From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #111 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 22 2006 Volume 15 : Number 111 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Lost video ["Fred Hamilton" ] Re: Lost video [Jeff Dwarf ] Wilco [bayard ] Elf Power [Eb ] RE: Elf Power ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Elf Power [Eb ] Re: Elf Power ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Elf Bat ["Brian Nupp" ] RE: Elf Power ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Elf Power [Eb ] reap [Eb ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] Re: reap [2fs ] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: reap ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: reap [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: fegmaniax-die #09 ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: Elf Power ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Science fiction and superheroes [The Great Quail ] reap ["Michael Wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 08:46:11 -0700 From: "Fred Hamilton" Subject: Lost video bayard asks: > So I went on vacation for a week and my expensive comcast DVR managed to > bork up the one show I wanted to record, "Lost". Does anyone have a link > to a file or working torrent of this? It's episode 22. > This torrent is alive and well: http://tinyurl.com/jpvrx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Lost video Fred Hamilton wrote: > bayard asks: > > So I went on vacation for a week and my expensive > > comcast DVR managed to bork up the one show I > > wanted to record, "Lost". Does anyone have a link > > to a file or working torrent of this? It's > > episode 22. > This torrent is alive and well: > http://tinyurl.com/jpvrx Or you can try: http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:17:25 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Wilco I thought this might be of interest/ http://www.ourstodestroy.com/Wilco/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:57:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Elf Power After leaving the disc for SEVEN YEARS in my limbo box, I gave another listen to Elf Power's A Dream in Sound today and decided to "promote" it to my central collection. Nothing too great (chief flaw: weak, weak singing), but good enough to keep. Now I wish I hadn't ignored everything they released since then...any thoughts on their best/worst albums? I note that Amazon's best-selling Elf Power CD *is* the one I just reinstated. Hrm. If this is their "masterpiece," then perhaps there aren't many riches left to discover. I saw "Batman Begins" last night. Wow. The best comic-superhero movie I've seen. In fact, if the first Reeves/"Superman" film didn't exist, I might say it was better than all the other movies *combined*. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 12:32:06 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Elf Power Eb wrote: > After leaving the disc for SEVEN YEARS in my limbo box, I gave > another listen to Elf Power's A Dream in Sound today and decided to > "promote" it to my central collection. Nothing too great (chief flaw: > weak, weak singing), but good enough to keep. Funny--about six months ago, I did the same thing and promoted it to semi-regular rotation (I don't divide up my collection except by genre) and my assessment was pretty much identical. I like the music a lot, but most of what comes out of the singer's mouth is, as you said, weak. > > Now I wish I hadn't ignored everything they released since then...any > thoughts on their best/worst albums? > > I note that Amazon's best-selling Elf Power CD *is* the one I just > reinstated. Hrm. If this is their "masterpiece," then perhaps there > aren't many riches left to discover. I'm kind of in the same boat--I keep looking for others from the friends of mine that originally introduced me to Elf Power and had similar results. Everyone seems to agree that A Dream in Sound is the best of the lot. > > I saw "Batman Begins" last night. Wow. The best comic-superhero movie > I've seen. In fact, if the first Reeves/"Superman" film didn't exist, > I might say it was better than all the other movies *combined*. I agree that it's the best of the best, but I am also a big fan of the X-Men films and I liked the second Spider Man so I wouldn't go nearly so far as you do with your combined quality ranking. But yeah--great film. It almost isn't even a superhero film in the same way that Battlestar Galactica (the SciFi Channel version) almost isn't a science fiction series. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:26:54 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Elf Power Marc Alberts wrote: > (I don't divide up my collection except by genre) Uh...how ELSE would you divide it up? > Everyone seems to agree that A Dream in Sound is the best of the lot. Huh. Interesting. Soundclips seem to indicate later albums (particularly the last one) are a lot more conservative and less "E6-y." > But yeah--great film. I moaned when Christopher Nolan "sold out" by accepting this blockbuster project, but damn, did he make me eat my words. If the series continues, I wonder if he'll stick with it...or if another writer/director can manage to sustain the tone which Nolan reinvented. Poor horsie. :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkg_gTtYNms Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:39:13 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Elf Power Their latest, "Back To The Web", is pretty good. They've gone a bit glam sounding; Rieger sounds like a squeaky Bolan. Stewart (in Aalborg) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 18:10:48 -0400 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: Elf Bat >I saw "Batman Begins" last night. Wow. The best comic-superhero movie > >I've seen. In fact, if the first Reeves/"Superman" film didn't exist, > >I might say it was better than all the other movies *combined*. > >Eb I saw it last night too. I thought it was excellent. Great character development. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:29:21 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Elf Power Eb wrote: > Marc Alberts wrote: > > (I don't divide up my collection except by genre) > > Uh...how ELSE would you divide it up? Well, if you want to go by High Fidelity, there are as many ways to divide a music collection as there are grains of sand under the sun, or something like that. For example, several of my friends have eschewed the whole "by genre" part and gone with straight alphabetical, creating an un-kosher mixing of blues, country, rock, classical, jazz, and whatever else they have. For me, I'm far more into the kashrut--I feel guilty even using the same CD player for all of those. Just kidding--I'm probably the only one who thinks that applying the Levitican laws to a CD collection is amusing. Then again, when I get the other three stereo systems so I can listen to Zaireeka the way it was meant to be, maybe I should adopt that approach.... > > > Everyone seems to agree that A Dream in Sound is the best of the lot. > > Huh. Interesting. > > Soundclips seem to indicate later albums (particularly the last one) > are a lot more conservative and less "E6-y." I think the only thing I really like about them is that they are so "E6-y." > > > But yeah--great film. > > I moaned when Christopher Nolan "sold out" by accepting this > blockbuster project, but damn, did he make me eat my words. If the > series continues, I wonder if he'll stick with it...or if another > writer/director can manage to sustain the tone which Nolan reinvented. Things can change, but as of right now he's doing it again: http://imdb.com/title/tt0468569/ Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:43:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Elf Power Marc Alberts wrote: >>> (I don't divide up my collection except by genre) >> >> Uh...how ELSE would you divide it up? > > Well, if you want to go by High Fidelity, there are as many ways to > divide a > music collection as there are grains of sand under the sun, or > something > like that. For example, several of my friends have eschewed the > whole "by > genre" part and gone with straight alphabetical, creating an un-kosher > mixing of blues, country, rock, classical, jazz, and whatever else > they > have. Alphabetical order isn't a "division." Like you said, it's a "un- kosher mixing." I've seen testimony from a few prog dorks who divide their collection by *country of origin* -- now that's truly embarrassing. Has anyone heard a group called Frog Eyes? Wow. These folks set a new standard for "unlistenable." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:05:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap 'Naked Guy' ex-student dies in jail Berkeley nudist was in custody on assault, battery charges SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- The former college student known as the "Naked Guy," who gained notoriety in the early 1990s for attending class in the buff, has died in jail, authorities said. Andrew Martinez, 33, whose stripped-down strolls at the University of California, Berkeley, got him expelled and prompted the city to adopt a strict anti-nudity ordinance, was found unconscious Thursday in a Santa Clara County jail, said jail spokesman Mark Cursi. Officials are investigating the death as an apparent suicide. He had been in custody since January 10 on charges of battery and assault with a deadly weapon, authorities said. In 1992, Martinez organized a "Nude-In" protest at the university. He said he was trying to make a point about free expression. The message caught on, and nude spottings spiked on campus. Martinez, who landed on national talk shows, was expelled the next year after the university banned nudity. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:35:43 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap On May 21, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Eb wrote: > 'Naked Guy' ex-student dies in jail > Berkeley nudist was in custody on assault, battery charges > > SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- The former college student known as the > "Naked Guy," who gained notoriety in the early 1990s for attending > class in the buff, has died in jail, authorities said. I was pretty shocked to see this in the paper today. He was quite the story back in the day and I just figured he outgrew it and went on to a semi-productive life. It's just surprising how nudity in your 20's leads to assault and battery in your 30's. Stay in school, kids. Preferably clothed. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:06:23 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 5/21/06, Eb wrote: > > 'Naked Guy' ex-student dies in jail > Berkeley nudist was in custody on assault, battery charges > > SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- The former college student known as the > "Naked Guy," who gained notoriety in the early 1990s for attending > class in the buff, has died in jail, authorities said. > > Andrew Martinez, 33, whose stripped-down strolls at the University of > California, Berkeley, got him expelled and prompted the city to adopt > a strict anti-nudity ordinance, was found unconscious Thursday in a > Santa Clara County jail, said jail spokesman Mark Cursi. > > Officials are investigating the death as an apparent suicide. > > He had been in custody since January 10 on charges of battery and > assault with a deadly weapon > (Your joke here) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap 2fs wrote: > Eb wrote: > > > > 'Naked Guy' ex-student dies in jail > > Berkeley nudist was in custody on assault, > battery charges > > > > SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- The former college > > student known as the "Naked Guy," who gained > > notoriety in the early 1990s for attending > > class in the buff, has died in jail, > > authorities said. [snip] > > He had been in custody since January 10 on > > charges of battery and assault with a deadly > > weapon > > (Your joke here) > According to my friends who were at UCB at the time and saw him, eh, not so much. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:02:02 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: reap 2fs wrote: > Eb wrote: > > > > 'Naked Guy' ex-student dies in jail > > Berkeley nudist was in custody on assault, > battery charges > > > > SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- The former college > > student known as the "Naked Guy," who gained > > notoriety in the early 1990s for attending > > class in the buff, has died in jail, > > authorities said. [snip] > > He had been in custody since January 10 on > > charges of battery and assault with a deadly > > weapon > > (Your joke here) > I wonder if his father was one of the streakers that were running amuck during 1974? Speaking of which, I wonder if Robyn thought of streakers when writing "1974" and they didn't make the cut? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:18:28 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: reap On May 22, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > 2fs wrote: >> Eb wrote: >>> >>> 'Naked Guy' ex-student dies in jail >>> Berkeley nudist was in custody on assault, >> battery charges >>> > According to my friends who were at UCB at the time > and saw him, eh, not so much. > I used to see him sitting at a cafe on Telegraph. It was pretty casual, no one even seemed to notice. I think the only flack he got was health related, forcing him to sit outside, not inside, the cafe. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:02:40 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-die #09 On 5/20/06, Eb wrote: > > > I finally saw "The Birth of a Nation" this week, after wanting to see > it since, oh, the late '80s or so? Wow, what a *mindblowing* clash of > artistic contradictions. Couldn't believe how visionary the > filmmaking was. Couldn't believe the embarrassing cluelessness of the > second half's script. I think that's a rite of passage that any living person who's seen it has experienced. Hoo wee. The damned thing is hard to recommend and also hard not to see as essential viewing, and then you wanna puke. Sorta related, my kids went to a birthday party recently and in the gift basket was a budget DVD compilation of old cartoons (mosly WB but some from random other studios, one black & white, one silent, one more stop motion than cell, a real mixed bag) apparently now either in the public domain or close to it. Abysmal telecine of faded prints, just as bad as you remember from Channel Five as a kid. And it really did serve to remind that a lot of that early animation is among some of the Coolest Stuff Ever Created By Humans. That said, it can only be a measure of the indifferent creation of the DVD that *anything* released in 2005 (I think) includes not one but two instances of blackface performance (one by Bugs Bunny himself), an honest to god War Bonds rally ("Available in this Theatre!"), some Union-baiting humor (sort of neutral but definitely pre-McCarthy)... and you don't even wanna know about the short entitled "Heap Hep Indians". Clearly some of this should NOT be seen by the kids, but I kinda want to find a few more of these... they're historically fascinating and when they're funny, damn are they funny, and surpisingly modern in their sensibilities. Anyway. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:09:43 -0700 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Elf Power On 5/21/06, Marc Alberts wrote: > > Well, if you want to go by High Fidelity, there are as many ways to divide > a > music collection as there are grains of sand under the sun, or something > like that. For example, several of my friends have eschewed the whole "by > genre" part and gone with straight alphabetical, creating an un-kosher > mixing of blues, country, rock, classical, jazz, and whatever else they > have. Which is what I do, saving me the trouble from figureing out what the fuck genre any of my records are. Clearly all of them are jangle-pop anyway (especially the Aphex Twin catalog). - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:03:49 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Science fiction and superheroes Marc writes, > But yeah--great film. It almost > isn't even a superhero film in the same way that Battlestar Galactica (the > SciFi Channel version) almost isn't a science fiction series. Oh, that hurts. It's one thing to say that a work of genre fiction has successfully escaped the clichis of that genre; or that it deals with broader issues than the typical trappings of a genre. But if something is great, it should just be great. I'm not saying that labels are useless. I mean, someone who *hates* science fiction may still dislike any work of SF, no matter how amazing. But to act like greatness somehow absolves or dissolves a genre is just falling into a trap laid by generations of dead academics. There's no reason a work of horror cannot also be a great work of literature or cinema. Look at Stanley Kubrick -- many of his greatest works are science fiction or horror. Thanks, - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:21:32 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: reap Billy Walker, legend of the Opry killed in car wreck at 77 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060522/ap_en_mu/obit_walker Michael ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #111 ********************************