From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #276 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 28 2005 Volume 14 : Number 276 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Gin ["Marc Alberts" ] re: gin ["Melissa" ] RE: reap ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Gin ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Gin ["Matt Sewell" ] Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine [Benjamin Lukoff ] Never Mind the Bitches [Eb ] RE: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Eb ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Eb ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #275 [James Dignan ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Capuchin ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #275 [Tom Clark ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Spotted Eagle Ray ] Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine [2fs ] Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Never Mind the Bitches [Eb ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:39:01 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Gin Stewart wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > What the hell are you doing drinking aftershave? > > It was only to see if it really tasted like gin. Aqua Velva has the high > notes of Tanqueray. That's not as bad a call as it may seem. Both use a base of flavorless alcohol accented by herbals, only Tanqueray's herbals are primarily juniper berries (it is the most prominently juniper-flavored of the London dry gins, IMHO). A good gin should be very herbal in quality, but it should never be consumed straight unless you're either A) a lush, or B) one of the idiots that thinks the highest high point of bar consumption is an "arid" martini, which essentially is nothing more than gin shaken over ice and served straight up with only the brine from the olives to enhance the masochistic nature of the drink. Anyone who has an appreciation for the fine art of mixology knows the secret to gin is to mix it well, not to bring it to the forefront such that the gin comes at you as if it were Zsa Zsa Gabor and you were an officer with the Beverly Hills Police Department. For reference (in case you want to find some gin drinks that don't taste like you just gargled a spruce forest), I'd highly recommend Paul Harrington's book, "Cocktail." Quite the entertaining read, even if you're not much of a drinker. He really puts the romance into it--you almost want to put on the white dinner jacket and hang out at Rick's Cafi Americain sipping a highball. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:55:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Melissa" Subject: re: gin definitely get Hendricks gin. yummy and comes in fun packaging - looks like medicine bottle brown and shortnecked. you can see design here. used up nearly a whole bottle making martinis last party. Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:52:35 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: reap michael wells wrote: >> >>. At the risk of starting a music thread, I've started compiling by faves of >> 2005. > What's on other lists? Stewart came back with: >Ditto on the Sufjan and Marshmallow, though I gotta listen to The Duhks >more, 'cos it did nothing for me first time around. I'm pretty sure I'll >be including Sigur Ros, Kate Rusby and Bright Eyes on the list. >A very pleasantly surprising find is CARIBOU, which John the CD Pusher >slipped me at the weekend. They're a deal more electronic than I usually >like; imagine a slightly more shambolic Lemon Jelly, or OTC with less >Wilson and more rhythm. James, especially, might like them. The CD I >have is 'Marino Audio', which may be a sampler. Sufjan and Kate Rusby will definitely be on my list, along with The New Pornographers, The Go-Betweens, and for sure the buried treasure find of the year and also the decade so far : Thelonius Monk Quartet with John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall. Also under possible 2005 bests would be Laura Cantrell, Kate Bush, Aimee Mann and The Pernice Brothers. I need to pick up the new Sigur Ros and Marshmallow for sure! Michael B. NP Harmonia - Harmonia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:39:41 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Gin Marc Alberts wrote: > > That's not as bad a call as it may seem. Both use a base of flavorless > alcohol accented by herbals Minor gin trivia: most of Diageo's 'London' gins (Gordon's, and Tanqueray) are made in Scotland. The neutral grain spirit is made in Glenkinchie, Fife, where it's also used in blended whisky. Oh, and the mid-90s advertising push intended to get twentysomethings to try gin was instigated after United Distillers (now Diageo) discovered that most drinkers hadn't forgotten their teenage stealing-gin-from-the-parental-drinks-cabinet- followed-shortly-by-coniferous-vomit experience. cheers, Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:57:07 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: Gin Mark's absolutely right in re. mixers - essential, preferably tonic. Bombay Sapphire is good, but owned by Bacardi (anyone else boycott them?); Plymouth gin is the choice of the Savoy hotel, but for me it's too oily and not sharp enough. Weirdly, the gin I far prefer is Gordons, though that's owned by Diageo, another shady operator. I don't drink any of 'em though - gin gives me galloping indigestion. I prefer a good armagnac, cognac or a single island malt... Cheers Matt >From: Jeff Dwarf >Reply-To: Jeff Dwarf >To: Psychic Rabbit & The Jugband Hitlers >Subject: Gin >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:26:28 -0800 (PST) > >Anyone have any advice/preferences for buying a nice $25-30 >bottle of Gin suitable for a Christmas present? > > >"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." > -- Mitch Hedberg > > > >. > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Music Unlimited >Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. >http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:55:10 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... Over the weekend I stumbled across a good dollar record find. (anyone else here go to the record store and go on $1 album speading sprees?). I got a Randy VanWarmer album from 1980 on Bearsville Records (the dB's Like This was on this label). I think the album is called Terrescope. I've never heard of this Randy fellow, but he sure was a great song writer. Shame he died last year. The 1st track on the album- well the production sort of is very Underwater Moonlightish or maybe the guitars sound fegmania!-ish, but more in a dB's way. The 2nd song sounded to me like it was an outtake from the 1st Hot Hot Heat album, really! Anyway I'm delighted to find a new artist I like, but sadly his stuff is not really that available on cd (or is very pricey). lalala. Max, I wanted to thank you for the great Of Montreal Philly show. Very nice artwork! - -Nuppy PS: Screw gin! Why drink anything else besides Hangar 1 Vodka? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:31:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #275 On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:26:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeff Dwarf > Subject: Gin > > Anyone have any advice/preferences for buying a nice $25-30 > bottle of Gin suitable for a Christmas present? Here is a useful article from Wikipedia (at least I assume it's useful, my Dutch isn't as good as my mate John's): http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenever - - Mike Godwin n.p. Prince Buster, "Take it easy" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:04:02 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine > -Nuppy > > PS: Screw gin! Why drink anything else besides Hangar 1 Vodka? Because water is essential for sustaining bodily functions? You and your $1 vinyl finds! I need to cultivate that skill to bring my music jones in line with my budget. Anyone know anything about organs (the musical instruments, not the body parts)? I've just come into possession of a 1965 Baldwin upright thingy with the spinnet dealie (whirling Leslie-cabinet like thing). It sure is cool but I dunno what half of its functions are... - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: Gin On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Matt Sewell wrote: > Bombay Sapphire is good, but owned by Bacardi (anyone else boycott them?); What's the issue with Bacardi? > Plymouth gin is the choice of the Savoy hotel, but for me it's too oily and > not sharp enough. Weirdly, the gin I far prefer is Gordons, though that's > owned by Diageo, another shady operator. I don't drink any of 'em though - And with Diageo? Any shadier than any other international corporation? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Anyone know anything about organs (the musical instruments, not the body > parts)? I've just come into possession of a 1965 Baldwin upright thingy > with the spinnet dealie (whirling Leslie-cabinet like thing). It sure is > cool but I dunno what half of its functions are... Leslies are awesome. I managed to get my high school to give me theirs back when I was in tenth grade and I still have it in my garage, though I haven't used it in ages. If you have anything else that'll plug into it (guitar, microphone, whatever) try doing so. You can get some pretty cool sounds that way (though don't overdo it). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:39:24 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine > Leslies are awesome. I managed to get my high school to give me theirs > back when I was in tenth grade and I still have it in my garage, though I > haven't used it in ages. If you have anything else that'll plug into it > (guitar, microphone, whatever) try doing so. You can get some pretty cool > sounds that way (though don't overdo it). It's not a real Leslie but it's a spinning-horn thing that performs basically the same function. It looks like it would take a wilier wirer than I to get anything other than the organ itself to output to the speakers. But I do love the fact that for such a hefty piece of musical gear, it draws power from the wall via a lowly two-prong plug. Needing a flathead screwdriver to adjust the master volume is a nice touch, too. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:39:44 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Gin Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > What's the issue with Bacardi? I think they've been doing shady things about trying to overthrow the Castro regime. IIRC, they were huge supporters of Batista. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:17:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Never Mind the Bitches NEW YORK Nov 28, 2005 - Black Sabbath, Miles Davis and the Sex Pistols are among five musical legends to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation will hold its induction ceremony March 13 at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Manhattan, the organization announced Monday. Also to be inducted into the class of 2006: 1980s New Wave band Blondie and Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd. Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss, who founded A&M records in 1962, will receive a lifetime achievement award in the non-performer category. Inductees into the side-men category will be announced at a later date. Musicians, industry professionals and journalists vote on the nominations. Artists are eligible to be inducted into the Rock Hall after at least 25 years have passed since their first record was released. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:31:40 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine >> Leslies are awesome. I managed to get my high school to give me theirs >> back when I was in tenth grade and I still have it in my garage, though I >> haven't used it in ages. If you have anything else that'll plug into it >> (guitar, microphone, whatever) try doing so. You can get some pretty cool >> sounds that way (though don't overdo it). Rex: >It's not a real Leslie but it's a spinning-horn thing that performs >basically the same function. It looks like it would take a wilier wirer >than I to get anything other than the organ itself to output to the >speakers. But I do love the fact that for such a hefty piece of musical >gear, it draws power from the wall via a lowly two-prong plug. Needing a >flathead screwdriver to adjust the master volume is a nice touch, too. Clapton used to hook up his Strat to a Leslie back in the day. A couple of songs on Layla and other assorted Love Songs are recorded with it. The Layla 20 anniversary box set has all the 16 track sheets for all the songs, and it solves the mystery out of who is playing what on each song. Layla itself has like 6 guitar tracks. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:33:00 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Eb wrote: > NEW YORK Nov 28, 2005 - Black Sabbath, Miles Davis and the Sex > Pistols are among five musical legends to be inducted into the Rock > and Roll Hall of Fame. > > Also to be inducted into the class of 2006: 1980s New Wave band > Blondie and Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd. Exercise for today: Come up with an appropriate "All-Star Jam" playlist. 1. God Save Ironman 2. Oooh, That Smell (of Sweetleaf) - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:27:49 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches > Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss, who founded A&M records in 1962, will > receive a lifetime achievement award in the non-performer category. I mean, I get it and all, but Herb Alpert certainly isn't a non-performer... Man what a weird list of inductees. You don't often see Skynyrd and Blondie mentioned in the same breath. (I'm Always Touched By Your) Muttonchops, Dear. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:35:44 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss, who founded A&M records in 1962, will > receive a lifetime achievement award in the non-performer category. > > I mean, I get it and all, Are you sure? > but Herb Alpert certainly isn't a non-performer... This is like saying an actor shouldn't be nominated for Best Supporting Actor because he starred in other films. And don't look now, but Carole King is already inducted as a "Non Performer." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:56:10 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches At 04:27 PM 11/28/2005, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >Man what a weird list of inductees. You don't often see Skynyrd and Blondie >mentioned in the same breath. What this is is a clearinghouse of artists that haven't made the cut for several tries. I suppose this means that no great artist released their first recording in 1980. Shall we make *that* a grand new thread? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:13:16 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches Dolph Chaney wrote: >> Man what a weird list of inductees. You don't often see Skynyrd >> and Blondie >> mentioned in the same breath. > > What this is is a clearinghouse of artists that haven't made the > cut for several tries. I suppose this means that no great artist > released their first recording in 1980. Shall we make *that* a > grand new thread? It *is* a weak list, actually. As far as who has a prayer of getting into the Hall of Fame, the list probably goes no deeper than X. Some folks like the Feelies, Young Marble Giants and Tuxedomoon released good debut albums in '80, but come on...those bands won't get inducted, no matter how many years the Hall is around. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:29:15 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches On 11/28/05, Eb wrote: > > > > I mean, I get it and all, > > Are you sure? Doy, ahr, me no understandy. Of course I get it. > but Herb Alpert certainly isn't a non-performer... > > This is like saying an actor shouldn't be nominated for Best > Supporting Actor because he starred in other films. No, it's like saying an "actor" who is nominated for "directing" something is not therefore a "non-actor". And I didn't say anything "shouldn't happen". I just observed that it looks odd when someone who clearly is a performer is referred to as not being one. Christ, you're an ass. And gay. And bitter. Please reverse at least one of these conditions. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:35:59 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #275 >James Dignan wrote: > > it's a non-sport here in New Zealand, too, very distant after Rugby > > Union, Cricket, Rugby League, Netball... but Georgie's death was > > the third item on the TV news last night. A legend. > >I assume the #1 item was the apocalyptic horror of Nick and Jessica >splitting up, just like on American news. ;) Nick and Jessica who? Don't worry - I did a google news search and found out. Simpson I've heard of, but who the hell is Nick Lachley? Is he known for anything else other than marrying her? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:39:29 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > Christ, you're an ass. And gay. And bitter. Please reverse at least > one of these conditions. I see no reason why Eb should do anything at all about his sexual orientation and I resent the very idea that you think reversing it would make any change in his demeanor. I mean, he's not getting any anyway. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:38:19 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: >> but Herb Alpert certainly isn't a non-performer... >> >> This is like saying an actor shouldn't be nominated for Best >> Supporting Actor because he starred in other films. > > No, it's like saying an "actor" who is nominated for "directing" > something > is not therefore a "non-actor". And I didn't say anything "shouldn't > happen". I just observed that it looks odd when someone who > clearly is a > performer is referred to as not being one. I think you'll just have to get over this troubling dissonance. > Christ, you're an ass. And gay. And bitter. Please reverse at > least one > of these conditions. Anyone know who had Nov. 28 in the "Rex's hissies resume" pool? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:54:51 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #275 On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:35 PM, James Dignan wrote: > Nick and Jessica who? > > Don't worry - I did a google news search and found out. Simpson > I've heard of, but who the hell is Nick Lachley? Is he known for > anything else other than marrying her? He was in some boy band. Now he seems to just show up with her everywhere and smile a lot. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:03:34 -0800 From: Spotted Eagle Ray Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches > Jeme: > I see no reason why Eb should do anything at all about his sexual > orientation and I resent the very idea that you think reversing it would > make any change in his demeanor. My bad. I shouldn't've implied he should de-gay-ify, just that he should come out of the closet, which I think might solve a lot of problems for a lot of people. Because I care. That and I was just kidding anyway. - -R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:26:03 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Spotted Eagle Ray wrote: > > Leslies are awesome. I managed to get my high school to give me theirs > > back when I was in tenth grade and I still have it in my garage, though I > > haven't used it in ages. If you have anything else that'll plug into it > > (guitar, microphone, whatever) try doing so. You can get some pretty cool > > sounds that way (though don't overdo it). > > It's not a real Leslie but it's a spinning-horn thing that performs > basically the same function. It looks like it would take a wilier wirer > than I to get anything other than the organ itself to output to the > speakers. But I do love the fact that for such a hefty piece of musical How does the organ plug in? (My speaker has a preamp which takes a regular amp/mic cord.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:27:03 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Gin On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > > What's the issue with Bacardi? > > I think they've been doing shady things about trying to overthrow the > Castro regime. IIRC, they were huge supporters of Batista. Ah yes. Castro took over Bacardi in Cuba and now there's some sort of trademark fight, besides. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:04:57 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine On 11/28/05, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > How does the organ plug in? Isn't it time someone gave Benjamin "The Talk"? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:59:36 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #275 On 11/28/05, James Dignan wrote: > >I assume the #1 item was the apocalyptic horror of Nick and Jessica > >splitting up, just like on American news. ;) > > Nick and Jessica who? > > Don't worry - I did a google news search and found out. Simpson I've > heard of, but who the hell is Nick Lachley? Is he known for anything > else other than marrying her? Was she really known for anything other than marrying him? Then again, what the hell did Ed McMahon ever do but play second fiddle...and be famous for being famous? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:41:58 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Randy VanWarmer...Of Montreal... gin... organs... and a long red bottle of wine On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, 2fs wrote: > On 11/28/05, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > How does the organ plug in? > > Isn't it time someone gave Benjamin "The Talk"? Ha ha. Do you volunteer? :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:03:57 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches On 11/28/05, Eb wrote: > Anyone know who had Nov. 28 in the "Rex's hissies resume" pool? We need another episode of "WanderLust: The Next Adventure" and pronto... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:58:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Never Mind the Bitches 2fs wrote: > We need another episode of "WanderLust: The Next Adventure" and > pronto... Paging the list's *real* closet case.... ;) Now here's a question: Who should induct Miles Davis at the ceremony? This was idly bouncing through my head on the road, a bit ago. George Clinton: not articulate enough Prince: unable to speak above a whisper Wynton Marsalis: asshead, and probably resents Miles anyway Bill Laswell: no star power Jessica Simpson: booked elsewhere My choice...Herbie Hancock. You? Speculate about the other four inductees if you like, but I just didn't find that question as interesting. Rob Zombie, Gwen Stefani, Dave Matthews, Queen Elizabeth...whatever. Top of my head. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:23:54 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Stan Berenstain - of eponymous bears fame. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #276 ********************************