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fegmaniax-digest         Thursday, May 4 2006         Volume 15 : Number 098



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  ["Stacked Crooke]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  [Eb <ElBroome@ea]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  [2fs <jeffreyw2f]
  keef / leno                                             [HwyCDRrev@aol.com]
  Re: This Is the BBC                             [J <j.blueberry@yahoo.com>]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  ["Michael Wells"]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  ["Spotted Eagle ]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  [Dolph Chaney <d]
  RE: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  ["Bachman, Micha]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!  ["Spotted Eagle ]
  Re: Crap                                               [HSatterfld@aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:48:52 -0700
From: "Stacked Crooked" <tews@drizzle.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

p.s. eb, are you into andrew bird?  kinda reminds me of rufus.


<"Quite" is just an intensifier. Of course, how something can have degrees
of "literally" is a question for the philosophers.>

paging mark gloster...


<<"every sense of the word".>>
<This one doesn't bother me as much - just because there isn't any literal
(!) usage of the phrase that's being cheapened by the metaphorical one.>

the mania *itself* bothers me.  but on top of that, it's generally the case
(during this current mania, i mean) that it's *not true* that X is Y "in
every sense of the word".  (or, if it is, it's 'cause there's only one
sense of the word.)  people just use the phrase willy-nilly because
everybody else is using it.  they don't give half-a-fuck enough to
determine how many senses of the word it's actually true in, so they just
say "every".  and so, you know, if you hear that i've gone off and pulled a
friggin' mcveigh, you'll know why.


<Not a native speaker here, but sure, it *can* be used correctly:

- - -- ... and then he literally pulled my leg>

i was asking whether "quite literally" could theoretically be used
properly.  clearly, "literally" can (though it mostly isn't).


<Unless there is an idiom "my ship has sprung a leak"(,) that I'm not aware

of, the use of "literally" above is unnecessary.>

the figurative meaning is, basically, things aren't going too well.


<In my example it serves a purpose. In most cases contextual disambiguation
would probably suffice, 
but I wouldn't call the explicit disambiguation "incorrect".>

no, the problem is that people continually use it to mean its opposite.
e.g., "i literally went through hell getting home from work to-day."


<Finally got my copy of THIS IS THE BBC last night in the mail.>

somebody gonna upload this to usenet?  (and, while we're at it, the
marshmallow and anton barbeau CDs everybody keeps raving about?)


<Boy howdy are a lot of old school protest songs sounding ripped from
today's headlines.>

not really a protest song, i suppose (and not terribly old-school, i
guess), but "Newest Industry" pops into my head almost every day while
reading the news any more.


<Maybe if he tried discovering some fresh artists, his own music wouldn't
be turning so recycled and moldy.>

it wouldn't matter anyway, 'cause his voice is completely shot.  i honestly
wish he'd just put his energy into painting.


<PS  I still have not heard a note of either Luxor or Spooked.>

just download "Idonia" and "Full Moon In My Soul", and you'll have every
note worth hearing from the two rekkids.


<A lot of the songs which I *don't* like are more due to slick production
than bad performance/songwriting. Such as tracks off Perspex Island, Queen
Elvis, and Grotty Decay.>

YOU FUCK-STICKIN' SON OF A BITCH!  you've utterly failed to heed the advice
i had given in...uhm, is google broken?  i hate to be the bearer of bad
tidings, but i think google's fucking broken.  anyhow, try listening to
*Perspex* on headphones and at maximum volume, asshole.


<But if you count "Nextdoorland" and "Spooked" as RH's two most recent
"real" releases, I would classify both as solid efforts and not
particularly moldy.  And I didn't think I was in that much of a minority...
am I?>

i think *Nextdoorland* is pretty underrated -- but in retrospect i would
liken it to jack nicklaus winning the masters at age 46.  i'd be shocked
were robyn to ever reach that level again -- or to even come close.


<I would call Nextdoorland solid. But...did he do anything on that album
which he couldn't have done over 20 years ago? Where's the growth?>

just you check inside my pants, bay-bee!


KEN "Now we live in caves and huts, and we don't have pay tee-vee" THE
KENSTER

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Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 18:02:12 -0700
From: Eb <ElBroome@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

Stacked Crooked wrote:
> <Maybe if he tried discovering some fresh artists, his own music  
> wouldn't
> be turning so recycled and moldy.>
>
> it wouldn't matter anyway, 'cause his voice is completely shot.

Ouch. And they call *me* harsh.

> <A lot of the songs which I *don't* like are more due to slick  
> production
> than bad performance/songwriting. Such as tracks off Perspex  
> Island, Queen
> Elvis, and Grotty Decay.>
>
> YOU FUCK-STICKIN' SON OF A BITCH!  you've utterly failed to heed  
> the advice
> i had given in...uhm, is google broken?  i hate to be the bearer of  
> bad
> tidings, but i think google's fucking broken.  anyhow, try  
> listening to
> *Perspex* on headphones and at maximum volume, asshole.

Bleh. Beyond "She Doesn't Exist," most of that album is just a pallid  
blur to me.

Oh, and I haven't reached a verdict on Andrew Bird yet. Haven't ruled  
him out, at least. Need to hear a full album.

Eb (fuck-stickin' closeted glacier prick, etc.)

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Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 21:08:28 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

On 5/3/06, Stacked Crooked <tews@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> no, the problem is that people continually use it to mean its opposite.
> e.g., "i literally went through hell getting home from work to-day."


I don't know: I think this is probably correct for people living in Texas.
Although I suppose that would be only if they actually went *through* Texas.

- --

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 22:25:32 EDT
From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com
Subject: keef / leno

LENO is always repeated 7 nights later @ 2:05 am 
 
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:21:49 -0700
From: Eb  <ElBroome@earthlink.net>
Subject: Crap

I just realized that I  forgot to tape Leno's monologue last night, to  
"rate" his Keith  Richards jokes. Anyone else see it?

Eb

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Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 18:52:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: J <j.blueberry@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: This Is the BBC

I agree with Eb, Robyn's choices of covers are pretty
tiresome, especially Dylan - enough already.  He
certainly could do with some new influences,
musically.  But there's something about Spooked.  It's
raw and understated and sits in the back of the room,
so you can't really figure it out right away.  I
listened to it constantly when I first got it.  In
fact, I listened to it several times on repeat when I
was in godawfully painful natural labor with my baby
boy and it took me to far away places.  It flowed
nicely with Aphex Twin's ambient and Spiritualized (by
the way, if anyone plans on giving birth in the
future, I highly recommend meditating to Lazer Guided
Melodies).


Julie, a lurker who hasn't posted in a mighty long time.
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 09:39:15 -0500
From: "Michael Wells" <mwells@ImageWorksMfg.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

> just download "Idonia" and "Full Moon In My Soul", and you'll have
every note worth hearing from the two rekkids.


Seems a bit extreme. With some space to look back at them now I think
there's one *really* good record between them, about 2/3 of which is
SPOOKED. I'll also admit my fondness for LUXOR has been ebbing, but it's
still a move forward - or at least different - from where he was before.
I don't want to hear Robyn to do PERSPEX again, or EOL or anything else
he's already done. I'd rather hear where he's at now and where he's
going, even if it does mean putting up with some ehhhh material now and
then.

That being said he does seem to know what people are coming to see, and
set lists from the last few shows here have bent noticeably away from
newer material. So I think that's a good compromise - newer stuff on
disc, older (all-request) stuff in person.

Thinking Eddie starts threads with subject titles like this one just so
he can see it over and over and over...

Michael

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:05:32 -0700
From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

On 5/4/06, Michael Wells <mwells@imageworksmfg.com> wrote:
>
> > just download "Idonia" and "Full Moon In My Soul", and you'll have
> every note worth hearing from the two rekkids.
>
>
> Seems a bit extreme. With some space to look back at them now I think
> there's one *really* good record between them, about 2/3 of which is
> SPOOKED. I'll also admit my fondness for LUXOR has been ebbing, but it's
> still a move forward - or at least different - from where he was before.
> I don't want to hear Robyn to do PERSPEX again, or EOL or anything else
> he's already done.


If the record with the Minus 5 surfaces, it'll probably be fairly
PERSPEX-like, I think (and you may fear).  Another EOL would be VERY welcome
by me, not just because it's one of his best records, but because it's a
solid middle ground between the best of his electric stuff (best this side
of the SB's, anyhow) and solid songs that can be and sometimes are stripped
down... but hey, some of my other favorites are GOF and ME about which the
same thing could be said (although I'm not big on JFS at all).




> That being said he does seem to know what people are coming to see, and
> set lists from the last few shows here have bent noticeably away from
> newer material. So I think that's a good compromise - newer stuff on
> disc, older (all-request) stuff in person.


Yeah, in many ways he seems to have connected with his audience on a lot
deeper level lately.  So I think that bodes well, even if the M5 backing
turns out to be a little jangle-by-numbers.

"Luxor" isn't a real record-- it's just "You and Oblivion II", a clearing
house which suffers in comparison to Y&O because the tunes didn't accrue
over as long a time (although, that said, I prefer it oven INVISIBLE
HITCHCOCK for its sonic consistency).  The more I mull it, the more I really
like SPOOKED as is.  And I don't think NEXTDOORLAND is a high that's become
unattainable.  I just think any other wall-to-wall band record will suffer
in comparison (just as any all-acoustic record has a lot to live up to in
the forms of EYE and IODOT.

- -Rx

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Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 14:19:03 -0500
From: Dolph Chaney <dolphmusic@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

At 02:05 PM 5/4/2006, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote:

>"Luxor" isn't a real record-... although, that said, I prefer it oven 
>INVISIBLE
>HITCHCOCK for its sonic consistency

I feel the opposite because I so adore the variety of all the weird lo-fi 
arrangements on INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK.   LUXOR and Y&O are demos; IH is like 
a GBV album.  Different strokes...

- -- Dolph "no Dana Plato jokes here" Chaney

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:17:02 -0400
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

At 02:05 PM 5/4/2006, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote:

>>"Luxor" isn't a real record-... although, that said, I prefer it oven 
>>INVISIBLE
>>HITCHCOCK for its sonic consistency

Dolph "no Dana Plato jokes here" Chaney came back with:

>I feel the opposite because I so adore the variety of all the weird lo-fi 
>arrangements on INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK.   LUXOR and Y&O are demos; IH is like 
>a GBV album.  Different strokes...

Yeah, what about the weird lo-fi arrangement on "The Abandoned Brain"? Robyn
singing accompanied only by a Hammond B3 in the background. I tend to think 
that "Bones In The Ground" is from INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK, but then I remember it's
from IODOT. I'll give a big edge in personal preference to INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK
over LUXOR as well. 

Michael B.

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 14:59:15 -0700
From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I've got botox in my asscheeks!

On 5/4/06, Bachman, Michael <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, what about the weird lo-fi arrangement on "The Abandoned Brain"?
> Robyn
> singing accompanied only by a Hammond B3 in the background.


Aha.  That's not on the vinyl version.  And it's totally cool.  See?

I think that I tend to remember that record as dominated by two of my least
favorite and (at least seemingly to me) longest Robyn tracks: "Pit of Souls"
(an instrumental without even much noteworthy guitar?) and "Let There Be
More Darkness" (fun to hear once).  And "Blues in A" which is... what it
is.  The band stuff sounds like outtakes from Groovy Decay, which even at
the time was not my favorite record.  Again, the CD is in improvement.

In all honesty, I like "You & Oblivion" better than either "Luxor" or IH...

- -Rx

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 21:07:21 EDT
From: HSatterfld@aol.com
Subject: Re: Crap

>From: <ElBroome@earthlink.net>
>
>I just realized that I forgot to tape Leno's monologue last night, to 
>"rate" his Keith Richards jokes. Anyone else see it?

Alas, there was no mention of Keith Richards in Monday night's
monologue.  (Was he on vacation when the incident actually occurred?)

Hollie

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