From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #174 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 27 2006 Volume 15 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: reap [Eb ] NEW on DIME: Hitchcock, Robyn w/Minus 3 feat. Peter Buck - Copenhagen, Loppen, DK - 2006-07-04 [aud] [] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: reap ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: reap ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: reap [Eb ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] Re: reap [2fs ] RE: reap ["Michael Wells" ] Re: reap [2fs ] Re: reap [Christopher Gross ] Re: reap [FSThomas ] iTunes disabled bands, part 14 [The Great Quail ] Nooz [Eb ] Re: Nooz [Tom Clark ] Re: Nooz [Eb ] Re: reap [Capuchin ] Re: Nooz [Capuchin ] Re: Nooz [2fs ] Re: Nooz [Jeff Dwarf ] MOJO Syd Farewell Issue [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] uh huh [Jill Brand ] Re: uh huh [Jeff Dwarf ] more fallout from CA power outages? [Eb ] Re: uh huh [Eb ] Re: more fallout from CA power outages? [2fs ] Re: album covers spoofing album covers [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: uh huh [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:14:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap >> Metallica's absence from iTunes is now history. I know you're all >> thrilled. > > From their site: > "At 12:01 AM, on Tuesday, July 25th, we will begin offering our > music on the iTunes Music Store, a Cupertino, CA based upstart > outfit, who we feel may very well have a bright future," What other big-time acts are iTunes holdouts? In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. Who else? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:29:04 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: NEW on DIME: Hitchcock, Robyn w/Minus 3 feat. Peter Buck - Copenhagen, Loppen, DK - 2006-07-04 [aud] apologies if this torrent has already been advertised. i think it might have been mentioned on the rhclub yahoogroups but not all of the lists - -- and i know i got it mixed with the dingwalls minus 5 torrent that also went up last weekend (this is what happens when you come back from a few days out of town without internet access...). so, for the record... http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=104527&hit=1 p.s. i should have it uploaded to the live music archive sometime during this week as well. - ----- Forwarded message from DIME ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 104527 Title: Hitchcock, Robyn w/Minus 3 feat. Peter Buck - Copenhagen, Loppen, DK - 2006-07-04 [aud] Size: 567.71 MB Category: Rock Uploaded by: willer Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin Hitchcock with Minus 3 - featuring Peter Buck Copenhagen Loppen, DK 2006-07-04 source: at933->bb->iriver->usb->hd->cep->cdwav->flac taper (willer@vip.ctbercity.dk) cd 1 - main set - 01. Intro 02. If You were a Priest 03. Sally was alegend 04. Tarantula 05. Adventure Rocket Ship 06. Queen of Eyes 07. NY Doll 08. Underground Sun (?) 09. Beautiful Queen 10. Somewhere Apart 11. Madonna Of The Wasps 12. Behind Your Eyes (?) 13. Jewels For Sophia 14. Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) 15. I Wanna Destroy You [Circle Jerks] - ------------------ cd 2 - encores - 01. Cigarettes, Coffee, Booze [Minus 5] 02. Aw, Shit Man [Minus 5] 03. Eight Miles High [Byrds] 04. Not Dark yet [Dylan] 05. The Afterlight 06. Propella time 07. The Soft Boys - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:47:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap Eb wrote: > What other big-time acts are iTunes holdouts? > > In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank > Zappa, Jethro Tull, King Crimson and Led Zeppelin > are missing. > > Who else? Some band from Liverpool.... "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:49:01 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: reap At 12:14 PM 7/26/2006, Eb wrote: >What other big-time acts are iTunes holdouts? > >In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, >King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. > >Who else? The Beatles and Radiohead come to mind. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:00:43 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: reap On 7/26/06, Eb wrote: > > >> Metallica's absence from iTunes is now history. I know you're all > >> thrilled. > > > > From their site: > > "At 12:01 AM, on Tuesday, July 25th, we will begin offering our > > music on the iTunes Music Store, a Cupertino, CA based upstart > > outfit, who we feel may very well have a bright future," > > What other big-time acts are iTunes holdouts? > > In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, > King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. Didn't the Beatles' absence lead to a leak from Apple Records about impending full-scale remasterings of the whole catalog? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:12:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, > King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. > > Didn't the Beatles' absence lead to a leak from Apple Records about > impending full-scale remasterings of the whole catalog? Oh. Blah. I don't know why I forgot to type the Beatles in the above list. And solo Paul, John and George, for that matter. Though Lennon's "Milk & Honey" is on iTunes, for some strange unique reason. I hadn't noticed that Radiohead was missing, though. The weird thing about iTunes is that you'll find every new micro- indie band on there, but then you'll look up some older well-known name and find next to nothing. :) Even Kiera Lee is on iTunes. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:17:25 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap On Jul 26, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 12:14 PM 7/26/2006, Eb wrote: >> What other big-time acts are iTunes holdouts? >> >> In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, >> King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. >> >> Who else? > > The Beatles and Radiohead come to mind. However, the new Thom Yorke is prominently featured. Maybe not so "big-time". - -tc, probably don't need to mention Fugazi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:27:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 7/26/06, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > > At 12:14 PM 7/26/2006, Eb wrote: > >> What other big-time acts are iTunes holdouts? > >> > >> In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, > >> King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. > >> > >> Who else? > > > > The Beatles and Radiohead come to mind. > > However, the new Thom Yorke is prominently featured. Maybe not so > "big-time". That's on a different label than Radiohead, though (XL ->Beggars Group vs. EMI...). Might have something to do w/it... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:33:28 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: reap >The weird thing about iTunes is that you'll find every new micro- >indie band on there, but then you'll look up some older well-known >name and find next to nothing. :) A couple of the Americana artists we've hosted said it was because the owners of their recordings don't give enough of a shit to make them available again. Newer, self-produced material that the artists own is happily made available at iTunes, etc. but their back catalog is languishing at record companies who won't return calls. TIFWIW. Michael "training camp opens tomorrow, and the 49ers are already out of the playoffs" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:54:11 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 7/26/06, Michael Wells wrote: > > > A couple of the Americana artists we've hosted said it was because the > owners of their recordings don't give enough of a shit to make them > available again. Newer, self-produced material that the artists own is > happily made available at iTunes, etc. but their back catalog is > languishing at record companies who won't return calls. TIFWIW. I'm surprised, and disappointed, that the whole digital thingy hasn't made more out-of-print stuff digitally available - since the logic had it that one reason stuff went out of print, or didn't get reissued, was that it cost considerably more to manufacture physical copies (as well as, after a change in tax law in the '80s (I think), maintain physical inventory) than to merely sell a digital copy. (And conversely, cheaper and easier for someone to buy a digital copy than a physical one - hence, more profit-potential.) Of course, someone has to encode the digital copy in the first place, which is an initial cost - and I think what's happened is that companies feel providing digital copies will cut into sales of any hypothetical reissue (no matter how hypothetical that reissue actually is). Curious... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: reap I think it's really quite simple. If an artist or label decides not to make their music available on iTunes, they're clearly saying "We prefer that you use allofmp3.com, or maybe BitTorrent." Right? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:41:54 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: reap Christopher Gross wrote: > I think it's really quite simple. If an artist or label decides not to > make their music available on iTunes, they're clearly saying "We prefer > that you use allofmp3.com, or maybe BitTorrent." Right? I think that's what they're saying when they intentionally withhold and/or sit on a copyrighted work and not release it be it on iTunes or at your local bookshop/record store. Electronic distribution, while not free by any means, hasn't the overhead of having to press 10k LPs to make a profit. Keeping works from the market (I'm thinking primarily music and books, here) is getting inexcusable. My wife and were talking about this the other night, actually. My (slanted) take on it: Why do you copyright something and seek a distributor/publisher/agent in the first place? At least in part to protect your materials and be certain you are compensated accordingly from the sale and distribution of those works. I would like to see, though, at the same time as a copyright is granted that there be some sort of compulsory responsibility on the part of the copyright holder to make an item available if requested. If you intentionally withhold a copyrighted material (to create an artificial demand, say, like Disney does with their limited-time-only DVD releases), then the public should then be free to use other means to secure a copy of the work, be it BitTorrent, assorted Russian download sites, etc.. If you want to protect your copyright and get paid accordingly, then get off your arse and make your stuff available. Keep it from the market and it will get out there via other, less savory means. - -f. - -- FS Thomas | Interactive Developer | fsthomas-at-ochremedia.com 404.758.8616 (home/office) | 404.274.1632 (mobile) | ferraatu (AIM) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:19:05 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: iTunes disabled bands, part 14 >> Who else? TOOL, man, TOOOOOOL!!!! - --Ken "The Quail" Kenster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:42:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Nooz If only I had a dollar for every time I've read a prepared quote from some suit who called a merger/acquisition a "perfect fit." Or who said he was "thrilled," for that matter. Eb Emmy Award Winning Fox Comedy ''Arrested Development'' Finds Post Broadcast Home Online, on Hi-Def TV and on Basic Cable LOS ANGELES & REDMOND, Wash. & DENVER--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 26, 2006-- Fox Entertainment Group Licenses Entire Three-Season Run of the Critically Acclaimed Favorite to MSN, HDNet and G4 Syndicating Series Simultaneously on Three Platforms Marks Industry First Today, Fox Entertainment Group, MSN, HDNet and G4 announced that America's funniest dysfunctional family will get a second shot at enduring fame with the complete three-seasons (53 episodes) of the award-winning comedy, "Arrested Development" available soon online, on hi-def TV and on basic cable. "We're thrilled that this groundbreaking, critically-acclaimed show will find an entirely new audience through a variety of complementary platforms - from rich media, to hi-def TV to cable," said Peter Levinsohn, President of Fox Digital Media. "This is the first time a series has been licensed to three platforms simultaneously, a testament to the explosion of the aftermarket for high-end content. We're actively developing this exciting new arena with partners like MSN, HDNet and G4." Produced by Twentieth Century Fox Television and Imagine Entertainment, the multiple award-winning "Arrested Development" ran for three years on FOX and was one of the most celebrated comedies in network history. It revolves around Michael Bluth (Jason Bateman) who is doing his best to pick up the pieces and keep his offbeat family from falling apart after his father, George Bluth (Jeffrey Tambor), is locked up for fraud. "This studio has led the industry in producing content for digital media, from our mobisode series to our DVD prequels to the vast array of wireless applications inspired by our shows," commented Twentieth Century Fox Television Presidents Gary Newman and Dana Walden. "Arrested Development' is exactly the right property to roll out on these exciting new media platforms. It's a win for both the loyal and passionate fans who adored the show during its network run and the millions more who will now have a chance to discover its genius." MSN will have the exclusive portal rights to syndicate the show for a three-year term, making this critically acclaimed series available to the masses for the first time online. As part of the pact, MSN will produce and launch a new range of interactive entertainment elements to build a community for Bluth family fans, who are ferocious in their devotion to the hilarious, suddenly penniless and equally clueless clan. Later this year, all episodes of "Arrested Development" will be streamed on MSN(R) Video and available on demand at no cost to MSN customers. Advertising opportunities associated with the online syndication of the series include display and streaming video plus sponsorship packages incorporating MSN media and in-content integration. "On TV, 'Arrested Development' created an incredibly passionate and dedicated fan base, and we're thrilled to bring this series to the global MSN audience," said Rob Bennett, General Manager of Video and Entertainment Services for MSN. "Our collaboration with Fox Entertainment Group further demonstrates MSN's commitment to being the best source of great entertainment content online." HDNet will have exclusive HD television access to the series for three years. The leader in high definition television, HDNet will begin airing "Arrested Development" episodes in September on its network, which is available through both cable and satellite platforms. HDNet produces a slate of original series and has licensing deals with a number of entertainment providers as well. "We're very excited to add 'Arrested Development' to our lineup of critically acclaimed, high definition programming," said Mark Cuban, President and Co-Founder of HDNet. "Our mission is to offer exclusive, award-winning shows that our viewers can and have grown emotionally attached to and that further extend HDNet's lead as the network for television like you have never seen before!" G4, the fastest growing network for 2006 and the number one podcasted network in the country, targets the male 18-34 audience. It has acquired the basic cable rights for the series for three years which it will begin airing in October 2006. G4 President Neal Tiles added, "Irreverence, cleverness and a wry sense of humor are all key attributes the G4 brand shares with 'Arrested Development.' This is a perfect fit with our audience's sensibility." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:05:06 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Nooz On Jul 26, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Eb wrote: > "On TV, 'Arrested Development' created an incredibly passionate and > dedicated fan base, and we're thrilled to bring this series to the > global MSN audience," said Rob Bennett, General Manager of Video and > Entertainment Services for MSN. How passionate and dedicated is that fan base now that the show has been cancelled? Talk about milking it... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:13:28 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Nooz >> "On TV, 'Arrested Development' created an incredibly passionate and >> dedicated fan base, and we're thrilled to bring this series to the >> global MSN audience," said Rob Bennett, General Manager of Video and >> Entertainment Services for MSN. > > How passionate and dedicated is that fan base now that the show has > been cancelled? Talk about milking it... Hey, don't rain on his parade. Let the guy be "thrilled." Better than being "outraged," after all. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: reap On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Eb wrote: > In addition to Metallica, I've noticed that Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, > King Crimson and Led Zeppelin are missing. Metallica's excuse thus far had been that they weren't going to allow individual track distribution period. They had already offered digital copies of full albums in other venues. I can imagine at least Crimson and Zappa ('s estate) having similar gripes. Honestly, I think of things like the iTunes Music Store more as a system of patronage rather than an actual distribution system. As I started doing with CDs almost ten years ago, I will now do with digital copies: I will pay only for the work of artists I feel will flourish with my support. I feel no obligation to support casual pleasures. That is to say, the loss of my money (and consequential time) is enough of a negative to completely counteract the positive benefit of, say, The Pixies (tastes vary, sure) in my life. However, I'll be happy to throw a few dollars to Morgan Grace. In fact, mostly I've come to only patronize local acts for recording and only patronize non-local acts' performances. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Nooz On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Tom Clark wrote: > How passionate and dedicated is that fan base now that the show has been > cancelled? Talk about milking it... And those of us that are "passionate and dedicated" (or at least "amused and enamoured") have already pulled torrents of each season and archived them on our modified XBoxen. Ooh, Arrested Development is soon to be available online? So what did I pull down ten months ago? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:09:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nooz On 7/26/06, Capuchin wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Tom Clark wrote: > > How passionate and dedicated is that fan base now that the show has been > > cancelled? Talk about milking it... > > And those of us that are "passionate and dedicated" (or at least "amused > and enamoured") have already pulled torrents of each season and archived > them on our modified XBoxen. I think that would be "passionate and dedicated and technologically sophisticated" - I mean, for a lefty type you're making some awfully curious generalizations about most folks' economic and technological capital ;-) But as for how passionate and dedicated the fanbase is (aside from the P&D&TS crowd), I'm guessing DVD sales and rentals would be a good indicator. - --Jeff, who's finally gotten on the AD train courtesy Netflix just this year... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:30:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Nooz >> "On TV, 'Arrested Development' created an >> incredibly passionate and dedicated fan base, >> and we're thrilled to bring this series to the >> global MSN audience," said Rob Bennett, General >> Manager of Video and Entertainment Services for >> MSN. > How passionate and dedicated is that fan base now > that the show has been cancelled? Talk about > milking it... The show's problem was never the passionate and dedicated (most of whom will by the time these contracts are in effect have all three seasons on DVD anyways); it's the failure to reach beyond that dedicated fanbase and while the MSN deal might help with that a tiny, little bit, HDNet and G4 aren't in enough households to do much good as far as that goes. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:37:08 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: MOJO Syd Farewell Issue (http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/gallery/d/14197-1/mojo_lrg.jpg) _http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/news/?y=06&id=0726_ (http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/news/?y=06&id=0726) MOJO Magazine - Syd Barrett Farewell 26 July (also Roger Waters) Resources & Links Discuss this Sep 2006 MOJO on the Forum | Hi Res Cover Scan | Various Syd Barrett Paper Clippings and Magazine Scans | HYGIY Project | The September 2006 edition of the glorious MOJO music magazine published by EMAP features an all-star tribute to Syd Barrett, British psychedeliabs golden child, who sadly died on 7th July 2006. 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Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: uh huh Jill Brand wrote: > Ferris wrote: > "Did I type "Robin" and not "Robyn"? > > I think I did. > > Self-castration process starting in 5 ... 4 ... 3 > ..." > > Well, we all knew that you weren't really a fan. I think it's just the shock we all feel from finding out that Lance Bass is a Homer-sexual. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:19:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: more fallout from CA power outages? Google: DOWN right now?? Or is it just me? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:21:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: uh huh Jeff Dwarf wrote: > I think it's just the shock we all feel from finding > out that Lance Bass is a Homer-sexual. Was THAT what was shocking? I thought the shocker was that he was stooping to date a reality-show star. Oops, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:40:25 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: more fallout from CA power outages? Seems to be working fine... On 7/26/06, Eb wrote: > > Google: DOWN right now?? Or is it just me? > > Eb > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:15:15 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: album covers spoofing album covers Intriguingly, the same page that had Groovy Decay had a group of album covers featuring a large blue circle, but didn';t have Orbital's "The middle of nowhere". James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: uh huh Eb wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > I think it's just the shock we all feel from > > finding out that Lance Bass is a Homer-sexual. > > Was THAT what was shocking? I thought the shocker > was that he was stooping to date a reality-show > star. Well, it is a step down from dating a legendary Greek poet, but if he wants to schtuup to date a reality-show star, hey, it's still better than letting Federline breed. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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