From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #178 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 1 2006 Volume 15 : Number 178 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ole! tarantula artwork [wojbearpig ] Re: Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] sign of the apocalypse [xx ] My name is "Eb", and I declare "Keep On Chooglin'" the finest piece of songwriting of the modern era ["Stacke] Re: Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Random film geekery [2fs ] Re: Inspired out of the lurk by a new album. ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: Random film geekery [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Random film geekery [Eb ] Re: Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] Re: Random film geekery [2fs ] Re: Random film geekery [2fs ] Re: Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] Re: Random film geekery [Eb ] Re: Random film geekery [2fs ] Re: Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Random film geekery [The Great Quail ] Re: Random film geekery [Eb ] Re: Random film geekery ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:18:49 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: ole! tarantula artwork - ----- Forwarded message from Colin ----- To: RobynHitchcockClub@yahoogroups.com From: "Colin" Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:59:52 -0000 Subject: [RobynHitchcockClub] Robyn's new record Amazon now has the cover art for Ole Tarantula here; http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GLL2JG Colin - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:37:01 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Random film geekery > So...sorry, but I'd rank "Crash" over this nominee too. Boy, between > "Crash," "Munich," "Brokeback Mountain" and this film, the right wing > REALLY has an axe to grind about the Academy favoring politically > correct films, don't they? I would not call "Munich," which was my favorite nominee, politically correct. Not that I want to open a debate about the film's politics, but it did not seen one-sided to me at all. I have not seen "Brokeback Mountain," but I have seen "Crash," which I thought was a piece of self-righteous, overly-contrived, poorly written, infuriatingly smug, faux-liberal trash, the kind of pretentious crap that Los Angeles loves to foster on the rest of the nation, as if delivering unto the benighted the gospel from on high. Oh God, I hated that movie! Like an after-school special directed by someone who thinks Tarantino had the right idea, but was offended by all that yucky violence and bad language. In fact, after it "won" best picture, I pretty much had a hate-on for all of LA -- until I saw the atrocious film version of "Rent," and realized that New York could be just as wretched and deserving of doom. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: xx Subject: sign of the apocalypse Was at the local, dreaded Starbucks this morning. Much to my surprise, I saw a CD there titled "Senses Working Overtime". It is an 80's compilation featuring The Cure, Bauhaus, XTC, and much more. The second to last track is "Trams of Old London" by some Robyn Hitchcock guy.... argh - -griffith np - X "make the music go bang" disc 1 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:03:48 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: My name is "Eb", and I declare "Keep On Chooglin'" the finest piece of songwriting of the modern era the old-er-school-than-thou pose isn't going to get you very far so long as messrs. godwin and winkworth are still patrolling this board! if you e-mail it to me, i'll host it on my site. my recollection is that with regards to the music industry, pre-napster: - -- "piracy" was defined as the selling of knock-off recordings of officially released material. - -- "bootlegging" was defined as the selling of recordings of live performances and/or un-released material. my 1979 world book dictionary more less corroborates this definition. what say you, stewart? uh, wait. is *this* an example of what you mean by saying that the sanctity of law must be honored at all times, ferris? i would agree that selling only the *digital* copy would make one an asshole. but bootleggers and pirates should, i suppose, be allowed to sell at the cost of the materials used without being shackled with the epithet - -- especially those that go out of their way to create an artistic sleeve (the *Tin Of Crabs* and *Churches And Fish* EPs are two examples that come readily to mind). but, c'mon, the *real* assholes are the suits. don't think it'd have anything to do with how expensive the table was, but rather if there were something unique in the design. i don't know if there are any patented tables, but there is at least one patented shoe: the earth shoe. it's pretty funny, too, 'cause the designer got the idea by mimicking the stride of a person walking barefoot on sand (or something like that). so, if the company were to get a notion to follow the trail blazed by big ag and big pharm, they may soon be filing suit against those choosing to walk barefoot on the beach... may as well have already been privatised, as we're forced to breathe private industry's pollution -- without compensation, too. i would argue that they're properly thought of as *won* via Fighting The Man (the *Motherfucking* Man, if you prefer). ah, so the *are* "in your life". <> as i say, that was, historically, the definition (unless i'm mis-remembering). if you've got better terminology, feel free to offer it up. but my concern isn't the connotation, but rather the blurring (nay, erasing) of the distinction between selling and sharing. which is to say that i for one don't consider pirates/bootleggers -- at least those selling their wares for $30 a pop, or what have you -- any more or less unsavory that the rekkid labels and the movie studios. it seems to me that if it turned out that markets were the most efficient way to allocate scarce resources (we don't really know, one way or the other), that socialists shouldn't have any problem with them -- provided, of course, that all players entered the market on an equal footing. actually, that was bayard that said that. i only noted that it'd gotten some pretty great reviews. having since heard it; i would say that it's quite good, but not probably in my top-five for the year. coupla shows from last week-end were uploaded to dime yesterday, FYI. i liked it okay, but it don't hold a candle to *Quiz Show*. incidentally, though there probably are some, i can't think of a movie with a more effective closing-credits song. (as opposed to closing-credits score, where i give the nod to *Barton Fink*.) KEN "Loss of sphincter control is not uncommon" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:05:12 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > > I have not seen "Brokeback Mountain," but I have seen "Crash," which I > thought was a piece of self-righteous, overly-contrived, poorly written, > infuriatingly smug, faux-liberal trash, the kind of pretentious crap that > Los Angeles loves to foster on the rest of the nation, as if delivering > unto > the benighted the gospel from on high. Indeed. I remember getting the memo that we, Los Angeles, were going to do that, and just how very excited I was that we, Los Angeles, were once again to unite in fostering such a thing. Not to defend CRASH per se, but that's an overly generalized, obnoxious and... well... infuriatingly smug little tirade you got goin' on there. More'n a little hypocritical, too, since the Angelenos on the list do a lot less dripping with contempt for the benighted than yourself (see above). Even if you substituted "the Film Industry" for "Los Angeles", you'd be perpetuating a myth that just doesn't hold up, as a glance at any given week's box office makes perfectly clear. Most of the money in Hollywood comes from and goes towards things-going-boom, the liberal veneer being a pretty thin covering for stuff that generally postulates that violence is the solution to most problems. Occasional spasms of liberal guilt result in Oscar-bait like CRASH, but, seriously... generally speaking, you got motherfucking snakes on a motherfucking plane, right? Or are you going to characteristically state that that's populist and therefore good? If so, you should be nicer to the industry that turns out that kind of thing, or at least leave the city at the center of that industry alone. And, well... why exactly did you think that a film version of RENT might possibly be somehow good, or worth watching? - -SER, (almost) eschewing trotting out Mel Gibson as an example of how damned liberal Hollywood is ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:40:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > > I have not seen "Brokeback Mountain," but I have seen "Crash," which I > thought was a piece of self-righteous, overly-contrived, poorly written, > infuriatingly smug, faux-liberal trash, the kind of pretentious crap that > Los Angeles loves to foster on the rest of the nation, as if delivering > unto > the benighted the gospel from on high. > > Oh God, I hated that movie! Like an after-school special directed by > someone > who thinks Tarantino had the right idea, but was offended by all that > yucky > violence and bad language. In fact, after it "won" best picture, I pretty > much had a hate-on for all of LA -- until I saw the atrocious film version > of "Rent," and realized that New York could be just as wretched and > deserving of doom. I haven't seen the movie - but never mind LA and NYC, it's Sioux Falls Idaho that really pisses me off. Why just last week it said it was going to call, and we were going to go do some shopping and maybe check out the new strip-mall on its outskirts - but as usual, it just "forgot," and I'm sitting here not sure whether it's going to call or whether I should call to make sure nothing went wrong, like maybe it got hit by a tornado or the potato blight or something, but no, turns out it was just lazing around in the sun and completely "lost track of time." Hrmph - I've seen the way it looks at those skanky Kansas City twins. I know what's on its mind. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:42:09 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Inspired out of the lurk by a new album. On 28/07/06, Joseph Szilvagyi wrote: > > It amuses me to read about so many people who first heard Robyn when Moss > Elixer came out. Actually, I should point out that ME wasn't my first exposure to Robyn. My brother had A Can of Bees on vinyl about 10 years earlier, and I'd been on fegmaniax for about a year when it came out. Stewart (it's been 11 years now ...) - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:49:03 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: My name is not "Eb," and I am not a pirate Just to endorse the notion that in music, "piracy" was usually the selling of illegitimate copies that *pretended* to be the real thing. That is, you'd find your shady dude in the corner stall (often in nations that held looser notions of copyright than the US) trying to sell you an LP with a cover that looked suspiciously like a cheaply reproduced photograph of the Grateful Dead's Blues for Allah, with a back cover looked like a sheet of typewriter paper and song titles misspelled. The LPs themselves were often pressed on a mixture of seaweed and cardboard. Rather than playing them with a needle, you were advised to blow on the grooves and place the thin end of a cone near them, cocking your ears to the wide end of the cone. I don't think there's anyone in the world who thinks an mp3 they find online is put there officially by the record company, and there's no attempt to persuade consumers of that. So whatever it is, applying the word "piracy" to it doesn't seem accurate. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Random film geekery 2fs wrote: > I haven't seen the movie - but never mind LA and > NYC, it's Sioux Falls Idaho that really pisses me > off. Well, it might help if you were waiting for a call from a city that actually exists. There's Twin Falls and Idaho Falls in Idaho, but no Sioux Falls. And there's Sioux Falls in South Dakota, which is only one state away from Idaho.... "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:20:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Random film geekery The Great Quail wrote: >> So...sorry, but I'd rank "Crash" over this nominee too. Boy, between >> "Crash," "Munich," "Brokeback Mountain" and this film, the right wing >> REALLY has an axe to grind about the Academy favoring politically >> correct films, don't they? > > I would not call "Munich," which was my favorite nominee, politically > correct. Not that I want to open a debate about the film's > politics, but it > did not seen one-sided to me at all. Oh, you and your Spielberg swooning. > Oh God, I hated that movie! Speaking of "Oh God, I hated that movie," I saw "Flightplan" last night and I can't even remember the last film I hated so much. HAAAAAAAAATED it. Were there really people ROOTING for that screaming, ice-cold, creepily-plastic-surgeried bitch? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:24:54 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Random film geekery Amidst a whole lot of convoluted whining that only suggests to me he was probably an extra in "Crash," Rex writes, > And, well... why exactly did you think that a film version of RENT might > possibly be somehow good, or worth watching? That is a good point. I actually never saw the original or heard the soundtrack, so I was foolishly expecting something at least...passable. Instead, I stared in Clockwork Orange-style shock and awe as I forced myself to viddy an endless stream of gut-wrenching horror brought me to the brink of self-extinction. At least "Crash" had William Fichtner. Jesus, "Rent" made me want to give away my Lou Reed records and move back to Enola, PA, the punk rock capital of the world. Nevertheless! I still think the entire city of LA can detach itself and float quietly out to sea. Except maybe the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Ice Cube. They're ok. Oh, and Eb, because his sarcasm always struck me as more East Coast anyway. But everyone else? You should all be forced to watch an Oscar-style self-congratulatory montage for the rest of your lives! Just for "Crash!" And interpretive dancing! And electing an Austrian governor! And for letting Chris Columbus make movies! And...and...for reviving Sandra Bullock's career! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT, REX!!! > -SER, (almost) eschewing trotting out Mel Gibson as an example of how damned > liberal Hollywood is Wow, you really believe that, don't you? Come on! Hollywood are the worst types of wankers. They make endless movies of exploding foreigners to pay the bills, and then at Oscar time, they all scramble to show each other how totally awesome and really liberal they are. This is a town where "Driving Miss Daisy" won Best Picture in a year that "Do the Right Thing" was ignored. Burn, Hollywood Burn!* - --Quail, about to spin Tool's "Aenima" *Except for Steven Spielberg. Fuck you, I like him. He gets only thirty-seven hours of montage, mostly pulled from "Hook" and the ending of "War of the Worlds." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:03:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > I haven't seen the movie - but never mind LA and > > NYC, it's Sioux Falls Idaho that really pisses me > > off. > > Well, it might help if you were waiting for a call > from a city that actually exists. There's Twin Falls > and Idaho Falls in Idaho, but no Sioux Falls. And > there's Sioux Falls in South Dakota, which is only one > state away from Idaho.... Goddamned liar, giving me a fake name... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:04:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, Eb wrote: > > > > Speaking of "Oh God, I hated that movie," I saw "Flightplan" last > night and I can't even remember the last film I hated so much. > HAAAAAAAAATED it. Were there really people ROOTING for that > screaming, ice-cold, creepily-plastic-surgeried bitch? Excuse me - did you just say "cold ice-cream and creepy plastic sugar," or are my eyes going bad? I like the Sugarplastic. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:34:11 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Random film geekery > Speaking of "Oh God, I hated that movie," I saw "Flightplan" last > night and I can't even remember the last film I hated so much. > HAAAAAAAAATED it. Were there really people ROOTING for that > screaming, ice-cold, creepily-plastic-surgeried bitch? Ha ha ha! Sooooooo bad! That was one of those plot-holed movies with so many moments of utter stupidity that I *wanted* the protagonist to die a horrible death, like "The Net" or "15 Minutes." I do like Cillian Murphy, though, especially in "28 Days Later," "Batman Begins," and "Breakfast on Pluto." - --Q PS: You are so jealous of Spielberg, Eb! It's cute. I know that you have the special collector's edition of "Sugarland Express." Do not deny your love!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:35:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Random film geekery The Great Quail wrote: > Nevertheless! I still think the entire city of LA can detach itself > and > float quietly out to sea. Except maybe the Red Hot Chili Peppers > and Ice > Cube. They're ok. Oh, and Eb, because his sarcasm always struck me > as more > East Coast anyway. But everyone else? You should all be forced to > watch an > Oscar-style self-congratulatory montage for the rest of your lives! You just resent that we address the state of the human condition, and serve as a mirror of these troubled times. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:44:10 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > Except maybe the Red Hot Chili Peppers Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:03:11 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > Amidst a whole lot of convoluted whining that only suggests to me he was > probably an extra in "Crash," Rex writes, Nope, just saying that condemnining an entire city because a small, unrepresentative wealthy portion of its residents doesn't share your politics makes you sound stupid. On CRASH itself, I'm pretty meh. Can't imagine for whom it was useful; largely preaching to the converted. I'm neither impressed nor enraged by it. Nevertheless! I still think the entire city of LA can detach itself and > float quietly out to sea. Except maybe the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Ice > Cube. Oh my god... maybe you ARE stupid! > They're ok. Oh, and Eb, because his sarcasm always struck me as more > East Coast anyway. Enough with the geographical generalities already! Now sarcasm is "East Coast"? Or just queeny, bitter sarcasm? I dunno, I hear a lot of that out here. > But everyone else? You should all be forced to watch an > Oscar-style self-congratulatory montage for the rest of your lives! Just > for > "Crash!" Dude, I didn't make it. My neighbor didn't make it. In fact I don't know anyone who had anything to do with it. > > > And interpretive dancing! God knows I certainly wasn't involved in that. > > And electing an Austrian governor! Didn't vote for the guy. > And > for letting Chris Columbus make movies! Never greenlit a one. > -SER, (almost) eschewing trotting out Mel Gibson as an example of how damned > liberal Hollywood is > Wow, you really believe that, don't you? Um, no. It was sarcasm. Pretty blatant sarcasm, I thought. Come on! Hollywood are the worst > types of wankers. They make endless movies of exploding foreigners to pay > the bills, and then at Oscar time, they all scramble to show each other > how > totally awesome and really liberal they are. That... is... what I said. I mean, you are literally paraphrasing me in order to contradict me. You were whining about the liberalism of films like CRASH, and I cited those selfsame exploding foreignors as a counterexample. In fact the whole point of my "whining" was not that "Hollywood is good" in any way... just that it's not especially liberal in terms of its output, and saying it is is inaccurate and tiresome. I mean, jeez, you like more shitty Hollywood movies than I do, so as far as I can tell you benefit more from those wankers than I do. Why bitch about it? > This is a town where "Driving > Miss Daisy" won Best Picture in a year that "Do the Right Thing" was > ignored. Burn, Hollywood Burn!* Ah, so in your reductive imagination you equate Los Angeles with not only the entertainment industry in general but specifically the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences? Dude, start calling random numbers in the 213 (323, 310, 818, etc.) area code and tell me how long it takes you to strike up a chat with an Academy member. You might want to go buy a whole bunch of translation dictionaries first, 'cuz you're gonna hear a lot of Spanish, Korean, Tagalog, etc. etc. etc. before Jack Valenti picks up. - --Quail, about to spin Tool's "Aenima" Yeah, we know. - -SER, not having advocated death or torture for anyone today ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:44:57 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Random film geekery Rex, who continues to take things far too seriously, whines away with: > Nope, just saying that condemnining an entire city because a small, > unrepresentative wealthy portion of its residents doesn't share your politics > makes you sound stupid. This has nothing to do with politics. My loathing of "Crash" far transcends politics. It is so abominable it extends to the city itself, and most likely the very time-space continuum that holds the film. I may even end up hating the entire year 2005 AD. >On CRASH itself, I'm pretty meh. Can't imagine for > whom it was useful; largely preaching to the converted. Converted to...what? That racism is bad? Or that little girls with magic shields can leap in front of kind-hearted daddies and stop bullets that were actually blank anyway oh MY GOD I can't believe my hands are letting me even summarize this scene! My problem with "Crash" is that it is humorless, pedantic, witless and patronizing. Kind of like your reply to my rant. > Oh my god... maybe you ARE stupid! Maybe. But "Blood Sugar Sex Magic" and "The Predator" are the only two things granting LA a reprieve from my unholy wrath. I would have taken out my scissors and cut Los Angeles right off my Funk & Wagnall's atlas a long time ago if it weren't for those two records. > Enough with the geographical generalities already! Now sarcasm is "East > Coast"? Or just queeny, bitter sarcasm? Eb's a queen? Then...there's hope for me and Eddie after all! > Dude, I didn't make it. My neighbor didn't make it. In fact I don't know > anyone who had anything to do with it. I don't know, I think I have already established that you were an extra. >> And interpretive dancing! > > God knows I certainly wasn't involved in that. Uh huh. Likely story. Go on. >> And >> for letting Chris Columbus make movies! > > Never greenlit a one. But -- you live CLOSER to him than I do, and you have not KILLED him yet. I claim the Nuremburg clause! Look, did I or did I not make New Yorker Ann Coulter look like an idiot in her last book? I did that just for you, I did that for all of us! >> -SER, (almost) eschewing trotting out Mel Gibson as an example of how damned >> liberal Hollywood is > > >> Wow, you really believe that, don't you? > > Um, no. It was sarcasm. Pretty blatant sarcasm, I thought. Right. I meant, you really believe your own sarcasm? Mel Gibson was never a liberal, and is hardly the paragon of Hollywood politics. And now, he's probably dead, dead in your town! It's like thinking New York is a Red State because we always vote for a Republican mayor. You can't really believe he's a good example for the current reigning elite? > I mean, jeez, you like more shitty Hollywood > movies than I do, so as far as I can tell you benefit more from those wankers > than I do. Why bitch about it? Because I wish they would just stick to making shitty movies and stop cramming their hypocritical sanctimonious bullshit down my throat every Oscar season! And stop with the fucking interpretive dancing, sweet baby jesus, PLEASE! > Ah, so in your reductive imagination you equate Los Angeles with not only the > entertainment industry in general but specifically the Academy of Motion > Picture Arts and Sciences? Yes. But thank you for your statements on multi-ethnic variety in LA! I was totally unaware there were other cultures there besides white rich people. > -SER, not having advocated death or torture for anyone today Well, you have certainly strangled your sense of humor -- does that count? Next on my hit list: Wilkes Barre! - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:26:46 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Random film geekery The Great Quail wrote: > My problem with "Crash" is that it is humorless, pedantic, witless and > patronizing. I haven't seen "Munich" yet, but how many of these adjectives would also apply to that film? > Maybe. But "Blood Sugar Sex Magic" and "The Predator" are the only two > things granting LA a reprieve from my unholy wrath. But what about Gwen Stefani? > Next on my hit list: Wilkes Barre! You miserable bastard. http://www.wilkes-barre.org/pages/livinghere/famousfirsts.html I really don't know how you can attack a city with a world-renowned coal carver. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:27:50 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Random film geekery On 8/1/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > Rex, who continues to take things far too seriously, whines away with: Dude, who's reacting to everything with "people should be tortured, killed, etc. for disagreeing with me or living in certain places?" > This has nothing to do with politics. My loathing of "Crash" far > transcends > politics. It is so abominable it extends to the city itself, and most > likely > the very time-space continuum that holds the film. And you say I'm whining? Criminy! According to you, nothing that bothers you has anything to do with politics. But every time you blow a gasket, politics are close at hand. Hmm. > I > > > > may even end up hating > > the entire year 2005 AD. > > I already do, so no doubt you'll change your mind on that one forthwith. > Converted to...what? That racism is bad? Or that little girls with magic > shields can leap in front of kind-hearted daddies and stop bullets that > were > actually blank anyway oh MY GOD I can't believe my hands are letting me > even > summarize this scene! Hell, I'd forgotten that scene. Told you I was pretty "meh" about the film. > > My problem with "Crash" is that it is humorless, pedantic, witless and > patronizing. Kind of like your reply to my rant. Or your entire persona, take your pick. At least you call a spade a spade with the word "rant". > > Oh my god... maybe you ARE stupid! > > Maybe. But "Blood Sugar Sex Magic" and "The Predator" are the only two > things granting LA a reprieve from my unholy wrath. Well, the former is, in my book, mediocre and overrated; the latter I've only ever heard in passing. But if you can't think of any other decent art, or, hell, rock music from Los Angeles, then it'd be an understatement to say that you're missing out. I can't believe you don't like the Doors! They're from LA and they're extremely popular, pretentious and pompous. Maybe Morrison doesn't have the pipes of a Geddy Lee, but otherwise they'd seem right up your alley. > > Dude, I didn't make it. My neighbor didn't make it. In fact I don't > know > > anyone who had anything to do with it. > > I don't know, I think I have already established that you were an extra. "Established", no. "Made a lame joke about", yeah. The distinction is lost on you, but whatever. > But -- you live CLOSER to him than I do, and you have not KILLED him yet. Why do you say shit like that? Oh, you think it's funny. > > Right. I meant, you really believe your own sarcasm? Mel Gibson was never > a > liberal, and is hardly the paragon of Hollywood politics. And now, he's > probably dead, dead in your town! My town. Eb's town. Mel's town. Lotta people live here. And so what if he is dead (his career, I assume you mean)? He'd deserve it, I think. I'm frankly appalled at how timid the industry was in condemning the hateful bastard. > You can't really believe he's > a good example for the current reigning elite? I never said anything about any ruling elite. Quite the opposite-- my point was and remains that Los Angeles. Is. Not. Peopled. Entirely. By. Studio. Executives. > Yes. But thank you for your statements on multi-ethnic variety in LA! I > was > totally unaware there were other cultures there besides white rich people. Amazingly you speak as if you are STILL unaware of this. There's a guy in my building right now with a mop not speaking a lot of English; should I tell him how pissed you are that he's ruined Mel Gibson's career, and that only the lyrics of Anthony Kiedis save him from your holy wrath? Or just warn him to vote for a less pretentious Best Picture nominee next time? > > Well, you have certainly strangled your sense of humor -- does that count? We established years ago that you didn't think I had a sense of humor to begin with, so that's just another dumb, unfunny thing you've written today. Pray continue. - -SER ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #178 ********************************