From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #29 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 2 2006 Volume 15 : Number 029 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? [Eb ] Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? [2fs ] Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? [Spotted Eagle Ray ] RE: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? [Spotted Eagle Ray ] for anyone who cares (and I'm not sure if I do) [Jill Brand ] Re: My name is "Eb", and my gonads are swollen [2fs ] Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? [Eb ] Re: for anyone who cares (and I'm not sure if I do) [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: give it to the soft boys [Spotted Eagle Ray ] bandtoband; you might like this ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: bandtoband; you might like this ["Brian Nupp" ] just a note that I am, in fact... [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:51:42 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >> And how many of those films have you seen Mr. Broome? And which 2005 >> films that you have seen would you replace them with? > > Nora: First rule in Fight Club is: don't talk about award shows > with Eb. (...or, at least, not if you're going to offer nothing but lazy, counterproductive cynicism about how such-and-such awards don't mean anything, so blah blah blah.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:29:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? On 2/1/06, Eb wrote: > Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > >> And how many of those films have you seen Mr. Broome? And which 2005 > >> films that you have seen would you replace them with? > > > > Nora: First rule in Fight Club is: don't talk about award shows > > with Eb. > > (...or, at least, not if you're going to offer nothing but lazy, > counterproductive cynicism about how such-and-such awards don't mean > anything, so blah blah blah.) Who did that? Or is this - "That's just about the most uninvolving set of nominations I can ever remember. It's as if we're seeing the second-string set of nominations, because the first string of films was accidentally destroyed in a warehouse fire. "Is "Brokeback Mountain" really the best the film industry had to offer, this year? Brrr." - -- supposed to be "productive" and noncynical? Whatev. I haven't paid attention to any awards shows forever, and I don't think my life is a shallow lie as a result. The best movie would be about space-monkey pirates anyway - and no one makes that movie. Sorry, Rob Schneider movies don't count. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:43:47 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? On 2/1/06, 2fs wrote: > > best movie would > be about space-monkey pirates anyway - and no one makes that movie. I think The Flaming Lips have been working on that, or something not dissimilar, for a few years now. It's a Christmas film... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:45:38 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? 2fs wrote: > Who did that? > > Or is this - > > "That's just about the most uninvolving set of nominations I can ever > remember. It's as if we're seeing the second-string set of > nominations, because the first string of films was accidentally > destroyed in a warehouse fire. > > "Is "Brokeback Mountain" really the best the film industry had to > offer, this year? Brrr." > > -- supposed to be "productive" and noncynical? But, see, someone like you will respond to the above with "Well, of COURSE the nominations are lame. They're ALWAYS lame, because award shows are worthless and not so indie and kewl like me." > Whatev. I haven't paid attention to any awards shows forever KEWL! And double points for the flip usage of "whatev"! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:51:34 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? On 2/1/06, 2fs wrote: >> >> best movie would >> be about space-monkey pirates anyway - and no one makes that movie.> Rex: >I think The Flaming Lips have been working on that, or something not >dissimilar, for a few years now. It's a Christmas film... Laika would be a good second choice, seeing how they were name after the famous Soviet space dog! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:58:17 -0800 From: "Hurricane Jesus" Subject: My name is "Eb", and my gonads are swollen the young fresh fellows played it at an in-store here in seattle a few weeks before the tour began. then they played it the first night of the tour, in baltimore. i can't recollect if they played it in philly or not; but in dc, the soft boys came on for their second encore, and robyn gestured the young fresh fellows up to the stage, from where they all played it together -- with scott singing it. if i recall, the first time that *robyn* sang it was in seattle (where it *was* the minus 5 playing with). what's the plural of "deer"? well, i dunno about sleater-kinney... but in concert, maynard occasionally introduces songs by saying, "this song, like all of them, is about ass sex." i've been thinking lately that TOOL may be too old to still rock like a magicus. we shall soon find out! well, i should hope that *that* would not be a problem! i'll be pleased as punch if *Kicking & Screaming* gets a DVD release on *Squid*'s coattails. god damn, but i love that movie! i might even go so far as to say that, other than *Reds*, it's the movie i'm most to see given a DVD release. tim robbins interviews bob altman in the criterion release of *Short Cuts*, and at one point asks him what his favourite recent movies are. altman claims to have been totally knocked out by *City Of God*. not too surprising. but my ears really pricked up when altman said that he couldn't even figure out how the film had been made. talk about amazing! (truth be told, though, i thought it was a tad bit overrated -- but only 'cause it was sooooooo highly spoken of in every circle.) funny you should ask! i was just singing this the other day, and thinking that somebody oughta request it at an upcoming show. but, is it a cover? i had thought that it was a joke/improv song. <* Outrageous. I read it as meaning "Who cares about Kim, Morris and that other guy, Andy or whoever, or Wangbo Davis? I am the Soft Boys, me, alone, I did it!> godders, we are certainly on the same wavelength this week! i've said before that i was pretty embarrassed for robyn that during the '01 tour kimberley could only be allowed to sing one of his songs during the young fresh fellows' set. and listening to the minus three shows, it struck me that: - -- scott was allowed to sing two of *his* songs. - -- while the band sounded pretty good (surprisingly, it even made "Creeped Out" and, more miraculously, "Television" sound tolerable -- it not downright *listenable*), if robyn wants to go out and tour with a band, he's already *got* one to tour with. bury the fuckin' hatchet with matthew and/or andy, already. i mean, what is this, fucking kindergarten? KEN "The Rabbit Train I ride, farther on" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:00:57 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Oh happy day JANUARY 31, 2006 Message from John Wetton "It is the intention of all 4 original members, Geoff Downes, Steve Howe, Carl Palmer, and John Wetton, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the creation of 'ASIA.' All four wish to convey their heartfelt thanks for the global support, love and enthusiasm that has made this possible". 31 January 2006 I didn't think yesterday could possibly turn any more eventful, between the State of the Union speech, a Supreme Court justice confirmation, the Oscar nominations, the Pazz & Jop poll, Coretta King's death AND the announcements of the Coachella and Bonnaroo festival lineups, but now...THIS!! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:02:28 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? On 2/1/06, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > Laika would be a good second choice, seeing how they were name after > the famous Soviet space dog! Laika is always a good choice for anything. I loves me some Margaret Fiedler! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:15:57 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? On 2/1/06, Eb wrote: > 2fs wrote: > But, see, someone like you will respond to the above with "Well, of > COURSE the nominations are lame. They're ALWAYS lame, because award > shows are worthless and not so indie and kewl like me." So: if I do think the shows are worthless, I shouldn't respond, because doing so is an attempt to force my overbearing indie-osity upon everyone else. If I think they're not worthless, but I disagree with your assessment of the nominees, I shouldn't respond (that would be "nonproductive"). Apparently I can only respond if I agree with you. (FWIW: I saw GN&GL, liked it. _Capote_ and _Constant Gardener_ are in my Netflix queue - haven't seen them. I'll probably see _Brokeback_ eventually. The rest, I'm pretty neutral on - although I still have trouble believing _Match Point_ is anything but another disappointing Woody movie. I have no particular opinion on what should have been nominated.) And thanks for the bizarre nomination of middle-aged me as "indie" and "kewl." I guess. This moment's kewl listening: 1980 Gary Numan. (Oops, wait: it's the Foo Fighters' cover of "Down in the Park" - damned low, workplace-appropriate volume levels.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:17:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: for anyone who cares (and I'm not sure if I do) Ray Davies and band will be at the Orpheum Theater in Boston on March 28th. I'm going, but (oh, God, if there are KPS people here, PLEASE don't snitch on me) my heart is only half in it. I'm not enamored of his new stuff particularly, but old passions die hard. Anyway, tickets just went on sale but seem to actually be selling, so I got a single seat in Row GG center (which is really only 4 rows back) rather than get 2 tix for me and a someone-to-be-named-later all the way on the side and a further back. I may be all kinds of insecure when going to see bands whose audience tends to be 15-20 years my junior, but with Ray, hell, I'll probably know half of the audience anyway. Jill, who is going to three concerts in three months!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:29:47 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: Oh happy day >JANUARY 31, 2006 > >Message from John Wetton > > "It is the intention of all 4 original members, Geoff Downes, Steve > >Howe, Carl Palmer, and John Wetton, to celebrate the 25th anniversary > >of the creation of 'ASIA.' > >All four wish to convey their heartfelt thanks for the global >support, love and enthusiasm that has made this possible". > >31 January 2006 > > > >I didn't think yesterday could possibly turn any more eventful, >between the State of the Union speech, a Supreme Court justice >confirmation, the Oscar nominations, the Pazz & Jop poll, Coretta >King's death AND the announcements of the Coachella and Bonnaroo >festival lineups, but now...THIS!! > >Eb Eb, I adore your sarcasm (sometimes). I actually would love to see Howe and Downes play together, but more with Trevor Horn, Alan White and Chris Squire. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:31:53 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my gonads are swollen On 2/1/06, Hurricane Jesus wrote: > -- while the band sounded pretty good (surprisingly, it even made "Creeped > Out" and, more miraculously, "Television" sound tolerable -- it not > downright *listenable*), if robyn wants to go out and tour with a band, > he's already *got* one to tour with. bury the fuckin' hatchet with matthew > and/or andy, already. i mean, what is this, fucking kindergarten? I don't know the facts, but...hatchet-burying is at least a two-person sport. For all we know (or, for all I know: someone else might be privy), it's not Robyn insisting on keeping the hatchet in the sun's full glare. ps: Bury Molly Hatchet! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:16:04 -0800 (PST) From: JBJ Subject: new email addy Hey Fegs - Its been 7 years with the same ole email address. My alma mater has finally figured out that I'm no longer a student there, so it got shut off a few days ago. This address (the one this email is from) is my new email address. Drop me a line, bitches! Rotsa ruv, John B. "Lobsterman" Jones ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:21:29 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Why does the Academy hate Herb Alpert? 2fs wrote: > If I think they're not worthless, but I disagree > with your assessment of the nominees, I shouldn't respond (that would > be "nonproductive"). Where did I ever say that, dopey? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: for anyone who cares (and I'm not sure if I do) On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Jill Brand wrote: > Ray Davies and band will be at the Orpheum Theater in Boston on March > 28th. I'm going, but (oh, God, if there are KPS people here, PLEASE don't > snitch on me) my heart is only half in it. Uh-oh Jill, you're in trouble...I'm going straight to Neil with this one :) > I'm not enamored of his new stuff particularly, but old passions die > hard. Anyway, tickets just went on sale but seem to actually be Yeah, neither am I. But I'd go to a show, just because it's not going to be another "Storyteller" acoustic show (I assume). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:03:16 GMT From: Jim Davies Subject: give it to the soft boys The creeping blight assails us all. Far from applause, this knocking sound, the list. The ship of members is sinking. Men second. And Godders overboard > What do y'all make of the seemingly routine inclusion of this song in the > recent setlists? * Outrageous. I read it as meaning "Who cares about Kim, Morris and that other guy, Andy or whoever, or Wangbo Davis? I am the Soft Boys, me, alone, I did it! And 8 Miles High says you're the Byrds. And if all you're saying is that we'd like to see more of Morris and Kimberly, then of course we should. But it's not like the end of a pub rock murder mystery series, where all of those who were there need to be assembled at the end of every episode to be set straight by a Belgian. It was Miss Scarlet. In the Ballroom. And she was using... she was using... she was using... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:52:36 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: give it to the soft boys On 2/1/06, Jim Davies wrote: > > > It was Miss Scarlet. In the Ballroom. And she was using... she was > using... she was using... > ...A SPANNER! - -Ralph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:12:42 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap *STOP* http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060201/sc_space/ eraendswesternunionstopssendingtelegrams ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:47:16 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: bandtoband; you might like this According to : The path between Robyn Hitchcock and Minor Threat contains 9 steps: Robyn Hitchcock And The Egyptians Element Of Light 1986 featured: Robyn Hitchcock 1. Andy Metcalfe Squeeze Babylon And On 1987 2. Gilson Lavis Squeeze Eastside Story 1981 3. Paul Carrack Roxy Music Manifesto 1979 4. Paul Thompson Concrete Blonde Mexican Moon 1993 5. Johnette Napolitano Dream 6 s/t 1983 6. Michael Murphy Bug Lamp Roadside Prophets 1993 7. Keith Morris Circle Jerks VI 1987 8. Greg Hetson Bad Religion No Substance 1998 9. Brian Baker Minor Threat First Demo Tape 2003 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:23:08 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: give it to the soft boys What was she using? It was the LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LEAD PIPING! In re. Robyn: don't get me wrong, as far as I'm concerned I still owe well over 100 quid for just I Often Dream Of Trains, and he has a right to do whatever the hell he likes and I for one will still be a fan, but I have to say I wasn't very blown away by Robyn-3 on the radio... Perhaps I should have made more of an effort to see it live... Cheers Hercule >From: Jim Davies >Reply-To: Jim Davies >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: give it to the soft boys >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:03:16 GMT > >The creeping blight assails us all. Far from applause, this knocking >sound, the list. The ship of members is sinking. Men second. > >And Godders overboard > > > What do y'all make of the seemingly routine inclusion of this song in >the > > recent setlists? > > * Outrageous. I read it as meaning "Who cares about Kim, Morris and > that other guy, Andy or whoever, or Wangbo Davis? I am the Soft Boys, > me, alone, I did it! > >And 8 Miles High says you're the Byrds. > >And if all you're saying is that we'd like to see more of Morris and >Kimberly, then of course we should. > >But it's not like the end of a pub rock murder mystery series, where >all of those who were there need to be assembled at the end of every >episode to be set straight by a Belgian. > >It was Miss Scarlet. In the Ballroom. And she was using... she was >using... she was using... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:18:49 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: bandtoband; you might like this From: scruss@sympatico.ca >According to : That's a very cool site. >The path between Robyn Hitchcock and Minor Threat contains 9 steps: Hey, I was just over at Jeff Nelson's (drummer for Minor Threat) house Tuesday to watch our monkey president on the boob tube. He has parties for such events and at this one he had bowls of rubber bands on the coffee tables, in front of the TVs so we all could shoot at W when we disapproved of something he said, so there were a lot of rubber bands flying. Every so often Jeff would go in to recover the rubber bands from the floor. Hmm... this band to band site wouldn't know it but I'm in the studio with Jeff's new band, Fast Piece Of Furniture, right now (live stuff I recorded can be found here: http://www.myspace.com/fastpieceoffurniture ). Matthew Seligman played on 2 Lazerlove5 (my band) songs, so that makes the path between Robyn and Minor Threat much shorter. Also I remember talking to Jeff about the Damned and Minor Threat touring together at some point. I wonder if there is anything between Captain Sensible and Minor Threat. ? Maybe not...? But if so, again a shorter path. - -Nuppy (who just listened to Captain Sensible's The Power Of Love this morning) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:19:19 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: bandtoband; you might like this From: scruss@sympatico.ca >According to : That's a very cool site. >The path between Robyn Hitchcock and Minor Threat contains 9 steps: Hey, I was just over at Jeff Nelson's (drummer for Minor Threat) house Tuesday to watch our monkey president on the boob tube. He has parties for such events and at this one he had bowls of rubber bands on the coffee tables, in front of the TVs so we all could shoot at W when we disapproved of something he said, so there were a lot of rubber bands flying. Every so often Jeff would go in to recover the rubber bands from the floor. Hmm... this band to band site wouldn't know it but I'm in the studio with Jeff's new band, Fast Piece Of Furniture, right now (live stuff I recorded can be found here: http://www.myspace.com/fastpieceoffurniture ). Matthew Seligman played on 2 Lazerlove5 (my band) songs, so that makes the path between Robyn and Minor Threat much shorter. Also I remember talking to Jeff about the Damned and Minor Threat touring together at some point. I wonder if there is anything between Captain Sensible and Minor Threat. ? Maybe not...? But if so, again a shorter path. - -Nuppy (who just listened to Captain Sensible's The Power Of Love this morning) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: JBJ Subject: Radcliffe Session?? Hey Fegs -- No one wrote me yesterday. How come Tom, Gnat, and Eddie get to use derogatory terms of affection but not me? Anyhow, I was out of town when the Robyn Hitchcock Minus 3 Radcliffe Session torrent happened. I'm a big fan of Mark Radcliffe's show -- used to collect all the sessions I could get my hands on -- and I'm interested in getting ahold of this. The torrent seems to be inactive; I left my client on for over an hour yesterday and got nary a 1 or a 0 out of it. Any help? Thanks, JBJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:06:59 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: just a note that I am, in fact... ...listening to the Higsons, at right this very moment. Courtesy www.littlehits.com - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #29 *******************************