From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #161 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 12 2006 Volume 15 : Number 161 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ? [2fs ] Stuck Inside a Mobile Home with the Bent-Fist Blues Again [2fs ] in happier Reap news.... [Jeff Dwarf ] reaps ahoy [Eb ] re: Syd [Eb ] re: Syd [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Syd [The Great Quail ] RE: Syd ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Syd ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Syd [Tom Clark ] Misheard lyrics, etc. [Eb ] Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:52:21 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: ? On 7/11/06, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Eb wrote: > > > Any notable "reaps" today? Didn't get online until just now. > > > > Just some old burnout. Bush died? Holiday! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:57:03 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Stuck Inside a Mobile Home with the Bent-Fist Blues Again On 7/11/06, Eb wrote: > > > > Plus the bit about beats or rhythms or whatever - which as far as I > > can tell > > is total bullshit... > > You mean the section around page 157, about adopting Lonnie Johnson's > revelatory playing method based on three's rather than two's? Yeah, I > had a very difficult time parsing that too. That's the part I meant, yeah. Maybe this is just > Dylan's way of rationalizing that "upsinging" which all the concert > traders complain about. ;) Qu'est-ce que fuck? I googled "upsinging" and all the entries take it as given that everyone knows what that means... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) From: JBJ Subject: Re: Stuck Inside a Mobile Home with the Bent-Fist Blues Again On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 2fs wrote: > Qu'est-ce que fuck? I googled "upsinging" and all the entries take it as > given that everyone knows what that means... http://tinyurl.com/q9nuy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:49:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: reap On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Christopher Gross wrote: > Syd Barrett, 60. So I just got in from having lunch with my father (a once-a-year rarity -- Burgerville, usually) and sat down at the computer and heard "If It's In You" playing because I left my music player on random. Lately, I've been skipping anything that didn't perfectly suit my mood and that's rarely been Syd. But for some reason I thought, "This is really great." And I turned off the random so that it'll play straight through starting here in my collection. Then I read this message from Chris. And now "Late Night" is playing and as I sat thinking about what to write next, Syd sang "Inside me I feel alone and unreal". I'm just going to sit here for a little while, listening. J. Trip to heave and ho... - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:21:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: in happier Reap news.... Most-wanted Chechen dies in explosion Shamil Basayev was architect behind 2004 Beslan school siege that killed 331 "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:07:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reaps ahoy http://baltimore.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=10839 Tony and Emmy Award-winning actor Barnard Hughes, 90, died today at 4:45 PM at New York Presbyterian Hospital after a brief illness. Hughes was born in Bedford Hills, NY, on July 16, 1915, the son of Owen and Madge Hughes. [clip] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:58:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: Syd Found it interesting that, in eulogy, David Bowie claims Syd is the first person besides Anthony Newley whom he ever heard sing pop/rock with a British accent. Does Syd really deserve this kind of credit? Maybe the Beatles didn't sing with much accent, but I think you can hear an accent in the young Stones and the Kinks, among others.... Or how about Herman's Hermits, for pete's sake? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: re: Syd Eb wrote: > Found it interesting that, in eulogy, David Bowie > claims Syd is the first person besides Anthony > Newley whom he ever heard sing pop/rock > with a British accent. > > Does Syd really deserve this kind of credit? Maybe > the Beatles didn't sing with much accent, but I > think you can hear an accent in the young Stones > and the Kinks, among others.... Or how > about Herman's Hermits, for pete's sake? Stones singing with British accents? But he's almost assuredly wrong, but that's what happens when you call people to get spontaneous reactions: they get their past discombobulated, especially if they did as many drugs as Bowie did. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:30:00 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues interesting observation. i don't generally begin paying attention to lyrics until after i've listened to an album several times, so i wouldn't have noticed (though the *vocals* are fabulous). my favorite line concerning the album: "And who knew that Bruce Springsteen would be the one to remind American record buyers they need more tuba in their lives?" though i'm quite itching to, i'm afraid to listen to the album again, actually, 'cause i'm sure i won't like it as much; and i want to remember the euphoria i felt upon first listen for a little while longer... if i had to guess, i'd say that when all is said and done, *Twin Cinema* will end up being my favourite album of the decade. but i've got to believe this one'll at least be in the top-ten. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Vegetable Man Does anyone know where I can find the PF version of "VM" for download? Or even, I suppose, e-mail it to me? "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:41:07 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Syd >> Found it interesting that, in eulogy, David Bowie >> claims Syd is the first person besides Anthony >> Newley whom he ever heard sing pop/rock >> with a British accent. > But he's almost assuredly wrong.... Well, if the quote is accurate, Bowie is making a subjective statement. - --Q. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:33:36 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Syd .02, FWIW... I guess I like music more from the people in whom Syd seems to live on in (Robyn) or whom he had a profound effect on (Waters) more so than his own stuff. It's not that I don't like his original stuff, I most certainly do...but not in the same way. It was something affecting and enjoyable, now viewed from a distance of many years. For my money Syd had checked out some time ago, and there's not really a sense of any loss now on my end. That's not meant to sound callous, btw. I can think of a lot of other people I'd rather have seen go instead. Michael "let's start right here in Washington" Wells Np. Some very spring-like Delius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:29:33 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Syd On 7/11/06, Eb wrote: > > Found it interesting that, in eulogy, David Bowie claims Syd is the > first person besides Anthony Newley whom he ever heard sing pop/rock > with a British accent. I was disappointed that he signed off with a "Crazy Diamond" reference. As expected, the media at large responded more by playing post-Barrett Floyd's tribute to him, but I woulda thought Bowie could do better... nice that he acknowledged the debt, though. Overally I was suprised at how much notice was taken by the media at large. I forget how huge Floyd is because they don't much interest me past the Syd years, and most casual Floyd fans don't know the Syd stuff other than the tributes and references, in my experience. What's really kind of sad is that I listened to everything Syd ever committed to tape yesterday, and it was woefully short. Beautiful, but way too short. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:45:00 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Syd On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:33 AM, Michael Wells wrote: > I guess I like music more from the people in whom Syd seems to live on > in (Robyn) or whom he had a profound effect on (Waters) more so > than his > own stuff. It's not that I don't like his original stuff, I most > certainly do...but not in the same way. It was something affecting and > enjoyable, now viewed from a distance of many years. For my money Syd > had checked out some time ago, and there's not really a sense of any > loss now on my end. Pretty much sums up my feelings too. From a larger perspective it's always (well, usually) sad when someone dies, but it's not like Syd had much to contribute nowadays. I'm just left wondering about his legacy now. And will his gravesite become the Mecca that Jim Morrison's is? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:12:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Misheard lyrics, etc. I just discovered that I've always heard one of the Kinks' biggest hits wrong. "I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said, 'Lola.'" I always thought it was a DEADPAN voice. And frankly, I like my lyric miles better. How can a voice have a color? And wouldn't someone giving a false name say it in a "deadpan" voice? Bleh. I'm going to send an angry letter to Parliament, as soon as I finish this post. Did anyone ever see CNN do a story on Syd yesterday? I flicked to the channel off and on, and didn't even see his death in the crawl. The *website* featured the story, but.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:01:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics, etc. On 7/12/06, Eb wrote: > > I just discovered that I've always heard one of the Kinks' biggest > hits wrong. > > "I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said, 'Lola.'" > > I always thought it was a DEADPAN voice. > > And frankly, I like my lyric miles better. How can a voice have a > color? It's metaphoric. Yeesh. (And Davies rarely relies upon metaphor - but when he does, he makes it work.) Anyway: it's rich, thick...and, say, rather lower in the alto range than expected. I've always thought that's a wonderful line - serving double-duty to describe the common perception of sexiness in a purring, lower feminine voice - as well as the obvious other reasons Lola's voice might tend below a middle C. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #161 ********************************