From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #163 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 14 2006 Volume 15 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: syd, dark brown voice ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] RE: Death comes in 11's or 12's, or something like that ["Michael Wells" ] The Feelies playing live, other stuff ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: syd, dark brown voice [2fs ] RE: The Feelies playing live, other stuff ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: dylan tribute - will robyn show up ? ( here's hoping ! ) [Tom Clark <] RE: dylan tribute - will robyn show up ? ( here's hoping ! ) ["Maximilian] Re: best. squid. EVAR!! ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. ["Stacked Crooked" ] RE: Death comes in 11's or 12's, or something like that ["Bachman, Michae] Re: Death comes in 11's or 12's, or something like that [2fs ] Re: Syd's lack of accent [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] interesting article on Syd at AMG [2fs ] Re: Syd's lack of accent ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Syd's lack of accent [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 [Aaron Mandel ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 ["Michael Wells" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:52:15 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: syd, dark brown voice > From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz [... snip talk about misheard lyrics, etc. ...] > .... I guess that's why they call it the blues. Ack. Now I can't get that awful, awful song of the same name out of my head. Now, off to find "Seasons In The Sun" on my iPod so I can distract myself. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:55:41 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Death comes in 11's or 12's, or something like that >I'll never be able to watch "Love Boat" reruns with a dry eye again. I can. Lord knows I'm stoned to the bejeesus whenever "Love Boat" comes on. Six degrees of Robyn: Red might have been most memorable in "The Poseidon Adventure" with...wait for it...Gene Hackman. Michael "so was Stella Stevens....grrrrowl" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:55:50 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: The Feelies playing live, other stuff Definitely worth wasting some time here, and do it quick before it disappears. Better have fat pipes, tho. There are quite a few gems in the list, including a video of The Feelings playing "Crazy Rhythm" live (!). http://www.insurancemovies.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:40:14 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: syd, dark brown voice On 7/13/06, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > > From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz > > [... snip talk about misheard lyrics, etc. ...] > > > .... I guess that's why they call it the blues. > > Ack. Now I can't get that awful, awful song of the same name out of > my head. To make matters worse, the lyrics of THAT song never do really say WHY they call it the blues, do they? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:57:17 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: The Feelies playing live, other stuff - -- "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." is rumored to have mumbled on 13. Juli 2006 15:55:50 -0500 regarding The Feelies playing live, other stuff: > Definitely worth wasting some time here, and do it quick before it > disappears. Better have fat pipes, tho. > > There are quite a few gems in the list, including a video of The > Feelings playing "Crazy Rhythm" live (!). > > http://www.insurancemovies.com/ I'd already seen that on YouTube. Actually that's where *they* take it from. In the page source you can see: http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf?video_id=ammeQSyUF00&l=247&t=OEgsToPDskLFMwsl4ABfpNEtLMIn2OjM" Given that it is Flash, how would I save it locally?? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:30:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: best. squid. EVAR!! On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:13 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > The Piglet Squid (image 1): > Man, those are some creepy looking creatures! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:25:26 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: syd, dark brown voice On 7/13/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > On 7/13/06, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > > > > From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz > > > > [... snip talk about misheard lyrics, etc. ...] > > > > > .... I guess that's why they call it the blues. > > > > Ack. Now I can't get that awful, awful song of the same name out of > > my head. > > > To make matters worse, the lyrics of THAT song never do really say WHY > they > call it the blues, do they? That's why. I guess that's why they call it a moose Antlers on its head and it don't wear no shoes Pulling out rhinos, hanging with Rocky, Stood on the tundra, many miles from Milwaukee And I guess that's why they call it a moose... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:49:21 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: The Feelies playing live, other stuff > Given that it is Flash, how would I save it locally?? I've had some success with this: http://keepvid.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:51:14 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: dylan tribute - will robyn show up ? ( here's hoping ! ) Dylan Sets Album Track List, Inspires NYC Tribute July 13, 2006, 10:50 AM ET Jonathan Cohen, N.Y. Bob Dylan has finalized the track list for his new album, "Modern Times," due Aug. 29 via Columbia. Four of the 10 cuts push the six-minute mark, including the nearly eight-minute "Spirit on the Water" and the nearly nine-minute closer, "Ain't Talkin'." _As previously reported_ (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002652314) , "Modern Times" was recorded earlier this year with Dylan's touring band of bassist Tony Garnier, drummer George G. Receli, guitarists Stu Kimball and Denny Freeman and multi-instrumentalist Donnie Herron. The album will also be available in a special edition with a bonus DVD featuring four additional songs, details of which have yet to be announced. Dylan will support "Modern Times" with his third annual _tour_ (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002764623) of minor league baseball stadiums, which gets underway Aug. 12 in Comstock Park, Mich. Meanwhile, Dylan will be the subject of a star-studded tribute concert to be held Nov. 9 at New York's Avery Fisher Hall. Such artists as Patti Smith, Phil Lesh, Cat Power, Philip Glass, Natalie Merchant and the Black Crowes' Chris and Rich Robinson will each cover one of Dylan's tunes at the event, proceeds from which will benefit the Music for Youth Foundation. Other acts on the bill include Rosanne Cash, Sonic Youth's Lee Ranaldo, Medeski Martin & Wood, Gov't Mule and Al Kooper and the Funky Faculty. Here is the track list for "Modern Times": "Thunder on the Mountain" "Spirit on the Water" "Rollin' and Tumblin'" "When the Deal Goes Down" "Someday Baby" "Workingman's Blues #2" "Beyond the Horizon" "Nettie Moore" "The Levee's Gonna Break" "Ain't Talkin'" _http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002838861 _ (http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002838861) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:33:16 -0800 From: "randalljr" Subject: Re: best. squid. EVAR!! From: "Tom Clark" >> The Piglet Squid (image 1): >> Is that really a squid? wowza. Recommended Injun Movies 1. Skins 2. Dance Me Outside 3. Pow Wow Highway 4. Smoke Signals 5. Sioux City Vince PS -Dance Me Outside is probably the best. Hard to find though. Independent flick made out of Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:18:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: dylan tribute - will robyn show up ? ( here's hoping ! ) On Jul 13, 2006, at 6:51 PM, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > Meanwhile, Dylan will be the subject of a star-studded tribute > concert to be > held Nov. 9 at New York's Avery Fisher Hall. Such artists as Patti > Smith, > Phil Lesh, Cat Power, Philip Glass, Natalie Merchant and the Black > Crowes' > Chris and Rich Robinson will each cover one of Dylan's tunes at > the event, > proceeds from which will benefit the Music for Youth Foundation. Wow, that might even be worth flying in for. Especially if Robyn appears (and does "Tangled..."). - -tc, wondering how the Philip Glass track would sound. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:39:53 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: dylan tribute - will robyn show up ? ( here's hoping ! ) >From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com >Subject: dylan tribute - will robyn show up ? ( here's hoping ! ) >Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:51:14 EDT >Dylan Sets Album Track List, Inspires NYC Tribute >Meanwhile, Dylan will be the subject of a star-studded tribute concert to >be >held Nov. 9 at New York's Avery Fisher Hall. Such artists as Patti Smith, >Phil Lesh, Cat Power, Philip Glass, Natalie Merchant and the Black Crowes' >Chris and Rich Robinson will each cover one of Dylan's tunes at the event, >proceeds from which will benefit the Music for Youth Foundation. > >Other acts on the bill include Rosanne Cash, Sonic Youth's Lee Ranaldo, >Medeski Martin & Wood, Gov't Mule and Al Kooper and the Funky Faculty. Wow, that's one to see(Robyn or no Robyn)! Max ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:42:39 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: best. squid. EVAR!! >From: "randalljr" >Subject: Re: best. squid. EVAR!! >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:33:16 -0800 > >Recommended Injun Movies >3. Pow Wow Highway I remember really enjoying this, if I am not mistaken it was a Handmade film. Almost makes up for Shanghai Surprise. A real sleeper but a good one. Max ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:50:34 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. i'll chime in with "background". knew what it meant from context, but always found it an odd choice. i'll also chime in with a story from a bus ride i took tonight. i was sitting against one window in the back seat. the bus had been stopped for a minute or two to unload a wheelchair passenger, when... BLACK DUDE sitting against the other window: Oh, *come on* with the handicaps. ME: [chuckling] BLACK DUDE's GIRLFRIEND: This man over here is hella crackin' up. ME: [hella crackin' up] BLACK DUDE: I got places to be! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:07:44 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Death comes in 11's or 12's, or something like that >>I'll never be able to watch "Love Boat" reruns with a dry eye again. Michael "Don't call me H.G." Wells came back with: >I can. Lord knows I'm stoned to the bejeesus whenever "Love Boat" comes >on. >Six degrees of Robyn: Red might have been most memorable in "The >Poseidon Adventure" with...wait for it...Gene Hackman. >Michael "so was Stella Stevens....grrrrowl" Wells Yes, a nice grrrrowl for Stella from me also. For more Stella grrrrowls, check out "The Ballad of Cable Hogue". Sam Peckinpah considered it his favorite movie that he made. It finally got released on DVD earlier this year. Stella is absolutely radiant in it, the best role she ever got and she should have been nominated for an Oscar for it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:20:04 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Death comes in 11's or 12's, or something like that On 7/14/06, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > > Yes, a nice grrrrowl for Stella from me also. For more Stella grrrrowls, > check out "The Ballad of Cable Hogue". Sam Peckinpah considered it his > favorite > movie that he made. It finally got released on DVD earlier this year. > Stella > is absolutely radiant in it, the best role she ever got and she should > have been > nominated for an Oscar for it. Plus John Cale borrowed the title for a song. So there. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:37:09 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: best. new tunes. EVAR!! >The Piglet Squid (image 1): Very cool shots, thanks for the link. I put that crab one up as background but the worms kept freaking me out. Stewart was dead-on about The Late B.P. Helium's tunes; I'm currently enjoying his fresh Toronto show and it is *kick ass*. Might have to head down to Lollapalooza after all (Of Montreal, Secret Machines...). Michael "maybe he could just come play my house instead" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:58:52 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Syd's lack of accent Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 12 2006 Volume 15 : Number 161 > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Christopher Gross wrote: >> Syd Barrett, 60. > > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:49:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Capuchin > Subject: Re: reap > So I just got in from having lunch with my father (a once-a-year rarity -- > Burgerville, usually) and sat down at the computer and heard "If It's In > You" playing because I left my music player on random. Lately, I've been > skipping anything that didn't perfectly suit my mood and that's rarely > been Syd. But for some reason I thought, "This is really great." And I > turned off the random so that it'll play straight through starting here in > my collection. > Then I read this message from Chris. > And now "Late Night" is playing and as I sat thinking about what to write > next, Syd sang "Inside me I feel alone and unreal". > I'm just going to sit here for a little while, listening. * "And the way you look will always be a very special thing to me". > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:58:05 -0700 > From: Eb > Subject: re: Syd > Found it interesting that, in eulogy, David Bowie claims Syd is the > first person besides Anthony Newley whom he ever heard sing pop/rock > with a British accent. * That's right. > Does Syd really deserve this kind of credit? * Yes. > Maybe the Beatles didn't > sing with much accent, * "Take KURR beWURR". You can almost always hear a L'pool vowel in a Beatles song, specially when they play live. What Bowie means is singing in Received Pronunciation. Kevin Ayers and Robert Wyatt were two other early exponents of the art. > but I think you can hear an accent in the young Stones * No, Jagger always attempted to sing like Jimmy Reed or Chuck Berry. Probably still does. "My dear Lady Anne, I've done what I can" is a deliberately camped-up upper-class accent. and the Kinks, among others.... * That's an interesting one. I think that Ray has too much of a Muswell Hill accent to be definitely RP. Whaddya think, Stewart? "On Regent's Street, or Leicester Squaearr" is also a deliberate upper class piss take. > Or how about Herman's Hermits, for pete's sake? Eb, we're talking about art today, not "She's a must to avoid". You might Just as well say that Joe Brown and the Bruvvers sing in London accents, which they do. But the key is that it's normal English grammar school boys singing about normal English grammar school preoccupations like love, literature, gnomes and riverbanks. - - Mike Godwin PS Joseph, my 4-year-old grandson, really likes my version of "The Scarecrow". Only member of my family ever to show an interest in the works of RKB. PPS On "The laughing gnome" Bowie sounds noticeably like Anthony Newley. I always thought it was accidental, but as usual with Bowie, it turns out to have been deliberate. n.p. "Singing singing buttercups and whatnots: and it's not to buy such perishing wear that I am slogging it to Strawberry Fair, ri fol ri fol tol de riddle I do, ri fol ri fol tol de riddle dee" (first single I ever bought - maybe it was the accent that won me over!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:18:48 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: interesting article on Syd at AMG Although he's a bit wrong about odd phrase lengths being "unheard of" in popular music at the time...there's this little band from Liverpool that had done quite a bit of it... Has anyone heard any statement from Robyn on Syd's death? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:28:53 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Syd's lack of accent On 7/14/06, hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > > > PPS On "The laughing gnome" Bowie sounds noticeably like Anthony > Newley. I always thought it was accidental, but as usual with Bowie, it > turns out to have been deliberate. I just heard this infamous tune for the first time earlier this year. Wow. At this remove it's pretty entertaining, but I can see why Bowie wanted to bury it when he became all "serious artist-y". Can't see why he wouldn't go ahead and embrace it now... it's an example of pretty adept showmanship. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:40:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Syd's lack of accent On 7/14/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > On 7/14/06, hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > > > > > > PPS On "The laughing gnome" Bowie sounds noticeably like Anthony > > Newley. I always thought it was accidental, but as usual with Bowie, it > > turns out to have been deliberate. > > > I just heard this infamous tune for the first time earlier this > year. Wow. > At this remove it's pretty entertaining, but I can see why Bowie wanted to > bury it when he became all "serious artist-y". That's not it at all: Bowie was threatened by factions of the Human Gnome Project, whose goal is to map all the garden gnomes of the world. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:39:48 -0400 > From: The Great Quail > Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. > > Wait, let me get this straight, Jeffrey -- > > You are *critiquing* the merit of imaginary lyrics we *thought* we heard > in a Kinks song? The author is dead, dude. Just go with it. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:14:32 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 On 7/14/06, Aaron Mandel wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:39:48 -0400 > > From: The Great Quail > > Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. > > > > Wait, let me get this straight, Jeffrey -- > > > > You are *critiquing* the merit of imaginary lyrics we *thought* we heard > > in a Kinks song? > > The author is dead, dude. Just go with it. Wait... Jeffrey's dead? Or Ray Davies (in which case I guess my plans for Sunday just cleared up)? Oh, wait. You meant The Author. Yep, deader than your average doornail. Never mind. ;-) - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:18:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 On 7/14/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > On 7/14/06, Aaron Mandel wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:39:48 -0400 > > > From: The Great Quail > > > Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. > > > > > > Wait, let me get this straight, Jeffrey -- > > > > > > You are *critiquing* the merit of imaginary lyrics we *thought* we > heard > > > in a Kinks song? > > > > The author is dead, dude. Just go with it. > > > Wait... Jeffrey's dead? Or Ray Davies (in which case I guess my plans for > Sunday just cleared up)? No - he meant Foucault - Jeffrey Foucault. He got decapitated by a pendulum. By Opus Dei. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:44:14 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 >No - he meant Foucault - Jeffrey Foucault. He got decapitated by a pendulum. What a terrible joke. Mr. Foucault's 2006 album is pretty pleasant, though - produced by Bo Ramsey. Check out www.jeffreyfoucault.com for more. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:27:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #162 On 7/14/06, Michael Wells wrote: > > >No - he meant Foucault - Jeffrey Foucault. He got decapitated by a > pendulum. > > > What a terrible joke. Ah yes - but kind of inevitable, once you get "death of the author" and the coincidence of my sharing a first name with the singing Foucault...along with the Eco novel... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #163 ********************************