From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #160 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 11 2006 Volume 15 : Number 160 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Agriculture and Fisheries ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] My name is "Eb", and I've got those Bare-Ass Blues ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues [2fs ] Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues [Eb ] reap [Christopher Gross ] REAP: Syd Barrett [The Great Quail ] Reap [FSThomas ] Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Reap [Stony ] REAP ["Barbara Gellert" ] Re: Repulsion ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] Oh, man ["Marc Holden" ] ? [Eb ] Re: ? [Tom Clark ] Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:24:46 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Agriculture and Fisheries one time at band camp, JBJ (jbj@tuthorse.net) said: >>On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: >>>PS Is this Susanna Hoffs and Matthew Sweet album any good? Are the >>>Pipettes as good as the guy in the Independent claims? >>I bought the Hoffs/Sweet covers cd. Nothing on there is stellar, but it is >>all pretty good. I rated most songs either 3's or 4's in my little iTunes >>program. I think the best song on there is "Cinnamon Girl". woj >it's a really fun and enjoyable listen, i'd say. nothing revolutionary >but all solid performances. my favorite is the first third of "who >knows where the time goes?": hoffs' voice is surprisingly perfect for >the song and the beginning is transcendent. sweet's backing vocals >drags the song down after that, alas. but it's still done well >musically. They picked out a nice group of songs and covered them well. I am surprised it took Susanna this long to come up with another covers effort, as she was on the covers project that the paisley underground did from 1984, titled Rainy Day. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:33:12 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap June Allyson http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060710/ap_en_mo/obit_june_allyson I saw one of the strangest films I've seen last night: "Black Moon" (Louis Malle, 1975). Anyone else seen this? I guess it's often described as being "Alice in Wonderland"-esque, and this is a fair comparison. Except this "Alice" is much more passive and puzzled, rather than prim and proper. If you'd like a movie with only a few paragraphs of dialogue, which includes features such a burly unicorn, a talking rat, crawling insects, men gunning down women firing-squad style, sheep, a lady who requires breast-feeding from pretty girls who aren't lactating, and naked children running around...check out this film. I don't know if the film had any point beyond being a "head flick," but I enjoyed its imagery and cinematography anyway. I particularly enjoyed the sequence with "Alice" hearing tinkling piano in a deserted (?) house and creeping up the stairs to investigate...only to find a solitary cat methodically skipping up and down the keyboard. Loved that! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:58:40 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap On Jul 10, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Eb wrote: > I saw one of the strangest films I've seen last night: "Black > Moon" (Louis Malle, 1975). Anyone else seen this? I guess it's > often described as being "Alice in Wonderland"-esque, and this is a > fair comparison. Except this "Alice" is much more passive and > puzzled, rather than prim and proper. If you'd like a movie with > only a few paragraphs of dialogue, which includes features such a > burly unicorn, a talking rat, crawling insects, men gunning down > women firing-squad style, sheep, a lady who requires breast-feeding > from pretty girls who aren't lactating, and naked children running > around...check out this film. I don't know if the film had any > point beyond being a "head flick," but I enjoyed its imagery and > cinematography anyway. I particularly enjoyed the sequence with > "Alice" hearing tinkling piano in a deserted (?) house and creeping > up the stairs to investigate...only to find a solitary cat > methodically skipping up and down the keyboard. Loved that! Why do people insist on investigating strange noises in a creepy house? I never understood that. Speaking of weird old movies, I just watched Roman Polanski's 1965 "Repulsion" with Catherine Deneuve. She plays a young working woman in London who lives with her sister and goes from just withdrawn and introverted to completely insane over a one week period when her sister leaves for vacation. A little slow at first, but Deneuve does a good job with the role. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:35:37 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: My name is "Eb", and I've got those Bare-Ass Blues the bumbershoot schedule has been released, and would you believe that the two bands i'm most eager to see -- the new pornos and dengue fever -- are slotted opposite each other? that is fucked! but on the good side, this editors album kicks nineteen asses -- maybe more. sounds a bit like interpol (is it just me, or do a lot of bands sound like interpol?), but i think i like them even better than i do interpol. but this friggin' *springsteen* record is a stone-cold *miracle*. how did this happen? i've only listened to it once, so maybe my opinion will eventually become tempered. but at this current moment in time, i'm sayin' it's my favourite album of the decade! again i ask: how did this happen? and in a *close*-to-miraculous development, criterion will be releasing *Kicking And Screaming* next month. you're fuckin'-a right! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:53:49 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got those Bare-Ass Blues On 7/10/06, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > (is it just me, or do a lot of bands > sound like interpol?), At first it was just transitive property (bands whose sounds pointed to a similar postpunk lineage to Interpol's), but now I fear that, yes, a lot of bands sound like Interpol. What I've heard from the Editors indicates that they probably deserve the Joy Division comparison more than Interpol does, which means they're probably better than most of the field. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:08:37 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fish, kingfishers, and Alec Guinness > > Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:30:02 -0400 >> From: The Great Quail >> Subject: Go Fish! >> Hey, Fegs! >> I am in the weird position of making a mixed tape filled with songs about >> fishing -- rock, pop, folk. I already have Dan Bern's "Fishing with Grandpa" >> and Primus' "John the Fisherman." >> Any suggestions? Please keep in mind, these are songs about *fishing,* not >> fish in general. >> Thanks! >> - --Quail > >* How about 'Gone Fishing' by the great Matt Piucci and some other guy? > >* 'Shrimpboats is a-coming there's dancing tonight' by Rosemary Clooney(?). > >* 'Little boy fishing from the end of a pier, come fish bite fish swim >around here' - no idea what it's called or who it's by... > >* The 2 essential versions of 'Catfish Blues' are by Muddy Waters and >Jimi Hendrix. And of course the Hendrix one mutated into Voodoo Child. > >> Donovan-Three King Fishers > >* No, that's about birds called kingfishers (one word)! We only have >one kind in England, but there are three if not four kinds in India. Do >you New World and Antipodean birders have kingfishers or not? we do here, definitely - the Australian kingfisher looks quite similar to its UK cousin, though maybe slightly larger. The best known member of the kingfisher species downunder isn't found in NZ, though, only in OZ - the kookaburra. Another song, BTW, the trad "When the boat comes in", or as people attempting to replicate the TV series theme say "when tha bwut coomzin" >PPS I'm going off those Alec Guinness films in a big way - couldn't >watch "The Card" all the way through this afternoon, and squirmed with >embarrassment through the one where he became the captain of a pier. >"The man in the white suit" still stands up, however. "The Lavender Hill Mob" and "The Ladykillers" (the original, of course) are both still fine, though dated. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:56:06 -0700 From: Eb Subject: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues Cracked Stoked: > but on the good side, this editors album kicks nineteen asses -- maybe > more Not impressed with them. >but this friggin' *springsteen* record is a stone-cold *miracle*. how did > this happen? i've only listened to it once, so maybe my opinion will > eventually become tempered. but at this current moment in time, > i'm sayin' > it's my favourite album of the decade! again i ask: how did this > happen? You're talking about the Seeger album, I assume? That one didn't quite grab me. It's the best SOUNDING Springsteen album in eons. Great band, great raw production. But at the same time, the band -- who could work wonderfully with different material - -- detracts from the songwriting. An album like this should focus the listener on the impact of the words, and instead you're just seduced by the raucous arrangements. So...none of the lyrical perspective "sticks," and it all seems a bit shallow in the end. Like just one big squallin' hootenanny. Simply cutting a few musicians might have made a world of difference to me. "Repulsion" is a fantastic film. And speaking of NOT-fantastic films, I fiiiiiiinally saw "The Passion of the Christ" over the weekend. U-G- H. I always thought the jokes about the film's unrelenting blood and torture were just a comic exaggeration. No such luck. And since I was already familiar with the original story -- I've seen "Jesus Christ Superstar" twice, after all -- I wondered what happened to all the musical numbers. Eb currently beeping on my fresh-discovery radar: Aloha, Gang Gang Dance, Hella, Hot Chip, Kelley Stoltz, the Lylas, My Latest Novel, Patty Waters, Phoenix, Pipes You See Pipes You Dont, Richard Swift, Saxon Shore, Shoplifting, They Shoot Horses Dont They ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:46:28 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues On 7/10/06, Eb wrote: > > > "Repulsion" is a fantastic film. And speaking of NOT-fantastic films, > I fiiiiiiinally saw "The Passion of the Christ" over the weekend. The depths of your masochism impress me. U-G- > H. I always thought the jokes about the film's unrelenting blood and > torture were just a comic exaggeration. No such luck. And since I was > already familiar with the original story -- I've seen "Jesus Christ > Superstar" twice, after all -- I wondered what happened to all the > musical numbers. Well, there's a challenge for somebody: write tunes for PotC ("Potsie"? Wasn't he some dork from Happy Days?). Someone has, of course, already written songs for a musical version of Silence of the Lambs. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:46:07 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues 2fs wrote: >> "Repulsion" is a fantastic film. And speaking of NOT-fantastic films, >> I fiiiiiiinally saw "The Passion of the Christ" over the weekend. > > The depths of your masochism impress me. Well, in recent weeks, I've seen the #1 *and* #2 films on Ebert/ Roeper's Worst of 2005 list: "Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo" and "Dirty Love." So...a Jesus slasher flick was a cakewalk after those cinematic minefields. What's more, PotC wasn't nearly as long as I expected -- for some reason, I thought it was one of those three-hour monstrosities. (Actually, it *should* have been three hours -- then maybe the plot could have included more than the tiniest splash of, like, cool values Jesus preached and stuff. I gather he said something or other about loving your enemies? Huh.) I keep hearing talk about what a gorgeous beauty Monica Bellucci is, but even after seeing "The Brothers Grimm" and "Passion" in recent weeks, I still couldn't pick her face out of a lineup. Uhh...dark hair? BTW, I hadn't heard of that Alec Guinness film which Mike (?) mentioned..."The Card." I'll have to keep an eye out for that. Though I gather it's more commonly known as "The Promoter"? In other news, I'm finally getting around to reading the Bob Dylan autobiography. Loving how it so perfectly sustains Dylan's style of raising more questions than he answers. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:48:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: reap Syd Barrett, 60. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5169344.stm ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:58:56 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: REAP: Syd Barrett http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5169344.stm - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:59:34 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Reap Syd Barrett?!? http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/obituary/0,,1817952,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:16:10 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues On 7/10/06, Eb wrote: > > In other news, I'm finally getting around to reading the Bob Dylan > autobiography. Loving how it so perfectly sustains Dylan's style of > raising more questions than he answers. Ah. Let us know if you can figure out what he's talking about when he invents a revolutionary new style of guitar playing and then forgets about it. That's been bugging me for more than a year now. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:33:55 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues On 7/11/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > On 7/10/06, Eb wrote: > > > > In other news, I'm finally getting around to reading the Bob Dylan > > autobiography. Loving how it so perfectly sustains Dylan's style of > > raising more questions than he answers. > > > Ah. Let us know if you can figure out what he's talking about when he > invents a revolutionary new style of guitar playing and then forgets about > it. That's been bugging me for more than a year now. Plus the bit about beats or rhythms or whatever - which as far as I can tell is total bullshit... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:29:03 +1000 (EST) From: Stony Subject: Reap Syd. http://www.nme.com/news/pink-floyd/23570 This truly makes me sadder than I can express. There's nothing in the future and there's nothing in the past. There is only this one moment and you gotta make it last. -Robyn Hitchcock - --------------------------------- ____________________________________________________ - --------------------------------- On Yahoo!7 24: Watch it from 9.30pm on Thursdays on Seven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:40:30 -0400 From: "Barbara Gellert" Subject: REAP Syd Barrett, age 60. Barbara Gellert bibigellert@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:46:56 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Repulsion Tom Clark says: > Speaking of weird old movies, I just watched Roman Polanski's 1965 > "Repulsion" with Catherine Deneuve. I just rewatched that about two weeks ago. I hadn't seen it on DVD; it was kind of sad to find the picture and the audio in pretty poor shape. But even so, it's stayed eerie. Okay, dumb question - I know how Feg List loves those - but what determines the country associated with a film? The funding? I actually looked up "Repulsion" after I watched it because I wasn't sure whether it is considered a UK film (it is.) xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:19:29 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Oh, man Syd Barrett, wow. I'm really upset to see this one, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:06:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: ? Any notable "reaps" today? Didn't get online until just now. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:50:10 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: ? On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Eb wrote: > Any notable "reaps" today? Didn't get online until just now. > Just some old burnout. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:27:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: [My name is "Eb"] re: Bare-Ass Blues 2fs wrote: >> Ah. Let us know if you can figure out what he's talking about >> when he >> invents a revolutionary new style of guitar playing and then >> forgets about >> it. That's been bugging me for more than a year now. > > Plus the bit about beats or rhythms or whatever - which as far as I > can tell > is total bullshit... You mean the section around page 157, about adopting Lonnie Johnson's revelatory playing method based on three's rather than two's? Yeah, I had a very difficult time parsing that too. Maybe this is just Dylan's way of rationalizing that "upsinging" which all the concert traders complain about. ;) Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Okay, dumb question - I know how Feg List loves those - but what > determines the country associated with a film? The funding? Mmm...yes. It seems to be more about the production company than the director, setting or cast. Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #160 ********************************