From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #232 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 28 2005 Volume 14 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: random "huh!" discovery [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #231 [M R Godwin ] No Direction ["Hurricane Jesus" ] Re: random "huh!" discovery [Jeff Dwarf ] Austin City Limits (long winded, minor Robyn related content) ["Marc Hold] NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - 2004-11-15 - World Cafe Live, Philadelphia, PA (cmc4/HiMD AUD Master) [] Giant squid on camera ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Re: random "huh!" discovery ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] RE: random "huh!" discovery ["Matt Sewell" ] DeLay indicted [Christopher Gross ] No Direction Home [The Great Quail ] Re: The Orange Curtain [Eb ] Re: No Direction Home [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: DeLay indicted [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: DeLay indicted ["Bachman, Michael" ] quick NDH thoughts [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:59:51 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: random "huh!" discovery On Sep 27, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Eb wrote: > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese program? Only halfway through it, but so far: Brilliant. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:30:30 +0100 From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V14 #231 Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 27 2005 Volume 14 : Number 231 > > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:12:21 -0700 > From: Eb > Subject: random "huh!" discovery > > I had always thought Don Adams did "Tennessee Tuxedo" AFTER "Get > Smart." Oops.... > > Eb > > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese program? > * "Not the Cone of Silence, Max!" I've written pages and pages of notes about the Bob and Martin show, and will share some of them with you in due course. Did some of the ones who were slagging him off have the nerve to ask for his autograph? Or did I get that wrong? Anyway, I thought that Liam Clancy and Dave Van Ronk had more insights than most of the others. And was it 25 albums he nicked from Paul Nelson or 400? I can see why Paul was annoyed either way. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Family "Dim" . You can see me on the back cover of this reissue - I'm the one wearing a Panama hat with a heavy reel to reel "portable" in a black flight bag. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:05:55 -0700 From: "Hurricane Jesus" Subject: No Direction the footage of hank was captivating! don't think i've ever seen video of him before. otherwise, i don't care for the framing device; and with the exception of van ronk's, the interviews are fairly boring. all told (so far): worth watching; but, given the subject matter and the helmsman, disappointing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: random "huh!" discovery Eb wrote: > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese > program? It's around 13 or 14 on my NetFlix list so I'm not bothering with watching it on PBS. That and I'm already busy recording Arrested Development and The Office while watching the A's death knell 2005. "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." -- Mitch Hedberg . __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:57:51 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Austin City Limits (long winded, minor Robyn related content) I'm still recovering from going to the Austin City Limits music festival last weekend. I breathed enough dust to give a new layer of topsoil to my garden, so the allergies are really in high gear right now. I ran into the guys from the Black Keys as I was checking in to pick up my rental car. Fortunately, I had a two class upgrade coupon on the car, which made a difference later. I had arrived in town a bit later than I wanted, so I headed straight to the parking area so I could catch the rest of the day's bands. I went from stage to stage more than usual, so I saw a lot of bands but few full sets. On the first day, I saw Lucinda Williams, Robert Earl Keen, Spoon, John Prine, the Allman Brothers, Keane, Blues Traveler, Lyle Lovett and his Large Band, and the Black Crowes. I met Lucinda Williams at a signing, but overall the day was just okay. Nothing too amazing, but a decent enough start until I learned something important... I learned that hotel reservations need to be made before hand if hurricane evacuations are even a remote possibility. I had figured that I'd be able to find some dive motel in a sleazy part of town, but everything was booked solid. Someone suggested that I drive a bit north of town to Round Rock and try. Again, no luck. I tried the next couple of towns, and kept heading north. It turned out that there were no rooms available even as far north as Waco, which was where I turned around and headed back towards Austin. I decided to sleep in the car, so the size upgrade really came in handy. Still, I was going to need to clean up in the morning, so I stopped to buy a towel (yeah, I should always know where my towel is...), and on the way to day two of the show, I sneaked into one of the academic buildings at UT to clean up. That worked out really well, and I felt ready for the day. Good thing, because it would be a busy one. I saw Tracy Bonham (filling in for Tegan and Sara, who got stuck at the airport in Houston), the Asylum Street Spankers, Aqualung, Buddy Guy (who wore a black shirt with white polka dots, and went Robyn one better playing a white guitar with black polka dots), the Frames, Death Cab for Cutie, the Fiery Furnaces, Jet, Roky Erickson & the Explosives (the main reason I went to this year's festival), Oasis, and Widespread Panic. I ran into Tracy Bonham and the Fiery Furnaces in the crowd, and met Roky at a signing. I'd been wanting to see Roky for a couple of decades now, and would have been happy just to see him just sing a couple of songs (as he had in smaller settings a couple times in the last few years). It seems he is doing much better recently, because Roky did a full set, played guitar through out, and seemed to be enjoying himself a lot. It was just incredible, way beyond my expectations or hopes. He seemed a bit timid during the signing that he did, very quiet but seeming happy to be there. Man, I'm still smiling about it. I never thought I'd have a chance to see Roky perform, much less to meet him. To say the least, it was worth all the expense and hassle of making it out to the festival right there. To wrap the day up on a great note, I found a room that night (some people had starting heading back south when it became clear that Houston had not taken the storm directly). It turned out to be my only chance to sleep in a bed the whole weekend or get a real shower, so it was worth the hunt I went through. Sunday had some of the best bands of the weekend (besides Roky and the Fiery Furnaces). I caught Rilo Kiley, Doves, Kaiser Chiefs, the Bravery, the Arcade Fire, Bob Mould, the Decemberists, Franz Ferdinand, Wilco, the Black Keys, Tortoise, and Coldplay. The Arcade Fire and Decemberists were great as expected, and I really liked Franz Ferdinand and the Black Keys. I also ran into Rick Gershon (Robyn's friend and former manager) in the crowd during the Decemberists. A great day overall, which made sleeping at the airport all the more worth it (6 a.m. flight back to Phoenix so I'd be at work on time). Anyway, sorry about the length of this post, but there was a lot to cover there. Figured one or two people would at least want the Roky Erickson update if nothing else. Later, Marc "Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up!"--Mr. Death (the Grim Reaper), Monty Python's Meaning of Life. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:14:13 -0400 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - 2004-11-15 - World Cafe Live, Philadelphia, PA (cmc4/HiMD AUD Master) http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=61671&hit=1 - ----- Forwarded message from DIME ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 61671 Title: Robyn Hitchcock - 2004-11-15 - World Cafe Live, Philadelphia, PA (cmc4/HiMD AUD Master) Size: 629.60 MB Category: Singer/Songwriter Uploaded by: woj Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The third of three November 2004 shows from Max to you via me... _______________________________________________________________ Robyn Hitchcock @ WorlD Cafe Live November 15, 2005 CMC-4>SP-SPSB-2>MZ-NH900>USB>Sonic Stage>Wav Converter>AA>Flac This is a HI-MD recording recorded in pcm format. Recorded dead center, 3 from the stage. Disc 1 01 Robyn Takes the stage and takes requests 02 A Skull a Suitcase and a Long Red Bottle of Wine 03 now, this water 04 I Got the Hots 05 Tonight 06 Ghost Ship 07 The Veins Of The Queen 08 Heaven 09 Penelope's Angles 10 Brenda's Iron Sledge 11 Dark Globe 12 Mexican God 13 Cheese Alarm 14 Idonia Disc 2 01 Ride 02 Driving Aloud 03 Creeped Out 04 thank you 05 No, I don't Remember Guilford 06 Visions Of Johanna 07 Balloon Man 08 The Speed Of Things 09 Gene Hackman 10 Well Well Well 11 Full Moon 12 Rock Your Baby 13 Sound and Vision 14 All Shook Up This was recorded at the then brand new WCL. Robyn seemed to be in a good mood, I remember enjoying this show at the time. I had seen three Robyn shows in the week prior to this and at the time thought this to be the strongest of the four. This was a request show. A few of notes on the recording: There is a syncopated percussive sound during Ghost Ship, this is due to the mic on Robyn's guitar coming loose. After the song he leaves the stage (you can hear the stage door close)and comes back with duct tape. There are a couple of patches from someone else's recording (thank you Harold!). They are drasticaly different but I put them in in order to have the entire show from start to finish. He did an actual encore at this show, even though he said he would not. He had not done any on that tour(as far as I know), so it was a real surprise. He did this by walking through the crowd sans mic. I got lucky that he didn't wander too much at all so it's nice and loud, unlike my Scranton recording. He then hopped onsatge (still no mics) and did All Shook Up. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:17:40 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Giant squid on camera Am on the digest version, so apologies if posted already, but... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4288772.stm Charlotte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:46:11 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: random "huh!" discovery > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese program? > I'll have to ask my father about that...I missed it but I stopped by my parents' and noticed or perhaps caught my father was watching it. What was really odd was his not harassing Joan Biaz (i.e. on the television)...as far as I could tell, she was leading it just soooo open for his curmudgeon comments, which seem to be at their height when anything 1960s is involved. My Dad is in his early 70's and his interests just get stranger and stranger. It's kinda cool. I, on the other hand, need to work on my interests which basically comprise coming to terms with the end of Six Feet Under, Elliott Smith (yeah, not much new material*) and waiting for the rest of Philip K. Dick's novels to be made into movies. xo Lauren * but I have some good bootleg DVDs if anyone's interested - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------ "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:38:29 EDT From: MPys2626@aol.com Subject: Scientists Capture Giant Squid on Film for First Time Scientists Capture Giant Squid on Film for First Time By HIROKO TABUCHI, AP TOKYO (Sept. 28) - The giant squid can be found in books and in myths, but for the first time, a team of Japanese scientists has captured on film one of the most mysterious creatures of the deep-sea in its natural habitat. The team led by Tsunemi Kubodera, from the National Science Museum in Tokyo, tracked the 26-foot long Architeuthis as it attacked prey nearly 3,000 feet deep off the coast of Japan's Bonin islands. "We believe this is the first time a grown giant squid has been captured on camera in its natural habitat," said Kyoichi Mori, a marine researcher who co-authored a piece in Wednesday's issue of the Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences. The camera was operated by remote control during research at the end of October 2004, Mori told The Associated Press on Wednesday. Mori said the giant squid , purplish red like its smaller brethren, attacked its quarry aggressively, calling into question the image of the animal as lethargic and slow moving. "Contrary to belief that the giant squid is relatively inactive, the squid we captured on film actively used its enormous tentacles to go after prey," Mori said. "It went after some bait that we had on the end of the camera and became stuck, and left behind a tentacle" about six yards long, Mori said. Kubodera, also reached by the AP, said researchers ran DNA tests on the tentacle and found it matched those of other giant squids found around Japan. "But other sightings were of smaller, or very injured squids washed toward the shore _ or of parts of a giant squid ," Kubodera said. "This is the first time a full-grown, healthy squid has been sighted in its natural environment in deep water." Kubodera said the giant squid 's tentacle would not grow back, but the squid 's life was not in danger. Jim Barry, a marine biologist at Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute in California, has searched for giant squid on his own expeditions without luck. "It's the holy grail of deep sea animals," he said. "It's one that we have never seen alive, and now someone has video of one." New Zealand's leading authority on the giant squid , marine biologist Steve O'Shea, praised the Japanese team's feat. "Through sheer ... determination the guy has gone on and done it," said O'Shea, chief marine scientist at the Auckland University of Technology, who is not linked to the Japanese research. O'Shea said he hopes to capture juvenile giant squid and grow them in captivity. He captured 17 of them five years ago but they died in captivity. "Our reaction is one of tremendous relief that the so-called ... race (to film the giant squid ) is over ... because the animal has consumed the last eight or nine years of my life," O'Shea said of the film. Giant squid have long attracted human fascination, appearing in myths of the ancient Greeks, as well as Jules Verne's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea." Scientific interest in the animals has surged in recent years as more specimens have been caught in commercial fishing nets or found washed up on shores. Kubodera would make no claims about the scientific significance of his team's work. "As for the impact our discovery will have on marine research, I'll leave to other researchers to decide," he said. Other biologists saidi they expected the video would provide insight on the animal's behavior underwater. "Nobody has been able to observe a large giant squid where it lives," said Randy Kochevar, a deep sea biologist also with the Monterey aquarium. "There are people who said it would never be done." Associated Press reporters Ray Lilley in Wellington, New Zealand, and Terence Chea in San Francisco contributed to this report. 09-28-05 03:28 EDT "Strange how potent cheap music is." - - Noel Coward ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:49:44 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: random "huh!" discovery Eb wrote: > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese program? Did I miss any Byrds content? I dozed off of a minute or two and might have missed it. I would have thought there would be some interviews with McGuinn about Dylan or Dylan about the Byrds, but I didn't catch any. It was amazing to hear all the cat-calls and boos he got. No wonder he stayed off the road for so long after the motorcycle accident. Was Bob invited to play at Woodstock? Or was he still in a recovery mode? I seriously doubt that he would have been booed at Woodstock. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: xx Subject: The Orange Curtain Let me preface this by stating that I work in the audio department for a post production company. Last night, I was working on the third episode of the third season of "The O.C." In simple terms, I was mixing the music and effects tracks together and recording them on to channels 3&4 of a videotape (and keeping it in sync with program content). Therefore, the music and effects stand out during the 'layback' process. Near the end of the show an uplifting ballad started spewing out of the speakers. I recognized the song, but couldn't place it - until I heard the lyrics: 'What a beautiful face I have found in this place..." Someone had covered "In The Aeroplane Over The Sea"! I started screaming. Maybe I am overreacting, but I really hated it. Perhaps it was the context - two things that should never be associated (OC & NMH). Ruined my night. This morning I actually went to Fox's website and found out who covered the track. It is a band called "matt pond PA". They can be found at www.mattpondpa.com - -griffith at least I get paid to watch The OC. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:34:16 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: random "huh!" discovery Have to say I've been utterly glued to the screen the past couple of nights - probably the best documentary (a rockumentary, if you will*) I've ever seen. There was mention of The Byrds and a short clip of them on something like TOTP. Dylan himself said "a band called The Byrds covered Hey Mr Tamborine Man", going on to snarl something about how he hated the jangle that was popular at the time... blimey! Cheers Matt *Oh sorry, I couldn't resist! -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bachman, Michael" Reply-To: "Bachman, Michael" To: "Vanished Like The Trilobite (E-mail)" Subject: RE: random "huh!" discovery Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:49:44 -0400 >Eb wrote: > > > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese program? > >Did I miss any Byrds content? I dozed off of a minute or two and might >have missed it. I would have thought there would be some interviews with >McGuinn about Dylan or Dylan about the Byrds, but I didn't catch any. > >It was amazing to hear all the cat-calls and boos he got. No wonder he stayed >off the road for so long after the motorcycle accident. > >Was Bob invited to play at Woodstock? Or was he still in a recovery mode? >I seriously doubt that he would have been booed at Woodstock. > >Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:16:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: DeLay indicted Sorry, no music content, though if he's convicted a round of the Hallelujah Chorus may be in order.... Tom DeLay has been indicted for criminal conspiracy in Texas and has stepped down, at least temporarily, as House Majority Leader. http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/28/delay.investigation.ap/index.html ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:14:43 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: No Direction Home > PS No one going to say anything about the Dylan/Scorsese program? I thought it was pretty damn good. I liked the way Scorsese used Dylan's plugging-in as an endpoint, and worked up until that. It gave the piece an interesting narrative twist. But most importantly, of course, the archival footage! Wow -- amazing. The CD set is pretty good, too. All in all, so much better than that stilted Ken Burns style that's become so pervasive. I agree with Eddie -- seeing Hank Williams was great! Ditto Johnny Cash. And -- Joan Baez, swearing and funny? Who knew? - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:50:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Orange Curtain > Maybe I am overreacting, but I really hated it. > Perhaps it was the context - two things that should > never be associated (OC & NMH). Ruined my night. > > This morning I actually went to Fox's website and > found out who covered the track. It is a band called > "matt pond PA". They can be found at > www.mattpondpa.com I heard about this already from others, but I don't watch the show and haven't heard the cover. Maybe I'll see if the mp3 is around. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: No Direction Home The Great Quail wrote: > And -- Joan Baez, swearing and funny? Who knew? Swearing, well maybe, but anyone who has heard the Dylan impression she does on her studio version of "Simple Twist of Fate" knows she can be funny. "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." -- Mitch Hedberg . __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: DeLay indicted Christopher Gross wrote: > Sorry, no music content, though if he's convicted a round > of the Hallelujah Chorus may be in order.... Tom DeLay > has been indicted for criminal conspiracy in Texas and > has stepped down, at least temporarily, as House Majority > Leader. Just shocking. Not the indictment, that he actually stepped aside as Majority Leader fo rthe time being. That he's corrupt, well, you might as well be shocked when that Robyn Hitchcock guy does a Dylan cover live or records with Peter Buck. > "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." -- Mitch Hedberg . __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:17:44 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: DeLay indicted Christopher Gross wrote: >> Sorry, no music content, though if he's convicted a round >> of the Hallelujah Chorus may be in order.... Tom DeLay >> has been indicted for criminal conspiracy in Texas and >> has stepped down, at least temporarily, as House Majority >> Leader. Jeff: >Just shocking. Not the indictment, that he actually stepped >aside as Majority Leader fo rthe time being. That he's >corrupt, well, you might as well be shocked when that Robyn >Hitchcock guy does a Dylan cover live or records with Peter >Buck. Depending on how far the lobbyist investigations go with Abramoff and his henchmen, Delay won't be the only guy charged I am betting. It could go as high as Frist, or so some of the pollitical wags were saying on some of the Sunday politcal shows. Michael B. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:21:57 EDT From: KCasey@aol.com Subject: Mossy Liquor This may be old news, but it was a surprise to me. Mossy Liquor is available for purchase on iTunes as part of Rhino Records' 27th Anniversary promotion. I've waited a long time to be able to have "Trilobite" on my Pod. KC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:50:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Mossy Liquor On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 KCasey@aol.com wrote: > This may be old news, but it was a surprise to me. Mossy Liquor is available > for purchase on iTunes as part of Rhino Records' 27th Anniversary promotion. > I've waited a long time to be able to have "Trilobite" on my Pod. Was anyone able to confirm if the vinyl version of Storefront Hitchcock is also available at the iTunes Music Store? Someone mentioned this, but when I did a search, the names of the "verbals" seemed to be from the CD version. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:51:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: quick NDH thoughts It was certainly very good...my mind wasn't QUITE as blown as I expected it to be, for whatever reason. Maybe I just would have liked less footage of other performers (especially during the first night), and more sizeable chunks of Dylan's own performances. Also, there was a lot of time devoted to the Highway 61 Revisited sessions, yet basically NONE devoted to Blonde on Blonde. I don't understand this, since Blonde on Blonde is the obvious capstone to this era of his career. There were short clips of him singing "Pillbox Hat" and "Johanna," but nothing at all about actually recording the Blonde on Blonde songs in the studio. I didn't get it confirmed whether they really had the "Judas" incident on film, so I was excited/surprised when that finally popped up. I like how they saved it for the very end, like the money shot in a porn film. They KNEW that was the biggie. ;) I also really, really liked the clips from the "controversial" Newport Folk Festival appearance. I thought Bob was really "on" that night -- his voice sounded great, and he seemed much more mentally in the game than he did in some more "bored"-looking performances. And then, there was the case of that "Johanna" clip near the end, where he was clearly stooooooooned.... Anyway, to make an obvious comparison, I wasn't quite as thrilled as I was by the Beatles/Anthology series. Might have been more thrilled, if I hadn't already seen "Eat the Document" and that famous press conference where he says he's a song-and-dance man, etc. (And I saw the WHOLE press conference, not just highlights.) Tonight, PBS is showing more '60s junk...a two-hour special about "pop and protest," followed by a special focusing on Pete Best. 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