From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #216 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 19 2006 Volume 15 : Number 216 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon ["Stewart C. Russell"] f*** [Jill Brand ] Re: f*** [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: f*** [Jeff Dwarf ] janice long session [wojbearpig ] DIME : Torrent #112574 Robyn Hitchcock Solo Washington DC 1995.03.28 [H] RE: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon ["Bachman, Michael" <] Re: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon [Sebastian Hagedorn <] RE: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: the case for Neko ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Fucknolia [The Great Quail ] Re: Fucknolia [Eb ] Re: Fucknolia [2fs ] RV's in the news ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: RV's in the news [2fs ] Re: f*** [Capuchin ] RE: f*** ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: f*** [Tom Clark ] Re: f*** [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: f*** [Capuchin ] Tech-geek stuff [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:49:42 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon Eb wrote: > > I didn't have any problem with "Neon Lights" -- you call that cheesy, > but not "The Robots"? Oh hell yes, but The Robots is the right kind of cheesy. It's the Sparky's Magic Piano voice on Neon Lights that cracks me up. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: f*** Chasing Amy wasn't on that list. I seem to remember thinking that the language in that movie was amongst the foulest that I've heard. Any thoughts from others? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: f*** Jill Brand wrote: > Chasing Amy wasn't on that list. I seem to remember > thinking that the language in that movie was > amongst the foulest that I've heard. Any > thoughts from others? For a romantic comedy, yeah, they say fuck a lot. For a Kevin Smith film, not even fucking close. . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: f*** Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Jill Brand wrote: > > Chasing Amy wasn't on that list. I seem to > remember > > thinking that the language in that movie was > > amongst the foulest that I've heard. Any > > thoughts from others? > > For a romantic comedy, yeah, they say fuck a lot. > For a Kevin Smith film, not even fucking close. I just went back and looked again, and Chasing Amy is on the list with 118. Only Jay and Silent Bob have more of Kevin Smith movies, which stuns me. I would have sworn that Dogma (which made the list with 106) and both Clerks had more. Maybe they all just more overall vulgarity but with fewer fucks. . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:47:30 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: janice long session remember that session robyn and the minus 3 did on janice long's radio 2 program(me) back in july? yeah, me neither, until today. forgot i had recorded the realaudio archive of the session. stumbled across it today, so i transcoded it from realaudio to mp3 today and uploaded for all'y'all. the realaudio file is there as well if you don't want to download extra bytes for the convienence of not installing realplayer. http://fegmania.org/audio/rh2006-07-25-bbcradio2-janicelong/ Robyn Hitchcock and The Minus 3 2006-07-25 Radio 2 Janice Long Session 01. intro 02. Ole Tarantula 03. interview 04. N.Y. Doll 05. interview 06. Cigarettes Coffee and Booze 07. interview 08. If You Were A Priest 09. outro sound quality is dodgy because of the source, so if anyone happened to record this off-air, speak up! woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:53:29 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: DIME : Torrent #112574 Robyn Hitchcock Solo Washington DC 1995.03.28 _http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=112574_ (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=112574) This is a solo Robyn Hitchcock show with accompaniment from Deni Bonet on a few tracks. This was recorded at the (old) 9:30 Club in DC; I'm 95% sure it was on 1995.03.28, but I'm relying on an old ticket stub for the date as I didn't label the tape at the time. It was the first of a two-night stand in DC. A quick search online didn't turn up anything to make me think the date is wrong (I was at a similar show in late December that year, but I certainly remember not taping that gig, so I think I'm correct). However, let me know if you can prove otherwise. I trimmed a little bit of the between song guitar tuning to fit the gig on one CD (don't be confused by the "d01" label in the track titles; there is no disk 2). However, all the songs and RobynStories are in tact. The Good: This is a decent audience recording. Minus a few silly comments here and there, the crowd is very respectful and quiet during the songs (I guess everyone was shipped in from a different city...). Personal opinion, I think this is a great set list. The Bad: At the very end of the gig I realized I was standing underneath a big fan for the entire show. While it would explain why I was comfortably cool throughout the event, it created a low hum throughout the recording. It is most noticeable during the speaking moments, and was pretty much why I tossed the unlabeled tape in a box for 11+ years. Nonetheless, it isn't as distracting as the description might sound (I made a few attempts at gating the noise but came up with nothing I was happy with...I find as long as it isn't played on a system/with headphones that over-hype the bass, it is okay). There is also a slight amount of phasing during The Yip! Song/Not Me. The linage: Maxell XLII90 cassette from a Panasonic portable tape recorder w/ external mic master, Soundforge, Flac l8. The Set list: 1. Satellite 2. Balloon Man 3. Alright, Yeah 4. Man With a Woman's Shadow 5. De Chirico Street 6. Egyptian Cream 7. Sinister But She Was Happy 8. Glass Hotel 9. Queen Elvis 10. Direct Me to the Cheese 11. Element of Light 12. The Yip! Song 13. I Am Not Me 14. You and Oblivion 15. Never Stop Bleeding 16. Arms of Love 17. Only the Stones Remain 18. I Got a Message For You 19. Statue with a Walkman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:39:28 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon Eb wote: >John Coltrane-One Down, One Up: Live at the Half Note A great double disc! A couple of drop-outs, but the performance more than makes up for it. Maybe not as necessary as the Monk/Coltrane Carnegie Hall disc from last year for the casual fan, but a must for any true jazz fan. >Laura Nyro-Eli & the 13th Confession Picked this up last year, well worth it. Barb from BC is a big fan. >Neko Case-Fox Confessor Brings the Flood Will be in my Top 10 for 2006. >Rain Tree Crow-Rain Tree Crow I have the original version from 1990. I heard it's been remastered. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:47:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon - --On 16. September 2006 16:19:19 -0700 Eb wrote: > Stewart C. Russell wrote: >>> Kraftwerk-Radio-Activity >>> Kraftwerk-The Man Machine >> >> Radio-Activity is my favourite Kraftwerk album, but it's probably >> too slow for most folks. Man Machine is ruined by the appallingly >> cheesy "Neon Lights". > > I've decided that I just do not enjoy Kraftwerk. They're a near-miss, > but a miss all the same. You are weird! > I didn't have any problem with "Neon Lights" -- you call that cheesy, > but not "The Robots"? How is that "cheesy"? OK, I was 9 when I first heard it, and I might feel differently if I heard it for the first time today, but still ... Anyway, if you don't like *that* phase you should still check out Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2. KlingKlang is one of their greatest pieces. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:19:38 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Another batch of albums for you to comment upon Michael Bachman wrote: > >Neko Case-Fox Confessor Brings the Flood > Will be in my Top 10 for 2006. I couldn't agree more. This is a really good album. I'm not as confident as Michael about my top 10 with three months remaining in the year, but if enough excellent discs come out to push it down than this will be about as exceptional a year for music releases as I've seen since about 1992. I'm not sure the best way to describe Case, but to me she has a voice similar to Chan Marshall of Cat Power, but far more confident, so she could probably sneeze for 45 minutes and I'd get some enjoyment out of the album. She doesn't sneeze at all on this one, though. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:59:12 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: the case for Neko Neko's voice has always been goosebump-worthy; what surprised me most about this album is how cerebral and deep she's become as a songwriter. I can't think of very many writers coming from a viewpoint as abstracted and yet still so emotionally real -- maybe Richard Buckner. This is an exceptional album. At 09:19 AM 9/18/2006, Marc Alberts wrote: >Michael Bachman wrote: > > >Neko Case-Fox Confessor Brings the Flood > > Will be in my Top 10 for 2006. > >I couldn't agree more. This is a really good album. I'm not as confident >as Michael about my top 10 with three months remaining in the year, but if >enough excellent discs come out to push it down than this will be about as >exceptional a year for music releases as I've seen since about 1992. I'm >not sure the best way to describe Case, but to me she has a voice similar to >Chan Marshall of Cat Power, but far more confident, so she could probably >sneeze for 45 minutes and I'd get some enjoyment out of the album. She >doesn't sneeze at all on this one, though. > >Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:25:40 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: the case for Neko On 9/18/06, Dolph Chaney wrote: > > Neko's voice has always been goosebump-worthy; what surprised me most > about > this album is how cerebral and deep she's become as a songwriter. I can't > think of very many writers coming from a viewpoint as abstracted and yet > still so emotionally real -- I can think of a few, but *very* few. And she also taps into that roots-spook thing (the place from whence come the surviving mountain tunes that don't make no sense), and I think that's what holds it all together. For my money, she nailed it to the wall on Blacklisted, and this record continues in that vein. Others seem to view this one as the quantum leap forward. Either way, a fine album; incedible considering that until relatively recently she did mostly covers and didn't really consider herself much of a writer at all. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap Patricia Kennedy Lawford http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1378382006 . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:38:17 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Fucknolia > Huh. I wouldn't have recalled "Magnolia" being that fuck-heavy. I > guess Tom Cruise's character must have supplied a lot of that verbiage. If I recall correctly, it was actually Julianne Moore. Remember the scene in the lawyer's office? "Shut the fuck up!" over and over again. Best part of the movie, I thought. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:58:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fucknolia Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> I've decided that I just do not enjoy Kraftwerk. They're a near-miss, >> but a miss all the same. > > You are weird! Maybe it's a regional thing. ;) >> I didn't have any problem with "Neon Lights" -- you call that cheesy, >> but not "The Robots"? > > How is that "cheesy"? The lyric...the vocal mix.... > Anyway, if you don't like *that* phase you should still check out > Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2. KlingKlang is one of their greatest > pieces. I heard a couple of tracks off Kraftwerk 2...just OK for me. Also heard "Ralf & Florian." Their early stuff has sort of a tossed-off, indifferent feel which doesn't grab me. It's almost like they're "warming up" for the REAL recording session later in the day. A bit too unstructured. The Great Quail wrote: >> Huh. I wouldn't have recalled "Magnolia" being that fuck-heavy. I >> guess Tom Cruise's character must have supplied a lot of that >> verbiage. > > If I recall correctly, it was actually Julianne Moore. Remember the > scene in > the lawyer's office? "Shut the fuck up!" over and over again. Best > part of > the movie, I thought. I actually DON'T remember that, at the moment. I do remember the landmark "You fucking fucks" rant in the pharmacy, though. My birthday is coming up fast, Q....I hope there aren't too many people bugging you for my wish-list URL. As that Hallmark commercial goes, "Say it with secondhand CDs." ;) Against all odds, my widowed mother now has a boyfriend. This is a pretty weird development to get my head around. Eb np: Jaco Pastorius/The Birthday Concert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:41:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fucknolia On 9/18/06, Eb wrote: > > > >> I didn't have any problem with "Neon Lights" -- you call that cheesy, > >> but not "The Robots"? > > > > How is that "cheesy"? > > The lyric...the vocal mix... I suppose...but evaluating Kraftwerk on lyrics and vocals is kinda like evaluating Frank Sinatra based on his records' drumming: yeah, it's there (sometimes) but it's hardly what the music's primarily about. Against all odds, my widowed mother now has a boyfriend. This is a > pretty weird development to get my head around. "Against all odds"? It'd be harder, I'm sure, if he was Phil Collins. (Sorry to put *that* earworm in people's heads...) BTW: I wonder if the top movie's Fuck Ratio is higher than Isaac Brock's in this feature: . - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:34:11 -0400 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RV's in the news Glenn Tilbrook: http://tinyurl.com/zdj8d Willie Nelson: http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/18/willie.busted.ap/index.htm l ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:37:21 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: RV's in the news On 9/18/06, Brian Nupp wrote: Willie Nelson: > http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/18/willie.busted.ap/index.html Willie Nelson? Smoking pot? Say it ain't so! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: f*** On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Jill Brand wrote: > Chasing Amy wasn't on that list. I seem to remember thinking that the > language in that movie was amongst the foulest that I've heard. Any > thoughts from others? Seems like an average episode of Deadwood to me. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:09:51 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: f*** On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Jill Brand wrote: >> Chasing Amy wasn't on that list. I seem to remember thinking that the >> language in that movie was amongst the foulest that I've heard. Any >> thoughts from others? Capuchin came back with: >Seems like an average episode of Deadwood to me. I was totally shocked when I rented the first disc from season 1 last year. I could only say to myself this c********r sure has a lot f***s in the script. We've come a long way sine the MC5 and Jefferson Airplane would yell or sing one MF in a song. That doesn't even hit the average of two per sentence from the mouth of Deadwood's Al Swearingen. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:54:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: f*** On Sep 18, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > Capuchin came back with: >> Seems like an average episode of Deadwood to me. > > I was totally shocked when I rented the first disc from season 1 > last year. > I could only say to myself this c********r sure has a lot f***s in the > script. We've come a long way sine the MC5 and Jefferson Airplane > would yell > or sing one MF in a song. That doesn't even hit the average of two > per sentence > from the mouth of Deadwood's Al Swearingen. The language in that show is nothing short of beautiful. The mixture of proper English and outright filth is absolutely enthralling. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:09:26 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: f*** - -- Tom Clark is rumored to have mumbled on 18. September 2006 14:54:53 -0700 regarding Re: f***: >> I was totally shocked when I rented the first disc from season 1 >> last year. >> I could only say to myself this c********r sure has a lot f***s in the >> script. We've come a long way sine the MC5 and Jefferson Airplane >> would yell >> or sing one MF in a song. That doesn't even hit the average of two >> per sentence >> from the mouth of Deadwood's Al Swearingen. > > The language in that show is nothing short of beautiful. The mixture of > proper English and outright filth is absolutely enthralling. Yup, Deadwood and The Wire are my favorite shows. I've managed to convince a few friends to also watch Deadwood now (and it's out on DVD here as well, although I shudder to think what the dubbed version must be like), but The Wire has been the bane of even those of my friends who also studied English :-) I have to admit that I watch it with headphones on (it's much easier to understand that way) and even then I don't understand *everything*. But it's enough ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: f*** On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Tom Clark wrote: > The language in that show is nothing short of beautiful. The mixture of > proper English and outright filth is absolutely enthralling. I agree. Someone tried to convince me to watch the show because "the profanity is incredible" and I dismissed it as juvenile in its prurience. Then I watched the show and found the intricate interweaving of metaphor and poetic prose is just beautiful and captivating. [Al suggests he might send Dan out of town to hire guns for a coming battle.] Dan: I'd prefer, if you're going to send me to Bismark, to go before the darkness sets in. Al: If I do order you to Bismark, it means the darkness is already well fucking upon us. Man, that's awesome. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:35:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Tech-geek stuff Anyone -- Tom, or otherwise -- have anything to say about iTunes 7.0? I don't have any complaints about it, but then again...I don't use it to its full capacity (basically, I just use it to organize mp3s and listen to soundclips). I understand there is quite a lot of uproar about various flaws with it, but I haven't researched enough to see exactly what the gripes are. Eb np: Studio 60 ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #216 ********************************