From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #118 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 31 2006 Volume 15 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- additional Nupp-ing info [Christopher Hintz ] RE: Morrissey ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Cheese and Wedding [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] RE: additional Nupp-ing info ["Brian Nupp" ] Mission of Burma [bayard ] RE: Cheese and Wedding ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Nupp-tials ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Nupp-tials [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Morrissey ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Morrissey [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Morrissey ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Morrissey [2fs ] RE: Mission of Burma ["Maximilian Lang" ] RE: Morrissey [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: Morrissey [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Morrissey ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] RE: Morrissey ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Morrissey [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] rock hard in a holy place [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Cheese and Wedding [wojbearpig ] RE: Morrissey ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Morrissey ["m swedene" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #116 [Michael Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:12:25 -0400 From: Christopher Hintz Subject: additional Nupp-ing info I didn't make the connection at the time, but I had dinner at the reception with Jeff, who was the drummer in Minor Threat, who did not look at all hardcore. And the rest of the table was v v cool as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Nelson_%28musician%29 Rev Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:38:23 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Morrissey Jill Brand wrote: >> I haven't listened to Morrissey with any seriousness since the second solo >> CD (is it Bona Drag or Viva Hate? I love them both but can't think of >> which is which). The other albums have left me cold, although I haven't >> listened to them in earnest, and I have probably only heard one or two >> tracks off of the way later ones. Might the new one interest me? Hmm. > >> No Morrissey, Eb? Not even Smiths. Ouch. Marc came back with: >I don't know--I think I'm more with Eb on this one. There is >something...cloying about Morrissey's voice that is like nails on a >chalkboard for me. I like Smiths songs, but mostly as covers and not as >originals, because of this. I'll chime in with Eb and Marc on this one. I'll listen to a couple of songs on 'Rank' once a year or so, but it's for Marr's guitar playing. Neil Finn did a live cover of "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" from '7 Worlds Collide' live cd and DVD with Marr playing guitar that I like a lot. Michael B. NP Claudine Longet - Hello, Hello: The Best Of Claudine Longet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:29:02 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Cheese and Wedding Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 30 2006 Volume 15 : Number 117 > Today's Subjects: > ----------------- > Re: Nupp-tials [wojbearpig ] > Somebody ring the cheese alarm! (no RH) ["Charlotte Tupman" RE: Nupp-tials ["Bachman, Michael" ] > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 11:32:05 +0100 > From: "Charlotte Tupman" > Subject: Somebody ring the cheese alarm! (no RH) > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/5021746.stm * Beautiful, Charlotte. If anyone is interested, I will essay a version of "Cheese Alarm" at Johnny G's gig at the Bell in Bath next Monday. But they are all blinking Arthur Lee and Syd Barrett fans there, so I may get sidetracked. Are you in, Brian? I will have listened to "Electric Castle" by then! > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:21:35 -0400 > From: "Bachman, Michael" > Subject: RE: Nupp-tials > Congrats to Nuppy and Tanya! > Michael B. * Seventhed! Or do I mean Eighthed? - - Mike "still worried about my wife" Godwin n.p. Blood of the Sun - Leslie West ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:34:32 -0400 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: additional Nupp-ing info Many thanks to all who have wished us well! And extra thanks to the wonderful, creative and genuine Rev Chris! If you can't get Robyn to marry you, get the Rev! (I'm quite sure Chris is more experienced!). He was absolutely great and received many compliments from my friends and family. Thank you Chris! >I didn't make the connection at the time, but I had dinner at the >reception with Jeff, who was the drummer in Minor Threat, who did not > >look at all hardcore. You should've seen him at the bachelor party... ;) And the rest of the table was v v cool as >well. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Nelson_%28musician%29 Jeff's yard sign's (much higher numbers now): http://www.daniellewiley.com/nelson/Nelson.html - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Mission of Burma Eddie mentioned the new Mission of Burma. _The Obliterati_ lives up to the hype - buy it, say I! And see them live, etc - this band deserves all the support it can get. Let me add my congrats and best wishes to Nuppy and his bride. May every happiness be yours! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:18:33 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Cheese and Wedding > Congrats to Nuppy and Tanya! Way to go Brian! It is always worth saying, the Nupper being a prime example: fegs are the nicest people. And given Chris' aptitude with camera, am somewhat surprised we don't have a photo blog of the wedding yet ;) I was actually thinking we'd see another announcement of a new arrival first, or do I have the dates wrong? > tc, last night on Kauai celebrating 15 years of marriage. And congrats as well! I think we'll do our 15th in Paris next year, presuming we can fight through all the 'Da Vinci Code' tourists. Maybe Scotland instead. Stewart, are the highlands romantic? Glad to see woj has new yearly folders for the archives, Michael Ps. pleased to see an Oceania rep in the Cup. James, is the entire region pulling behind the Ozzies? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:48:11 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Nupp-tials On 5/30/06, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > On 5/27/06, Christopher Hintz > wrote: > > > > Let it be hereby known, the first known instance of one feg > > performing the marriage ceremony for another feg has taken place. > > Our own dear Nuppy was married off this afternoon, by me, to the > > lovely Tanya. It was a truly beautiful experience with lots of > > alcohol. Woohoo! Huge congratulations to all! - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:00:08 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Nupp-tials Congrats to the newlyweds! Today (May 30) happens to be our 31st wedding anniversary. My parents insisted we get married back in 1975, though it wasn't a priority for us, being madly in love and sure the relationship was going to last no matter what. Under pressure to dance to the parent's tune, my husband wore a suit saying, "But this is the last time!", and absolutely refused to cut his ponytail off. So I tied it with a nice black velvet ribbon. I wore a long Victorian gown, and we look positively old-fashioned in our photos. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:14:37 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Morrissey On 5/30/06, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > Jill Brand wrote: > >> I haven't listened to Morrissey with any seriousness since the second > solo > >> CD (is it Bona Drag or Viva Hate? IMarc came back with: > >I don't know--I think I'm more with Eb on this one. There is > >something...cloying about Morrissey's voice that is like nails on a > >chalkboard for me. I like Smiths songs, but mostly as covers and not as > >originals, because of this. > > I'll chime in with Eb and Marc on this one. I can recall a few onlist blowouts over The Smiths. I can only say that past the Smiths I can tolerate no Morrissey at all, and I'm not as big of a fan of the Smiths as most. (I think what got me in trouble last time was saying that I didn't think Morrissey really understood anything about music, just grafted pre-written prose sort of awkwardly onto the music provided for him and filled out the rest with oh-oh oh-oh's, which I still find to be generally true.) I also don't find Marr, who is no doubt a great player, to have as instantly identifiable a signature sound as a lot of the other players of that era (Buck, Edge, Mould, Sergeant, the Church guys, Robert Smith, McGeoch, etc.) which probably means he's more talented and versatile than the lot of them but also means that when you take away the lead vocal from any given Smiths song it sounds more generic to me than any of 'em... so in that sense I cry "generic '80's jangle" more than usual. And I remember that a lot of people used to openly despise the Smiths, and for some reason you don't hear much of that any more... they seem to be canonically classic these days (which may be partly due to the prevailing lukewarm reception for every solo Morrisey disc...) - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Morrissey Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > (I think what got me in trouble last time was > saying that I didn't think Morrissey really > understood anything about music, just grafted > pre-written prose sort of awkwardly onto the music > provided for him and filled out the rest with oh-oh > oh-oh's, which I still find to be generally true.) There is almost no doubt that Morrissey understands almost nothing about music other than what he likes and what he doesn't which points to why The Smiths and his early stuff when he had Stephen Street writing music for him works so much better than his stuff since 1989: Marr and Street were able to craft melodies for Morrissey to graft his lyrics to that helped keep his "uh-huh-huh-hoh"-ing to reasonable levels in a way that "the lads" (or Mark Nevin, etc) haven't. > I also don't find Marr, who is no doubt a great > player, to have as instantly identifiable a > signature sound as a lot of the other players of > that era (Buck, Edge, Mould, Sergeant, the Church > guys, Robert Smith, McGeoch, etc.) that should probably be "the Robert Smith-Porl Thompson axis," just to be semi-anal about it. I don't completely agree, but I can sorta see what you mean. I think that what you're describing is probably the result of wanting by the "Phil Spector with a guitar" thing rather than "just" wanting to be a guitarist. Marr has played all over the place more than the above though, but nonetheless I can still hear something definite in most most of his work that sounds like him (at least until the mid-90s). > which probably means he's more talented and > versatile than the lot of them but also means > that when you take away the lead vocal from any > given Smiths song it sounds more generic to me > than any of 'em... so in that sense I cry > "generic '80's jangle" more than usual. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:53:20 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Morrissey Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >> which probably means he's more talented and >> versatile than the lot of them but also means >> that when you take away the lead vocal from any >> given Smiths song it sounds more generic to me >> than any of 'em... so in that sense I cry >> "generic '80's jangle" more than usual. Jeff: >I don't completely agree, but I can sorta see what you >mean. I think that what you're describing is probably >the result of wanting by the "Phil Spector with a >guitar" thing rather than "just" wanting to be a >guitarist. Marr has played all over the place more >than the above though, but nonetheless I can still >hear something definite in most most of his work that >sounds like him (at least until the mid-90s). I just remembered after reading Jeff's post that Marr was a member of The The for a while. I never listened to them when he was a member though. I can't imagine him playing jangle behind Matt Johnson's warbling, so I imagine he adopted a different style? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:17:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Morrissey On 5/30/06, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > > I can recall a few onlist blowouts over The Smiths. I can only say that > past the Smiths I can tolerate no Morrissey at all, and I'm not as big of > a > fan of the Smiths as most. (I think what got me in trouble last time was > saying that I didn't think Morrissey really understood anything about > music, > just grafted pre-written prose sort of awkwardly onto the music provided > for > him and filled out the rest with oh-oh oh-oh's, which I still find to be > generally true.) That, certainly, is what I would have thought would be the case with Morrissey's solo career, once the Smiths broke up. Yet I've been surprised that his songs sound like, well, his songs (not just lyrically: that facet is obviously Morrissey), so I must conclude that he contributed more, musically, to the Smiths' output than I'd've guessed. Either that, or he's quite canny at hiring co-writers who grasp his preferred musical contours. I also don't find Marr, who is no doubt a great player, to have as instantly > identifiable a signature sound as a lot of the other players of that era > (Buck, Edge, Mould, Sergeant, the Church guys, Robert Smith, McGeoch, > etc.) > which probably means he's more talented and versatile than the lot of them > but also means that when you take away the lead vocal from any given > Smiths > song it sounds more generic to me than any of 'em... If you want to hear Buck (and Mills and Berry) sounding utterly generic, pick up a used copy of that Hindu Love Gods CD. Warren Zevon isn't really a blues singer, and R.E.M. isn't a blues band - which is why all but a song or two on htat record are old blues songs, of course. If I didn't recognize Zevon's voice, and someone told me, hey, this is the bar band down the street, I'd be surprised they got such quality production (and acknowledge that they're competent players - but no more) but otherwise I'd believe it. If they'd released an EP with only "Raspberry Beret" and two of three of the last three tracks on the CD ("Battleship Chains" most likely, either "Vigilante Man" or "I'm a One-Woman Man" for the other), it would have been worth a few bucks. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:26:12 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Mission of Burma >From: bayard >Subject: Mission of Burma >Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) >Eddie mentioned the new Mission of Burma. >_The Obliterati_ lives up to the hype - buy it, say I! And see them live, >etc - this band deserves all the support it can get. >Let me add my congrats and best wishes to Nuppy and his bride. May every >happiness be yours! Listen to Bayard, he speak truth! The Philly show is limited to 150 tickets, surely the most intimate of all the stops on the tour. Congrats to the Nuppster from light socket! Max Max ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:30:19 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Morrissey - -- "Bachman, Michael" is rumored to have mumbled on 30. Mai 2006 15:53:20 -0400 regarding RE: Morrissey: > I just remembered after reading Jeff's post that Marr > was a member of The The for a while. I never listened > to them when he was a member though. I can't imagine him > playing jangle behind Matt Johnson's warbling, so I imagine > he adopted a different style? Late to the party here ... I love The Smiths, not including Strangeways. Eb's comment that they have no sense of melody boggles my mind. I find them much more melodious than many other bands, the key is that the melody isn't limited to the vocals, it's in the guitars and the bass as well. I never cared about Morrissey solo. I just recently heard the Best Of Morrissey for the first time and it didn't do anything for me. I saw Johnny Marr live about two years ago and thought he was a great guitar player, but the music wasn't as good as The Smiths were. I heard Dusk by The The for the first time two days ago and I liked it. Johnny Marr's guitar playing didn't sound like The Smiths at all. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Morrissey "Bachman, Michael" wrote: > I just remembered after reading Jeff's post that > Marr was a member of The The for a while. I never > listened to them when he was a member though. I > can't imagine him playing jangle behind Matt > Johnson's warbling, so I imagine he adopted a > different style? There a few scattered jangles here and there (most notably "The Beat(en) Generation"), but for the most part, no. His playing with The The mostly sounds related to "How Soon is Now?," etc. Of course, part of what broke up The Smiths was Marr wanting to stretch out more as a guitarist/writer than Morrissey was willing to accept. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:32:03 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Morrissey On 5/30/06, 2fs wrote: > > > If you want to hear Buck (and Mills and Berry) sounding utterly generic, > pick up a used copy of that Hindu Love Gods CD. Warren Zevon isn't really > a > blues singer, and R.E.M. isn't a blues band - which is why all but a song > or > two on htat record are old blues songs, of course. > If they'd released an EP with only "Raspberry Beret" and two of three of > the > last three tracks on the CD ("Battleship Chains" most likely, either > "Vigilante Man" or "I'm a One-Woman Man" for the other), it would have > been > worth a few bucks. My copy still has $3.99 sharpied onto the jewel case, so it ain't no thing. The guitar sounds like Buck to me (the rhythm section sounds more normal than regular REM, probably because they *could*). But I also first heard it at a time when I had spent so much time listening to Pete Buck's guitar that I probably could've picked it out of a police lineup 9 times out of 10. Marr's post-Smiths playing-with-everyone phase, a good deal of which I've heard (Talking Heads, The The, Bill Bragg, etc.) actually pretty much reinforces my take on him as more inventive and competent than distinctive. That Healers album sounded pretty dull from what I heard. Strange that he suddenly started singing and lyricizing all of the sudden, though, given how generally pedestrian the results were. Explains a thing or two, I guess, and may hopefully discourage other guitarists who've typically not even contributed so much as backing vocals from taking the same step. - -Rx - -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 17:24:00 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Morrissey Rx wrote: > I can recall a few onlist blowouts over The Smiths. I can only say that > past the Smiths I can tolerate no Morrissey at all, and I'm not as big of > a > fan of the Smiths as most. (I think what got me in trouble last time was > saying that I didn't think Morrissey really understood anything about > music, > just grafted pre-written prose sort of awkwardly onto the music provided > for > him and filled out the rest with oh-oh oh-oh's, which I still find to be > generally true.) You know, now that you mention it I can see why you would say that. His phrasing was always unique and more "jazzy" in terms of staying right on top of the music note for note, and this sometimes did come across as a bit awkward. I didn't mind that so much, but I hate his voice. I was trying to be nicer last time. > > I also don't find Marr, who is no doubt a great player, to have as > instantly > identifiable a signature sound as a lot of the other players of that era > (Buck, Edge, Mould, Sergeant, the Church guys, Robert Smith, McGeoch, > etc.) > which probably means he's more talented and versatile than the lot of them > but also means that when you take away the lead vocal from any given > Smiths > song it sounds more generic to me than any of 'em... so in that sense I > cry > "generic '80's jangle" more than usual. I've been listening to a lot of Marc Ribot's solo stuff lately. He's not really 80s jangle, but I couldn't think of a better place to interject that. I always loved his stuff with Tom Waits from the 80s, and his stuff with the Prosthetic Cubans is quite enjoyable, if not exactly jangly. > > And I remember that a lot of people used to openly despise the Smiths, and > for some reason you don't hear much of that any more... they seem to be > canonically classic these days (which may be partly due to the prevailing > lukewarm reception for every solo Morrisey disc...) I still despise the Smiths collectively only because I despise Morrissey's voice so much that I can't concentrate on the rest most of the time, but I'm not sure that really counts because I don't mind the songs if sung by someone else nearly as much. I rarely go out of my way for any of it though. I do, however, agree that The Smiths have definitely been put into the "if you have any taste at all, you have to like 'em more or less" category. I haven't been on the list long enough for a big on-list Smiths blow-out, but I've had that same argument with folks on other lists. I guess I'm a Philistine. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:16:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Morrissey On 5/30/06, Marc Alberts wrote: > > > I still despise the Smiths collectively only because I despise Morrissey's > voice so much that I can't concentrate on the rest most of the time, but > I'm > not sure that really counts because I don't mind the songs if sung by > someone else nearly as much. Somewhere there's an EP of a handful of Smiffs tracks sung by Sandie Shaw. I have no idea whether that's available readily anymore. Does our Exploding Brain Trust have any info? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:01:24 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: [loud-fans] rock hard in a holy place Are we counting things like *the Jesus and Mary Chain *Jesus Jones (yeah, only indirectly - it was directly in reference to the use of weird first names in Spaniah-speaking countries). A case could probably be made for Nazareth, too (then nailed shut once they're in it). James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 23:44:35 -0400 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: Cheese and Wedding one time at band camp, Michael Wells said: > Glad to see woj has new yearly folders for the archives, you win the prize for being the first person to notice! i figured it would be Eb, seeing that he's been bugging me to do that for the past three or so years, but i guess not! +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:35:33 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Morrissey Jeff wrote: > On 5/30/06, Marc Alberts wrote: > > > > > > I still despise the Smiths collectively only because I despise > Morrissey's > > voice so much that I can't concentrate on the rest most of the time, but > > I'm > > not sure that really counts because I don't mind the songs if sung by > > someone else nearly as much. > > > > Somewhere there's an EP of a handful of Smiffs tracks sung by Sandie Shaw. > I > have no idea whether that's available readily anymore. Does our Exploding > Brain Trust have any info? The only thing I know of is her "Hand in Glove" 45 done right after the Smiths released their first album where, if my memory serves me, she also sang on the b-side. I don't know if that's what you're thinking of or not, though. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 02:27:57 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: Morrissey If memory serves.... she did: Hand In glove and I Don't Owe You Anything. Mike On 5/31/06, Marc Alberts wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > On 5/30/06, Marc Alberts wrote: > > > > > > > > > I still despise the Smiths collectively only because I despise > > Morrissey's > > > voice so much that I can't concentrate on the rest most of the time, but > > > I'm > > > not sure that really counts because I don't mind the songs if sung by > > > someone else nearly as much. > > > > > > > > Somewhere there's an EP of a handful of Smiffs tracks sung by Sandie Shaw. > > I > > have no idea whether that's available readily anymore. Does our Exploding > > Brain Trust have any info? > > The only thing I know of is her "Hand in Glove" 45 done right after the > Smiths released their first album where, if my memory serves me, she also > sang on the b-side. I don't know if that's what you're thinking of or not, > though. > > Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 13:42:00 +0100 From: Michael Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #116 > fegmaniax-digest Sunday, May 28 2006 Volume 15 : Number 116 > Today's Subjects: > ----------------- > [Eb ] Morrissey > > Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:56:54 -0700 > From: Eb > Subject: Re: Morrissey > It's not a case of the Smiths being "'80s jangle-pop" so much...in > fact, I think their music has aged extremely well, for what it is. > It's more a case of them having a godawful sense of melody and that > Morrissey's voice makes me wanna claw my eyes out. Eb > > Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 15:59:37 -0700 > From: "Marc Alberts" > Subject: FW: Morrissey > I don't know--I think I'm more with Eb on this one. There is > something...cloying about Morrissey's voice that is like nails on a > chalkboard for me. I like Smiths songs, but mostly as covers and not as > originals, because of this. Marc * Slightly worried that I agree with Eb _again_. I have always reckoned that Morrissey only has one tune, the one that goes "And heaven knows I'm miserable now". But that Johnny Marr has to be a useful guitarist, otherwise Jansch wouldn't let him on stage. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Donovan - Bert's Blues PS Met Julie Driscoll the other day at one of Keith Tippett's gigs. Awestruck! I love a lot of her stuff, specially her collaborations with Brian Godding, Blossom Toes, and B B Blunder. Keith Tippett plays memorable but extremely hippie jazz, not really the sort of thing I like. Is he Michael's son? That might explain it. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #118 ********************************