From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #278 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 30 2005 Volume 14 : Number 278 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Smells like mean spirit [2fs ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [Eb ] RE: Best of 2005 ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Best of 2005 [2fs ] Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [The Great Quail ] Smells like mean induction criteria ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [Christopher Gross ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [Eb ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Smells like mean induction criteria [Eb ] Now Here's A Bat Mitzvah! [Alfred Masciocchi ] Re: Smells like mean spirit ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Smells like mean induction criteria ["Michael Wells" ] RE: Smells like mean induction criteria ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Smells like mean spirit [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: Smells like mean induction criteria ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Rush! All Rush, all the time! [Spotted Eagle Ray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:54:23 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit On 11/29/05, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > (revised post-apocalyptic scenario now involves a giant mutant cockroach, > Keith Richards and Mark E. Smith... watching "Family Guy") And eating Twinkies. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:06:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit Spotted Fever Tick: >> "You obviously read my posts with some kind of heightened drama >> that's just >> not there...There's nothing especially spazzy or strident intended." > > Nah, your posts don't read as dramatic; just casually, needlessly > spiteful. I naysay your criticism of Herb Alpert's Hall of Fame induction, and you respond with "You're gay," "You aren't getting any sex" and "Me have more Feggy friends than yoo-ooo." Oh yes, I'm the one playing dirty pool here. Spazz. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:12:32 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Best of 2005 On 11/29/05, Bachman, Michael wrote: >> >> scooped up a copy and also bought >> The Sadies EP that Robyn sang on. Rex: >Was there an EP? Different from the full-length Sadies record (called, I >think, Favourite Colour) that ends with Robyn on "Why Would Anybody Live >Here"? That is the one. I tend to think of FC as an EP, as it is only 28-30 minutes long. I realize that 28-30 minutes was maybe typical of LP in the 60's and 70's, but not now. What is the cutting off point of an EP before it becomes an LP anyway? My error in calling Favourite Colour a EP if it was beyond the cutting off point. Michael B. NP Can - Soon Over Babaluma ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:22:22 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Best of 2005 On 11/30/05, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Rex: > >Was there an EP? Different from the full-length Sadies record (called, I > >think, Favourite Colour) that ends with Robyn on "Why Would Anybody Live > >Here"? > > That is the one. I tend to think of FC as an EP, as it is only 28-30 minutes > long. I realize that 28-30 minutes was maybe typical of LP in the 60's and > 70's, but not now. > > What is the cutting off point of an EP before it becomes an LP anyway? I think it's primarily a matter of marketing and/or preference. Certainly, I have several items marketed as EPs (some even include "EP" in the title) that are longer than full-length albums also in my collection. The other thing is that I think the usage of "EP" differs in the American and British contexts. This might account for the curiosity of an EP ("extended play") being shorter than an LP ("long-play"): it's extended in relation to a single, and if I remember there were some rules or other concerning charts in Britain that led to the invention of the EP. In American usage it's just a short album - and back in the vinyl days was usually a 12-inch release, not a 7-inch. I don't know what size British EPs in the '60s and '70s were (the Beatles _Magical Mystery Tour_ being one of the more famous ones). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:07:41 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine Rex on my post about Randy VanWarmer "Terraform": >>You and your $1 vinyl finds! I need to cultivate that skill to >bring my >>music jones in line with my budget. Well well, in the holiday spirit you can all share in my $1 find! I did a vinyl to cd transfer last night of this superb album. Anyone who wants a copy- I will mail them one! Just email me your address off list. I'd say anyone who enjoys the 1st 3 dB's albums or the 1st Hot Hot Heat album and EP will enjoy this a great deal. I'm absolutely amazed this doesn't exist on cd, but then it is a Bearsville release from 1980. And dare I say Randy VanWarmer was the American equal to Elvis Costello? Just a more nerdy equal. And speaking of nerds, I get the feeling more than less of us were the guys being picked on in school. I think we all have a lot more in common than we have differences. I'm certain there has been pain in all of our lives. This is a great list, and I enjoy the little jabs we throw at each other, but bullying each others feelings and name calling might be taking it a bit too far... - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:38:37 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine Nuppy: >And speaking of nerds, I get the feeling more than less of us were >the guys being picked on in school. I think we all have a lot more in >common than we have differences. I'm certain there has been pain in >all of our lives. This is a great list, and I enjoy the little jabs >we throw at each other, but bullying each others feelings and name >calling might be taking it a bit too far... I agree. We have lost too many folks off this list since the 9/11 ventings. I miss Kay and so many others too numerous to list. Michael B. NP Brad Mehldau - Largo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:37:05 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine > Nuppy: > This is a great list, and I enjoy the little jabs > >we throw at each other, but bullying each others feelings and name > >calling might be taking it a bit too far... My guess is that our principle resident bully has the farthest to go in getting over his own having-been-bullied-as-a-child-nerd. - -Rx, loving the nerd within ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:50:10 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of w It's great you're back Rex, but I must point out that this list would not be the same without Eb. Not partisan, just sayin... And I enjoy the jabs too... it's just... well... where're mine, eh? EH? Cheers Matt >From: Spotted Eagle Ray >Reply-To: Spotted Eagle Ray >CC: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long >red bottle of wine >Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:37:05 -0800 > > > Nuppy: > > This is a great list, and I enjoy the little jabs > > >we throw at each other, but bullying each others feelings and name > > >calling might be taking it a bit too far... > > >My guess is that our principle resident bully has the farthest to go in >getting over his own having-been-bullied-as-a-child-nerd. > >-Rx, loving the nerd within ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:51:07 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit > Eb: > I naysay your criticism of Herb Alpert's Hall of Fame induction, Wrong. I didn't criticize anything. I mentioned that it just looked a little funny to see a trumpet player explicitly labeled as a non-performer. You responded with some shitty condescension questioning my understanding of the categories. I can only think of two reasons for your to do that: (1) You genuinely think me incapable of grasping the intricate complexities of the freakin' Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (that is, I'm stupid, which we both know I'm not), or (2) You hadn't found an excuse to insult me lately, and you needed a fix bad enough to grasp onto that flimsy pretext (that is, you're an asshole, which we both know you are). > and > you respond with "You're gay," "You aren't getting any sex" and "Me > have more Feggy friends than yoo-ooo." I would rephrase that last one as "being as twisted and bitter as you are must be its own incredible lonely form of punishment". And you forgot "You're a robot" and "You derive sexual arousal from devising nasty putdowns to the point where you attempt to pleasure yourself, but even then you require sexual aids because your potency is less than that of an average male". And admittedly, of these five assertions, one may not, strictly speaking, be true. Oh yes, I'm the one playing dirty pool here. Pool is a game where someone wins and someone loses. Discussion forums aren't supposed to work that way. Perhaps this confusion explains some small part of your very large problem. > Spazz. Asshole. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:15:04 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit On 11/30/05, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > Eb: > > Spazz. > > > Asshole. "Hey, you got spazz on my asshole!" "Hey, you got asshole on my spazz!" Introducing...Spazzhole. Two great tastes that taste great together! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:27:34 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit On 11/30/05, 2fs wrote: > > > Introducing...Spazzhole. Two great tastes that taste great together! I just checked the AMG and was mildly surprised that there's never been a band with that name... I was thinking Seattle, 1992 or so. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:36:30 -0800 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit Rex, please stop embarassing yourself. You are ruining your reputation as a nice guy. What's with all the "you're gay" shit? It reaks of homophobia or at least 3rd grade playground putdowns. I think Eb would have responded to your Alpert comment just the same whoever wrote them and I almost responded in a similar way. All of his comments in this instance were in reaction to what you said not who you are.You way over reacted here. If Eb's comments piss you off just filter them out. Trust me gmail makes that really easy to do. I've done this on other lists and stupid shit that used to bug me never reaches my inbox. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:26:25 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit This is awesome! And there I was, getting so bored with talk of music, Robyn, and Eddie's wacky stories. This is what the Feg list is all about -- watching other people implode! - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Somewhere inside a glowing kernel of peace is an irritant -- an inflamed seed that messes up the organism. We are best seen as conductors, through which solids, air, and liquids flow constantly, matched by a whorl of loosely related thoughts. If I am a prophet of chaos, then this is truly my age; but perhaps I am a prophet of order, recoiling in disgust from the uncontrollable force of life. All of us exist in a swarming, pulsating world, driven mostly by an unconscious that we ignore and misunderstand. Within the framework of 'civilization' we remain as savage as possible. My contention is, however -- and it's a bloody obvious one -- that beneath our civilized glazing, we are all deviants, all alone, and all peculiar. So loosen your spine, bury your television, and welcome to a globe of frogs.... --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:51:24 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Smells like mean induction criteria Of course, this all obscures the fact that the Rolling Stone's little "Hall" stiffed the proggers again. As long as Yawn is around, people like The Stooges and Sex Pistols will get nominated, leaving Yes, Rush and Genesis to ponder what might have been. Like hanging out next to Neil Young's fringe jacket. Maybe Eddie can write up a little love letter called "Wennerlust" for those of us unhappy with the results. Michael "and where's Van Halen, anyway?" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:00:38 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Smells like mean induction criteria Mr Well: >Of course, this all obscures the fact that the Rolling Stone's little >"Hall" stiffed the proggers again. As long as Yawn is around, people >like The Stooges and Sex Pistols will get nominated, leaving Yes, Rush >and Genesis to ponder what might have been. Like hanging out next to >Neil Young's fringe jacket. Close To The Edge alone should justify Yes getting in. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:31:11 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit Spotted Eagle Ray, still ranting: >> I naysay your criticism of Herb Alpert's Hall of Fame induction, > > Wrong. I didn't criticize anything. I mentioned that it just > looked a > little funny to see a trumpet player explicitly labeled as a non- > performer. > You responded with some shitty condescension questioning my > understanding of > the categories. > > I can only think of two reasons for your to do that: (1) You > genuinely think > me incapable of grasping the intricate complexities of the freakin' > Rock and > Roll Hall of Fame (that is, I'm stupid, which we both know I'm > not), or (2) > You hadn't found an excuse to insult me lately, and you needed a fix > bad enough to grasp onto that flimsy pretext (that is, you're an > asshole, > which we both know you are). > > I would rephrase that last one as "being as twisted and bitter as > you are > must be its own incredible lonely form of punishment". And you forgot > "You're a robot" and "You derive sexual arousal from devising nasty > putdowns > to the point where you attempt to pleasure yourself, but even then > you require sexual aids because your potency is less than that of > an average > male". And admittedly, of these five assertions, one may not, > strictly > speaking, be true. > > Asshole. Will someone give this kid an Oscar, already? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:59:50 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Eb wrote: > > Asshole. > > Will someone give this kid an Oscar, already? Seriously, why do you keep posting needling replies that are calculated to generate still more angry replies? Believe me (I've learned the hard way!), it's usually best to forget about getting the last word in and just let the whole thing drop. Unless, of course, you're deliberately provoking him, but you wouldn't do that, would you? - --Chequered Moose Ray ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:07:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit Jason Brown wrote: > I think Eb would have responded to your Alpert comment just the same > whoever wrote them Exactly. Incidentally, I'm really overdue for an "Ebmaniax" writeup here...I saw TWO shows in the same night, last Wednesday. Oops. Also splurged on about a dozen secondhand CDs last night. Some less- mainstream titles which someone might want to just-my-two-cents about: Bettie Serveert/Attagirl, the Jayhawks/Rainy Day Music, the Kingsbury Manx/Aztec Discipline, MC Honky/I Am the Messiah, Paul Westerberg/Folker, Ed Harcourt/Strangers, Shockabilly/Vietnam + Heaven (two-fer), Enon/Lost Marbles & Exploded Evidence and the Delays/Faded Seaside Glamour. Probably most looking forward to hearing the Harcourt CD, out of all of these. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:11:48 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit At 12:59 PM 11/30/2005, Christopher Gross wrote: >Seriously, why do you keep posting needling replies that are calculated to >generate still more angry replies? Sometimes I think it's not each other that the Broomes hate -- it's us. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:21:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smells like mean induction criteria Michael Wells wrote: > Of course, this all obscures the fact that the Rolling Stone's little > "Hall" stiffed the proggers again. As long as Yawn is around, people > like The Stooges and Sex Pistols will get nominated, leaving Yes, Rush > and Genesis to ponder what might have been. Well, true, prog has been screwed so far. But on the other hand, the Hall is still relatively young -- what, only about 150 "Performers" inducted? So, can we really assert for sure that Yes/Genesis/Tull/ Rush/Moody Blues (the proggy frontrunners, in my view...Crimson isn't popular enough and ELP has fallen from grace) are among the all-time most important 150 acts? > Michael "and where's Van Halen, anyway?" Wells Because Van Halen *does* seem like such a neglected shoo-in (maybe the most snubbed act of their generation?), I have a theory that the Hall isn't going to induct VH until they can be *absolutely sure* that Roth will reunite/jam with the other band members at the induction dinner. Never underestimate how much emphasis this game puts on the dinner. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:09:21 -0500 From: Alfred Masciocchi Subject: Now Here's A Bat Mitzvah! http://tabloidbaby.blogspot.com/2005/11/exclusive-photos-mitzvahpalooza.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:20:42 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit Eb wrote: > > Also splurged on about a dozen secondhand CDs last night. Some less- > mainstream titles which someone might want to just-my-two-cents about: > ... > MC Honky/I Am the Messiah I adore this CD. It's E being very silly. Apparently the MC Honky live show is fun; E dresses up in a fat suit and cardigan. "Keep Looking At The Object" Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:24:19 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Smells like mean induction criteria Ebwingo: > Well, true, prog has been screwed so far. But on the other hand, the > Hall is still relatively young -- what, only about 150 "Performers" > inducted? So, can we really assert for sure that Yes/Genesis/Tull/ > Rush/Moody Blues (the proggy frontrunners, in my view...Crimson isn't > popular enough and ELP has fallen from grace) are among the all-time > most important 150 acts? I was curious what the actual number was, and you're right on; 144 artists, 27 each non-performers, 27 early influences (a way more interesting list than the actual inductees), 11 sidemen and 4 lifetime achievement awards. Good to see that Yawn gave himself a lifetime award. What is the latest cover - 52 things you don't know about Keith Urban? What is this, Cosmo? I think it's less an argument of 'is Genesis, et al one of the "Best 150,"' (which I think they may well be), but more that they are clearly better than artists/groups that *have been inducted* already. Would The Coasters, The Platters, The Flamingoes, The Moonglows, Brenda Lee, or Gene Pitney make anyone else's "Top 150" all time? If they did make my list, it would certainly be after Yes, Rush and the others. Selling hundreds of millions of albums worldwide has got to speak for a genre, if nothing else does. There's also the nomination problem - the "nomination committee" (RS editors, IIRC) decides who can be voted upon, then sends the list out. Rush got nominated in 1999, their first year of eligibility...and hasn't been nominated since. So there's no chance, even if the voters were inclined that way. Wenner just hates some things, and groups who wouldn't kiss his ass are one of them. > Never underestimate how much emphasis this game > puts on the dinner. That's a pretty astute observation, actually. Plus either this year or last was their first year of eligibility, so I think there's time to get them in a 'catch-all' class like Dolph observed. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:24:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit Stewart C. Russell wrote: >> Also splurged on about a dozen secondhand CDs last night. Some >> less- mainstream titles which someone might want to just-my-two- >> cents about: ... >> MC Honky/I Am the Messiah > > I adore this CD. It's E being very silly. Apparently the MC Honky > live show is fun; E dresses up in a fat suit and cardigan. I felt lame because I didn't hear about this disc until quite awhile after it was released. I think E's "incognito, flying under the radar" gambit was very successful. A good disc to play alongside the Go! Team. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:38:55 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Smells like mean induction criteria >Would The Coasters, The Platters, The Flamingoes, The Moonglows, Brenda >Lee, or Gene Pitney make anyone else's "Top 150" all time? If they did >make my list, it would certainly be after Yes, Rush and the others. >Selling hundreds of millions of albums worldwide has got to speak for a >genre, if nothing else does. Did the Marcels make it in yet? They did Blue Moon around 1962 or so. They will probably get it before any Prog band, as they were also known for being one of the first integrated bands. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:41:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smells like mean induction criteria Michael Wells wrote: > I think it's less an argument of 'is Genesis, et al one of the "Best > 150,"' (which I think they may well be), but more that they are > clearly > better than artists/groups that *have been inducted* already. > Would The Coasters, The Platters, The Flamingoes, The Moonglows, > Brenda > Lee, or Gene Pitney make anyone else's "Top 150" all time? If they did > make my list, it would certainly be after Yes, Rush and the others. > Selling hundreds of millions of albums worldwide has got to speak > for a > genre, if nothing else does. It's not so much a question of being "better," but of that "seminal" thing. However, I can't get too specific about those names, because '50s doo- wop, etc. is definitely not my area of expertise. In those instances, I tend to figure "Well, they probably know what they're talking about...." I've seen some other online folks gripe about Pitney's inclusion, though. >> Never underestimate how much emphasis this game >> puts on the dinner. > > That's a pretty astute observation, actually. Plus either this year or > last was their first year of eligibility, so I think there's time > to get > them in a 'catch-all' class like Dolph observed. VH's debut was in 1978, so I think this should have been their third year of eligibility. Meanwhile, I'd just like to say it's cool that Franz Ferdinand's official site has appreciative links to the Neutral Milk Hotel and Fiery Furnaces sites. Way to help out the little guys. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:43:28 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Smells like mean spirit > Eb: > > I felt lame because I didn't hear about this disc until quite awhile > after it was released. I think E's "incognito, flying under the > radar" gambit was very successful. ISTR that it took the form of a phony "feud" where MC Honky kept "dissing" E on his website... something like that. I know Miles was a devotee of that album. I have it but haven't listened to it much, and probably should go back to it. A good disc to play alongside the Go! Team. And how's that one? Everything I've heard sounds great, but I have a feeling it might not have much staying power (not that there's anything wrong with that). - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:50:23 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Now Here's A Bat Mitzvah! On 11/30/05, Alfred Masciocchi wrote: > http://tabloidbaby.blogspot.com/2005/11/exclusive-photos-mitzvahpalooza.html Damn - I was really hoping you were making a terrible, terrible pun, and Ozzy Osbourne was somehow involved. Instead, it's just some annoying string-pulling war profiteer...and a bunch of appallingly anti-Semitic commentors. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:09:10 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: Re: Smells like mean induction criteria >Meanwhile, I'd just like to say it's cool that Franz Ferdinand's >official site has appreciative links to the Neutral Milk Hotel and >Fiery Furnaces sites. Way to help out the little guys. > >Eb And to the Monochrome Set site too. Bid produced Alex's 1st album... - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:23:09 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Rush! All Rush, all the time! According to my Rush 2005 calendar, tomorrow is a red letter day: on December 1, 2112 was certified double-platinum, Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, and Fly by Night -- platinum; and Caress of Steel -- gold! Rush recently celebrated their 30 year anniversary. Will they ever get in the hall of fame? Of course not! Despite their influence on bands ranging from Primus to Pavement; despite the the near-worship some players feel for Alex, Neil, and Geddy's musicianship, and despite the fact that *I* like them. I may have said this once here before.... Neil Peart wrote in one of his books that he was once approached by a "Rolling Stone" writer who confessed to him that Rush was the number one most-requested group to appear on a cover, but the magazine has a strict no-Rush policy. Hell, most new Rush albums aren't even reviewed -- despite the fact that so many reviewers mention Rush when reviewing other bands.... It's just become amusing, to an extent. Oh, and Rex -- come on, saying that I am your third-favorite Rush fan on the list? That's like me saying that you are my second-favorite Broome, or that Eddie is my twelfth-favorite frottage addict. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:34:55 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Rush! All Rush, all the time! > On 11/30/05, The Great Quail wrote: > > > > > > Oh, and Rex -- come on, saying that I am your third-favorite Rush fan on > > the > > list? That's like me saying that you are my second-favorite Broome, or > > that > > Eddie is my twelfth-favorite frottage addict. > > Yeah, that was lame. Sorry. I pretty much knew where I fell on your list of fave-rave Broomes, but it could be worse. I am curious about the other 11 frottage addicts, and how they earn such distinction over Eddie. But not that curious. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:39:34 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Smells like mean induction criteria > It's not so much a question of being "better," but of that "seminal" > thing. For the 50's groups I mentioned it is, but not for...say, The Sex Pistols. Bottom line, I think there's a minimum hurdle there; as long as each nominee has enough credibility that The Stone won't get buried in shitty pub, they are free to pick (and exclude) whomever they please. I think an interesting dynamic is when you have groups like Cream or the Lovin' Spoonful, which produced fabulous, influential music but for a *very* short period of time. Both are inducted, and I think deservedly so, but I wouldn't really describe either as "seminal." Does stamina count? In a musical sense, that is. If you have two or three great albums, is that enough? Apparently so. What about one great album? Because what we *do* need is Clapton inducted for a fourth time for "Blind Faith" or something. Michael "no, I'm not bitter...not in the least" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:45:46 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Rush! All Rush, all the time! > Yeah, that was lame. Sorry. I pretty much knew where I fell on your list > of fave-rave Broomes, but it could be worse. I am curious about the other > 11 frottage addicts, and how they earn such distinction over Eddie. But not > that curious. Well, you have to get in an elevator with Bayard and Chris Gross to really appreciate some good frottage. Eddie's fine and all, but he can't seem to get the subtlety down right -- and he keeps whispering in your ear, "This would be so much sexier of you were wearing Captain America underoos..." - --Q ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #278 ********************************