From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #66 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 23 2006 Volume 15 : Number 066 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs / REAP sharing the copy machine with the allnite junkies ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: bbc collection ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] RE: bbc collection ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: allnite junkies ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: allnite junkies [Tom Clark ] Re: allnite junkies [Eb ] Re: allnite junkies [Steve Talkowski ] Re: allnite junkies ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: allnite junkies [Eb ] Re: allnite junkies ["Stewart C. Russell" ] preppy reap [Eb ] Re: allnite junkies ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: allnite junkies [Eb ] RE: All I've been listening to lately is... ["michael wells" ] This Is The BBC [Tulloch ] Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) ["m swedene" ] Re: Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs [2fs ] Re: Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs [Eb ] Re: Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) [FSThomas ] Re: Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) ["Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs / REAP sharing the copy machine with the allnite junkies On 3/21/06, 2fs wrote: > > Really though I can't say much about the sound of the recording, as > it's presented in myspace's usual thrilling lo-fi. Why is everyone so > het up about myspace? It works only maybe half the time, its interface > is glitchy, and it's overrun by smarmy logrollers. It's kinda turned into, for now at least, the "coin of the realm" in terms of booking shows, in a sort of lowest common denominator way. Since everyone from the very fakest band in the world to the very realest ones have myspace sites, promoters can kinda use it to get a standardized picture of what a band sounds like, how many fans they have, how many and what kind of gigs they're playing, etc. I know promoters have talked to me about gigs and then called me back having found our myspace site and said "Let's move the date further from your gig at (venue X)". Basically it puts everything into a kind of "industry standard" form that takes less thought than navigating a band's unique, "cool" website, and promoters like that. In short, myspace is the early 21st century equivalent of being at Kinko's past midnight making flyers for the gig. Which is a good thing because, as I've just discovered, suddenly Kinko's actually closes at 8pm (which in turn is probably in no small part because everyone does the kind of thing they used to do at Kinkos at home). As to why someone would use myspace as a social tool, all I can say is U rRock JEFFn lol! yet wud luhv a chat when it works for yuh :) hee - -rX lol1 (Admittedly I can't even simulate that particular flavor of netspeak especially well, and I shouldn't find it as frustrating as I do.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:18:19 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: bbc collection robynhitchcock.com has posted some details, including the artwork, about an upcoming collection of bbc sessions: On April 10th, This is the BBC is being released by Hux Records in the UK. It's a collection of BBC sessions recorded by Andy Kershaw and Mark Radcliffe in the 1990's and features Kimberley Rew, Tim Keegan, Jake Kyle and Rob Allum. Track List: 1. Man With a Woman's Shadow 2. Heliotrope 3. DeChirico Street 4. The cheese Alarm 5. Jewels For Sophia 6. Polly on the Shore 7. Where Do You Go When You Die? 8. I Saw Nick Drake 9. It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry 10. Andy Kershaw Jingle 11. Birds in Perspex 12. Sally Was a Legend 13. Elizabeth Jade 14. Madonna of the Wasps woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:39:59 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: bbc collection On 3/22/06, wojizzle forizzle wrote: > > > On April 10th, This is the BBC is being released by Hux Records > in the UK. It's a collection of BBC sessions recorded by Andy > Kershaw and Mark Radcliffe in the 1990's and features Kimberley > Rew, Tim Keegan, Jake Kyle and Rob Allum. > > Track List: Say, this looks like a mighty strong selection of material from a sort of "meh" period for proper RH lp's. Anyone recall any details of these specific performances? - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:46:12 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: bbc collection Woj, I take it then that we will be able to order it from robynhitchcock.com? Thanks, Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On Behalf Of wojizzle forizzle Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:18 PM To: fagmaniax; fegmaniax-announce@smoe.org; robynhitchcockclub@yahoogroups.com; vegetablefriends@yahoogroups.com Subject: bbc collection robynhitchcock.com has posted some details, including the artwork, about an upcoming collection of bbc sessions: On April 10th, This is the BBC is being released by Hux Records in the UK. It's a collection of BBC sessions recorded by Andy Kershaw and Mark Radcliffe in the 1990's and features Kimberley Rew, Tim Keegan, Jake Kyle and Rob Allum. Track List: 1. Man With a Woman's Shadow 2. Heliotrope 3. DeChirico Street 4. The cheese Alarm 5. Jewels For Sophia 6. Polly on the Shore 7. Where Do You Go When You Die? 8. I Saw Nick Drake 9. It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry 10. Andy Kershaw Jingle 11. Birds in Perspex 12. Sally Was a Legend 13. Elizabeth Jade 14. Madonna of the Wasps woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:14:10 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: allnite junkies > It's kinda turned into, for now at least, the "coin of the realm" > in terms > of booking shows, in a sort of lowest common denominator way. Since > everyone from the very fakest band in the world to the very realest > ones > have myspace sites, promoters can kinda use it to get a > standardized picture > of what a band sounds like, how many fans they have, how many and > what kind > of gigs they're playing, etc. I know promoters have talked to me > about gigs > and then called me back having found our myspace site and said > "Let's move > the date further from your gig at (venue X)". Basically it puts > everything > into a kind of "industry standard" form that takes less thought than > navigating a band's unique, "cool" website, and promoters like that. I half-know an annoying music geek who seems determined to hype every obscure band he likes with a "faked" MySpace profile page. Check, say, http://www.myspace.com/deafschool for starters, and then look at all the bands who are Deaf School's "friends." And then look at their friends, and their friends.... He has them all networked together, like his own imaginary army. Weird. Saw the recent "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" film over the weekend. Boy, was that a meandering mess. I recommend "Once Were Warriors," though (hi James). Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:55:59 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: allnite junkies On 3/22/06, Eb wrote: > > > I half-know an annoying music geek who seems determined to hype every > obscure band he likes with a "faked" MySpace profile page. Check, > say, http://www.myspace.com/deafschool for starters, and then look at > all the bands who are Deaf School's "friends." And then look at their > friends, and their friends.... He has them all networked together, > like his own imaginary army. Weird. What's also strange is that I had never heard of The Deaf School until a few months ago, when my girlfriend mentioned that she was good friends (the real-life kind) with a former member of the band, and I had to look them up to see what their deal was. What does one do with one's imaginary myspace friends army once it is amassed, I wonder? All I can really imagine is that you then "friend" your personal profile and pretend that cool bands are your friends. Apparently a lot of people think that amassing friends is one way you can "win at the internet". I can see it helping business-wise, but as far as personal ambitions go it's hard to see that as a compelling goal. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:14:37 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: allnite junkies On Mar 22, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Apparently a lot of people think that amassing friends is one way > you can > "win at the internet". I can see it helping business-wise, but as > far as > personal ambitions go it's hard to see that as a compelling goal. You are so obviously not 17 years old. - -tc [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:25:14 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: allnite junkies > What does one do with one's imaginary myspace friends army once it > is amassed, I wonder? All I can really imagine is that you then > "friend" > your personal profile and pretend that cool bands are your friends. I don't think that's the motivation. He just sees himself as sort of a "prophet" of good musical taste, and wants to boldly push his pet faves on others. He's pretty screwy. If you saw pictures of him, your eyes would bulge. His wardrobe falls somewhere between early Split Enz, Bozo the Clown and Mrs. Beasley. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:41:47 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: allnite junkies On Mar 22, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Eb wrote: > He just sees himself as sort of a "prophet" of good musical taste, > and wants to boldly push his pet faves on others. He's pretty screwy. Gee, we wouldn't know anyone like THAT on our little mailing list now, would we? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:40:05 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: allnite junkies On 3/22/06, Eb wrote: > > > I don't think that's the motivation. He just sees himself as sort of > a "prophet" of good musical taste, and wants to boldly push his pet > faves on others. He's pretty screwy. If you saw pictures of him, your > eyes would bulge. His wardrobe falls somewhere between early Split > Enz, Bozo the Clown and Mrs. Beasley. Gotcha... a more idiosyncratic malady than plain ol' "internet disease". In the interest of full disclosure (which is of course not of interest to anyone) I do run one "fake" myspace page for a defunct band, but it is in the interests of the furthering the "family business": http://www.myspace.com/thunderhill - -Rx (Jim Broome III, sort of) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:19:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: allnite junkies Steve Talkowski wrote: >> He just sees himself as sort of a "prophet" of good musical >> taste, and wants to boldly push his pet faves on others. He's >> pretty screwy. > > Gee, we wouldn't know anyone like THAT on our little mailing list > now, would we? ;) Until you see this nut in action, you don't know how good you got it, Sparky. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:00:56 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: allnite junkies Eb wrote: > > Saw the recent "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" film over the > weekend. Boy, was that a meandering mess. Yup, an awful ruination of a film. Though the knitted barf was briefly amusing. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:35:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: preppy reap Associated Press Worldstream Bernard Lacoste, who spent more than 40 years at the helm of the Lacoste clothing empire best known for its crocodile-embossed polo shirts, has died, the company said Wednesday. He was 74. Lacoste, who is widely credited with turning the family sportswear business into a major apparel company, died Tuesday in a Paris hospital, said company spokesman Philippe Lacoste, nephew of Bernard Lacoste. The family did not provide the cause of death, saying only that Lacoste, who stepped down last year as president, had been suffering from a "serious illness" for more than a year. Lacoste succeeded his father, tennis player Rene Lacoste, as president of the Paris-based clothing manufacturer in 1963. The company was founded in 1933. He presided over the international expansion of the group and added women's and accessory lines to the company's sporty look. The Lacoste polo shirts adorned with the little crocodile insignia have for generations been the company staple, and its identifying mark is recognized around the world. Lacoste, born in Paris on June 22, 1931, handed over the reins of the company to his younger brother Michel, in September but remained "honorary president" until his death. Lacoste is survived by his wife, Sachiko, and his three children from a first marriage, Beryl, Jacques and Camille. No date was immediately set for funeral services, Philippe Lacoste said. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:28:08 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: allnite junkies On 3/22/06, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Eb wrote: > > > > Saw the recent "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" film over the > > weekend. Boy, was that a meandering mess. > > Yup, an awful ruination of a film. Though the knitted barf was briefly > amusing. Geez, I didn't find it that bad, and expected to loathe it. Now, it wasn't great, either. Which leaves us with both a film and a TV adaptation, neither of which is either definitive or a travesty. Oh, well. It is true, none of the added material really *increased* the narrative cohesion as promised. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:32:44 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: allnite junkies Tom Clark wrote: >> Apparently a lot of people think that amassing friends is one way >> you can >> "win at the internet". I can see it helping business-wise, but as >> far as >> personal ambitions go it's hard to see that as a compelling goal. > > You are so obviously not 17 years old. Well, at least 17 year olds don't include attachments of type application/pkcs7-signature which have a name of smime.p7s Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:35:06 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: All I've been listening to lately is... Myself, I've been slap in the middle of a strong batch of Americana/folk stuff for the past few months...Greg Trooper's MAKE IT THROUGH THIS WORLD from last year, plus the freshly minted HOPE AND OTHER CASUALTIES from Mark Erelli and Peter Mulvey's THE KNUCKLEBALL SUITE. Plus new material from Jeffrey Foucault and Chris Smither is due shortly, and the early word is both are killers. And if you're like me, you probably think Peter Case is one of our greatest songwriters. You may also share my distaste for (most of) his vocals; if so, last month's release A CASE FOR CASE - A TRIBUTE TO THE SONGS OF PETER CASE is for you. Go here to see who all plays on this three disc monster http://tinyurl.com/qyyrd This long-overdue tribute is about as good as it gets. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:43:46 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: allnite junkies Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > Geez, I didn't find it that bad, and expected to loathe it. Now, it wasn't > great, either. Which leaves us with both a film and a TV adaptation, > neither of which is either definitive or a travesty. Oh, well. The film was a travesty; wtf did they do with Zaphod's other head? And that whole Humma Kavula thing -- why? The TV series, though looking like it was made on a pocket-change budget, is how all the characters of Hitchikers should look. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 01:07:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Tulloch Subject: This Is The BBC Well, I was more then a little bit pleasantly surprised when this dropped through the letter box this morning, nearly three weeks ahead of the announced release date of April 10th. I ordered it a couple of days ago directly from the Hux Records website - www.huxrecords.com - and, whilst it was slightly dearer than I've seen advertised elsewhere, you can't fault them for speed of delivery (plus I figured that maybe Robyn might get a bit more money than from a third party dealer). The tracks all come from four BBC sessions for Andy Kershaw and Mark Radcliffe and break down as follows; 7 tracks from September 1999 with Kimberley, Tim Keegan, Jake Kyle (bass) & Rob Allum (drums) 5 tracks from August 1996 with Tim and Jake (although 2 are Robyn on his own) 2 tracks solo, one from Feb 1996 and one from an earlier August 1996 session. There aren't really any surprises in the song selection, the only ones that haven't previously appeared on a Hitchcock album being the cover of Dylan's It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry and the Andy Kershaw Jingle (although I'm sure you'll recognise the tune!). Although this was initially a disappointment, I'm happy to say that the disc works really well as a whole, the small combo arrangements and mostly acoustic instrumentation giving an intimate, downhome feel to the material. Highlights for me after a couple of listens are Polly On The Shore, taken slightly slower and more seriously than on You And Oblivion, the eastern/modal intro to Cheese Alarm, the rolling, rhythmic interplay of guitar and bass on Where Do You Go When You Die? (Jake's double bass is a joy throughout the album), a storming Elizabeth Jade with Tim on lead and the lovely acoustic intro to Madonna Of The Wasps, which replaces the acappella "Is this love" of the original. The booklet is very interesting, the front cover being a Raymond Hitchcock painting and the inside cover is Robyn's painting of his father. The back cover is a wartime photo of Jack and Ruby Hitchcock, who I assume are Robyn's grandparents, and there is a Robyn poem ("After john Hegley") in praise of the BBC which references Peter Cook and Spike Milligan. My feeling is that Robyn is paying homage to the importance of the BBC to his family and the generation that were so reliant on the corporation for entertainment, news and morale boosting during the War years. All in all, it's a lovely package for the faithful but would also make a great primer for anyone not familiar with Robyn's post-Egyptians work. It's also sonically far superior to the previous Kershaw Sessions CD - Auntie enters the digital age (smiling cryptically and holding a bunch of radishes). Tulloch. PS In an odd coincidence, the other CD that the postie brought today was On The Shore by Trees, which also has a version of Polly On The Shore! The Purple Bottle - "Howling without symmetry" http://thepurplebottle.blogspot.com/ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos  NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:57:24 -0500 From: "m swedene" Subject: Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) I found this. It looks like a Disney cartoon had sex with a cat. http://pics.livejournal.com/drake57/pic/0002aseb/g66 thanks. mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:34:17 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs On 3/22/06, Tulloch wrote: > 2fs wrote: > > and it's overrun by smarmy logrollers. > > Could you explain this expression to an ignorant Brit, please? I'd love to call someone a "smarmy logroller" but would like to use it properly! Oh, I'm talking about all the folks whose sites seem designed primarily to show off their seven zillion "friends" - plus the sort of trendiness of the whole "myspace" phenomenon. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Matthew Sweet & Susanna Hoffs 2fs wrote: > Oh, I'm talking about all the folks whose sites seem designed > primarily to show off their seven zillion "friends" - plus the sort of > trendiness of the whole "myspace" phenomenon. Speaking of "REAPs" and MySpace, someone recently pointed me at this site: http://www.mydeathspace.com Pretty eerie. I think the site also proves that...well...teenagers really oughta drive a bit more safely. Eb PS I guess bits and pieces of our "Chef" predictions for tonight were true, but we didn't entirely get it right. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:11:34 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) m swedene wrote: > I found this. > It looks like a Disney cartoon had sex with a cat. > > http://pics.livejournal.com/drake57/pic/0002aseb/g66 Looks like a living Piccachu. - -- fs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:22:56 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) On Mar 22, 2006, at 11:57 PM, m swedene wrote: > I found this. > It looks like a Disney cartoon had sex with a cat. > > http://pics.livejournal.com/drake57/pic/0002aseb/g66 > > thanks. > > mike Looks like a Red Panda. Maybe with a recessive color trait. - - Steve __________ No matter where you go, there you are. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:51:06 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: now on the live music archive... ...the portland and seattle shows from the recent tour with the minus 5! thanks to geech and gilde for taping! both shows are available in flac, mp3 and ogg. enjoy! Robyn Hitchcock & the Minus 3 w/Sean Nelson 3.3.06 Robyn's birthday Doug Fir Lounge Portland, OR http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=34984 WM-D3 w/core-sound LCBs > XLII-s > Peak > Toast > Dime Robyn Hitchcock Pete Buck Scott McCaughey Bill Reiflin John Ramberg Robyn's birthday, the second of a two night swing through Oregon. The previous evening in Eugene will be up in the next few weeks. Minus 5 set to follow in a few days. Positioned about halfway between board & stage, mics in hat, excellent clean audience recording. Tape flip post Rocketship applause, did a little futzing to minimize. I am not jotting down the whole, who played what and when because I have the flu and just want to get this up and out. Sean Nelson of Harvey Danger makes frequent harmonic appearances here. Dig the nimble sticksmnship of Mr. Bill Reiflin. Marvel at the arpeggiated luxury of Mr. Rickenbacker himself. And marvel at birthday boy himself, putting together one hell of a nice birthday show. d101 president.aif d102 visions of johanna.aif d103 all right yeah.aif d104 never stop bleeding.aif d105 the speed of things.aif d106 long, long, long.aif d107 if you were a priest.aif d108 acid bird.aif d109 madonna of the wasps.aif d110 el papa.aif d111 tarantula.aif d112 adventure rocket ship.aif d113 flesh number 1.aif d114 chinese bones.aif d115 somewhere apart.aif d201 creeped out american girl.aif d202 sally was a legend.aif d203 underground sun.aif d204 beautiful queen.aif d205 driving around.aif d206 cigarettes, coffee, booze.aif d207 beware of darkness.aif d208 8 miles hgh.aif d209 destroy you.aif d210 the higsons.aif Robyn Hitchcock & The Minus Five 3/4/06 The Crocodile Seattle, WA http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=34985 Solo: 01 It.s Love (?) 02 Leopard 03 I Something You 04 talk With Scott McCaughey: 05 Queen Elvis 06 Sometimes A Blond 07 talk With The Minus Five: 08 If You Were A Priest 09 Acid Bird 10 Viva Sea-Tac 11 talk 12 Tarantula 13 Adventure Rocket Ship 01 intro 02 Briggs 03 Chinese Bones 04 Somewhere Apart 05 Underground Sun 06 Beautiful Queen 07 Madonna Of The Wasps 08 Driving Around 09 applause First Encore: 10 Cigarettes, Coffee, Booze 11 8 Miles High 12 Queen Of Eyes 13 applause Second Encore: 14 Destroy You 15 Listening To The Higsons The Minus Five: Peter Buck Scott McCaughey Bill Reiflin John Ramberg Schoeps MK-4 > custom preamp > Sony SBM-1 a/d with Oade line stage mod > DAT @ 44.1kHz Additional processing in SoundForge 8: Waves L1+ Ultramaximizer (limiter / dither / noise shaping) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:04:44 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: Any idea what this is? (100% no robyn) On 3/22/06, m swedene wrote: > > I found this. > It looks like a Disney cartoon had sex with a cat. > > http://pics.livejournal.com/drake57/pic/0002aseb/g66 So... like... what is it? How'd you find it? Tried to drum up some context on my own with no success. - -Rx ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #66 *******************************