From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #140 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, June 17 2006 Volume 15 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [Eb ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [FSThomas ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [Eb ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [2fs ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [Eb ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [Eb ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: protest! ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] On the local TV news [Eb ] a slightly different kind of death pool [wojbearpig ] My name is "Eb", and I've detected a rip in my ass-time continuum ["Stack] Re: My name is "Eb", and I've detected a rip in my ass-time continuum [2f] RE: protest! ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:32:00 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, FSThomas wrote: > > This must have been an agonizing experience. I always knew there was a > reason I didn't like Rufus Wainwright; I just couldn't put my finger on > it until now. I don't like his voice or his songwriting, both of which strike me as off-puutingly overwrought, but I think what finally turned me off to him was hearing him do an interview. He just came off as such a stereotypical queen, to the point where if he had been a character in a movie I would have been offended at what a bigoted, outdated cliche the character was, like the token hairdresser in a Jerry Bruckheimer film who just exists to lisp and everemote and talk about show tunes and, like, Judy Garland, and get scared when the fists start flying. I like his the rest of his family's music just fine... don't own any, but have some on the wish list. - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:07:47 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, FSThomas wrote: > >>This must have been an agonizing experience. I always knew there was a >> reason I didn't like Rufus Wainwright; I just couldn't put my finger on >> it until now. The Spotted one: >I don't like his voice or his songwriting, both of which strike me as >off-puutingly overwrought, but I think what finally turned me off to him was >hearing him do an interview. He just came off as such a stereotypical >queen, to the point where if he had been a character in a movie I would have >been offended at what a bigoted, outdated cliche the character was, like the >token hairdresser in a Jerry Bruckheimer film who just exists to lisp and >everemote and talk about show tunes and, like, Judy Garland, and get scared >when the fists start flying. >I like his the rest of his family's music just fine... don't own any, but >have some on the wish list. The Kate and Anna McGarrigle eponymous album from 1975 is the one to start with. A must have and maybe the most overlooked great album from the 70's. I don't have any solo Rufus. My older sister had a cat named Rufus though back in the 80's. I don't know if he purred to any shows tunes or Judy Garland records. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:04:07 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland I'd missed this the first time around... It doesn't matter that Mr. Wainwright sounds nothing like Garland or > that his voice, an astringent drone with a quavering edge, uncertain > intonation and slightly garbled diction, isn't half as good an > instrument as Garland's. The spirit was there. At the very least, his > loving song-by-song re-creation of Garland's brilliant concert of April > 23, 1961, which became "Judy at Carnegie Hall," the most beloved of all > prerock concert albums, was a fabulous stunt. Not even Madonna, pop > music's ultimate provocateur, has attempted anything so ambitious. But there's always Disc 2 of ROBYN SINGS, a loving song-by-song recreation of the most beleved of all rock concert bootlegs. Chew on that, Madonna! - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:04:51 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland >> This must have been an agonizing experience. I always knew there >> was a >> reason I didn't like Rufus Wainwright; I just couldn't put my >> finger on >> it until now. I doubt that I would have enjoyed the show much, but I love Rufus' fearlessness about taking risks and layingitalloutthere. Some of you rolled your eyes with "There's nothing to see here, folks" when I first raved about RW as his debut arrived, but look at how the world is still talking about him eight years later...like it or not, the silly queen has earned his tenure. I just wish he knew where to draw the "overproduction" line. And that he could mix in more percussive syllables amidst all the slurring and elongated notes. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:26:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > It doesn't matter that Mr. Wainwright sounds nothing like Garland or >> that his voice, an astringent drone with a quavering edge, uncertain >> intonation and slightly garbled diction, isn't half as good an >> instrument as Garland's. The spirit was there. At the very least, his >> loving song-by-song re-creation of Garland's brilliant concert of >> April >> 23, 1961, which became "Judy at Carnegie Hall," the most beloved >> of all >> prerock concert albums, was a fabulous stunt. Not even Madonna, pop >> music's ultimate provocateur, has attempted anything so ambitious. > > But there's always Disc 2 of ROBYN SINGS, a loving song-by-song > recreation > of the most beleved of all rock concert bootlegs. Chew on that, > Madonna! But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas with Robyn, it always just comes off as a dutiful exercise. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:51:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Eb wrote: > But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas > with Robyn, it always just comes off as a dutiful > exercise. Which is why his "Hallelujah" is even more perfuctory and dull than Jeff Buckley's. John Cale squashes both of them with his arms tied behind his back and a heroin needle sticking out his arm like Nikki Sixx waking up the morning after he died. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:53:03 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Holy crap. Don't tell me I actually started a musical thread and it's (marginally) led to discussion of Robyn ... - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:47:00 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, Eb wrote: > > Some of you rolled your eyes with "There's nothing to see here, > folks" when I first raved about RW as his debut arrived, but look at > how the world is still talking about him eight years later...like it > or not, the silly queen has earned his tenure. I was pretty sure from early on that he was gonna be a major artist and probably an influential one, god help us. Just really not my thing. Like Tool (although if Tool did a Garland tribute I'd feel obliged to check out five or six minutes of it at least). - -SER np. Tom Verlaine live with band on KCRW, tearing his new songs to shreds in a very good way indeed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:08:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Eb wrote: > Some of you rolled your eyes with "There's nothing > to see here, folks" when I first raved about RW as > his debut arrived, but look at how the world is > still talking about him eight years later...like > it or not, the silly queen has earned his tenure. If all it takes is sticking around eight years and still being talked about, Britney Spears has earned hers as well. Except that Richard Thompson's never rescued one of Rufus's songs. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:10:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas >> with Robyn, it always just comes off as a dutiful >> exercise. > > Which is why his "Hallelujah" is even more perfuctory > and dull than Jeff Buckley's. This comment doesn't scan at all. "Hallelujah" is not a prime example of a great Wainwright cover, but saying it's dull because Wainwright knows how to sell a cover song is nonsensical. > John Cale squashes both > of them with his arms tied behind his back and a > heroin needle sticking out his arm like Nikki Sixx > waking up the morning after he died. I don't think Cale's dull version is in remotely the same league as Buckley's. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:32:54 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, Eb wrote: > > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas > >> with Robyn, it always just comes off as a dutiful > >> exercise. > > > > Which is why his "Hallelujah" is even more perfuctory > > and dull than Jeff Buckley's. > > This comment doesn't scan at all. "Hallelujah" is not a prime example > of a great Wainwright cover, but saying it's dull because Wainwright > knows how to sell a cover song is nonsensical. It's sarcasm. > John Cale squashes both > > of them with his arms tied behind his back and a > > heroin needle sticking out his arm like Nikki Sixx > > waking up the morning after he died. > > I don't think Cale's dull version is in remotely the same league as > Buckley's. I'm totally with Jeff, but then I like Cale better than everyone else cited. Yes, including Nikki Sixx. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:38:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Eb wrote: > > But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas > > with Robyn, it always just comes off as a dutiful > > exercise. > > Which is why his "Hallelujah" is even more perfuctory > and dull than Jeff Buckley's. John Cale squashes both > of them with his arms tied behind his back and a > heroin needle sticking out his arm like Nikki Sixx > waking up the morning after he died. Definitely. I dunno - apparently I know not from "overproduction" because I generally like Rufus W's stuff (although I haven't heard _Want Two_ yet). I've never heard him interviewed - but I guess if he's comfortable playing up/being the "queen" stereotype, more power to him. I do think he's an interesting songwriter - even if, for those allergic to overproduction, someone else might better sing them. Speaking of, I think he's improved dramatically as a vocalist from his first album onward: on that record, he sounds sorta like a Gordon Gano impersonating the florid Elvis or something, whereas on later works he's come to know how to best use the instrument he's got (which I rther like, unless S. Holden apparently). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:52:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, Eb wrote: > > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas > >> with Robyn, it always just comes off as a dutiful > >> exercise. > > > > Which is why his "Hallelujah" is even more perfuctory > > and dull than Jeff Buckley's. > > This comment doesn't scan at all. "Hallelujah" is not a prime example > of a great Wainwright cover, but saying it's dull because Wainwright > knows how to sell a cover song is nonsensical. I think Jeff was referring to *Robyn's* cover with "perfunctory and dull." > John Cale squashes both > > of them with his arms tied behind his back and a > > heroin needle sticking out his arm like Nikki Sixx > > waking up the morning after he died. > > I don't think Cale's dull version is in remotely the same league as > Buckley's. Chase your gout, son. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:15:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland 2fs wrote: > I've never > heard him interviewed I still remember how shocked I was when I got the first RWainwright disc, with that rich, mellow voice...and then a few weeks later, received a promotional disc which included snatches from a KCRW interview. THAT'S how the guy talks???? I had no idea how "flamboyant" he was, based on the album tracks alone. Jeff Dwarf wrote: > If all it takes is sticking around eight years and > still being talked about, Britney Spears has earned > hers as well. She has, in her own way. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:32:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland > I think Jeff was referring to *Robyn's* cover with "perfunctory and > dull." Guess I didn't realize "Hallelujah" was another of Robyn's sheet- music encores. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:08:55 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, Eb wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > I've never > > heard him interviewed > > I still remember how shocked I was when I got the first RWainwright > disc, with that rich, mellow voice...and then a few weeks later, > received a promotional disc which included snatches from a KCRW > interview. THAT'S how the guy talks???? I had no idea how > "flamboyant" he was, based on the album tracks alone. Phew, thank god I'm not alone. Kinda just says "flame on", huh? - -SER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:14:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > I still remember how shocked I was when I got the first RWainwright > disc, with that rich, mellow voice...and then a few weeks later, > received a promotional disc which included snatches from a KCRW > interview. THAT'S how the guy talks???? I had no idea how > "flamboyant" he was, based on the album tracks alone. > > Phew, thank god I'm not alone. Kinda just says "flame on", huh? Not that there's... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Phew, thank god I'm not alone. Kinda just says > "flame on", huh? He makes Jm J Bullock look like Ted Nugent. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk. And we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together. To build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking. And it's greatest failures by NOT talking. It doesn't have to be like this! Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking. -- Stephen W. Hawking . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:11:01 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland On 6/16/06, Eb wrote: > > > > Phew, thank god I'm not alone. Kinda just says "flame on", huh? > > Not that there's... Of course, of course... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:45:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: protest! Geeks that we are, I think we would do well to come up with music-oriented "protest" signs...of the sort you might imagine in the background of a cartoon, only derived from, say, song lyrics. I will nominate two to start: NO MORE OAK OPPRESSION! and HE IS NOT APPRECIATED! (Rush, obviously - and "Hip Priest" by the Fall. Obviously.) Okay, this is a dumb idea...but the notion of someone wandering around with a sign saying NO MORE OAK OPPRESSION! just tickles me. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:25:15 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: protest! On 6/16/06, 2fs wrote: > > > (Rush, obviously - and "Hip Priest" by the Fall. Obviously.) Or for the version based on "New Big Prinz", one guy would have a sign saying "HE IS NOT" and then a whole bunch of other people would follow along holding the "APPRECIATED" sign. And then in walk the obligatr'y... never mind... - -Rx NOW I CAN REMEMBER NOW I CAN REMEMBER Brme. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:36:23 -0700 From: Eb Subject: On the local TV news A local police department has announced that a woman who has been missing for 15 years "may be dead." I'll post further updates, if any come. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:55:38 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: a slightly different kind of death pool http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/world_cup_death_watch/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:10:23 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: My name is "Eb", and I've detected a rip in my ass-time continuum item. criterion has announced it will be releasing edward yang's *Yi Yi* next month. on the very short list of the best movies of the last coupla decades (in my opinion). looks like with a new commentary track -- and the commentary for the lorber pressing was already one of the better ones. . supposedly his next movie was to be set in seattle; but the only thing IMDB is showing is an animated flick to be released next year. item. great haul at the library to-day: the new gabriel kolko book, the band's boxed set, and the 35th anniversary DVD of *Ryan's Daughter*. top that, punks! item. update your links, kids: feedthefish.org has expired. now try . haven't got a site search installed yet... (by the way, gandi.net is registering .info domain names for one euro apiece until the end of some or other upcoming month.) item. currently uploading: my first-ever mix-CD (which was so much fun in the making that it turned into two CDs). alt.binaries.sounds.flac, where, while it wasn't actually created for the fegs, it's listed as "fegMIX #1". give it a listen, won't you? (and if you don't wanna bother with downloading an assload of headers, browse on over to and download Grabit, with which you can perform a usenet search...or even browse many groups' latest headers without having to download them (!). this program oughta win some frickin' awards, i tells ya.) now, i bid jeme upload his washington, dc mix; and any other fegs upload mixes they think we'd like. item. the new built to spill rekkid is not very good, damn it all. huhn. methinks that *Fanny And Alexander* is far bergman's greatest achievement. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:36:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've detected a rip in my ass-time continuum n 6/16/06, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > item. update your links, kids: feedthefish.org has expired. now try > . > I dunno: I think the new URL is so subtle, no one will know what you're on about. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:33:02 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: protest! > NO MORE OAK OPPRESSION! ONE LIKES TO BELIEVE IN THE FREEDOM OF MUSIC! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:48:19 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Beck Didn't Play No Judy Garland Eb wrote: > > But Rufus knows how to "sell" a cover song, whereas with Robyn, it > always just comes off as a dutiful exercise. Hey no -- "More Than This" is a total reinvention of the song. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:20:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've detected a rip in my ass-time continuum Stacked Crooked wrote: > huhn. methinks that *Fanny And Alexander* is far bergman's greatest > achievement. Odd coincidence...I saw that for the first time last night, after seeing the first half in the EIGHTIES and never getting around to seeing the second half. It was very good, but I think Bergman did better. In the end, the story didn't quite give me the "universal lesson about humanity" which I was looking for. My favorite is probably "Persona," which I enjoy for different reasons. http://fucktheusa.info/eb/ Well, thank heavens this survived the site transfer. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:38:46 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: lurid reap Eb said: > > Also, Robert Donner, the guy who played "Exidor" on > > Mork & Mindy. Eb mentions Mork and Mindy - can more gonzo rambling about Pam Dawber be far away? James PS - Eb - I'll look up that track shortly. Don't recognise it by the title, but I often don't with instrumentals. - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:50:22 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: There Goes Bill etc Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Thursday, June 15 2006 Volume 15 : Number 138 > From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" >> How do the rest of us get ahold of your "Cheese Alarm" mp3? > > I just sent an mp3 to James. Haven't managed to get it working on my > headphones yet, so no g'tee of quality. James, does it sound OK or is > it rubbish? - - Mike Godwin * James says it sounds OK. If you ask nicely I expect he'll send you a copy. * Tomorrow were the only band in London playing 'Strawberry Fields' live in 1967 as the Beatles unaccountably bottled out... I didn't get to the 14 Hour Technicolor Dream because of asthma. But surely the time was right for the Beatles to play a couple of numbers, so why didn't they? > From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" > ... last I heard, Blatzman is more into Celine Dion and Annie > Lennox (and rather proud of it). I'm still trying hard to get him to one of > my shows to see what his ex-guitarist is up to these days! > - -Rx, ex-guitar and b. vox, There Goes Bill, but amazingly not the other, > completely unrelated There Goes Bill which cropped up on MySpace last year * Rex, we must collaborate on a musical project some time! Is that 'There goes Bill' from the Disney film, or from the Tenniel original? And would it matter if it was the one or the other? > Subject: RE: Hurrah for Sweden! >> And the Seventh Seal. Now that is a film! Or Cries and Whispers. Or >> Wild Strawberries... > Ingrid Bergman, Swedish pastries, lots of castles, free schooling, > blondes with big boobs, etc. > Michael "does a man really need any more" Wells > Ps. MRG it doesn't look like August will work for a trip over. Can I > send a cardboard cutout and an mp3? OK, do that little thing. I'll prop it up behind an Al Stewart 'Modern Times' LP... - - Mike "Godwinsson" Godwin PS As long-time readers will know, I'm more of a Karen Carpenter and Bonnie Tyler man than a Celine Dion and Annie Lennox one. n.p. 'Goodbye to Love' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:57:31 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: fuck you tom clark! early neutral milk hotel cassette mp3s. get 'em while they're hot! http://www.opticalatlas.com/nmhhypecity.html woj ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #140 ********************************