From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #19 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, January 22 2006 Volume 15 : Number 019 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Reggae [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: Feggae [Spotted Eagle Ray ] speaking of reggie [John Barrington Jones ] RE: Reggae [Dr John Halewood ] Re: This is reggae music [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: Reggae ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Reggae [Benjamin Lukoff ] My name is "Eb", and I drank some scuzz-water ["Hurricane Jesus" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #17 [James Dignan ] new Reggaeton link [Eb ] Re: new Reggaeton link [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: speaking of reggie [2fs ] Re: My name is "Eb", and I drank some scuzz-water [2fs ] Re: new Reggaeton link [Spotted Eagle Ray ] RE: speaking of reggie ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: speaking of reggie [2fs ] Re: Reggae [Tulloch ] Re: new Reggaeton link [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Reggae [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Read & Burn [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:58:59 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Reggae On 1/20/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > Rex, I can only feel pity for you, that you've allows frat boys to ruin > reggae by too many spins of "Legend." Wouldn't say they've "ruined" it for me. But "Legend" sure is burned out (pun sadly intended). It's more like that record just wedges its way into my life at just frequent enough intervals for me to feel like, "Well, that's my reggae quotient for a few more months, and it sounded the same as it did last time, and now I gotta wash my sweater." Situational, basically. If I still lived in rural America I'd probably be less inclined to listen to as much country as I do, and more inclined to follow hipster indie-rock trends than I am. My personal listening diet tends to emphasize that which I encounter less frequently in social situations or over the airwaves, I guess. So reggae (actually, dub is the most interesting variation to me) is out there for maybe-someday-immersion alongside jazz, Springsteen records, etc. etc. and I just figure I'll know when my time has come. Still working on a belated bath in British folk-rock right now (latest acquisition: Unhalfbricking). Jah love, Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:19:09 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Feggae On 1/20/06, 2fs wrote: > > > the problem I have with reggae (and in my collection that > mostly means that 4-disc Marley box set) is that it gets monotonous > after a while: the chord set is nearly as limited as the blues, and > while there's a similar sort of microvariety of rhythm and playing as > with the blues, as with the blues after a while i need someone to play > an unexpected chord. Doesn't happen within the genre much, so I look > for something else. I guess there's also no harm in admitting to something akin to white guilt and/or hypocrisy on my part here. The amount of reggae-influenced music I listen to, from early punk and ska to more recent dubby electronic shit, without knowing the roots very well pretty much destroys my credibility in dissing anyone who only likes country in its "alt-" flavoring, bemusement at people who like jangly '80's guitar pop but can't stand the Byrds or the Kinks, Franz Ferdinand and Strokes fans who don't know Gang of Four or Television, or my ever having said anything bad about Led Zeppelin (the last of which at least I'm far less inclined to do these days). - -Spotted Eagle "Kill Whitey Or At Least Make Him Feel Kinda Bad" Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:24:31 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: speaking of reggie how do y'all feel about Matisyahu?? I finally saw/heard him on Letterman the other night. I still don't know what I think. My mama always taught me that "white boys can't toast". I wonder what Jamaicans think of him? Will he have to lay low ala Salman Rushdie? =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:22:45 -0000 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: RE: Reggae The Great Quail dropped another egg and spoke: > If I may be so bold to suggest ten essential reggae albums to explore, Nice selection, but how can you ignore Black Uhuru (particularly "In Dub") and Lee Scratch Perry? Perry in particular has produced many albums of spectacularly insane, but also inspired, reggae over the last 35-odd years (been particularly getting into "Time Boom x De Devil Dead" and "From The Secret Laboratory" recently). Cheers John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:04:27 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: This is reggae music - -- hssmrg@bath.ac.uk is rumored to have mumbled on 19. Januar 2006 23:48:52 +0000 regarding Re: This is reggae music: >> It's the first I hear of it. > > * Moi aussi. We usually say 'heard' in the UK, Sebastian, but maybe the > Yanks are different? :-) Obviously they are. Different, that is. But regarding the tense: Maybe, maybe not. It may just have been a Germanicism(?) ... then again, I just googled the phrase and had 227 hits. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:09:08 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: speaking of reggie On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:24 PM, John Barrington Jones wrote: > how do y'all feel about Matisyahu?? The twentysomething metalheads at work like him, but one listen to Live at Stubb's is all I'll ever need. - - Steve __________ What the Republicans need is 50 Jack Abramoffs. Then this becomes a different town. - Grover Norquist (National Journal, July 29,1995). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:39:17 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Reggae The Great Quail dropped another egg and spoke: >> If I may be so bold to suggest ten essential reggae albums to explore, John: >Nice selection, but how can you ignore Black Uhuru (particularly "In Dub") >and Lee Scratch Perry? Perry in particular has produced many albums of >spectacularly insane, but also inspired, reggae over the last 35-odd years >(been particularly getting into "Time Boom x De Devil Dead" and "From The >Secret Laboratory" recently). One Black Uhuru is a must, although "Red" is my favorite. "Wa-Do-Dem" by Eek-A-Mouse I mentioned earlier this week as one of my 2 top favorites, so TGQ and I agree on that one. I did see Peter Tosh live in the early 80's. He walked on stage with a cane smoking one huge joint. Great concert. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:55:36 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Reggae On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, 2fs wrote: > On 1/20/06, The Great Quail wrote: > > Rex, I can only feel pity for you, that you've allows frat boys to ruin > > reggae by too many spins of "Legend." The same pity I feel for my Jewish > > brethren who won't listen to Wagner, or my hipster friends who think Robyn > > Hitchcock is only for quirky art-school chicks. > > Wait a minute - what's the possible downside in getting to know lots > of quirky art-school chicks? Where do we begin? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:15:33 -0800 From: "Hurricane Jesus" Subject: My name is "Eb", and I drank some scuzz-water all right, i just had an idea for a sight-gag that i'm going to pass on to the creators of *Family Guy*. i'm pretty sure they'll use it! you know those arcane warning labels found on many products? well, a funny scene would be somebody shopping at the supermarket, and on a package of Presto Logs, they see a warning that says, "Not to be used as a butt plug." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:36:01 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Reggae > Nice selection, but how can you ignore Black Uhuru (particularly "In Dub") > and Lee Scratch Perry? Well, I like Black Uhuru well enough, but I don't find any of their albums worthy of a top ten, really. "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is pretty good. Well, I mean, I think that most of their albums are pretty good, just not *great.* Just a preference. But I did mention Lee Scratch Perry! Under Max Romeo. He was a brilliant producer, and ARKology is a fantastic collection... - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:56:28 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V15 #17 > > Reggaeton: WTF? > > > > (Do any of you non-US fegs know what I'm talking about?) > >It's the first I hear of it. um...let me guess - a reggae boyband? Never heard of them, anyway. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:23:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: new Reggaeton link http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid1595.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:00:00 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: new Reggaeton link On 1/20/06, Eb wrote: > > http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid1595.aspx Good article... a little collegiate in places but as such answers a lot of my questions. I kinda wonder, though, what it is that the artists "do" per se... is the artist to whom the track is credited generally the male vocalist you hear, or what? Man, I guess we're gonna hear a lot of this. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:13:46 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: speaking of reggie On 1/20/06, John Barrington Jones wrote: > how do y'all feel about Matisyahu?? I wanna know why a guy from Brooklyn or whatever has a Jamaican accent. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:15:11 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I drank some scuzz-water On 1/20/06, Hurricane Jesus wrote: > you know those arcane warning labels found on many products? well, a funny > scene would be somebody shopping at the supermarket, and on a package of > Presto Logs, they see a warning that says, "Not to be used as a butt plug." Uh, okay. In fact, very few items one might find at the supermarket should be used as butt plugs. I'm guessing. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:23:45 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: new Reggaeton link On Jan 20, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Eb wrote: > http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid1595.aspx A tad more, from PRI's The World. - - Steve __________ What the Republicans need is 50 Jack Abramoffs. Then this becomes a different town. - Grover Norquist (National Journal, July 29,1995). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:38:33 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: new Reggaeton link On 1/20/06, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > > A tad more, from PRI's The World. > > > > http://www.theworld.org/cgi-bin/sessearch.cgi?q=reggaeton&sort=4 I heard that Reggaeton Ninos spot. It was weird and kind of creepy, but not much more so than those other records of kids singing the rock and pop hits of the day (usually in packs singing in unison... very strange stuff no matter what the genre). - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:51:18 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: speaking of reggie Jeff wrote: > On 1/20/06, John Barrington Jones wrote: > > how do y'all feel about Matisyahu?? > > I wanna know why a guy from Brooklyn or whatever has a Jamaican accent. Probably because his first language was likely Yiddish rather than English. And for the record, while he's not my favorite singer ever, I admire what he's doing. Because he's not Jamaican or a follower of Jah he makes clear the connection between spirituality and reggae that many listeners of reggae just don't get. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:27:49 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: speaking of reggie On 1/20/06, Marc Alberts wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > On 1/20/06, John Barrington Jones wrote: > > > how do y'all feel about Matisyahu?? > > > > I wanna know why a guy from Brooklyn or whatever has a Jamaican accent. > > Probably because his first language was likely Yiddish rather than English. They speak Yiddish in Jamaica? Oy mon! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:44:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Tulloch Subject: Re: Reggae A great choice. I'd like to reccomend anything by that other great British reggae band, Misty In Roots, but particularly Musi-O-Tunya and Live At The Counter Eurovision, the latter being a great flavourite of John Peel. The Great Quail wrote: 8. Steel Pulse, Handsworth Revolution. British reggae, influenced by the Wailers, Steel Pulse's debut LP. Accessible and universal, before Steel Pulse drifted more into a blander, world-music mode. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:54:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: new Reggaeton link - -- Spotted Eagle Ray is rumored to have mumbled on 20. Januar 2006 16:00:00 -0800 regarding Re: new Reggaeton link: > On 1/20/06, Eb wrote: >> >> http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid1595.aspx > > Good article... a little collegiate in places You say that as though it's a bad thing ... ;-) The article itself is interesting, but I was more fascinated by something you find if you follow the "footnotes". It's an installation about the "Amen Break", a sample phenomenon I was unaware of until now: Follow the link to "Can I Get An Amen?". The second half is less interesting to me, but the examples in the first half are staggering. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:24:37 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Reggae I was in a Starbuck's this morning. They was playin' reggae! - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:11:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Read & Burn Are the versions of the songs that eventually made _Send_ any different on the two "Read & Burn" eps? Are they (the eps) worth getting? "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #19 *******************************