From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #150 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, June 29 2006 Volume 15 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: self defense, hooligan style ["michael wells" ] Re: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] RE: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Lou Lou Reed Reed [Eb ] Re: Lou Lou Reed Reed [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Werner Lou Reed Herzog [Tom Clark ] Re: Lou Lou Reed Reed [The Great Quail ] Bryan Poole = rockin' feg ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:58:54 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: self defense, hooligan style Eb: > I never knew so much footage was available! It is pretty amazing what's getting put up, and at what speed. By the time I got home from the Fire's stadium home opener on Sunday, there was already a brief clip posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WR1SIbSycY&search=chicago%20fire And ESPN columnist Bill Simmons' latest entry http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060626 lists his favorite sports / TV-themed YouTube moments. Some dodgy choices, but the Rowdy Roddy Piper clip is gold. Sebastian: >> I can only imagine. I got nice midfield tickets for >> the Chelsea v. MLS All-Stars here in August >> On the bright side we open our new stadium Sunday, which will be fun. > Where is "here"? I gotta say, atmosphere-wise this beat everything else > I've seen up to now. Chelsea is playing in the aforementioned brand new Toyota Park in suburban Chicago on August 2nd. This is part of an ongoing program by MLS make a show of quality soccer (because we still don't have any, for the most part); in this case, they're sending a cobbled-together all-star team against a world-class club. I got two midfield tickets 12 rows off the pitch, so if you want to go to the match come on over for a holiday, Sebastian! Otherwise I'll probably sell them and use the proceeds to cover the entire cost of my season tickets. Although the thought of seeing the full Chelsea squad gearing up for their season is definitely tempting... Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:54:21 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: self defense, hooligan style - --On 27. Juni 2006 21:58:54 -0700 michael wells wrote: > Sebastian: >>> I can only imagine. I got nice midfield tickets for >>> the Chelsea v. MLS All-Stars here in August >>> On the bright side we open our new stadium Sunday, which will be fun. > >> Where is "here"? I gotta say, atmosphere-wise this beat everything else >> I've seen up to now. > > > Chelsea is playing in the aforementioned brand new Toyota Park in suburban > Chicago on August 2nd. This is part of an ongoing program by MLS make a > show of quality soccer (because we still don't have any, for the most > part); in this case, they're sending a cobbled-together all-star team > against a world-class club. I got two midfield tickets 12 rows off the > pitch, so if you want to go to the match come on over for a holiday, > Sebastian! Otherwise I'll probably sell them and use the proceeds to > cover the entire cost of my season tickets. Although the thought of > seeing the full Chelsea squad gearing up for their season is definitely > tempting... It sure is. I'd like to take you up on your offer, especially since I haven't yet been to Chicago and would definitely like to, but I have a ticket for the Haldern festival that starts August 3d: Here's the lineup: DONNERSTAG, 3. August 2006 Spiegelzelt: The Waking Eyes Mystery Jets Martha Wainwright Novastar Lambchop FREITAG, 4. August 2006 Spiegelzelt: (Zippo 1) (Zippo 2) The High Dials Anna Ternheim B|hne: The Veils Morning Runner The Zutons We Are Scientists The Cooper Temple Clause Motorpsycho Element Of Crime Mogwai Spiegelzelt: The Revs Final Fantasy SAMSTAG, 5. August 2006 Spiegelzelt: (Zippo 3) (Zippo 4) B|hne: GEM The Rifles Islands Guillemots The Wrens The Kooks Paolo Nutini James Dean Bradfield The Divine Comedy The Twilight Singers Spiegelzelt: Ed Harcourt Kante It's my first festival in ages and the first one that stretches more than one day. I'm a bit worried about the camping aspect (haven't even got a tent yet), but what the heck. Anyway, thanks for the offer! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:17:28 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Lou Lou Reed Reed I've never noticed this before, but...am I wrong, or is the cover photo of Lou Reed's The Blue Mask the exact same image used on the cover of Transformer except cropped and colored? Not that I'm accusing Reed of ever being lazy about his art... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:30:17 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 26 2006 Volume 15 : Number 148 > Actually I'm not sure that all of those terms are archaic gentlemanly terms: > some, I suspect, are hunting terms...and may well be in use among, say, poor > Southern hunters. Certainly they have their specialized lingo. > Most all of the terms are indeed hunting terms, but originating from the > English country hunts--hounds, red coats, horses, etc. > Marc * You know the one about Esquimeaux having loads of words for "snow". Landed gentry have loads of words for "potentially dead wild animals" because that's their bag (ho ho unintentional joke). > Have dictionaries and usage guides finally figured out that "alright" means > something completely different from "all right" and ought not, therefore, to > be regarded as a misspelling? * Could you amplify, please? I was taught that "alright" was just a misspelling. And incidentally I have the same problem with "under way". Surely it's "under weigh" (referring to weighing anchor)? Whaddya think, Stewart, you easy-going liberal? > It's the 2004 BBC backed documentary filmed by a German. I believe he > had some of Sid's research. The DVD include bits that weren't in the > BBC > documentary, such as what became of Gram's sister Avis.> > Michael B. * There was a fair bit about Avis in the interminable BBC4 documentary that I saw. Maybe they edited down a bit for BBC2. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Donovan "Twelve Kingfishers" >> There was a nice book of these a decade or two ago entitled, I think, "An >> Exhaltation Of Larks"... if you're interested. "exaltation" > Well, I don't know if they're exactly in common use, but they are generally > excepted terms. "accepted". Don't you folks have spell-checkers to go to? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:51:58 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith >> It's the 2004 BBC backed documentary filmed by a German. I believe he >> had some of Sid's research. The DVD include bits that weren't in the >> BBC > documentary, such as what became of Gram's sister Avis.> >> Michael B. MG: >* There was a fair bit about Avis in the interminable BBC4 documentary >that I saw. Maybe they edited down a bit for BBC2. The commentary from the director stated that he added a snippet for the DVD about Avis's death in a 1993 boating accident due to inquires from folks (after viewing the BBC documentary) wondering about what happened to Avis. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:53:06 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Anita Lives with Brian and Keith On 6/28/06, hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > > Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > > > Have dictionaries and usage guides finally figured out that "alright" > means > > something completely different from "all right" and ought not, > therefore, to > > be regarded as a misspelling? > > * Could you amplify, please? I was taught that "alright" was just a > misspelling. If it were a misspelling (for "all right"), it would always mean the same thing as "all right." However, to say that something is "all right" is to say that all of it is right ("My son answered 68 math questions, and he got them all right"). "Alright" does not mean that - at least not in American usage. It's far more middling: "How was the movie?" "It was alright" - meaning: it was no masterpiece, but it didn't utterly suck: it was okay, pretty good, etc. "Alright" is formed by analogy, structurally, with "altogether" (which also doesn't mean exactly the same thing as "all together"). It's just that it's a more recent formation...to get back to the whole what dictionaries recognize issue. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:06:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Lou Lou Reed Reed 2fs wrote: > I've never noticed this before, but...am I wrong, or is the cover > photo of > Lou Reed's The Blue Mask the exact same image used on the cover of > Transformer > except cropped and colored? Weird. That never consciously registered in my head either. Something along these lines which amuses me in my own collection: For laughs, I have a cheapie secondhand copy of the Bay City Rollers' first album. The back cover has individual photos of all the band members. "Woody" has a vacantly cheery, open-mouthed expression ("hey...what's up?") and is wearing some sort of red and white T- shirt. The FRONT cover (http://www.newlog.com.ar/LPAL/bay- city_dame_URU.jpg) has a full band shot, except...the image of "Woody" in the cover shot is simply a *painting* of his head as identically seen in the back-cover shot! Spliced onto a totally different body! It's a good painting, so this is easy to miss with a casual glance. :) Wish I could easily find the back cover on the Web, but I've long thought that discography webpages grievously overlook posting BACK- cover scans..... I saw a very, very strange movie last night: "Incident at Loch Ness," a 2004 film-of-a-film with Werner Herzog going off to shoot a documentary about the Loch Ness monster. I don't want to post any spoilers, but suffice to say that I can't IMAGINE what his motivation for doing this film was. I have a hard time even attaching a "grade" to it. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Lou Lou Reed Reed 2fs wrote: > I've never noticed this before, but...am I wrong, or > is the cover photo of Lou Reed's The Blue Mask the > exact same image used on the cover of Transformer > except cropped and colored? Not that I'm accusing > Reed of ever being lazy about his art... I noticed it first time I saw the sleeve, but.... I don't think it's Lou being lazy though; I read it as a comment that he was going to back to square one (technically square two, but no one cares about his first solo albums) but this time he was going in what he thought of as a more direct direction; instead of being a decadant dilletente (not that that is exactly what he was), he's just going to be Lou. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:15:19 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Werner Lou Reed Herzog On Jun 28, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Eb wrote: > I saw a very, very strange movie last night: "Incident at Loch > Ness," a 2004 film-of-a-film with Werner Herzog going off to shoot > a documentary about the Loch Ness monster. I don't want to post any > spoilers, but suffice to say that I can't IMAGINE what his > motivation for doing this film was. I have a hard time even > attaching a "grade" to it. Interesting in that the guys on the Filmspotting podcast are in the middle of a six-week Herzog/Kinski marathon. I'm not familiar with a lot of his stuff, but it seems that a theme common to Herzog's work is the folly of man in his attempts to understand and control nature. A blatant recent example being "Grizzly Man". http://filmspotting.net/marathons.htm - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:25:59 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Lou Lou Reed Reed > I don't think it's Lou being lazy though; I read it as > a comment that he was going to back to square one I believe that the title reveals Lou's intentions: "The Blue Mask." By using this title, he's revealing that the Lou Reed of "Transformer" was also a mask -- a yellow mask, to be exact, with all the decadence that entails. This "new" Lou adopts a blue mask, the negative of yellow. After all, "The Blue Mask" (which I think is his best album) is a brutal and unflinching work that explores sadness, loss, pornography, drugs, violence, and loathing. It's an appropriate color for the stripped-down, bare-bones songs that make up its bulk. Sigh. I only wish Lou were still making albums like "Transformer," "The Blue Mask," and "New York." Unlike many Fegs, I still enjoy his recent stuff -- and he was *great* in concert last year! -- but I miss the somewhat-less-than-happy Lou. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:20:20 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Bryan Poole = rockin' feg I had the very great pleasure of seeing Bryan (aka the late bp helium) in Toronto last night. He's on tour with his band, and if you like guitary psych rock, you'll love it. He's also a great bloke to chat with. Have yourself the best tour, Bryan, and fellow fegs, if he's in town, go see him play: 6-29 - Hamilton, ON - The Casbah 19+ # 6-30 - Peterborough, ON - The Moho 19+ 7-1 - Ottawa, ON - Mavericks (FREE!) 19+ # 7-7 - Toronto, ON - TBA 7-9 - Buffalo, NY - TBA 7-10 - Albany, NY - TBA 7-11 - Boston, MA - Great Scott @ Allston 18+ % 7-12 - New Haven, CT - Bar 21+ % 7-13 - New York, NY - Club Midway 21+ % 7-14 - Philadelphia, PA - Northstar 21+ 7-15 - Charlotte, NC - The Milestone 18+ & 7-22 - Athens, GA - Secret Squirrel AA @ # with jackandginger % with The Impossible Shapes & with Doug Gillard @ with Doug Gillard, M Coast Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #150 ********************************