon for artists of a certain stripe. What other albums would you consider "notoriously unusual"? I don't even want to suggest any titles... I just want to see what you mean by the term. A lot of records that were "unusual" in their time have been replicated to death. And a lot of musicians carry around secret (or not-so-secret) desires to one day make "their" version of/homage to their favorite records. But it's entirely possible that the resonances I hear between any given pair of records is just my own gut feeling, and I'm as okay with that as everyone else should be. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:56:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and simple ideas cannot penetrate my thick skull Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >>> I don't feel that calling me vulgar names really did much to counter >>> my previous comment. >>> >>> Nothing could, in your mind: for some reason you view your opinions >>> as facts. >> >> One set of criteria asserts that a large number of albums are similar >> to a notoriously unusual album...another set doesn't. > > Well, that's a more civilized response, so I won't CC you this time. Ah, OK. I hadn't realized it was me (a.k.a. "prick," "ass," "thick skull") who was being uncivilized. > But I'd say that the fact that the album in question is unusual > makes it > that much more likely for its adherents to end up emulating it, > consciously > or not. C'mon... the guys in Camper, American Music Club, the > Replacements > and all the bands I mentioned are totally conversant with those Big > Star > records... that's blatantly obvious. I wouldn't say that about CVB. > So I don't think its influence is as > unlikely or rare as you do, because I think it looms large in the > canon for > artists of a certain stripe. There's a difference between "influence" or "appreciation," and EMULATION. Eb now rejecting: The Triffids/Born Sandy Devotional ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) From: J Subject: Belltown Ramble What is Belltown Ramble about? I get something new from it every time I listen. Most of his songs are like that for me. Nice lasting power. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:32:51 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: OT Allmusic review: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A4ydqoawarijm Don't know that I agree with Adventure Rocketship sounding like it could be from Underwater Moonlight. But a nice review, that I hope gets RH some sales. -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:38:23 -0700 (PDT) From: J Subject: Re: Quail probably predicted this > (I always interpreted SL as being less about a band falling > apart than about a person falling apart, incidentally.) I always heard that Robyn was going through some sort of breakdown when he recorded Eye. Anyone know about this? It's certainly dark enough. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:43:34 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > > > Ah, OK. I hadn't realized it was me (a.k.a. "prick," "ass," "thick > skull") who was being uncivilized. Of course you hadn't (see "thick skull"). > But I'd say that the fact that the album in question is unusual > > makes it > > that much more likely for its adherents to end up emulating it, > > consciously > > or not. C'mon... the guys in Camper, American Music Club, the > > Replacements > > and all the bands I mentioned are totally conversant with those Big > > Star > > records... that's blatantly obvious. > > I wouldn't say that about CVB. I'd say, given if nothing else the covers they did over the years, that you could safely call them hardcore record geeks. Record geeks know from Big Star. There's an track on "Camper Vantiquities" called " A.C. Cover". Guess who "A.C." is. Admittedly the track was named after a fan's mistaken belief that it was a Chilton cover, but come on. Big Star was up there with the Velvets and the Stooges as touchstones for that whole '80's college rock crowd. > There's a difference between "influence" or "appreciation," and > EMULATION. IS THERE? I WAS UNAWARE. Said it before, I've never heard the Stamey album and I don't doubt that it is as you describe more directly carbon copied from SL than most of the albums I listed. But I think there's definitely a cluster of key records, SL being one of them (although I did mention a few others), that can't help but come to mind when one hears an unravelly, disheveled etc. etc. downbeat record, especially when such albums are made by musicians who would clearly be aware of the antecedents. And no, I don't think that's a reach, and it certainly doesn't merit your condescension. Good god, do I have to fax you my degree or IQ test or *what* to convince you that maybe, just possibly, I am not stupid and there might occasionally be validity to my opinions? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:46:42 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: OT Allmusic review: On 10/3/06, Bri N wrote: > > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A4ydqoawarijm Don't know > that I agree with Adventure Rocketship sounding like it could be from > Underwater Moonlight. But a nice review, that I hope gets RH some sales. > -Nuppy Of course, he doesn't reference OMD in "Belltown"... whether or not the "REM" in the middle of "CLAREMONT" is a direct reference is a fun little thing to ponder. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:49:47 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Belltown Ramble On 10/3/06, J wrote: > > What is Belltown Ramble about? I get something new from it every time I > listen. Most of his songs are like that for me. Nice lasting power. > I love the way it ends, sort of suddenly... it's kind of like this disorienting, Dylanesque experience unfolds, and "you" roll with it, try to figure it out, and how to react, without much to go on and then, improbably, your various reactions turn out to be correct... and that's all there is to it. One of my favorites on the album. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:53:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like > I wouldn't say that about CVB. > > I'd say, given if nothing else the covers they did over the years, > that you could safely call them hardcore record geeks. Record > geeks know from Big Star. Leap o' logic. > There's an track on "Camper Vantiquities" called " A.C. Cover". > Guess who "A.C." is. Admittedly the track was named after a fan's > mistaken belief that it was a Chilton cover, but come on. Big Star > was up there with the Velvets and the Stooges as touchstones for > that whole '80's college rock crowd. Appreciation. Emulation. > And no, I don't think that's a reach, and it certainly doesn't > merit your condescension. Good god, do I have to fax you my degree > or IQ test or *what* to convince you that maybe, just possibly, I > am not stupid and there might occasionally be validity to my opinions? For starters, you could stop writing subject lines which have the emotional age of your kids. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:40:45 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > > For starters, you could stop writing subject lines which have the > emotional age of your kids. Juvenile subject lines are hardly my unique province here. More importantly: Be very, very careful when bringing up people's children, being the creepy sociopath that you are. Parents get upset when unstable, obsessive types like you talk about their kids. We don't take chances. So back off. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:44:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >> For starters, you could stop writing subject lines which have the >> emotional age of your kids. > > Juvenile subject lines are hardly my unique province here. True, and you've seen all the love I've heaped on Eddie about his own efforts. > More importantly: > > Be very, very careful when bringing up people's children, being the > creepy sociopath that you are. Parents get upset when unstable, > obsessive > types like you talk about their kids. We don't take chances. So > back off. Speaking of "creepy".... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:30:38 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like On 10/3/06, Eb wrote: > > Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > >> For starters, you could stop writing subject lines which have the > >> emotional age of your kids. > > > > Juvenile subject lines are hardly my unique province here. > > True, and you've seen all the love I've heaped on Eddie about his own > efforts. > > > More importantly: > > > > Be very, very careful when bringing up people's children, being the > > creepy sociopath that you are. Parents get upset when unstable, > > obsessive > > types like you talk about their kids. We don't take chances. So > > back off. > > Speaking of "creepy".... I'm not fucking kidding. Don't pretend you've never had a restraining order filed against you. You need to learn when to stop, and that time is now. Seek help. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:39:40 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is SER, and here's a reminder of why you all hate me so much On 10/3/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > > Yes, as occurs repeatedly on Key Lime Pie, numerous examples of which I > have > already cited, and the first instance of which you can hear as soon as you > drop the needle on the first track. What is this "needle" of which you speak? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:44:07 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Speaking of "creepy".... > > I'm not fucking kidding. Don't pretend you've never had a > restraining order filed against you. > > You need to learn when to stop, and that time is now. > > Seek help. > > -SER CUC-koo... CUC-koo.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:47:09 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Quail probably predicted this On 10/3/06, J wrote: > > > (I always interpreted SL as being less about a band falling > > apart than about a person falling apart, incidentally.) > > I always heard that Robyn was going through some sort of breakdown when he > recorded Eye. > Do you mean IODOT? Because that's the album I've always heard that about - and it certainly sounds it. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:45:44 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: Bleakest. Book. Ever. (for those not of a literary bent, please skip right on by) I got an email today from a friend in NYC saying that author Robert Anton Wilson is apparently not at all well; month-to-month, physically and financially. As the author of one of my favorite books (_Prometheus Rising_), this makes me sad. With all the world-class morons in the news, it's not like we needed another pointed reminder that they can proliferate while the interesting ones go out destitute and for want of good medical care. Michael Ps. those who haven't read RAW can start with the aforementioned title, or _Email to the Universe_, or _The Illuminatus! Trilogy_, etc. etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:53:01 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: My name is Eb, and yes, God came down from the mountain and defined once and for all what it means for an album to be Sister Lovers-like Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Be very, very careful when bringing up people's children, being the > creepy sociopath that you are. Parents get upset when unstable, obsessive > types like you talk about their kids. We don't take chances. So back off. Note to self: petition state representatives to draft legislation for parenting licenses. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:49:04 -0700 (PDT) From: theodius Subject: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Citgo Note: forwarded message attached. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind" - Dr. Suess - --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. 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Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: = 8/7/2006 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT00006.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 00:11:39 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Warbles & etc. The Fuzzy Warbles box is really nice - and large - about 12 1/2 x 11 inches. There are four compartments to hold the eight regular discs two-up. The clear plastic sleeve that slides over the box has the track listing for all nine discs. And disc 7 has a triple whammy of bubblegum - Candymine, Visit to the Doctor, and Cherry in Your Tree. Here's an Andy interview . - -------------- I have to recommend another manga, this time it's Emma by Kaoru Mori. The U.S. publisher has dropped the Victorian Romance part of the title, but that's just what it is, a romance between the first son of a family from the gentry and a young woman from the working class. With elephants and an Indian prince, of course. The first volume of eight is out this week. - -------------- Did I miss any mention of the new The Mars Volta? - -------------- Anyfeg have personal knowledge of the current 23-inch Apple Cinema Display? The feedback I can find online is all over the place, and mostly over a year old. - - Steve __________ No matter where you go, there you are. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:32:03 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: Bleakest. Book. Ever. - Robert Anton Wilson On 4-Oct-06, at 1:45 AM, michael wells wrote: > > I got an email today from a friend in NYC saying that author Robert > Anton > Wilson is apparently not at all well; month-to-month, physically and > financially. As the author of one of my favorite books (_Prometheus > Rising_), this makes me sad. Yep, a few months ago he started posting personal belongings (1st editions, autographed items) to ebay to help pay for his healthcare. :( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:38:49 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Belltown Ramble Took me a while to get over the tinkly piano riff; reminded me of a bad children's song experience (something from Rolf Harris's Seamus O'Sean years, I think). But now I like it. It would be kind of hard to ramble with one known as 'The Lame', but maybe that's the point. I like Ole! Tarantula a lot, but as you know, I'm never one for the track by track analyses. I'm just struck by how many of the opening riffs sound like Egyptians opening riffs. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:55:16 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Citgo theodius wrote: > > Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue > here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the > government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal! I may not particularly like him, but he was democratically elected, and there's an effective opposition, so he cannot accurately be called a dictator. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #231 ********************************