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fegmaniax-digest      Friday, September 29 2006      Volume 15 : Number 227



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  ["Stacked Crooked" <tews@drizz]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [Capuchin <capuchin@bitmin]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  ["Stewart C. Russell" <scr]
  RE: what a strange newsday  ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobo]
  the independant previews ole tarantula          [wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [The Great Quail <quail@li]
  Mike Patton is not God                          [J <j.blueberry@yahoo.com>]
  RE: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  ["Bachman, Michael" <Micha]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [FSThomas <fsthomas@ochrem]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [Eb <ElBroome@earthlink.ne]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  ["Spotted Eagle Ray" <spot]
  hiro ballroom on-sale!                          [wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>]
  13 from 10                                     [Tom Clark <tclark@mac.com>]
  Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"  [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.]
  NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe      [wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>]
  Re: 13 from 10                        ["" <lazerlove5@buckeye-express.com>]
  Re: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe  [wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>]
  Re: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe  [wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>]
  One month to go ...     [Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de>]

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:20:04 -0700
From: "Stacked Crooked" <tews@drizzle.com>
Subject: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

<Someone (I forget who) in the recent flurry of posts said that the whole
key to its quality>

somebody gonna upload this to usenet already?  i must say that, having just
deleted a UK minus 3 show that was somewhat-recently seeded at dime, my
hopes aren't too high.


<Very well put Rex. So what would be a good mix of all those scattered
songs... I mean if you were to put 13 songs together and release them as an
album.>

i think the *Jewels* and *Nextdoorland* sessions are fine.  even if there
are a few songs per that you don't like, you can just assign all the songs
you *do* like to the same album when tagging the mp3s, and you're ready to
go.

*Robyn Sings* is a waste of time: just get hold of a copy of the entire
show, and you're ready to go.

so, my greatest hits compilation from *Luxor* and *Spooked* would be:

"Idonia"
"Full Moon In My Soul"


<Joseph Arthur-Nuclear Daydream...can't say much here beyond "ehh." :)
Just not distinctive enough.>

haven't heard the new one yet.  but you may want to hold on to it and
re-visit it in a few months' time.  that's what i did with *Our Shadows
Will Remain*, and was pretty blown away in coming back to it after having
let it settle for several months.

he's playing your town on jeme's (and my mom's, and the northridge
earthquake's) birthday.


finally heard *Living With War* to-day, and think it's really great.
easily his best since *Sleeps With Angels*...maybe even since *Freedom*.  i
had assumed it would be a solo-acoustic record, being that crazy horse
weren't billed.


if you like the punk rock, you may want to do yourself the favour of being
the third person to download
<URL:http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=113686>.  thee
emergency just might end up being the next-big-seattle-thing.



KEN "The need for penile amputation could probably have been avoided" THE
KENSTER

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:58:04 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

On 9/27/06, Stacked Crooked <tews@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>
> he's playing your town on jeme's (and my mom's, and the northridge
> earthquake's) birthday.


Man that confluence suggests something deeply scary and unwholesome...

Oh, sorry: thought you said "Eb's mom's birthday."

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:21:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Capuchin <capuchin@bitmine.net>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Stacked Crooked wrote:
> he's playing your town on jeme's (and my mom's, and the northridge 
> earthquake's) birthday.

The Decemberists are playing my (and their) town on my (and your mom's and 
the northridge earthquake's) birthday.  And near as I can tell, I'll be on 
the list plus one.

J.
- -- 
_______________________________________________

Capuchin   capuchin@bitmine.net   Jeme A Brelin
_______________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:07:27 -0400
From: "Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

Capuchin wrote:
> 
> The Decemberists are playing my (and their) town on my (and your mom's 
> and the northridge earthquake's) birthday.

They've gone awfully corporate. Just plunged for 3 tickets for their 
Toronto show, and it came out at around $25 a pop. First show I saw them 
was $6 each. Guess they've got to keep their major label record execs in 
nose powder these days.

  Stewart

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:53:50 -0400
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: what a strange newsday

Michael Wells wrote:

>Skimming the headlines, I thought at first that a guy who impersonated
>the writer of "Polka Dot Bikini" had tried to murder Terrell Owens. And
>then there's the big p.r. push to make Condi Rice look human, 

Isn't she permanently stained as another Bush administration liar at this
point? The way she tried to defend Bush's first 8 months in office by saying Bush
did everything he could to stop Bin Laden and 9/11 the other day was a flat out lie. 
She presented no evidence to support her claim. I love the way Keith Olbermann
on CNBC's Countdown is channeling the spirit of Edward R. Murrow in his pursuit
of the lies and misdeeds coming from Bush and company. He is even apdopting Murrow's
"Good Night and Good Luck" sign off to end the program. Rock on Keith!!!

Michael B.

NP Roberta Gambarini - Easy To Love

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:06:50 -0400
From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: the independant previews ole tarantula

<url: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article1769562.ece >

   An exclusive preview of next month's album releases

   By Andy Gill
   Published: 28 September 2006 

   [...]

   Artist: Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3
   Title: Oli! Tarantula
   Label: Proper

   Robyn Hitchcock sounds more than ever like his hero Syd Barrett on
   this latest album, recorded in Seattle with his chums Peter Buck and
   the R.E.M. auxiliary of bassist Scott McCaughey and drummer Bill
   Rieflin. Indeed, the opening psych-rock wig-out "Adventure Rocket
   Ship" sounds like the Floyd might have if Syd had written the
   space-rock songs rather than Roger Waters. The rising melodic hook of
   "Red Locust Frenzy" recalls Tim Buckley; and the warm horns on "Museum
   Of Sex" have an engaging Memphis soul character - all of which
   illustrates the problem Hitchcock has in transcending his influences.
   But there is recompense here in the poppy, epiphanic "'Cause It's Love
   (Saint Parallelogram)", which may yet furnish him with the hit he
   deserves.

   3/5 stars

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:26:13 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

On 9/28/06, Stewart C. Russell <scruss@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Capuchin wrote:
> >
> > The Decemberists are playing my (and their) town on my (and your mom's
> > and the northridge earthquake's) birthday.
>
> They've gone awfully corporate. Just plunged for 3 tickets for their
> Toronto show, and it came out at around $25 a pop. First show I saw them
> was $6 each. Guess they've got to keep their major label record execs in
> nose powder these days.


How much control do you think bands have over what their shows cost? If a
band is more popular, promoters and venue operators are going to try to
charge more.

Given that bands who play shows for $6 can barely afford ramen noodles
(especially when there are five, six people in the band), I'd think you'd be
happy they're approximately making a living.

Of course, that assumes the money is going to the band - and not to
Ticketbastard, etc.

I just hate it when people reflexively blame the band for higher ticket
prices - when really, they're low in the food chain. If bands set prices,
they'd charge higher ones early on (enough so they could make a living). U2
could afford to play anywhere in the world for free from now on,
probably...your local bar band can't.

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:02:39 -0400
From: The Great Quail <quail@libyrinth.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

> They've gone awfully corporate. Just plunged for 3 tickets for their
> Toronto show, and it came out at around $25 a pop. First show I saw them
> was $6 each. Guess they've got to keep their major label record execs in
> nose powder these days.

Or maybe they actually want to make a decent living creating great music?
Come on, you can easily drop $25 on dinner and a movie.

Why is everyone so willing to cry "sell out" the second a band actually
starts becoming self sufficient? I mean, sure a lot of the money goes to
other sources, especially when a band gets big enough to necessitate playing
a larger venue. But $25/ticket is hardly the Rolling Stones, or "awfully
corporate." 

- --The Great "Fugazi feel free to raise your ticket prices" Quail

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: J <j.blueberry@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mike Patton is not God

Wow, not even Mike Patton could come up with something
this offensive.  Well, at least I'll have something to
talk about with my mom at Christmas.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=inQlkhZr0ec
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:17:11 -0400
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

>> They've gone awfully corporate. Just plunged for 3 tickets for their
>> Toronto show, and it came out at around $25 a pop. First show I saw them
>> was $6 each. Guess they've got to keep their major label record execs in
>> nose powder these days.

TGQ:
>Or maybe they actually want to make a decent living creating great music?
>Come on, you can easily drop $25 on dinner and a movie.

>Why is everyone so willing to cry "sell out" the second a band actually
>starts becoming self sufficient? I mean, sure a lot of the money goes to
>other sources, especially when a band gets big enough to necessitate playing
>a larger venue. But $25/ticket is hardly the Rolling Stones, or "awfully
>corporate." 

We can always point to The Eagles as being the first to jack up ticket prices.
Another reason to despise them besides their music.

Striesand had to cancel her concert at The Palace of Auburn Hills due to low
ticket sales response. Maybe the reason was the $750.00 price for the best seats.
Not sure what nose bleeders were going for.

Michael B.

NP Donovan - Mellow Yellow

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:34:03 -0400
From: FSThomas <fsthomas@ochremedia.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

Bachman, Michael wrote:

> Striesand had to cancel her concert at The Palace of Auburn Hills due to low
> ticket sales response. Maybe the reason was the $750.00 price for the best seats.
> Not sure what nose bleeders were going for.

The simple answer to that question would be "anything is too much."

I'm on the fence over how much I would have to be paid to see her in
concert.  Especially if she wore something remotely like this:
http://tinyurl.com/kxjhv (from the article http://tinyurl.com/zwmzt)

- -f.

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:53:08 -0700
From: Eb <ElBroome@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

FSThomas wrote:
> I'm on the fence over how much I would have to be paid to see her in
> concert.  Especially if she wore something remotely like this:
> http://tinyurl.com/kxjhv (from the article http://tinyurl.com/zwmzt)

Oppressive. ;)

Eb

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:21:28 -0700
From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

On 9/27/06, Stacked Crooked <tews@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>
> i think the *Jewels* and *Nextdoorland* sessions are fine.


Still don't dig "Jewels"... I was sort of surprised upon glancing at the
tracklists that I really like a greater perscentage of the songs and
performances that wound up on "Bram" than "Jewels".  But I'd still take
"Spooked" over that whole era.


> even if there
> are a few songs per that you don't like, you can just assign all the songs
> you *do* like to the same album when tagging the mp3s, and you're ready to
> go.


That's a totally viable modern approach, just a little too modern for me.
Actually, I feel relatively fine about doing that kind of thing for records
by artists I haven't gotten off the fence on yet, or ones that I long ago
decided were only good for a song here or there, but for they musicians I
really follow, I'm not much for on-the-fly resequencing.  Maybe I should
be.

On the same tip, just now listening to Obliteration Pie for the first time.
One of the odder odds 'n' sods comps Robyn has put out.  It looks like the
most informative text in the booklet, presumably session notes under the
headings "Tuscon in 2003", "Seattle in 2002", etc, are almost entirely in
Japanese.  The little Japanese-language spine-condom thing features English
text in the form of the words "Oak Tree Records" and the letters "R.E.M.".
I might just now be coming to the good part of the record: Robyn and
Kimberly tearing up "Funkytown".  Some other good stuff, but fairly
perplexing.

I guess that the font that debuted with Spooked is now the "official" RH
font, replacing his handwriting... it's on OP and OT as well.  And in any
and all RH art design, green is the new green.  Still.

- -SER

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:26:01 -0400
From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: hiro ballroom on-sale!

http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=696333

   WALTERWORLDWIDE & THE BOWERY PRESENTS
   presents
   Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3
   at Hiro Ballroom
   21 AND OVER WITH A GOVERNMENT ISSUED PHOTO ID - OPENERS SUBJECT TO
   CHANGE
   Friday, November 17 (7:00 PM doors)
   U.S.$22.00

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:10:06 -0700
From: Tom Clark <tclark@mac.com>
Subject: 13 from 10

My 1996-2006 RH album.  No Soft Boys, no covers.  Not necessarily my  
favorite tracks, but they seem to fit together well.  Whip this  
playlist together and try it for yourself!

1. Adventure Rocket Ship (Best opening track since "If You Were A  
Priest", and surprisingly similar)
2. The Cheese Alarm
3. No, I Don't Remember Guildford
4. 1974 (I don't usually listen with headphones, so I really just  
noticed the nice guitar work in the right channel)
5. I Am Not Me
6. We're Gonna Live In The Trees
7. Alright, Yeah
8. Judas Sings (Jesus & Me)
9. 'Cause It's Love (Saint Parallelogram)
10. Full Moon In My Soul
11. Sinister But She Was Happy
12. I Saw Nick Drake
13. The Authority Box

- -tc

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:10:20 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fairport Convention -- "Meet On The Ledge"

On 9/28/06, Spotted Eagle Ray <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I guess that the font that debuted with Spooked is now the "official" RH
> font, replacing his handwriting... it's on OP and OT as well.  And in any
> and all RH art design, green is the new green.  Still.


Don't forget that old-fashioned, worn-type face that he's used on text for
years...I'm not sure which actual font it is, but I've got a couple that are
similar.

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:31:52 -0400
From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=114297&hit=1

- ----- Forwarded message from DIME <dime-bot@dimeadozen.org> -----

A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME.

Torrent: 114297
Title: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe
Size: 82.13 MB
Category: Rock
Uploaded by: Pike1957

Description
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe
Broadcast on 6 Music - Wed 27 Sep - 10:00
Freeview>MD>CDR>Audacity (normalize & track splits)>FLAC

01. Chat
02. Museum Of Sex
03. Chat
04. Ole Tarantula
05. Chat

Ruby Wright - Musical Saw
Colin Izod - Saxaphones
Robyn Hitchcock - Lead Vocal & Guitar
Morris Windsor - Percussion
Michelle & Subr - Vocals
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:59:16 -0700
From: "" <lazerlove5@buckeye-express.com>
Subject: Re: 13 from 10

My 1996-2006 RH album.  No Soft Boys, no covers.  Not necessarily my  
favorite tracks, but they seem to fit together well.  Whip this  
playlist together and try it for yourself!

1. Adventure Rocket Ship (Best opening track since "If You Were A  
Priest", and surprisingly similar)
2. The Cheese Alarm
3. No, I Don't Remember Guildford
4. 1974 (I don't usually listen with headphones, so I really just  
noticed the nice guitar work in the right channel)
5. I Am Not Me
6. We're Gonna Live In The Trees
7. Alright, Yeah
8. Judas Sings (Jesus & Me)
9. 'Cause It's Love (Saint Parallelogram)
10. Full Moon In My Soul
11. Sinister But She Was Happy
12. I Saw Nick Drake
13. The Authority Box

- -tc

That's a good list Tom! I might replace Cheese Alarm with Nasa Clapping and I Am Not Me with Heliotrope and maybe Judas Sings with something else... Still all great choices and I'd be happy with an album like this. Hey, maybe you should get on the committee that does RH comps. 

Who said OT is the best R.E.M. album in years? I agree. 
'Cause It's Love (Saint Parallelogram) is my current favorite too.

- -Nuppy

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:27:05 -0400
From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe

one time at band camp, ckocher@stny.rr.com (ckocher@stny.rr.com) said:

>I'll have to download this and see if he's in the same chatty mood...

listening to it now and it was rather chatty. one newsy thing he
mentioned:  another medicins sans frontieres benefit gig on december
17th at the three kings. only 95 tickets will be sold, sale date yet to
be determined.

robyn and company will be playing the entirety of (drum roll please)
_piper at the gates of dawn_ along with some solo syd stuff.

whoa.

you can listen to the session in glorious realaudio at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/6music_aod.shtml?6music/6m_gideon_wed

direct link to the archive for those having problems with the realaudio
plug-in or the embedded player is

radio/aod/shows/rpms/6music/6m_gideon_wed.rpm

the session starts at 1:41:30. (11:41am for those using the embedded
player.)

woj

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:30:35 -0400
From: wojbearpig <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock on Gideon Coe

one time at band camp, wojbearpig (woj@smoe.org) said:

>direct link to the archive for those having problems with the realaudio
>plug-in or the embedded player is

>radio/aod/shows/rpms/6music/6m_gideon_wed.rpm

er, that is:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/6music/6m_gideon_wed.rpm

sorry for the additional spammerific note.

woj

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:31:46 +0200
From: Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de>
Subject: One month to go ...

Sigh, I suppose I should be happy that it's released at all, but I have to 
wait until October 27 for the domestic release of Ole Tarantula :-(

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