From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #152 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, July 1 2006 Volume 15 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Jenny Lives With Eric And Martin [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Lou Reed redux [The Great Quail ] RE: Lou Reed redux ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Plush Nautiloids [FSThomas ] Re: Plush Nautiloids: It gets better! ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Lou Reed redux ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] RE: Lou Reed redux ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Lou Reed redux [2fs ] Re: Lou Reed redux [Eb ] Not really a reap, but still of existential importance [Eb ] RE: European Ogopogo? ["michael wells" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #151 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #151 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Grant-Lee Phillips (9.5% RH Content) ["m swedene" ] reap [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:23:30 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > > * Could you amplify, please? I was taught that "alright" was just a > misspelling. Not if you use it as a near-synonym for 'indeed': "It's a fine day, alright." > And incidentally I have the same problem with "under way". Surely it's > "under weigh" (referring to weighing anchor)? Whaddya think, Stewart, > you easy-going liberal? But you can be underweigh without being underway: "UNDERWAY.-- A ship beginning to move under canvas after her anchor is started; some have written this underweigh, but improperly. A ship is underweigh when she has weighed her anchor; she may be with or without canvas, or hove to. As soon as she gathers way she is underway. This is a moot point with old seamen." -- from Admiral Smyth's "Sailor's Word Book," (edition revised by Admiral Sir E. Belcher, 1867) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:01:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith On 6/30/06, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > > > But you can be underweigh without being underway: > > "UNDERWAY.-- A ship beginning to move under canvas after her anchor is > started; some have written this underweigh, but improperly. A ship is > underweigh when she has weighed her anchor; she may be with or without > canvas, or hove to. As soon as she gathers way she is underway. This is > a moot point with old seamen." > -- from Admiral Smyth's "Sailor's Word Book," > (edition revised by Admiral Sir E. Belcher, 1867) Admiral Smyth? He's a known plagiarist. This passage is taken word for word from Sir Albert Wanker's "The Crusty Old Seamen's Handbook." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:26:37 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Jenny Lives With Eric And Martin Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 30 2006 Volume 15 : Number 151 > > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:04:28 -0700 (PDT) > hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: >> PS Explanation of "Anita lives with Brian and Keith" >> next week... > > From: Jeff Dwarf > It's not just Pallenberg, Jones, and Richard[s]? * Yes it is, but it started as a joke about a book called "Jenny lives with Eric and Martin" which was denounced by the Thatcher regime as gay propaganda . This was originally part of a longer posting in which I tried to explain why libraries were at one time quite happy to supply a list of 100 books in "The Canon" - Jane Austen, James Joyce, Nathaniel Hawthorne etc - but gave up doing so after they were charged with elitism and sexism. - - Mike Godwin n.p. John Fogerty "Sea Cruise" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:45:21 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux Michael "Decloaking for Lou" Sweeney writes, > Although I was a big fan of "The Blue Mask," I probably rate "Berlin" and > "Songs For 'Drella" (and, songwise, the singular "Street Hassle") as my > faves (for taste reference)... Yeah, all really good ones! I *love* "Drella." Took me half a year to notice the ghostly Warhol on the cover. I am also a big fan of "Legendary Hearts," and I have a real serious soft spot for "New Sensations" and even "Mistrial," as they came out around the time I began getting into Lou. > and I absolutely adore "Ecstasy" as an > unexpected late-Lou equivalent of Dylan's "Time out of Mind." I really like about half the songs, and the other half leave me cold. I think "Set the Twilight Reeling" scores better for general consistency, for me. But "Raven?" Ugh! It's a lot cheesier than it should be. And the last live album, "Animal Serenade," was also a let-down. (Compared to the superlative "Perfect Night.") - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:44:51 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Lou Reed redux Michael "Decloaking for Lou" Sweeney writes, >> Although I was a big fan of "The Blue Mask," I probably rate "Berlin" and >> "Songs For 'Drella" (and, songwise, the singular "Street Hassle") as my >> faves (for taste reference)... TGQ: >Yeah, all really good ones! I *love* "Drella." Took me half a year to notice >the ghostly Warhol on the cover. >I am also a big fan of "Legendary Hearts," and I have a real serious soft >spot for "New Sensations" and even "Mistrial," as they came out around the >time I began getting into Lou. I prefer some of the songs on "Legendary Hearts" even over those on "The Blue Mask", however I miss the pyrotechnics between Reed and Quine that TBM had. Even so, LH is one of my favorites from Lou. >> and I absolutely adore "Ecstasy" as an >> unexpected late-Lou equivalent of Dylan's "Time out of Mind." >I really like about half the songs, and the other half leave me cold. I >think "Set the Twilight Reeling" scores better for general consistency, for >me. But "Raven?" Ugh! It's a lot cheesier than it should be. And the last >live album, "Animal Serenade," was also a let-down. (Compared to the >superlative "Perfect Night.") After "Drella" which I love as well, the only one I listened to much after I bought it was "Magic and Loss". I bought "Ecstasy" and "Set the Twilight Reeling" but they didn't play them more than a couple of times. Michael B. NP Green on Red - Gas Food Lodging/Green On Red ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:14:29 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Plush Nautiloids On 6/30/06, FSThomas wrote: > > > Whatever dpns means. > > [Knitty's list of standard abbreviations and techniques can be found here > ] > http://knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/patterns.html#ksbbb Or if you carnt be arsed, they'd be "double pointed needles". Can't knit nautiloids without 'em. Apparently. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:23:13 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Plush Nautiloids Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > On 6/30/06, FSThomas wrote: >> >> Whatever dpns means. >> >> [Knitty's list of standard abbreviations and techniques can be found here >> ] >> > > http://knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/patterns.html#ksbbb > > Or if you carnt be arsed, they'd be "double pointed needles". Can't knit > nautiloids without 'em. Apparently. Much less shoot quality smack. - -f. /wonders if he said that with his "outside" voice. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:28:21 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Plush Nautiloids: It gets better! And somthing to look forward to: she's gonna post instructions for knitting Trilobites today! http://blog.loxosceles.org/knitting_or_crafts/ Scroll down and note that she's alread created a pattern for the newly discovered "hairy lobster" that Michael Wells and Sumiko posted to the feglist a few months back. Someone needs to get this chick an RH compilation, stat. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:37:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux The Great Quail wrote: > I am also a big fan of "Legendary Hearts," and I have a real > serious soft > spot for "New Sensations" and even "Mistrial," as they came out > around the > time I began getting into Lou. I recalled being blah about Legendary Hearts, and recently re-played it and enjoyed it a lot more than I remembered. On the other hand, I don't even own the other two. In fact, I bought New Sensations and traded it back. A late-night "Classic SNL" episodes a few weeks back was a '80s episode where Lou san "I Love You Suzanne" and "The Original Rapper." Not exactly my first choice for a past era to see Lou perform. I'm almost always "thumbs up" about a documentary if the subject interests me enough to watch it, but I saw a documentary last night called "Tell Them Who You Are" about Haskell Wexler which was strikingly lousy and unsatisfying. Thanks for showing us your home videos, Mark. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:04:13 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux On 6/30/06, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > After "Drella" which I love as well, the only one I listened to much after > I bought it > was "Magic and Loss". I bought "Ecstasy" and "Set the Twilight Reeling" > but they didn't > play them more than a couple of times. Hmmm. "Set the Twilight Reeling" strikes me as a kind of slight record. "Ecstacy" was clearly a more challenging work and an involving listen, although I could do with a few less images old and speed-ravaged Lou ejaculating... both in the songs and on the cover art. "Magic and Loss" had its rewards but I tend to find it a slog these days, whereas "New York", dated and preachy though it can be, is always a terrifically fun listen. "Legendary Hearts" and "New Sensation" were kind of completist pickups for me and I've never listened to them that seriously; when I have they've seemed like toss-offs, but I was probably prejudiced going in (I kinda remember Lou, before I was interested, playing stuff like "Video Violence" and "The Original Wrapper" on Letterman and being very meh, but that was before I discovered the Velvets). "Street Hassle" has some missteps but at least they're interesting ones. "Blue Mask" is, to me, a near-masterpiece whose flaws are pretty extreme and off-putting, so while I'd acknowledge it as one of Lou's best works, I don't like it nearly as much as others on the same level... "Berlin" and so forth. The "Poe" thing was universally deemed unlistenable, wasn't it? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:10:04 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Lou Reed redux The Great Quail wrote: >> I am also a big fan of "Legendary Hearts," and I have a real >> serious soft >> spot for "New Sensations" and even "Mistrial," as they came out >> around the >> time I began getting into Lou. Eb: >I recalled being blah about Legendary Hearts, and recently re-played >it and enjoyed it a lot more than I remembered. >On the other hand, I don't even own the other two. In fact, I bought >New Sensations and traded it back. >A late-night "Classic SNL" episodes a few weeks back was a '80s >episode where Lou san "I Love You Suzanne" and "The Original Rapper." >Not exactly my first choice for a past era to see Lou perform. Legendary Hearts came out when I was going through a divorce, so a number of the songs resonated with me. I just listened to it again couple of weeks ago, and I still think it's one of his best even sans the killer guitars of TBM. I'll agree on Eb and SER on "New Sensations". I noticed that his first solo album as well as "The Bells" have been re-mastered. I would hope that "Street Hassle" isn't far behind, as I have been holding out for a reissue. Both SH and LH are out of print and commanding hefty fees. Eb again: >I'm almost always "thumbs up" about a documentary if the subject >interests me enough to watch it, but I saw a documentary last night >called "Tell Them Who You Are" about Haskell Wexler which was >strikingly lousy and unsatisfying. Thanks for showing us your home >videos, Mark. Haskell shot a lot of John Sayles movies that I like. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:39:58 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux On 6/30/06, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > I noticed that his first solo album as well as "The Bells" have been > re-mastered. I would hope that "Street Hassle" isn't far behind, as I have > been holding out for a reissue. Both > SH and LH are out of print and commanding hefty fees. I think I got LH used and cheap a few years ago; must've been before anyone noticed it was out of print. I know I got "Mistrial" for next to nothing. I'd thought I'd bought SH new but definitely didn't pay a premium for it... the only ones I shelled out for in reissue were BM and Berlin, I think. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:47:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux On 6/30/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > > I think I got LH used and cheap a few years ago; must've been before > anyone > noticed it was out of print. I like that one - but not as much as Blue Mask. Also, if I recall, Lou overwrites a lot of the lyrics on that one. I know I got "Mistrial" for next to nothing. Ah good: you paid what it's worth... I'd thought I'd bought SH new but definitely didn't pay a premium for it... Street Hassle definitely has its moments. I think the one I've underrated, and am growing to like more, is The Bells. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:13:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux Bachman, Michael wrote: > Eb again: >> I'm almost always "thumbs up" about a documentary if the subject >> interests me enough to watch it, but I saw a documentary last night >> called "Tell Them Who You Are" about Haskell Wexler which was >> strikingly lousy and unsatisfying. Thanks for showing us your home >> videos, Mark. > > Haskell shot a lot of John Sayles movies that I like. Don't expect this to figure in your reaction to the above film. Its general ambience is of a son shooting handheld video of a father with whom he has a contentious relationship. Film history is explicitly lowered to a secondary topic. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:55:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Not really a reap, but still of existential importance http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/30/people.hasselhoff.ap/index.html I wish I had 10 bucks for every time I've injured myself while shaving under a gym's chandelier. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:07:36 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Lou Reed redux > Both > SH and LH are out of print and commanding hefty fees. One url: http://www.allofMP3.com - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:52:00 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: European Ogopogo? MRG: > Don't do it, Sebastian. Book a bed'n'breakfast instead. Nothing feels worse than that stiff, cold feeling after a night out in a field... I'm with you, Mike. Give me the soft bed, warm shower and snuggling with the wife. Skip the neighbors-in-the-next-tent-with-unknown-diseases coughing all night long and knot in your back. Things are looking up for your side, Sebastian. You may get that fourth Cup after all. And continuing in a footy-related vein, here's a nice photo of the supporters end from our stadium opening: http://tinyurl.com/fh27w . You can just see my tummy in this shot, but I'm not telling you where to look. Michael "I'll give you a hint, it's somewhere near the 200-foot-long flag" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:55:10 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #151 >* I've probably seen this and forgotten it. My fave LNM moment is in a >Dr Who episode where the monster rampages all the way from Loch Ness to >London in the days before motorways. I mean, did it hitch-hike all the >way? But that film with the "I have really hi-tech equipment and I'm >going to film it this time" turns up over and over again, with a >different bloke and different hi-tech equipment each time. They usually >finish up replicating the surgeon's photograph out of frustration; or >replicating the upturned boat film out of false pride... can anyone here remember the name of a comedy film from the 1960s that involved a prize for anyone managing to photograph Nessie, with images sent in of various extremely fake-looking monsters? it's only a very dim memory, so i know no fuurther details. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:29:58 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #151 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > can anyone here remember the name of a comedy film from the 1960s that > involved a prize for anyone managing to photograph Nessie but here's a Nessie you can photograph - and play! - -- it's from my unusual acquaintance Steve Mann. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 00:09:52 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Grant-Lee Phillips (9.5% RH Content) "This album is my personal mix tape, just as it's reeled around in my head for decades," Grant-Lee promises. In stores now! Amazon | iTunes Grant-Lee Phillips nineteeneighties 1. "Wave Of Mutilation" (Pixies) 2. "Age Of Consent" (New Order) 3. "The Eternal" (Joy Division) 4. "I Often Dream Of Trains" (Robyn Hitchcock) 5. "The Killing Moon" (Echo & The Bunnymen) 6. "Love My Way" (Psychedelic Furs) 7. "Under The Milky Way" (The Church) 8. "City Of Refuge" (Nick Cave) 9. "So. Central Rain" (R.E.M.) 10. "Boys Don't Cry" (The Cure) 11. "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Love Me" (The Smiths) Looks interesting. AOL has it streaming, and there are some tracks on his myspace account. http://myspace.com/grantleephillips enjoy! Mike ps - Happy Canada day to my neighbors to the North. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 00:31:50 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: reap Freddie Trueman, 75 James (PS - for those of you more used to US sports, this is one of the biggies in cricket - the equivalent of, say, Willie Mays) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #152 ********************************