From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #180 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 2 2006 Volume 15 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Random film geekery [wojbearpig ] speculate broadcaster [wojbearpig ] Re: random interpretive dance crimes against nature ["Gene Hopstetter Jr.] RE: Random film geekery ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] Re: Random film geekery [2fs ] Random film stingery [The Great Quail ] Attn: Rex Broome [2fs ] Re: Random RHCP geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Son of Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Attn: Rex Broome ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Son of Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] Re: Random film geekery [2fs ] Re: Random film geekery [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Son of Random film geekery [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Son of Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] Re: Random film geekery [Tom Clark ] Re: Son of Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Random film geekery [Eb ] Re: Random film geekery ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Son of Random film geekery [2fs ] Re: Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] reap (of special note to Eddie) [Eb ] Re: Random RHCP geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:08:51 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: Random film geekery one time at band camp, Steve Schiavo (steveschiavo@mac.com) said: >On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:57 PM, The Great Quail wrote: >>Gwen Stefani -- bit only for her boobs ...and when her hair was dyed pink. >Freudian slip? i believe the great quail tends towards jungian jaunts more than freudian slips. +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:17:02 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: speculate broadcaster oh, the spam that the feg owner address has been receiving lately has become more literate than ever, in its senders' efforts to fool filters and such. in fact, it's becoming downright hitchcockian in nature at times...perhaps robyn could compose diversionary texts for them if the music thing never takes off for him. woj - ----- Forwarded message from Elisabeth Hurley ----- From: "Elisabeth Hurley" To: Subject: speculate broadcaster Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:20:20 -0400 Two days later this same performance was gone through underexactly similar circumstances. 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I trust that we are not too late, said he. - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:47:57 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: random interpretive dance crimes against nature > From: 2fs [... damned if I remember who is out-snarking whom at this point in the thread ...] > He's lying. I've seen him order food at an Argentinian restaurant > using only > a combination of interpretive dance and mime. Well, I sure hope he wasn't ordering the matambre -- a cold, stuffed meat roll. The mind shudders. I just hope I don't remember this the next time I dine with my Argentinian friends. They always make me drink too much wine, and who knows what that could lead to. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:10:31 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Random film geekery Quail: > Mel Gibson was never a liberal, and is hardly the paragon of Hollywood politics. Don't forget...he OWNS Malibu! SS: > Freudian slip? I think Gwen would have had her way with Mr. Freud. She can have her way with me, come to think of it - especially with her hair up ("you've been a naughty little Robyn fan" [whip] etc...). Grrrrrrowwwwwl! +w: > i believe the great quail tends towards jungian jaunts more than freudian slips. It certainly seems that way, extroverted list persona that he is. Lacanian lapses, perhaps? +w: > Two days later this same performance was gone through underexactly similar circumstances. I think those are Sting liner notes, no? Somebody should look in on him and see if he's still relevant. Michael "I hear he's in L.A., working on new album" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:14:25 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Random film geekery Brian writes, > Naw, Rex brings the funny as well as you do, maybe less so when you rile > 'im. Well, to each his own as far as finding various things humorous. But I am not necessarily talking about being funny, but possessing the ability to recognize humor in its various forms, as well as the ability to laugh at one's self and to not take things so damn personally and so seriously. Not only that, if you read my first post, I also declared New York City worthy of doom as well. I don't see any New York Fegs up in arms! (And if they are, they should watch "Rent.") It was just Rex, who has nothing better to do than lecture me about his immigrant janitor. > You know that "humorless" is just about impossible to defend against > ("I do too have a sense of humor you vicious fuck!"). This is a good point. But nevertheless, I have found Rex to be particularly humorless and thin-skinned. He knows this, so I can only assume he wanted to start something when he decided to walk in front of my speeding rant dressed like a school marm. >Plus, it's a blanket > shield, innit? Someone takes exception to something you say and you call > them humorless No, I do not -- sometimes I call them misguided, shrill, hysterical, a knee-jerk liberal, a dirty Naderite, hypocritical, arrogant, or whatever. Sometimes, I even listen to them and admit their point. And on occasion, I have even recanted in public. I only use "humorless" for those who are, essentially, humorless. Like with my rants on "Crash" and Rex's overwrought responses. Come on, this is a Robyn Hitchcock List, not a Mary Daly seminar. What a drag it can be at times! > -- pretty much the same tactic as preceding your insults of > others with a string of (humorous?) self-deprecation. No, I really do think that I am a pretentious blowhard. And I was rather offended that Rex -- who seems to be stuck in the "I'm rubber you're glue" school of arguing -- couldn't even be bothered to come up with his own insults. Oh, no, wait -- he did call me "stupid" twice. I suppose that's something. > You'd make a fucking > great President of the US, I'll give you that. It's about time that someone recognized that. My first move will be to build a giant catapult, which I will use to launch Wilkes-Barre at the greater Los Angeles Metropolitan area. And then, I will make Carl Palmer my Secretary of State. After that, I will reverse a few hundred years of history and colonize Great Britain. Don't worry, Brian, I'll make sure you get a nice job selling fish and chips at Hawkwind shows when I open up Stonehenge as the world's most awesome rock and roll venue. - --President Q PS: Hey, I also like identifying myself with a capital initial, too! Just like.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:26:55 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/2/06, Michael Wells wrote: > > > I think those are Sting liner notes, no? Somebody should look in on him > and see if he's still relevant. > Some nasty rumors have it that Sting was murdered in a devilish rite, and his blood is now mixed in with the mortar of every new Starbucks. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:48:17 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Random film stingery > Some nasty rumors have it that Sting was murdered in a devilish rite, and > his blood is now mixed in with the mortar of every new Starbucks. At least he's being productive and vaguely interesting again. Hey, if we can get the cultists to fixate on Dennis Miller, I'd be all for the construction of a few thousand more Starbucks.... - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:21:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Attn: Rex Broome Rex, I do not like your hair. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:26:01 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random RHCP geekery On 8/1/06, Eb wrote: > > Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > It's not really necessary for me to list fifty or sixty LA rock > > albums which > > are better than anything by the Chili Peppers, is it? > > No, since it was probably obvious to EVERYONE but you that Quail was > kidding about RHCP and Ice Cube being all that LA music has to offer. Woulda thought so, but then he reaffirmed it. "Obvious to EVERYONE except for me"... if I didn't know better, I'd think maybe you actually believe I'm not all that bright. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:31:42 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Son of Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > Jeff writes, > > >> My problem with "Crash" is that it is humorless, pedantic, witless and > >> patronizing. Kind of like your reply to my rant. > > > > > > Well it's good that you recognize that about yourself. > > > > Oops - transposed the "my" and "your" in your last sentence. > > Oh boy. Look, Rex can't help himself, I know that, and I probably > shouldn't > pick on him, no matter how inane his comments. I never quite get this bugaboo of Quail's and Eb's, that I "can't help myself" or whatever. Quail, your MO in this whole barrage has been "people should die or be tortured for creating art that you don't particularly enjoy". I think I used to say stuff like that when I was 15-- in fact, I probably even said that about Chris Columbus when "The Goonies" first came out-- but here, I've just basically said that I'm indifferent to a film that you don't like. And that getting really mad at a whole city about it is kind of lame an immature. > > PS: I am actually not melting down, or even in a bad mood. In fact, I've > been in a good mood lately. It's just....jesus, once in a while I have to > jam the antennae of the Rex and Jeff Show. In other words... YOU can't help it. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:34:58 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Random film stingery The Great Quail wrote: > At least he's being productive and vaguely interesting again. Hey, if we can > get the cultists to fixate on Dennis Miller, I'd be all for the construction > of a few thousand more Starbucks.... What's Miller been up to? He doesn't still have his show on, what was it? MSNBC? I think Mel Gibson is in more dire need of cultist fixation than Miller. DM's just a sharp-witted above-average-intelligence (surprise) conservative. Gibson is a just-add-booze anti-Semite. Sure a night out with Mel could prove entertaining, but that whole random factor is a bit much for me. Who knows what he'd be like after a bit of meth or heroin? /mind reeling with possibilities. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:32 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > You, however, are a humorless, tedious wank with an > uncontrollably inflating head who keeps insisting on handing out pins. I think I'd already said, and a few other folks backed it up: humor's a little subjective, innit? > "The distinction is lost...." You are actually...upset...that I claimed to > have established your role as an extra in "Crash." I just don't know what > to > say. Erm, no, not upset, I just thought it was a lame joke the first time and didn't improve with retelling. > You're like that sullen kid on the playground who grows up to close his > eyes and wear oven mitts when he masturbates. I mean, were you home > schooled? Are you Amish, maybe? Well, that's an extremely insulting and shitty thing to say. Don't even know how to respond to something so obnoxious. And I don't follow the logic, anyway. Are you saying I'm prudish? Prone to self-denial? Can't think of any reason you'd come up with that. You're an asshole. > >> But -- you live CLOSER to him than I do, and you have not KILLED him > yet. > > > > > > Why do you say shit like that? Oh, you think it's funny. > > I do! Oddly enough, like so many other witless psychopaths from > Aristophanes > to Monty Python, I actually get the occasional yuck at pretend violence. See, it really comes down to you and I having different senses of humor. > But I am > not necessarily talking about being funny, but possessing the ability to > recognize humor in its various forms, as well as the ability to laugh at > one's self and to not take things so damn personally and so seriously. > But I don't take this seriously. At all. I see you getting a whole lot more worked up than I am. Again, puzzling. It was just Rex, who has nothing better > to do than lecture me about his immigrant janitor. > In response to you having nothing better to do than blow a gasket about a movie that you didn't have to watch. > > This is a good point. But nevertheless, I have found Rex to be > particularly > humorless and thin-skinned. He knows this, so I can only assume he wanted > to > start something when he decided to walk in front of my speeding rant > dressed > like a school marm. > Dude, you take this WAY more seriously than I do. > I only use "humorless" for those who are, essentially, humorless. Like > with > my rants on "Crash" and Rex's overwrought responses. > WAY more seriously! > > No, I really do think that I am a pretentious blowhard. And I was rather > offended that Rex -- who seems to be stuck in the "I'm rubber you're glue" > school of arguing -- couldn't even be bothered to come up with his own > insults. Oh, no, wait -- he did call me "stupid" twice. I suppose that's > something. > Do we start comparing dick sizes now? I'm huge. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:51:29 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Attn: Rex Broome On 8/2/06, 2fs wrote: > > Rex, I do not like your hair. Sigh. Me neither. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:59:35 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Son of Random film geekery > I never quite get this bugaboo of Quail's and Eb's, that I "can't help myself" > or whatever. Then let me put it simply. In general, I think you lack the critical faculties to detect when you are being riled. You are what a carny would call "an easy mark." The very fact that you continue to take my comments about LA seriously is proof enough of your ineluctable squareness. I look at you like this: You are like the ultimate straight man, a Natalie Merchant fan at a Devo concert, baffled and wondering why people aren't wearing sensible shoes. Look, I am *sure* you are a loving, generous person who is kind to animals. And since you took a page from my playbook and flamed out only to return later, I've been trying to be nice. But your recent replies to me are ridiculous, and despite that voice in the back of my head telling me not to shoot fish in a barrel, you may be right about one thing-- I can't seem to help myself. Look at the bright side -- at least you have a mortal enemy now. That's fun, right? You can be Eddie to my Eb! Or my Eb to your Eddie. Or something like that. >Quail, your MO in this whole barrage has been "people should die > or be tortured for creating art that you don't particularly enjoy". Exactly! That's what I really believe, and you have discovered it with your amazing powers of critical perception! You have unmasked me for the Maoist tyrant that I am. Now, I'll cue "Sir Pyscho Sexy," and let the bloodletting begin! First on the block -- Joel Schumacher! >I think I > used to say stuff like that when I was 15-- in fact, I probably even said that > about Chris Columbus when "The Goonies" first came out Wait?!?!? Chris Columbus directed a movie with a giant octopus? Oh, wow, I didn't know that. On second thought, he's not such a bad guy after all. If "Rent" would have had a giant octopus, man, I would have been down with that. Anyway, "here's your throat back -- thanks for the loan." - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:24:37 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/2/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > > In response to you having nothing better to do than blow a gasket about a > movie that you didn't have to watch. That reminds me of a joke: A Quail is driving in the desert when his car breaks down. He stops at the nearest gas station and asks the mechanic to find out what's wrong with the car. Since it's a blazing hot day, he wanders across the street to an ice-cream shop, and orders a triple cone. He eats the ice cream greedily. He wanders back across the street to the gas station, and the mechanic, seeing him, says, "Well, it looks like you blew a gasket." Quail says, "No, no - that's just ice cream." At least I think that's how the joke goes. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Random film geekery On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Steve Schiavo wrote: > On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:57 PM, The Great Quail wrote: > > > Gwen Stefani -- bit only for her boobs > > Freudian slip? Wait, what boobs? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:53:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Son of Random film geekery Would it be silly of me to ask why this is being posted to the general list? I thought so. On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, The Great Quail wrote: > > I never quite get this bugaboo of Quail's and Eb's, that I "can't help myself" > > or whatever. > > Then let me put it simply. In general, I think you lack the critical > faculties to detect when you are being riled. You are what a carny would > call "an easy mark." The very fact that you continue to take my comments > about LA seriously is proof enough of your ineluctable squareness. I look at > you like this: You are like the ultimate straight man, a Natalie Merchant > fan at a Devo concert, baffled and wondering why people aren't wearing > sensible shoes. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:59:53 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Son of Random film geekery > Would it be silly of me to ask why this is being posted to the general > list? Because he asked me publicly, not privately. - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:58:04 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Random film geekery On Aug 1, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, The Great Quail wrote: > >> Next on my hit list: Wilkes Barre! > > Dude, no one on the list but you, me and Jon Fetter has ever heard of > Wilkes Barre. I've been there too! And I know enough that it's pronounced "Wilkesburry". Oh, and folks say "yins" a lot, as in "Yins will never get there in that broken down old truck!" > > Really all of California south of the Apple campus should go. Could we spare my house? It's about 12 miles south. And maybe Santa Cruz too... I've always advocated building a ten lane bridge from Santa Barbara to Dana Point, with no exits. That way one could actually get from one nice part of California to another without having to sit in a cesspool of stagnant traffic for two hours. Granted the Sillycone Valley is congested too, but at least it clears up after commute time. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:47:34 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Son of Random film geekery On 8/2/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > > I never quite get this bugaboo of Quail's and Eb's, that I "can't help > myself" > > or whatever. > > Then let me put it simply. In general, I think you lack the critical > faculties to detect when you are being riled. You are what a carny would > call "an easy mark." Hmm. Well, you're wrong, again assuming that I care more than I do. Even if you weren't, the carny at least stands to profit from his mark... what do you get out of this, a forum for rococo insults? > The very fact that you continue to take my comments > about LA seriously is proof enough of your ineluctable squareness. And... your beligerence is proof of your... coolness? I've never taken your actual comments seriously. I'm not stupid. They just struck me as lame and lazy, and their lameness worth pointing out. > I look at > you like this: You are like the ultimate straight man, a Natalie Merchant > fan at a Devo concert, baffled and wondering why people aren't wearing > sensible shoes. Dumbest thing I've ever heard. You ascribe an earnest cluelessness to me that just isn't there. I mean, I am admittedly baffled by cruelty, and why people get off on it. But I don't think Devo, or Monty Python, or whomever, are especially cruel, which is part of why I like them more than I do the starchy earnestness of your Natalie Merchant, or Rush, for that matter. Let's just say that beeing called "square" by you is not cause for alarm or introspection. > Look, I am *sure* you are a loving, generous person who is kind to > animals. Original, that one. And since you took a page from my playbook and flamed out only to return > later, True, I did that *just* to be like you! > I've been trying to be nice. But your recent replies to me are > ridiculous, and despite that voice in the back of my head telling me not > to > shoot fish in a barrel, you may be right about one thing-- I can't seem to > > help myself. I dunno, from where I stand, your obnoxious insults aren't shooting fish in barrel, they're shooting yourself in the foot. Airing your own odd compulsion to be a jackass, cloaking it in supposedly clever prose, etc. I can't be bothered to think of my own insults... the bizarre religio-sexual putdowns you lovingly handcraft for me do the trick just fine. > First on the block -- Joel Schumacher! Now THAT's a fish in a barrel! -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:47:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Random RHCP geekery Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >> it was probably obvious to EVERYONE but you that Quail was >> kidding about RHCP and Ice Cube being all that LA music has to offer. > > Woulda thought so, but then he reaffirmed it. > > "Obvious to EVERYONE except for me"... if I didn't know better, I'd > think > maybe you actually believe I'm not all that bright. This didn't help your case much: > Quail, your MO in this whole barrage has been "people > should die or be tortured for creating art that you don't particularly > enjoy". I think I used to say stuff like that when I was 15-- in > fact, I > probably even said that about Chris Columbus when "The Goonies" > first came > out-- but here, I've just basically said that I'm indifferent to a > film that > you don't like. I'm getting all teary and sentimental here. This is like the old days, when I'd post some concert review and a single aside from the text would turn into a grand, unrelated argument. I LOVE YOU GUYS!! :( :( - ----------- The Great Quail wrote: > Then let me put it simply. In general, I think you lack the critical > faculties to detect when you are being riled. You are what a carny > would > call "an easy mark." The very fact that you continue to take my > comments > about LA seriously is proof enough of your ineluctable squareness. Two points for an apt description, four points for what I'm sure must be the list's first usage of the word "ineluctable." I didn't see a film last night, but I did see a really cool Pee Wee's Playhouse rerun. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:50:11 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Random film geekery The Great Quail wrote: > Not only that, if you read my first post, I also declared New York > City > worthy of doom as well. As well you should. No music worth fuck-all has come out of New York except Sonic Youth and Madonna. Eb (still AH#1, bucko) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:51:33 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Random film geekery At 08:02 PM 8/1/2006, Christopher Gross wrote: >Really all of California south of the Apple campus should go. We're willing to secede if we can have Vegas. And Hawaii. And if in turn you hand over everything between and including Apple and Seattle to either Communist China, Syria or France. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:10:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Son of Random film geekery On 8/2/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > > > First on the block -- Joel Schumacher! > > > Now THAT's a fish in a barrel! Dammit, you stole my film concept: there's this world-famous movie director (Jeff Goldblum), see, but it turns out...he's really a fish! And, like, he has a mansion with a swimming pool - but the mansion *is* a swimming pool! And he's become all paranoid that the Mrs. Paul's fisherman guy (Mel Gibson) is after him! And then he falls in love with, uh, this mousy woman (Uma Thurman - in glasses) who works for the maid service! But *she*'s really secretly...a cat! And there's this janitor from, like, Uganda or something (that one guy from _Serenity_ and _Dirty Pretty Things_)! Who's all wise and shit. And so everyone learns a LESSON about TOLERANCE and DIFFERENCE! Yay! (Please note: actual janitor still must clean up after actual film people.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:23:14 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/2/06, Eb wrote: > > The Great Quail wrote: > > Not only that, if you read my first post, I also declared New York > > City > > worthy of doom as well. > > As well you should. No music worth fuck-all has come out of New York > except Sonic Youth and Madonna. Now, see, that is some clear sarcasm! I hope somebody's taking notes. (Truth is I can identify Eb's facetious musical statements more easily because he has better taste than Quail. You know, subjectively.) - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:27:19 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap (of special note to Eddie) Groundbreaking reality make-over show Queer Eye For The Straight Guy has been canceled after three seasons - but the stars of the show insist they are still a huge hit with celebrities. The show features five gay men who make-over unstylish straight men each week on the Bravo network, and since hitting the screen the camp stylists have been asked to revamp the homes of stars including Jennifer Lopez. Queer Eye member Jai Rodriguez says the show won't be returning for another season, explaining, "Well, we haven't been asked back for 2007. It's only been three years, but it feels like so much more due to the overexposure. I started when I was 23. In that first year, I was on Oprah's couch. I was on Ellen (Degeneres). People recognized me. J. Lo is a huge fan of ours. (Queer Eye member) Thom Filicia just re-did her house." The show recently broke new ground again by making over Miles, a transgendered man. Rodriguez adds, "Maybe this is how we are going out with a bang. Everyone (in the group) has big new projects. I'm working on a TV show and a movie in the fall. We just had a tour of the Philippines. We are huge there. Like Michael Jackson in 1983." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:01:29 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random RHCP geekery On 8/2/06, Eb wrote: > ----------- > The Great Quail wrote: > > Then let me put it simply. In general, I think you lack the critical > > faculties to detect when you are being riled. You are what a carny > > would > > call "an easy mark." The very fact that you continue to take my > > comments > > about LA seriously is proof enough of your ineluctable squareness. > > Two points for an apt description, four points for what I'm sure must > be the list's first usage of the word "ineluctable." Can someone explain to me why, even theoretically, someone being an "easy mark" means that they *should* be shot at? It sounds like the kind of thing that'd be done by people who are, like, NOT kind to animals. "It is weak and it displeases us, therefore it should be crushed." Charming. My general take on the whole thing is that, at some point, Quail and Eb developed a kind of idee fixe about me that I was actually strident and overly serious about... well, everything, apparently, and they read everything I write through that filter. So I can't call bullshit on anything without it being interpreted as some kind of anguished cry from the depths of my soul. And yeah, that's more entertaining than the truth, which is that-- I dunno how many times I need to reiterate this-- I didn't feel passionately about the movie CRASH one way or the other. Entertaining if you like being pissed off, that is, and I really don't. But you know, whatever gets you through the night is cool with me. I could do without all the masturbation and nun imagery being directly associated with me, but if you really can't help yourself... - -SER ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #180 ********************************