From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #113 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 24 2006 Volume 15 : Number 113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Science fiction and superheroes [Eb ] Re: EAC for OS X? ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: Obscurities [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: EAC for OS X? ["m swedene" ] Re: EAC for OS X? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Reap ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] I have no interest in ordinary humans. [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Explorin' #2 [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: fegmaniax-die #09 [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Those wacky guys in The Producers and Cabaret [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Alone, jealous, stoned, and stoked ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: fegmaniax-die #09 ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Alone, jealous, stoned, and stoked [Eb ] RE: Explorin' #2 ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Alone, jealous, stoned, and stoked [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:33:03 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Science fiction and superheroes The Great Quail wrote: > There are folks out > there who will *not* watch BSG because it's set in space and has > robots and > such. Like me! And I've never been able to sit through any anime, unless it's Miyazaki or all the main characters have initials sewn on their shirts. ;) I've decided that I unfairly overlooked Elf Power. I want the whole kit 'n' kaboodle now. Damn it. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:19 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: EAC for OS X? > From: "Stewart C. Russell" > Subject: Re: EAC for OS X? > > Max has cdparanoia in it, which I think > was the > basis for EAC. Got it. Wow, my Quad G5 can rip to FLAC pretty quickly. Now, how can I burn these lossless files to an audio CD in OS X? Funny thing is, I have a brand new PC, I just forgot I have it. So I've got EAC running on it now. Let's see how that works. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:18:26 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Obscurities Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 20 2006 Volume 15 : Number 109 > Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:51:09 -0700 > From: Eb > Subject: Explorin' > I've been diddling Amazon's recommendations system lately...below are > some "oldies" they have suggested for me. Any interesting thoughts on > these? > Amon Duul II-Phallus Dei * My very dear but barmy pal Mart had this record. I remember it as an unlistenable attempt at doing Hapshash and the Coloured Coat, and I thought that was more or less unlistenable too. > Badfinger-Airwaves * Anything by the dead boys is always worth a listen > Billy Nicholls-Forever's No Time At All * I heard a horrid IwasLordKitchenersValet type trendy Carnaby Street thing by him once. > Donovan-Barabajagal > Donovan-Mellow Yellow > Donovan-The Hurdy Gurdy Man * You know me - all these are essential, specially the ones with songs by Donovan Leitch on them. > Ian Hunter-Ian Hunter > Ian Hunter-All American Alien Boy * If in doubt, get the one with 'Once Bitten Twice Shy' on it. Great classic rock song. > Les Fleur De Lys-Reflections * Oh they had that bloke Gordon Haskell in them, who had a big MoR hit over here recently. He left Fleurs De Lys (pl. I think) to join King Crimson. Whatever happened to them? (joke) > Mighty Baby-Mighty Baby * Mighty Baby were formed out of the remains of The Action, a key London mod group who had a near hit with "I'll keep on holding on". I knew their roadie Alan Speirs, but all the Speirs brothers (Alan, Austin and Kipps) are apparently now dead. Tough town, Warminster. > Mott The Hoople-Brain Capers * Yes, get it! Soft Machine-Vols. 1 & 2 * 1 is absolutely essential, but be warned. It was recorded after Daevid Allen left. They key record is called something like Giorgio Gomelsky's demos number 8, The Soft Machine, which includes essentially the same songs but with the addition of barmy Gong style guitar. Nice?!?! > T. Rex-Tanx * Everything by Marc is just great! > The 23rd Turnoff-The Dream Of Michelangelo * The name rings a bell but that's all > The Birds-The Collector's Guide To Rare British Birds * Are we talking about Ron Wood here, or the Lesser Spotted Flycatcher? > The Hollies-The Hollies/Would You Believe? * The Hollies were touring recently, but my poor wife had chemo on the day they were in Cardiff. Still features Tony Hicks and Bobby Elliott, but Eric Haydock has fallen by the wayside. Alan Clarke retired rich and was replaced by Move lead singer Carl Wayne who almost immediately died. Not sure who the new lead singer is but the new single sounded good. > The Misunderstood-Before The Dream Faded * Ah, we're right in John Peel territory here. John used to play 'I can take you to the sun' endlessly, so much so that when Glen Fernando Campbell came to London I was persuaded to go and see his band Juicy Lucy. Really squealy high pedal steel guitar. My ears were never the same afterwards. > The Red Crayola-The Parable Of Arable Land > Clips of Rockin' Horse, Chrysalis, Mighty Baby and the 23rd Turnoff > sound surprisingly good, considering that I've never heard of those > groups before. > > Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:16:33 -0500 > From: Dolph Chaney > Subject: Re: Explorin' > > At 03:51 PM 5/19/2006, Eb wrote: >> I've been diddling Amazon's recommendations system lately...below are >> some "oldies" they have suggested for me. Any interesting thoughts on >> these? >> >> Harmonia-Musik Von Harmonia > > I've been wanting some Harmonia as well -- on a big Krautrock kick in the > past year. > >> Joni Mitchell-Hejira > > This is my favorite Joni album. The songwriting has moved on from directly > confessional to more literary without quite being as up-its-own-butt as > she's become. Jaco Pastorius on fretless doesn't hurt a thing. > >> Lou Reed-Live In Italy > > This is the Quine / Saunders BLUE MASK lineup, IIRC? If that's the one I'm > thinking of, GET IT. > >> Nips N Nipple Erectors-Bops Babes Booze & Bovver > > As in pre-Pogues Shane MacGowan? I didn't know they'd got a CD of it! > >> Soft Machine-Vols. 1 & 2 > > Really fun, whimsical early Canterbury. It's really nothing like most of > THIRD, I think -- much shorter and cheekier songs. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:03:42 -0700 > From: Tom Clark > Subject: Re: Explorin' > > On May 19, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Eb wrote: > >> Les Fleur De Lys-Reflections > > FWIW "Circles" is one of my favorite tracks from the Nuggets II > collection. > > - -tc > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:47:43 -0500 > From: Steve Schiavo > Subject: Re: Explorin' > > On May 19, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Eb wrote: > >> Sagittarius-Present Tense > > Take this and the stuff by sister group The Millennium, run it > through your super updater machine, and you get Mercury Rev's The > Secret Migration. Softly psychedelic pop with slyly cosmic lyrics, I > like it for the melody, vocals, and arrangements. > >> Donovan-Barabajagal >> Donovan-Mellow Yellow >> Donovan-The Hurdy Gurdy Man > > Three good Donovan albums, add in Sunshine Superman and A Gift from a > Flower to a Garden and you've pretty much got it. A surprising > number of Donovan songs have been covered over the years, although > most are from his more rocking side. There are a number of greatest > hits albums. * I hate to say this, and basically I agree with Steve, but 'Fairytale' is the key to Mister Leitch's music. If you only want to learn 12 Donovan songs, learn: Summer Day Reflection Song Sunny Goodge Street (On the firefly platform on sunny Goodge Street, a violent hash smoker shook a chocolate machine, involved in an eating scene" etc). That "firefly platform" gets the black 60s Northern Line ambience in 2 words! Isle of Islay Sunshine Superman Celeste Twelve Kingfishers Lalena Hampstead Incident Hurdy Gurdy Man Rikki Tikki Tavi and of course Season of the Witch and Mellow Yellow - - Mike Godwin n.p. "Le ye ye" Petula Clark (or is it called 'Ya Ya Twist')? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:53:22 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: EAC for OS X? I have found that Toast 7 will allow you to burn FLAC directly to an audio disc for your home/vehicle listening pleasure. Other wise I usually just burn them as data. Mike On 5/23/06, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > From: "Stewart C. Russell" > > Subject: Re: EAC for OS X? > > > > Max has cdparanoia in it, which I think > > was the > > basis for EAC. > > Got it. Wow, my Quad G5 can rip to FLAC pretty quickly. Now, how can > I burn these lossless files to an audio CD in OS X? > > Funny thing is, I have a brand new PC, I just forgot I have it. So > I've got EAC running on it now. Let's see how that works. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:47:02 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: EAC for OS X? Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > Got it. Wow, my Quad G5 can rip to FLAC pretty quickly. Now, how can I > burn these lossless files to an audio CD in OS X? Dunno, but iTunes handles Apple Lossless. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:35:46 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Reap Lloyd Bentson: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/23/bentsen.obit/index.html xo Lauren - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:28:59 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: I have no interest in ordinary humans. > "I have no interest in ordinary humans. If there are any aliens, > time travelers, sliders, or espers here, come join me. That is all." Read a bit. Learn the dance. - - Steve __________ No matter where you go, there you are. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:49:23 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: My name is "Eric Broome", but my homies call me "E.bro" you're married to chrissie hynde?? sweet. <"The Killing" is a fantastic film, though it doesn't get discussed too much.> there's some nice acting in it, and the shot of the money getting blow away is too beautiful. but the screenplay just doesn't cut the mustard, i'm afraid. *The Asphalt Jungle* is about twenny hundred times better. mini-review: >> Calexico, *Garden Ruin* << first few songs are pretty forgettable, but after that it *really* gets crackin'. i do believe it's second only to TOOL in my to-date '06 hit parade -- though i do need to give the willie nile rekkid a few more spins. (have you heard this yet, jonesie? "The Day I Saw Bo Diddley", besides being one of my favourite songs of recent memory, kinda reminds me of "Thanksgiving Day Parade".) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:26:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Explorin' #2 Some more modern titles to submit....thoughts? Most of these sound pretty good to me, on the surface. Art Brut-Bang Bang Rock & Roll Babyshambles-Down in Albion Clogs-Lantern Danielson-Ships Dresden Dolls-Yes, Virginia... Field Music-Field Music Hal-Hal Impossible Shapes-Tum Islands-Return to the Sea Jason Collett-Idols of Exile Jens Lekman-Oh You're So Silent Jens Kelley Stoltz-Below the Branches KTU-Eight Armed Monkey Liars-Drum's Not Dead Lily Holbrook-Everything Was Beautiful and Nothing Hurt Man Man-Six Demon Bag Marjorie Fair-Self Help Serenade Maximo Park-A Certain Trigger Pipes You See Pipes You Don't-Individualized Shirts Rieflin/Fripp/Gunn-The Repercussions of Angelic Behavior Rogue Wave-Descended Like Vultures South-Adventures in the Underground Journey to the Stars Stars-Heart Sunset Rubdown-Shut Up I Am Dreaming Tarkio-Omnibus The Boy Least Likely To-Best Party Ever The Figurines-Skeleton The M's-Future Women The National-Alligator Ween-Live in Chicago Winterpills-Winterpills Eb PS Am I the only one who was receiving frantic emails from Eddie every few minutes throughout the entire "American Idol" hour tonight? Jeez, dude...chill. It's only a TV show! And to answer your question, yes, I do think the tour will come through Seattle. Don't fret so much! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:40:51 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Explorin' #2 - --On 23. Mai 2006 23:26:29 -0700 Eb wrote: > Some more modern titles to submit....thoughts? Most of these sound > pretty good to me, on the surface. > Babyshambles-Down in Albion Well, over here everybody is crazy about that one, but it doesn't do much for me. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:57:24 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: fegmaniax-die #09 - --On 22. Mai 2006 09:02:40 -0700 Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Sorta related, my kids went to a birthday party recently and in the gift > basket > was a budget DVD compilation of old cartoons Please explain. It sounds as though this basket is something your kids got!? Aren't the gifts supposed to go in the other direction? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:27:44 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Those wacky guys in The Producers and Cabaret Hi there! Black Monk wrote an aggressive reply to my last post so I am copying this one to everybody I know just to ensure fair play. 2 songs: "Don't be stoopid be a smartie come and join de natsy party" - Mel Brooks aka Rolf from Dusseldorf from the song "Springtime for Hitler" in the film The Producers, starring Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder Me: Yes but Mel is being IRONIC so that lets him off. Or does it?; "The Future Belongs to Me" is a song from Cabaret, a musical based on Christopher Isherwood's "I am a camera", starring Lisa Minnelli and Michael York Me: Yes but it's SOCIAL COMMENT so that lets Lisa off the hook. Or does it? Black Monk: > Do you understand the difference between a line of dialogue in a > > work of fiction and someone dressing up like a nazi and > going out in an area with a large Jewish population, as Moon and > Stanshall did? Me: No, I don't think I do. I'm sure that Isherwood was making a valid artistic statement about life in Germany when he visited it. What I am questioning is whether the writers of Cabaret have a right to bung a song sung by the hitlerjugend into a musical. I mean, writing songs for Sally Bowles to sing is obviously OK as she was a cabaret singer. But did Isherwood include a scene of singing nazis? And even if he did, was it right to use them in an entertainment film? Black Monk: > Yes, different situations let some people off the hook, to some > degree, and not others. Is that too subtle for you to understand? Me: Yes, probably. However, I laughed at The Producers but not at New Order or Spandau Ballet. Maybe New Order and Spandau Ballet weren't trying to be funny. My Dad died having the horrors that Oswald Mosley was going to come for him with a knife, even though Mosley died in and my Dad died in 1999. But I'm beginning to understand now why his Jewish mother wouldn't let him ride a bike in Manor Park or Mile End in the late twenties and early thirties. Can I slag off David Bowie at this point, whom I think probably set the trend for nazi "chic" among the punks in London and Manchester? >> Quoting BlackMonk : > Look up the word quote. There isn't a single word of mine quoted in > your post. Sorry, I thought that the last line in the thing I quoted was yours. Own up, somebody, whose was it? The words quoted by you in this post come direct from your last missive, however. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Blood of the Sun - Lesley West's Mountain. See you later, Nick! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:17:23 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Alone, jealous, stoned, and stoked Holy shit. "Ten Silver Drops" brings it. Big slopping buckets of rock. The ultimate arena rock. The album I wish I'd made in high school. "Lightning Blue Eyes" is my number-1 summer anthem. "Alone, Jealous, and Stoned" made me remember that you don't have to play a lot of notes or tempos to just flat-out rock. Not an album for headphones, however. That microphones-in-oatmeal trick they use to record, and that monitors-in-mashed-peas they used to master requires that this music be played loudly, on loudspeakers. I think that's the mistake I made with their first album; I tried it a few times, on headphones, and it just didn't register. My brain and ears just kept complaining about the mix. But give this music room to breath, and bow-howdy does it. This album likes to be driven by 50 watts of solid-state McIntosh amplifier testosterone through my refrigerator-sized Klipsch Cornwalls. Maybe their friend David Bowie could get the world's greatest guitarist, a certain Mr. Robert Fripp, to sit in with and/or record these guys. That'd be perfect. Anybody seen these guys play live? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:36:28 +0000 From: Tony Blackman Subject: Not very often I contribute.... ..but I have to add my vote for 'Hejira', as it's still one I play a lot a work. I'll have to agree that I would've thought that 'Blue' would've been more popular with everyone, so it's great to see so may people find 'Hejira' as endearing as I do. Often can't get 'Song For Sharon' out of my head. Tony. >>> >Joni Mitchell-Hejira >>> >>>This is my favorite Joni album. The songwriting has moved on from >>> directly >>> confessional to more literary without quite being as up-its-own-butt >>> as >>> she's become. Jaco Pastorius on fretless doesn't hurt a thing. >>> >>> seconded. The only Joni album I keep on anywhere near high rotate >>Joni saw me through some tough times as a teenager but the only album >>that has stayed in my collection is Hejira. It's damn fine. >>And Donovan? I third the above list and also agree on A Gift From a >>Flower to a Garden and Sunshine Superman. All of these are in my >>library, still only on vinyl however. >I was always under the impression that Blue would be most people's favorite >by Joni. "A Case Of You" from Blue certainly seems to be the popular cover song of picked up Hejira, I'll have to check it out. My Donavon collection is pretty >sad. It consists of the 60's hit collection on vinyl that I bought bought many moons >ago. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 08:16:26 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-die #09 On 5/24/06, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > Sorta related, my kids went to a birthday party recently and in the gift > > basket > > was a budget DVD compilation of old cartoons > > Please explain. It sounds as though this basket is something your kids > got!? Aren't the gifts supposed to go in the other direction? I know, I know. What kinda seems to happen is that when parents throw a ritzy shindig for their kids' birthday, say at a nice restaurant or the zoo or someplace fun in its own right, they pay for the place to provide a "package" of games and entertainment and also li'l bags of cheap toys and temporary tattoos and Chinese yo-yo'a and so forth for all kids attending. I think initially this was part of the "birthday services" provided by the institution, but over time all kids going to birthday parties started to expect this, and thus parents of the birthday kids always have to make up such goodie bags for the guest kids, even if they're already shelling out for the food for kids and patents, karaoke machine, balloons,etc. separately. Ah, but ain't that America. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:51:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Alone, jealous, stoned, and stoked Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > Holy shit. "Ten Silver Drops" brings it. Big slopping buckets of > rock. The ultimate arena rock. The album I wish I'd made in high > school. "Lightning Blue Eyes" is my number-1 summer anthem. "Alone, > Jealous, and Stoned" made me remember that you don't have to play a > lot of notes or tempos to just flat-out rock. I just can't get into them. Either the music needs to be a lot more aggro a la Stooges/MC5, etc., or it needs to be more decorated a la Spiritualized or some band with more sense of "jamming." But otherwise, I just hear those similar textures and steady, cruising tempos over and over and think "OK, so what ELSE can you guys do?" I think they secretly may wanna be U2 (minus the hooks and point of view). In other news, it is utterly bewildering how many Swedish bands are emerging someday. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:07:50 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Explorin' #2 >The M's-Future Women I'm a big M's fan - one of the better local (Chicago) acts. After some re-compiling of the lineup this is their new album - the first was very rawk-ish. Apparently they're also being stalked by Jonathan Demme, and he's doing a video or something for them or something. Highly recommended. >The National-Alligator I liked the description of this one as well, and it made a couple of last year's "Best Of" lists. Didn't work for me though - found it kind of flat and generic. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:32:56 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Alone, jealous, stoned, and stoked On May 24, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > Holy shit. "Ten Silver Drops" brings it. Big slopping buckets of > rock. The ultimate arena rock. The album I wish I'd made in high > school. "Lightning Blue Eyes" is my number-1 summer anthem. "Alone, > Jealous, and Stoned" made me remember that you don't have to play a > lot of notes or tempos to just flat-out rock. > As noted previously, I had issues with this album early on, mainly because I was comparing it with their earlier work. But after a few spins it really grew on me - to the point of me cursing the earworms it brought on. Agreed "Lightning Blue Eyes" is a standout, but the "Animals" feel of "Daddy's In The Doldrums" is cool too. They recently came through SF but I was out of town - bummer. I assume their shows are fairly loud and bombastic (hope so, anyway!) Speaking of concerts - how about The Mars Volta opening for the Chili Peppers? Man, those "Under The Bridge" fans are gonna shit their pants. - -tc, currently in beautiful Kauai. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #113 ********************************