From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #50 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 1 2006 Volume 15 : Number 050 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Gone Smoke [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] iTunes question [2fs ] Slim's, SF - 27 Feb 2006 [KB Larsen ] RE: Slim's, SF - 27 Feb 2006 ["Michael Wells" ] It's a delight for all the family [James Dignan ] Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend [Tom Clark ] Re: iTunes question [Tom Clark ] Re: iTunes question ["Spotted Eagle Ray" ] Re: iTunes question [Tom Clark ] Re: iTunes question ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: iTunes question [2fs ] Anyone want to meet up before the Seattle show? ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend [Eb ] Barbeau in Blighty ["Matt Sewell" ] REAP ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: Barbeau in Blighty ["Brian Nupp" ] B&S [FSThomas ] NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock 2003 March 02 Queen Elizabeth Hall London (on the occasion of Robyn's 50th birthday) FLAC reseed from STG [] Re: Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend [walkunafraid@nexgo.de] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:17:02 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Gone Smoke Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 28 2006 Volume 15 : Number 049 > Yet Another REAP [Tom Clark ] > From: > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:29:20 -0800 > From: Tom Clark > Subject: Yet Another REAP > Dennis Weaver, 81 > http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060227/D8G1JQA80.html > It's a bad time to be an actor in your 80's apparently. "Aaah, I'm a-comin' Mister Dillon" <\limp> My Dad kept doing that impersonation right into his eighties... Missed 'Trams of old London' again, curses curses. Just off to see Hayes Carll and Billy Miller - will report back tomorrow. Wilco Johnson was on fine form on Friday, with Norman Watt-Roy on demonic bass and a fabulous _sympathetic_ drummer. Best song was one about a girl in Cairo. Oh and he encored with (surprise surprise) 'Back in the night' and 'She does it right'. No 'Roxette' however. Downside: the PA was scandalous and the support band should have been ashamed of themselves. - - Mike Godwin n.p. the guitar PS Anyone else planning to go to Cappadocia for the eclipse? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:32:53 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: iTunes question So is there any difference - in terms of how songs are selected - between iTunes' "Party Shuffle" and its shuffle mode as applied to the library as a whole? I know one can restrict selections in Party Shuffle - but if it's unrestricted, I'm sort of assuming it's basically the same thing? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:25:32 -0800 (PST) From: KB Larsen Subject: Slim's, SF - 27 Feb 2006 Robyn Hitchcock 27 Feb 2006 Slim's, SF, CA Minus 5 opened Acoustic solo: Gigolo Aunt Aquarium One Long Pair of Eyes Beautiful Girl Electric w/Minus 3: If You Were a Priest Acid Bird When I Was a Kid Ole Tarantula Madonna of the Wasps * A Man's Got to Know His Limitations, Briggs * Somewhere Apart Sally Was a Legend Creeped Out Underground Sun Beautiful Queen Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) Encore w/Minus 5: Cigarettes, Coffee & Booze [Peter - bass; Scott - guitar, lead vocal] Eight Miles High * I Wanna Destroy You Second Encore w/Minus 5: Listening to the Higsons [Peter - drums; Scott - guitar; Bill - bass; Robyn - vocal only] * Peter plays a 12-string Rickenbacker Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:57:19 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Slim's, SF - 27 Feb 2006 > Acoustic solo: > Gigolo Aunt > Aquarium > One Long Pair of Eyes > Beautiful Girl Nice. Very nice. Is it just me, or have setlists taken a turn for the *much* better over the past year or so? I know the last batch of Schuba's shows were splifferiffic in that regard. It's almost like the last three albums barely exist, and instead we get songs like IODOT, Glass, Swirling, Winchester and the above (which pains me not at all). Has Tom "moondog" Clark reported in yet? MW ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:05:39 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: It's a delight for all the family Let us go home and take some cocoa. Oh, and re:"compact cassettes", I had some 360 (90 commercial, 270 home recorded), but never liked the medium - too hissy and too prone to damage. It's now down to 91 (24 and 67 respecitvely) - many of them things that have never been released in digital form. Plus a box of demos and roughs (I still use tape for my own recording, and - unless I finally work out how to record via my computer - that's unlikely to change in the short term). James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:26:26 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Slim's--2/27/06 and show update In case this hasn't been posted yet, a friend who was at the show told me about the show. Minus 5 set (incuding a Neil Innes song) Robyn--acoustic Gigolo Aunt (Barrett) Aquarium One Long Pair of Eyes Beautiful Girl w/Minus 3 If You ere a Priest Acid Bird When I Was a Kid Ole Tarantula Madonna of the Wasps A Man's Got to Know His Limitations, Briggs Somewhere Apart Sally Was a Legend Creeped Out American Girl Underground Sun Beautiful Queen Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) encore w/Minus 5 Cigarette, Coffee, and Booze Eight Miles High I Wanna Destroy You 2nd encore (Peter drumming and Bill on bass) Listening to the Higsons btw--Scott is playing at the Parkside tonight. The other members of the Minus 5 are probably going to show up. There seems to be no confirmation that Robyn plans to attend as well, but I bet the show will be pretty freaking fantastic, so don't miss it if you don't have to. Later, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:47:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend Great show last night in San Francisco. I was supposed to meet Nick Winkworth and Chriz Franz at a Thai place around the corner beforehand, but there was no close parking near the restaurant and it was fucking pouring. So I was lucky enough to find a spot directly across from Slim's and just listened to the old iPod until the rain cleared. By then it was about ten minutes until the doors opened so I headed across the street and got in line. Once inside it was only a matter of moments until Chris and Nick arrived. Turns out they didn't get a chance to eat either so we all mowed on Gardenburgers and beers. Yum. So, Minus 5 came out and cranked through a rocking set of faves. I probably could have written a setlist if I'd thought about it, but it was a good mixture of songs from "...War Against Music...", "Down With Wilco" and the current album. I was bummed that Ken Stringfellow wasn't in the band 'cuz his keyboards and vocals add a nice touch to their sound. At one point Scott said something along the lines of "this one's for Ken Stringfellow, wherever he is". Made me think there was a falling out. ?? Between sets I weaseled my way to the front of the stage and positioned myself to Robyn's left and Pete's right, with a clear view of the drum kit. Robyn came out first and ran through his acoustic numbers, reminiscing about recording at Hyde Street and the fact that the "Eye" master tapes are still over there. Blah blah, plug in already. On came Scott, Peter and Bill to thunderous applause, opened with "If You Were A Priest" and never let up from then on. I've been looking at the recent set lists and it's funny how my eyes just go through the songs and I go "yeah...ok...uh huh...check...sounds good..." etc..., but being there while they create the jangly atmosphere of "Acid Bird" and tear the house down on "Driving Aloud" just makes me so glad I went, and didn't pussy out by dismissing it as just another gig. The trio of "Sally Was A Legend"/"Creeped Out American Girl"/"Undergound Sun" was an unexpected rock fest that had everyone grooving. The encore was great with M5's John Ramberg returning to the stage for the duration. Scott definitely nailed the bass line to "Eight Miles High" and it was especially cool to have Pete Buck standing not four feet from me playing it on a Roger McGuinn Limited Edition Rickenbacker 12-string. After the band left the stage, the house lights came on and the techs started packing up the mics. All of a sudden Pete and Scott jumped back up and told the guys they want to do one more song. Everyone went ballistic as Pete sat behind the drum kit and Bill picked up the bass. As Scott started strumming the opening chords of "Listening to The Higsons", Pete was practically standing up trying to get his attention. With a demented fire in his eyes, Pete was slamming the drumsticks together like "faster faster! play faster!!" They finally got the song off the ground with Robyn - sans guitar - singing and doing his goofy, arm waving, dancing. After the show Scott, Pete and Robyn hung out at the merch booth signing stuff while Bill and John helped pack up. I managed to snag a set list and have everybody sign it, which was a bit fanboy, but cool nonetheless: http://www.denisvengeance.com/robyn/SlimsSetlist.jpg All in all I couldn't think of a better way to spend a rainy night in San Francisco. - -tc p.s. Pete Buck is just ambivalent toward me now. Isn't that worse than outright hatred? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:31:18 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: iTunes question On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:32 AM, 2fs wrote: > So is there any difference - in terms of how songs are selected - > between iTunes' "Party Shuffle" and its shuffle mode as applied to the > library as a whole? I know one can restrict selections in Party > Shuffle - but if it's unrestricted, I'm sort of assuming it's > basically the same thing? Correct. You just have a little more control using Party Shuffle. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:48:26 -0800 From: "Spotted Eagle Ray" Subject: Re: iTunes question On 2/28/06, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:32 AM, 2fs wrote: > > > So is there any difference - in terms of how songs are selected - > > between iTunes' "Party Shuffle" and its shuffle mode as applied to the > > library as a whole? I know one can restrict selections in Party > > Shuffle - but if it's unrestricted, I'm sort of assuming it's > > basically the same thing? > > Correct. You just have a little more control using Party Shuffle. While we're at it, I know I'm not the only one to have discovered that this shit is not truly random anyway. I'm dead sure, and other people have mentioned noticing this, too, that the shuffle has a tendency to linger in a certain section of the library for a while... you usually don't get songs from the same record right in a row, but you might get a set of ten or twelve songs that'll include three or four from the same album, which is pretty unlikely when you're pulling from a very large library. Anyone know how it actually works, or doesn't? - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:24:32 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: iTunes question On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > On 2/28/06, Tom Clark wrote: >> >> Correct. You just have a little more control using Party Shuffle. > > > While we're at it, I know I'm not the only one to have discovered > that this > shit is not truly random anyway. I'm dead sure, and other people have > mentioned noticing this, too, that the shuffle has a tendency to > linger in a > certain section of the library for a while... you usually don't get > songs > from the same record right in a row, but you might get a set of ten or > twelve songs that'll include three or four from the same album, > which is > pretty unlikely when you're pulling from a very large library. > Anyone know > how it actually works, or doesn't? The shear amount of bugs filed against the randomness feature in iTunes would make your head spin. Truth is, it's as random as it can be, taking into account the fact that true randomness is impossible. Newer versions of iTunes actually have a manual intervention feature whereby you can tell it to double-check the randomosity* of the next track to make sure it's not from the same artist/album/grouping as the previous track. - -tc *made that one up, but I like it! [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:42:10 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: iTunes question Tom Clark wrote: > > you can tell it to double-check the randomosity* of the next > track to make sure it's not from the same artist/album/grouping as > the previous track. But really random things would appear to have clusters, so the check is actually making the selection *less* random. Stewart (who is in Edmonton. They have trolley buses!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:06:42 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: iTunes question On 2/28/06, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Tom Clark wrote: > > > > you can tell it to double-check the randomosity* of the next > > track to make sure it's not from the same artist/album/grouping as > > the previous track. > > But really random things would appear to have clusters, so the check is > actually making the selection *less* random. Well, right: but the way *people* think of "random" is different from the way mathematicians think of it. Mathematicians are also people - but you know what I mean. Anyway: if one track by That One Guy comes up, another track by the same artist is exactly as likely to come up as one by any other artist with the same number of tracks in the collection. I think. And it would appear (or at least, it's never happened to me) that iTunes does not allow instant replay (i.e., the same song playing twice in a row - even though the same song is as likely as any other particular song to come up in a random environment). But yes: you can adjust it so its "randomness" more closely approaches your own definition of the same (which somehow wards off tracks by the same artist or from the same album - which, if you think about it, couldn't be random). You still can't make it go to work in your place so you can take a day off, dammit. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:12:02 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: Anyone want to meet up before the Seattle show? Email me offlist (unless you feel the need to generate random traffic), but as I have never met any of you Fegs in real life I think it would be, in the words of my junior English teacher in high school, "a hoot" to meet one or two. Cheers! Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:34:12 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > > p.s. Pete Buck is just ambivalent toward me now. Isn't that worse > than outright hatred? Forgot to mention that I updated my "Peter Buck Hates Me" story: http://www.denisvengeance.com/robyn/PeterBuckHatesMe.html - -tc [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:45:14 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend Tom Clark wrote: > So I was lucky enough to find a spot directly across from Slim's > and just listened to the old iPod until the rain cleared. Hrm. Don't we have a rule against product placement in show reviews? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:20:12 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Barbeau in Blighty Morning Fegs Anton Barbeau is, even as we speak, hurtling towards the UK. Once he gets here he's playing a few shows, including a couple with my little band The New Moon. I reckon Anton just gets better - the new album he's been working on promises to be even more amazing than the last few, so I can't recommend these shows enough - particularly the one at the Port Mahon in Oxford where we'll be honoured with the presence of Pat Fish aka The Jazz Butcher. Last time he played at the Port was one of the best shows I've ever seen by anyone ever. Anyway: March 2: The Living Room, Cambridge. With Hamfatter and others tba March 9: The Betsy Trotwood, 56 Faringdon Road London March 12: The Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Oxford. With The New Moon & Lagrima March 16: The Beehive, Prospect Rd, Swindon. Possibly with The New Moon March 18: The Port Mahon, St Clements, Oxford. With Pat Fish & The New Moon March 24: The Exeter Hall, Oxford Rd, Oxford. Hope some of you can make some of these... Cheers Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:39:27 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: REAP Linda Smith, 48 Jeremy Hardy yesterday called her the greatest living Englishwoman - not far wrong, I reckon. Certainly funniest person on the radio. RIP. Cheers Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:23:50 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: Barbeau in Blighty - ---- Original Message ---- From: matt_sewell: >Anton Barbeau is, even as we speak, hurtling towards the UK. Once he >gets >here he's playing a few shows, including a couple with my little band >The >New Moon. ... particularly the one at the Port Mahon >in >Oxford where we'll be honoured with the presence of Pat Fish aka The >Jazz >Butcher. Wow! Have fun Matt! >March 9: The Betsy Trotwood, 56 Faringdon Road London Hey! I've been there (to see the Would Be Goods in Oct 04) - -American Feg, Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:04:46 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: B&S Just an FYI for the interested: Belle & Sebastian are on Conan O'Brien Tonight. - -ferris. - -- FS Thomas | Interactive Developer | fsthomas-at-ochremedia.com 404.758.8616 (home/office) | 404.274.1632 (mobile) | ferraatu (AIM) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:10:42 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock 2003 March 02 Queen Elizabeth Hall London (on the occasion of Robyn's 50th birthday) FLAC reseed from STG - ----- Forwarded message from DIME ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 84601 Title: Robyn Hitchcock 2003 March 02 Queen Elizabeth Hall London (on the occasion of Robyn's 50th birthday) FLAC reseed from STG Size: 725.62 MB Category: Singer/Songwriter Uploaded by: Vierstein91 Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a reseed to celebrate Robyn's birthday. Taped by Matthjis and seeded as a torrent at STG a couple of years back - thanks Matthjis. The info file was not part of the original torrent - it came from the STG messageboard. Info from STG : Robyn Hitchcock 2003 March 2 Queen Elizabeth Hall London (on the occasion of Robyn's 50th birthday) With special guests, including Tim Keegan, Chris Cox, Kemberley Rew, Deni Bonet, John Paul Jones, Peter Blegvad, Morris Windsor, and Alan Rickman. Source info: Sony ECM-717 microphone > Sony MZ-N707 MD (stereo setting) -> .wav -> .flac CD1: 1 Intro 2 Ghost Ship 3 I Got The Hots 4 Arms of Love 5 Chinese Bones 6 I'm Only You 7 Queen Elvis (w/ Tim Keegan) 8 I Saw Nick Drake (w/ Tim and Chris Cox) 9 I Feel Beatiful (w/ Tim, Chris and Kimberley Rew) 10 De Chirco Street (w/ Tim, Chris, Kim, Deni Bonet, John Paul Jones, Peter Blegvad and Morris Windsor) 11 Open The Door Richard (with all) (Intermission) CD 2: 1 Intro 2 Fly By Night [Blegvad] (Robyn, Peter and JP) 3 Ice Fishing [Blegvad/Jones] (Robyn, Peter and JP) 4 Sally Was A Legend (Robyn, Peter, John Paul, and Kim) 5 I Often Dream of Trains (Robyn and Kim) 6 She Doesn't Exist Anymore 7 Dark Princess 8 America 9 Madonna of the Wasps 10 Balloon Man 11 Jewels for Sophia 12 Talking (First Encore) 13 She Said, She Said 14 A Man's Got To Know His Limitations, Briggs (Second Encore) 15 The Speed of Things 16 We Like Bananas Btw the poem read by Alan Rickman is not in this recording - i missed it while switching the minidiscs.... the rest should be complete - no 12 on disc two is not the poem but just Robyn talking. Enjoy the recording! Matthijs. - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:54:17 +0100 (CET) From: walkunafraid@nexgo.de Subject: Re: Bill Rieflin is my new boyfriend > Tom Clark wrote: > I was bummed that Ken >Stringfellow wasn't in the band 'cuz his keyboards and vocals add a >nice touch to their sound. At one point Scott said something along >the lines of "this one's for Ken Stringfellow, wherever he is". Made >me think there was a falling out. ?? No falling out. Ken is just very busy solo and with his (main) band "The Posies". He is currently touring with them in Australia. sabine Viel oder wenig? Schnell oder langsam? Unbegrenzt surfen + telefonieren ohne Zeit- und Volumenbegrenzung? DAS TOP ANGEBOT JETZT bei Arcor: g|nstig und schnell mit DSL - das All-Inclusive-Paket f|r clevere Doppel-Sparer, nur 44,85 inkl. 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