From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V15 #6 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 6 2006 Volume 15 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Reap ["Hurricane Jesus" ] Re: Reap [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: guilty pleasures ["Matt Sewell" ] Fripp [FSThomas ] RH in The Word ( on Bob Dylan ) + it's Syd Barrett's birthday ! [HwyCDRre] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: reap [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] reap ["Michael Wells" ] Reap #2 [Mike Swedene ] Re: Guilty Pleasures ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] Re: Guilty Pleasures [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: guilty pleasures [helmut poe ] reap [Eb ] Re: reap [Spotted Eagle Ray ] So that was it, huh? [Eb ] Re: Guilty Horns ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Guilty Horns [Tom Clark ] ?paer [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: So that was it, huh? [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Violent Femmes & Duran Duran [Jeff Dwarf ] Y Dduraniad [James Dignan ] Re: Y Dduraniad [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Y Dduraniad [Tom Clark ] better bring a pillow ["michael wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:52:30 -0800 From: "Hurricane Jesus" Subject: Reap eb's sense of humour... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:02:37 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Reap On 1/5/06, Hurricane Jesus wrote: > > eb's sense of humour... I must be the least likely person to pose this question, but did I miss something? Off-list, perhaps? The kid seems to be operating at habitual levels to me. - -Spazzy McSpazzenstein ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:42:03 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: guilty pleasures Hmm... though I concur with most of that list being eminently unloadable, I think that King Missile (Dog Fly Religion)'s They is one of my favourite albums of all time... and that Real Men (JSH and Kramer) one of the funniest. Also Daniel Johnston is worth keeping even if it's only for Speeding Motorcycle... And I did have an enormous soft spot for The Pooh Sticks c.1989... Cheers Matt Current guilty pleasure: Genesis - Nursery Cryme... there, I've said it...! >From: Eb >In recent weeks, I've been dealing with guilty pleasures a LOT because >I've been skimming through my most marginal albums to find some stuff to >unload. I've pruned about 25 albums so far, but a lot more bands/albums >passed the taste test than I hoped. > >Some dubious acts whom I couldn't bear to eliminate have included: Archers >of Loaf/Barry Black, the Association, Baby Flamehead, Bis, Blackgirls, the >Cavedogs/Brian Stevens, Chickasaw Mudd Puppies, the Cleaners from Venus, >Dont Mean Maybe, Eugenius, the Explorers, Flour, Margo Guryan, the Hoodoo >Gurus, Matthew Jay, Daniel Johnston, King Missile/John S. Hall & Kramer, >the Lewis & Clarke Expedition, Little Red Rocket, the Marshmallow Coast, >Milla, Mono, the Nevada Bachelors, Oliver, Pianosaurus, the Pooh Sticks, >Red Box, Red Five, Ruby, Shelleyan Orphan, Sing-Sing, the Soup Dragons, >Stump, Swallow, Tubetop, Violet Indiana and the Webb Brothers. Bleh! > >Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:13:30 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Fripp According to an article on Slashdot, Robert Fripp will be handling the soundtrack work for the next version of Windows, Vista. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/06/0721209&from=rss You can read up on the terror that is Vista by going here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.aspx - -ferris. - -- FS Thomas | Interactive Developer | fsthomas@ochremedia.com 404.758.8616 (home/office) | 404.274.1632 (mobile) | ferraatu (AIM) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:11:12 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: RH in The Word ( on Bob Dylan ) + it's Syd Barrett's birthday ! i saw that Robyn contributed to the UK mag - The Word - . .commenting on cover boy Bob Dylan . . . a friend is sending me his copy - so i've haven't read it yet ! plus . . roger keith barrett turns 60 today . . . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:40:49 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Yao Wenyuan, last of the Gang of Four. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 07:39:34 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: reap On 1/6/06, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Yao Wenyuan, last of the Gang of Four It's been almost an hour... is fegmania going to be the last music-nerd mailing list to feature a post saying something like "and yet you can still hear his influence in bands like Franz Ferdinand today"? - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:57:16 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reap Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > It's been almost an hour... is fegmania going to be the last music-nerd > mailing list to feature a post saying something like "and yet you can still > hear his influence in bands like Franz Ferdinand today"? No, we were waiting for your meta-comment. So, Gang of Four really sucked then, eh? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:09:53 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: reap Lou Rawls, 72 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:10:30 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Reap #2 Lou Rawls, the velvet-voiced singer who started as a church choir boy and went on to record such classic tunes as "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine," died Friday of cancer. He was 72. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20060106-0832-obit-rawls.html - ------------------------------------------------- "there is water at the bottom of the ocean" - talking heads _________________________________________________________ __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL  Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:07:01 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Rex: >Weird memory jog: At the outset of the "lounge revival" (say, 1993?) >my >friend and office-mate Mark scored a series of three >semi-professionally >produced continuous mix tapes of "uneasy listening music"... shit, I >forget >what the series title it was, but someone had really put together a >great >big collection of weird lounge, early moog (Perrey & Kingsley etc.), >bizarro >exotica, fucked-up mellow surf music, some more recognizeable stuff >like >"Some Velvet Morning" and Lalo Schifrin film themes, early muzak >versions of >pop tunes played on coral sitars and god knows what else-- you could >probably cross-reference a lot of it with RE:SEARCH's "Incredibly >Bizarre >Music" books-- and strung them together as a continuous thing. It >was >mindboggling, and we listened to it over and over again (I still have >3rd >generation cassette dubs of them somewhere). For some reason the a >capella >version of "Windmills of My Mind" from those cassettes popped into my >head >just the other day. Anyways, the name Enoch Light Orchestra rings a >bell as >the perpetrator of some of the weirder things about which I could >never >unearth much info at the time... That sounds very much like the stuff I've been getting into lately. >Nuppy, you didn't compile these and then send them back through time >for us, >did you? 'fraid not. I'm just now having fun discovering this stuff! - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:19:46 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Michael Wells wrote: > Lou Rawls, 72 His work with Gang of Four was outstanding. He'll be missed. - -t "You'll Never Find A Man In Uniform" c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:30:28 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures > >Nuppy, you didn't compile these and then send them back through time > >for us, > >did you? > > 'fraid not. I'm just now having fun discovering this stuff! FWIW, I recovered the memory fragment that contained the name of the compilation series: SMYLONYLON. It wasn't a commercial issue, but I can scare up the tapes and type up the track list for you... might provide some new Holy Grails for you to seek, and at the same time, if you already have some of it and are inclined towards digitizing the vinyl, I'd love to have some of thes tracks in a form conducive to modern playback! - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:54:56 -0800 (PST) From: helmut poe Subject: Re: guilty pleasures Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger I always feel a bit guilty listening to these post-punk reincarnations... but this one is just so damn catchy. __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL  Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:16:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap http://www.rhinowestwood.com http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/calendar/cl-et- rhino06jan06,0,6135359.story Rockaway, next? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:29:22 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: reap On 1/6/06, Eb wrote: > > http://www.rhinowestwood.com > http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/calendar/cl-et- > rhino06jan06,0,6135359.story > > Rockaway, next? Dude. Did we reap Penny Lane Pasadena? It's technically just relocating, but once the Old Town address closes it's pretty much dead to me, and to any casual foot traffic. Old Town will be completely without a record store, I think... not that Old Town is all that cool, but it still seems wrong. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:14:50 -0800 From: Eb Subject: So that was it, huh? I finally -- perhaps this adverb should be an unspoken given, when talking about current films I see -- saw "Spirited Away," last night. The subtitled version. It was enjoyable, and visually imaginative to an unusual degree, but...that's it, huh? There was a point about halfway through -- around the time of the marvelous "Stink God" sequence, and some hints of a greater moral theme about greed -- where I thought this might turn into a great film. But then it eventually thinned into just another "save the fairy princess from the wicked witch"-type tale. Oh well. "B+" Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:20:25 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: Re: Guilty Horns >> Ah, to name a few... any recommendations? > >Charlie Christian: The Genius of The Electric Guitar (Compilation, >1939) >Bennie Goodman's guitar player. Laid the groundwork for generations > >of jazz guitarists. > >-tc Thanks Tom. I checked out some song clips on both of these amazing artists. They seem too 'big band' for what I'm looking for currently. Too many horns. Good stuff none the less. Do you mean Benny Goodman? Or Bennie Goodman? I couldn't find Bennie, but Benny is a horn player. I'm looking for more relaxing stripped down guitar/percussion stuff like the songs Maria Elena or Ternuna by Los Indios Tabajaras, which can be heard here: http://tinyurl.com/8usrm - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:31:40 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Guilty Horns On Jan 6, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Brian Nupp wrote: >>> Ah, to name a few... any recommendations? >> >> Charlie Christian: The Genius of The Electric Guitar (Compilation, >> 1939) >> Bennie Goodman's guitar player. Laid the groundwork for generations >> >> of jazz guitarists. >> >> -tc > > Thanks Tom. I checked out some song clips on both of these amazing > artists. They seem too 'big band' for what I'm looking for currently. > Too many horns. Good stuff none the less. Do you mean Benny Goodman? > Or Bennie Goodman? I couldn't find Bennie, but Benny is a horn player. What I meant was that Charlie Christian happened to be the guitarist in Benny Goodman's band. Sorry for the confusion. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: ?paer Futurama? "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "Now I am going to tell you how we are not going to fight communism. We are not going to transform our fine FBI into a Gestapo secret police. That is what some people would like to do. We are not going to try to control what our people read and say and think. We are not going to turn the United States into a right-wing totalitarian country in order to deal with a left-wing totalitarian threat." - Harry S Truman . __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL  Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:26:32 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: So that was it, huh? On 1/6/06, Eb wrote: > > > It was enjoyable, and visually imaginative to an unusual degree, > but...that's it, huh? I think there's something about the pacing or rhythm to these films that starts to make sense, or at least a little more sense, after you've absorbed four or five of them. Of course it's a YMMV situation... if you don't find the first one or two you see especially intriguing, there's not much incentive to immerse yourself in the idiom. But if you don't mind enjoying the design work, and check out a few more, the whole thing might click for ya. Or it might not... - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:01:09 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap Tom Clark wrote: > On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Michael Wells wrote: > > > Lou Rawls, 72 > > His work with Gang of Four was outstanding. He'll be > missed. I'd declare Tom today's winner for that, but we don't do that, thank Simon Le Bon. "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "Now I am going to tell you how we are not going to fight communism. We are not going to transform our fine FBI into a Gestapo secret police. That is what some people would like to do. We are not going to try to control what our people read and say and think. We are not going to turn the United States into a right-wing totalitarian country in order to deal with a left-wing totalitarian threat." - Harry S Truman . __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL  Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:11:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Violent Femmes & Duran Duran 2fs wrote: > I dunno - for me there's so little past the first two > albums, and so much good stuff on the first two, that I'd > say better off buying those first two and downloading - via > utterly and completely legal means, of course - any decent > tracks to be cherrypicked from later albums. By virtue of a particular ex, I've pretty much heard everything through the laughable cover record they did. I'd actually be more inclined to own Seven & the Ragged Tiger than the first one; _Rio_ is hands down their best album and it's not even close. Actually, maybe i'll just get it and the Greatest thing at some point (since a used copy of Greatest _IS_ probably cheaper than legally downloading the singles from the first one, ragged tiger, notorious, the bond theme and "Come Undone.") > Hmm: curiously, the above statement, while I meant it to > apply to Duran Duran, applies nearly as well to the Violent > Femmes... Right down to both bands last viable gasps happening around the same time ("Come Undone" and a couple of the songs on _New Times,_ respectively).... "A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer." -- Mitch Hedberg "Now I am going to tell you how we are not going to fight communism. We are not going to transform our fine FBI into a Gestapo secret police. That is what some people would like to do. We are not going to try to control what our people read and say and think. We are not going to turn the United States into a right-wing totalitarian country in order to deal with a left-wing totalitarian threat." - Harry S Truman . __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL  Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:03:56 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Y Dduraniad >I am trying to find out why the station is Caerdydd Canalog but the >library is Llyvfrgeg Ganalog  not to mention that St Marys becomes >Eglwys Fair "Cardiff" is masculine, "Library" is feminine. Welsh uses lenition, changing the first letters of adjectives according to gender and case. And IIRC Llanfair, lit. "the fair saint", is the usual way of saying St. Mary > > > first two Duran Duran albums were great. Seriously -- >> > especially the second. Listed to the entire >> > "Rio" album and tell me that hasn't aged very well! >> > Killer bass, maddening hooks, indecipherable lyrics... >> > And Simon's thin, white tie and powder blue shirt.... >> > > I'll actually go so far as to say that while I don't own >> any Duran Duran, the only song of there's I've ever >> actively avoided hearing was "Ordinary World" and I think >> about getting around to getting their greatest hits thingy > > whenever I find myself with more store credit than other >> stuff I've found that I want. Haven't gotten it yet, >> but.... I still have the 12" single of "Save a prayer", which made their existence worthwhile - the weird, morphing out of tune synth at the end in particular sticks in my mind. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:11:37 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Y Dduraniad On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, James Dignan wrote: > >I am trying to find out why the station is Caerdydd Canalog but the > >library is Llyvfrgeg Ganalog  not to mention that St Marys becomes > >Eglwys Fair > > "Cardiff" is masculine, "Library" is feminine. Welsh uses lenition, > changing the first letters of adjectives according to gender and case. > > And IIRC Llanfair, lit. "the fair saint", is the usual way of saying St. Mary I thought it was just the labial nasal 'm' shifting to the labial fricative 'f'. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:29:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Y Dduraniad On Jan 6, 2006, at 4:03 PM, James Dignan wrote: > I still have the 12" single of "Save a prayer", which made their > existence worthwhile - the weird, morphing out of tune synth at the > end in particular sticks in my mind. James and I agree on this one. Talk about a guilty pleasure, "Save a Prayer" is my favorite Duran Duran song, with "Girls on Film" a distant second. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:18:50 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: better bring a pillow Second Chord Sounds in 639-Year Long Concert The abandoned Buchardi church in Halberstadt, eastern Germany, is the venue for a mind-boggling 639-year long performance of a piece of music by US experimental composer John Cage (1912-1992). [more at http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1847303,00.html ] I was wondering what kind of madman woulduntil catching this sentence later on in the article: Cage was a pupil of one of the 20th century's most influential composers, Arnold Schvnberg (1874-1951). Ah, thats it then. Michael and you thought listening to The Fall was boring Wells ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V15 #6 ******************************