From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #188 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 5 2005 Volume 14 : Number 188 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: English like what she is spoked [James Dignan ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Tulloch ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Jeff ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Tulloch ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Christopher Gross ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Jeff ] Re: English like what she is spoked ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: English like what she is spoked ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Jeff ] Re: English like what she is spoked [Tom Clark ] Hmn...nmH [Eb ] Re: Hmn...nmH [Eb ] Re: Hmn...nmH [Jeff ] Re: Hmn...nmH ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Hmn...nmH [Eb ] Re: Hmn...nmH [The Great Quail ] Re: Hmn...nmH [Eb ] review of swap mix [Jeff ] Re: review of swap mix [Eb ] RE: Hmn...nmH ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: Hmn...nmH [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Hmn...nmH [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:56:15 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked Jef+f wrote: >On 8/4/05, James Dignan wrote: > > > 1. Using "swim" to mean "swimming" (As in a Swim meeting or Swim >> team) and any similar usages. > >You've mentioned this before, and I'm still not sure why it bugs you >so... Why shouldn't that be a specialized usage (like "the batter >flied out to left field in his last at-bat" in baseball) among >swimmers? (And I suppose you'd hate it more if it were "swim meet" >rather than "swim meeting" - I usually do hear it the first way!) I do hate it more as swim meet. The sport is swimming - swim is what they do. We don't talk about track meetings as being run meets, and no-one calls the Kentucky Derby a ride race, or the Indy 500 a drive race, do they? > > 2. Using "alternate" to mean "alternative" (maybe this is an American >> thing?). Alternate is a verb meaning to change repeatedly between two >> things. > >Maybe. From the American Heritage Dictionary, New College Edition, >usage note at "alternative": "*Alternate* ...also pertain[s] to choice >in the sense of substitution (second choice)." I assume this is what >you mean - as in "her alternate selection was the flounder"? exactly. Alternat*ive* selection. > > 3. "The quick and the dead" - quick means "living", not "fast", in >> this context! > >Errr...who uses the word "quick" in the sense of "living" outside this >entombed phrase? I don't think anyone thinks it means "fast-moving >dead" - although someone in a zombie movie ought to use the line! that's not my point. People tend to use the phrase to mean "you have to move fast if you don't want to be left behind - the slow are as good as dead", which is not what it means. It simply means everyone, living or dead. It's like "Survival of the fittest" - Darwin's original meaning was "survival of the species that *best fit* their environment" - nothing to do with fitness in its modern sense. It's just that the meaning of the word has changed and so the real meaning of the phrase has become garbled. James (did I mention "seperate"?) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 22:30:24 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On 8/4/05, James Dignan wrote: > > I do hate it more as swim meet. The sport is swimming - swim is what > they do. We don't talk about track meetings as being run meets, and > no-one calls the Kentucky Derby a ride race, or the Indy 500 a drive > race, do they? No - but as I said, different disciplines and fields develop their own lingo and terminology. > > > 2. Using "alternate" to mean "alternative" (maybe this is an American > >> thing?). Alternate is a verb meaning to change repeatedly between two > >> things. > > > >Maybe. From the American Heritage Dictionary, New College Edition, > >usage note at "alternative": "*Alternate* ...also pertain[s] to choice > >in the sense of substitution (second choice)." I assume this is what > >you mean - as in "her alternate selection was the flounder"? > > exactly. Alternat*ive* selection. Yes, but as noted, AHD says the usage you dislike is acceptable. > > > 3. "The quick and the dead" - quick means "living", not "fast", in > >> this context! > > > >Errr...who uses the word "quick" in the sense of "living" outside this > >entombed phrase? I don't think anyone thinks it means "fast-moving > >dead" - although someone in a zombie movie ought to use the line! > > that's not my point. People tend to use the phrase to mean "you have > to move fast if you don't want to be left behind - the slow are as > good as dead", which is not what it means. It simply means everyone, > living or dead. Maybe that's a NZ thing - I've never heard it used that way! > It's like "Survival of the fittest" - Darwin's original meaning was > "survival of the species that *best fit* their environment" - nothing > to do with fitness in its modern sense. I've always read it simply meant "most fit to reproduce" - i.e., a nearly self-evdent statement. Your paraphrase and mine ultimately are equivalent, of course - since those most fit to reproduce *are* those that best fit their environment. Any actual biologists here might weigh in... - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:19:20 +0100 (BST) From: Tulloch Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked My pet hate is the non-word "signage" - what in Feg's name is wrong with the simple plural "signs" ? And don't get me started on the misuse of the apostrophe... - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 09:42:11 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On 8/5/05, Tulloch wrote: > My pet hate is the non-word "signage" - what in Feg's name is wrong with the simple plural "signs" ? "Signage" refers to the use, functionality, and distribution of signs - - not just signs as such. For example: "the intersection had inadequate signage, which contributed to the accident." That could cover a situation where, say, a sign was at an angle that made it less visible to a viewer. Saying "inadequate signs" suggests either a flaw in the signs themselves (as opposed to their placement) or that there were too few signs. I don't like the word "wellness" - what's wrong with "health"? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:52:31 +0100 (BST) From: Tulloch Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked Ok, point taken but you could just say it in a different way such as "inadequately signposted". Sineage is a horrible, ugly word and should be avoided at all costs. Jeff wrote:On 8/5/05, Tulloch wrote: > My pet hate is the non-word "signage" - what in Feg's name is wrong with the simple plural "signs" ? "Signage" refers to the use, functionality, and distribution of signs - - not just signs as such. For example: "the intersection had inadequate signage, which contributed to the accident." That could cover a situation where, say, a sign was at an angle that made it less visible to a viewer. Saying "inadequate signs" suggests either a flaw in the signs themselves (as opposed to their placement) or that there were too few signs. I don't like the word "wellness" - what's wrong with "health"? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com - --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Jeff wrote: > I don't like the word "wellness" - what's wrong with "health"? The university where I work boasts a Health & Wellness Center. "Signage" is an ugly word, there's no denying it; but it's also a necessary term among those who have to create and maintain signs. "Our signs, their placement, and the policies and procedures relating to sign design, creation and placement" is a bit too clumsy. Of course library signage is a depressing field, because experience quickly shows that no one actually reads the signs. But as I always say, if people wanted to read, why would they be in a library? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:20:51 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On 8/5/05, Tulloch wrote: > Ok, point taken but you could just say it in a different way such as "inadequately signposted". Sineage is a horrible, ugly word and should be avoided at all costs. I think, though, that once again we're talking about a trade-specific term: the folks who actually work with (sorry) signage call it "signage," and it's as likely that we can change that as we can get musicians, say, to not refer to "gigs" because the rest of the world calls them "shows" or something. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 08:17:45 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked At 06:00 PM 8/4/2005, James Dignan wrote: >3. "The quick and the dead" - quick means "living", not "fast", in >this context! I was just up in Napa this past weekend, and a winemaker at Biale used this phrase in the "the fast and those that miss out" sense, and it bugged the crap out of me. >5. Dare I mention the pronunciation "nucular"? You know what really bothers me? When people put an extra syllable in Tijuana. It's tee-wah-nuh, not tee-UH-wah-nuh. But I guess that's Spanish, not English - but it's only English speakers that do it. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:53:25 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked Nothing wrong with signage; it's shorter than 'signposted', or its variants. You wouldn't believe the number of requests Collins dictionaries gets to remove words from the dictionary because people don't like them. One writer -- in the habitual tiny crabbed handwritten green-ink-on-index-cards method of the career nutjob -- requested that 'bridge' and several other common nouns be removed, for they were 'words of the devil'. Doesn't compare to the hoo-hah we had when we put 'fuckwit' in as a synonym for 'stupid' in a family thesaurus, tho' ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:45:26 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On 8/5/05, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Nothing wrong with signage; it's shorter than 'signposted', or its variants. > > You wouldn't believe the number of requests Collins dictionaries gets to > remove words from the dictionary because people don't like them. One > writer -- in the habitual tiny crabbed handwritten > green-ink-on-index-cards method of the career nutjob -- requested that > 'bridge' and several other common nouns be removed, for they were 'words > of the devil'. Someone had to have saved that one, no? I'd be curious what this guy's complete list of "words of the devil" consisted of... Might it have sounded rather like that Syd Barrett track "Word Song"? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:10:36 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked Jeff wrote: > > Someone had to have saved that one, no? I'd be curious what this guy's > complete list of "words of the devil" consisted of... Yeah, I think the Keeper of The Thesaurus (aka the sister of the drummer and the keyboard player from The Enid*) still has them. Stewart *: well, the drummer and the keyboard player from The Enid whose names happen to be Gilmour, at any rate. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:08:29 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On Aug 5, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Tulloch wrote: > Sineage is a horrible, ugly word and should be avoided at all costs. I think you guys should lighten up on Sineage. She's already taken a lot of shit about that Pope thing. - - Steve Two new Studio Ghibli movies out on DVD next Tuesday. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:22:58 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On 8/5/05, Steve Schiavo wrote: > On Aug 5, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Tulloch wrote: > > > Sineage is a horrible, ugly word and should be avoided at all costs. > > I think you guys should lighten up on Sineage. She's already taken a > lot of shit about that Pope thing. Is a bear Catholic? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:32:10 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: English like what she is spoked On Aug 5, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Jeff wrote: > On 8/5/05, Steve Schiavo wrote: > >> On Aug 5, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Tulloch wrote: >> >> >>> Sineage is a horrible, ugly word and should be avoided at all costs. >>> >> >> I think you guys should lighten up on Sineage. She's already taken a >> lot of shit about that Pope thing. >> > > Is a bear Catholic? Depends where he shits. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:19:14 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Hmn...nmH I read today that In the Aeroplane Over the Sea now has sold 141K copies (On Avery Island was back at 67K, or some other figure in the 60's). Pretty damn impressive. I wonder if it's the biggest seller in Merge history? I can't imagine what else could have sold that much, especially considering that the prime Superchunk albums were originally through Matador. As much as I worship this CD, even I am surprised at how its mystique/ acclaim continues to grow and grow. Even to the point that it's being analyzed in Continuum's "33 1/3" book series -- as far as I know, it's the most obscure album by miles to be given this treatment. The Replacements' Let It Be is the only other example even in the ballpark. I don't think anyone posted this link yet (?): http://prefixmag.typepad.com/prefixmag_blog/2005/08/lets_just_say_o.html Pictures from the recent Mangum appearance with OTC. Now, I'll expect dozens of replies to this post, concerning issues such as whether "60's" is proper, whether album titles should be in quotes, why we sometimes use "pretty" as an adjective modifier to indicate volume, etc. etc. etc. Please do not disappoint me. As a bonus, for your stupefaction and delight, I now shall propose a tentative list of the top 40 artists which I used to enjoy and do not any longer. Acts are ranked just approximately, based on initial enjoyment level. Others are welcome to suggest their own candidates, or object to me associating periods with ordinal numbers rather than closed parentheses. 1. The Godfathers 2. Styx 3. The Osmonds 4. Eleventh Dream Day 5. Inspiral Carpets 6. UFO 7. Rush 8. The Lilac Time 9. Poster Children 10. Trip Shakespeare 11. The Black Watch 12. Green on Red 13. Dharma Bums 14. Bill Nelson 15. Michelle Shocked 16. Elliott Sharp 17. The Wipers 18. Caterwaul 19. Urban Dance Squad 20. Eggplant 21. Mercury Rev 22. Medicine 23. Madder Rose 24. Terence Trent D'Arby 25. Close Lobsters 26. The Magnolias 27. The Pontiac Brothers 28. Pop Will Eat Itself 29. Pierce Turner 30. The Dream Syndicate/Steve Wynn 31. Lime Spiders 32. Chapterhouse 33. Meat Beat Manifesto 34. The Church/Steve Kilbey 35. The Dead Milkmen 36. The Universal Congress Of 37. Curve 38. B.A.L.L. 39. Mary's Danish 40. When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water Yes, the scars of junior high school run deep. Meanwhile, I'm trying to recall: Was the original curtailed run of "Wonderfalls" one of those deals where the network cherrypicked certain episodes, rather than just running the first "n" of them in order? (I don't recall how many were actually shown...four?) Eb "Don't just sit there like cabbages growing into the floor!!" -- stock phrase of my eighth-grade French teacher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:45:18 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH >> I read today that In the Aeroplane Over the Sea now has sold 141K >> copies (On Avery Island was back at 67K, or some other figure in the >> 60's). Pretty damn impressive. I wonder if it's the biggest seller in >> Merge history? I can't imagine what else could have sold that much >> > > 69 Love Songs, maybe? Yeah, true...that one didn't occur to me. Could be a challenger. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:47:50 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH On 8/5/05, Eb wrote: > Meanwhile, I'm trying to recall: Was the original curtailed run of "Wonderfalls" one of those deals where the network cherrypicked certain episodes, rather than just running the first "n" of them in order? (I don't recall how many were actually shown...four?) I think it was in fact the first four in sequence - I'd have to check my DVDs when I get home. My new pet theory is that the show would have survived on a smaller network, like the WB, particularly if it had a sympathetic lead-in. My master plan, actually, involves it being placed following _Gilmore Girls_. Damned shame - having watched all the _Wonderfalls_ episodes (or should I say "'sodes"?) I really have come to like the show, more than I did during its broadcast run. > Now, I'll expect dozens of replies to this post, concerning issues > such as whether "60's" is proper, whether album titles should be in > quotes, why we sometimes use "pretty" as an adjective modifier to > indicate volume, etc. etc. etc. Please do not disappoint me. 1) "60's" is wrong; there's no need for apostrophes in forming plurals of numbers, particularly non- single-digit numbers. If there's an apostrophe needed at all, it should be before the "6," to designate that it's short for "1960s." 2) MLA, Chicago, and most other sources that I've seen follow the logic that an album is analogous to a book, a play, etc. (an independently published unit, sometimes made up of smaller units) and therefore that its title should be italicized. Song titles, along the lines of titles of short stories, poems, etc., appear in quotation marks. For reasons utterly bizarre and mysterious, _USA Today_ reverses that convention. 3) You're right - that's curious. I imagine it arose from being initially a merely positive term, and then developed into an intensifier ("pretty big"). The dictionary I have access to right now (Webster's New Collegiate) is of no particular help with this usage - although the etymology of "pretty" is pretty interesting (urk...), as it originally meant "tricky" or "clever," evolved into "artful," and from there specialized to its usage concerning appearance, etc. > As a bonus, for your stupefaction and delight, I now shall propose a > tentative list of the top 40 artists which I used to enjoy and do not > any longer. Say what? No Sc*tt M*ller-led acts listed? ;-) (And no Rex Broome either.) - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:57:45 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH Eb wrote: > I wonder if it's the biggest seller in Merge history? Don't think so. The Arcade Fire's Funeral sold as many in six months as ITAOTS has since 1998. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:11:02 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH >> As a bonus, for your stupefaction and delight, I now shall propose a >> tentative list of the top 40 artists which I used to enjoy and do not >> any longer. > > Say what? No Sc*tt M*ller-led acts listed? ;-) I still have my Sc*tt M*ller-related albums. I don't like them any less than I ever did -- I just never liked them too much, to begin with. In all of those 40 cases, I used to have album(s) by those acts in my permanent collection. And don't any longer. > (And no Rex Broome either.) I don't recall ever enjoying his act. Eb PS Oh, jeez...I REALLY should have thought of the Arcade Fire. That MUST have outsold NMH, since I believe it's the first Merge release to actually get on commercial radio. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:38:58 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH > As a bonus, for your stupefaction and delight, I now shall propose a > tentative list of the top 40 artists which I used to enjoy and do not > any longer. Hmmmm.... Styx would top my list, but that can be pretty easily filed in the "Because I Was Young" department.... Styx The Moody Blues* Kansas Peter Paul and Mary Planet P Project Synergy Vangelis** Indigo Girls Live Spin Doctors Ani DiFranco Dream Theater Blues Traveler Jefferson Starship - --Quail * I still dig a few of their albums, but only once every few years or so.... ** Except "Soil Festivities" That's still a winner. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:52:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH The Great Quail wrote: > Styx > The Moody Blues* > Kansas > Peter Paul and Mary > Planet P Project > Synergy > Vangelis** > Indigo Girls > Live > Spin Doctors > Ani DiFranco > Dream Theater > Blues Traveler > Jefferson Starship A poignant document of what loco-weed can do to a brain. But we pulled him through it, didn't we? Eb PS The Moody Blues don't count. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 18:11:30 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: review of swap mix Before I get to the review, a few words. Yes, the CD swap is still going on (bimonthly: you figure out which def. I mean...), and yes if you're interested in participating, you should let me know. The only requirement is that you actually produce a swap for someone - although it's always nice to post a review, or at least a track list, so's we can discuss music around here. Anyway: Steve Holtebeck sent me fine mix with amusing, advertising-derived cover art, titled _The Pop Shoppe_. From this title, and if you know Steve, you can guess the primary musical genre featured here. Here's the tracks: *Fountains of Wayne "Maureen" The Greg Kihn Band "The Breakup Song (They Don't Write 'Em)" *Petra Haden "Relax" The Tweeds "I Need That Record" The Pillcrushers "All of the Time" *The Orange Peels "Circling the Sun" Nikki & the Corvettes "Summertime Fun" *Marshall Crenshaw "Take Me With U" *Bill Lloyd "Dial Nine" Luxury "One in a Million" Joanie Summers "Come Alive" (vintage Pepsi ad - mid-sixties?) *Paul Kelly "Roll On Summer" *Josh Rouse "Winter in the Hamptons" Chris Richards "She Belongs to Me" (not the Dylan song) *The Flamin' Groovies "Move It" Flying Color "I'm Your Shadow" *Brendan Benson "Spit it Out" Stories "Love Is in Motion" Plain White T's "All That We Needed" *Velvet Crush "Remember the Lightning" *The Raspberries "Play On" Sniff 'n the Tears "Driver's Seat" David Naughton "I'm a Pepper" (ad) Wammo "Lowriders on the Storm" Autoliner "Happy Summer Uber Alles" The Speedies "You Need Pop" - - uncredited "things go better with Coke" ad - late '50s/early '60s? kinda "Folksmen"-ish * bands I have in my collection - Some comments: I was pleased to see the Greg Kihn and Sniff 'n the Tears tracks - songs I'd nearly forgotten from their appearances in early '80s hit parades. And I'm glad to hear more of that Petra Haden thing - I'll have to pick that up, once I have any money to spend on music again. As I said above, it's impressive that even though I have tracks *by* many of these artists, there's not a single track on this album that's in my collection. This is even more surprising when a couple tracks (and not only the ones that got airplay) sound familiar...such as the Luxury track "One in a Million" and, most particularly, "Love Is in Motion" by Stories. That one's really buggin' me - I thought at first it might be on a comp. I haven't archived yet (the song's not in my database), but no... Then I looked it up at AMG - it's a Michael Brown tune (Left Banke, etc.), which sort of explains why, melodically and harmonically, it sounds kinda familiar. But that opening sequence, with the lyrics "Some day, maybe you'll understand my song" sounds just *incredibly* familiar. Is this a remake of a track I'm spacing out on, like on the Left Banke compilation? Anyway: a fine song. "Lowriders on the Storm" is, of course, a quasi-mashup (rerecorded, not sampled) of the two songs referenced in its title - but then it goes on to incorporate a whole bunch of other tracks, including "Day Tripper," "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," "Smells Like Teen Spirit," "Godzilla," "Baba O'Riley," "Sweet Jane," "La Bamba," "Stand," "Louie Louie," and a few others that sounded familiar but I couldn't put my finger on it (no, not that song). Anyway, thanks to Steve for an enjoyable mix - and I'm pretty sure this is the first mix in like three years with *no* tracks I already owned. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 16:19:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: review of swap mix > *The Raspberries "Play On" Maybe this is coincidental (or maybe it isn't), but I always thought this song was the most grievous omission from the otherwise-stuffed Raspberries "Collectors Series" CD released in 1991. (The other big missing song was "I Can Remember," but that one is such a strange, modular beast that I can easily see why it might be left off an anthology.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 16:34:29 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: Hmn...nmH The Great Quail wrote: > > As a bonus, for your stupefaction and delight, I now shall propose a > > tentative list of the top 40 artists which I used to enjoy and do not > > any longer. > > Hmmmm.... Hmmmm... indeed. I'm not sure if this is "stuff that you liked but now don't like anymore," or "artists who you liked and still like for their early albums but can't stand their newer stuff." Maybe both? > > Styx would top my list, but that can be pretty easily filed in the > "Because > I Was Young" department.... Back when I was 15, "Mr. Roboto" was killer! :D Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:16:44 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH On Aug 5, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Eb wrote: > 21. Mercury Rev Damn, I just picked up The Secret Migration last month and I've been playing it pretty much non-stop. It was preceded by the latest Porcupine Tree and Of Montreal albums, so there you go. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 18:55:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hmn...nmH Marc "Voice of the Nets" Alberts wrote: > Hmmmm... indeed. I'm not sure if this is "stuff that you liked but > now > don't like anymore," or "artists who you liked and still like for > their > early albums but can't stand their newer stuff." Maybe both? You can't like any of their stuff anymore -- or at least, not enough to wanna own it. Them's the rules. I'm off to run for an hour shortly, so Quail will have to keep an eye on things while I'm gone. Please don't smear any poop on the walls. (This means YOU, Eddie.) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #188 ********************************